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Amberon11:
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men , the Man Christ Jesus ,

I won't even go back and forth, that verse is clear enough.

That verse said MEDIATOR NOT INTERCESSOR.. CONTEXT IS KEY...IT MEANS JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY MEDIATOR OF THE NEW COVENANT BECAUSE HE ALONE DIED FOR US AND IS BOTH MAN AND GOD... THE NEXT VERSE CLARIFIES THIS

1 tim 2:6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time.

So because only Jesus gave himself up for us... he is the ONE MEDIATOR...
.1 john 2: 2 says something similar "and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."

We know we have many intercessors... intercessors are people who pray for us or offer prayers on our behalf...

We can pray for one another (1 tim 2:1-4),

the holy spirit helps us to pray (romans 8:26-27)

the Elders offer our prayers to God (rev 5:8 )

the Angels offer our prayers to God (rev 8:3)

onyenze123:
“The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend a personal God and avoid dogmas and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual,it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity.”

Who did you copy this from??

Why id it important?

why should i agree with it??

with what authority was it written??

easymancfc:
Who did you copy this from??

Why id it important?

why should i agree with it??

with what authority was it written??

1. A quote from Einstein.

2. It is important for the world to have one religion. The more united the human race are, the more we progress.

3. I don't need you to agree with me. let me ask you a question: Does God interfere in the affairs of men?

4. Authority? It was written under the authority of truth. You will understand better when you answer the above question

onyenze123:
1. A quote from Einstein.

2. It is important for the world to have one religion. The more united the human race are, the more we progress.

3. I don't need you to agree with me. let me ask you a question: Does God interfere in the affairs of men?

4. Authority? It was written under the authority of truth. You will understand better when you answer the above question

1. Einstein is a smart man but smartness or been intellectual doesn't translate to being inspired by God or being spiritual

2. this i actually agree with... unity is one of the signs of Jesus prayed for Christians to convert the world (john 17:21).. and the thousands of denominations spreading different teachings is not helping that...

3. You're damn right i don't...
The Bible as a whole talks about God interfering in the affairs of Men from Adam to Abraham to David to Us

4. How do i know it was written under the authority of truth?? is it because Einstein wrote it which i have to confirm myself?? Einstein is not a theologian, neither is he a Bishop... And Einstein is definitely not infallible so why do i have to believe his "truth"..

P.s Whats the point of the write up in the first place and why is it relevant here??

secondly can you provide proof that Einstein actually wrote this... i need a citation please..
thanks

She is the only one that knows the whole truth

The disciples only met Jesus when he was already Jesus
She knew him when he was yeshua and she brought him up in the way that he should go.

You still havent ptovidrd the verse where God asked you to oray through Mary. Do you understand the verse that says Jesus Christ is the "only" mediator between God and man?

onyenze123:
"Luke 1:35- And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.''


You go through Christ and you can pray to Mary to intercede for you

Amberon11:
You still havent ptovidrd the verse where God asked you to oray through Mary. Do you understand the verse that says Jesus Christ is the "only" mediator between God and man?

Bible is a collection of manuscripts written by different authors at different time in history. It has been modified and subjected to various change as it passed down from one generation to another

So must it be in the bible before you agree?

Amberon11:
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men , the Man Christ Jesus ,

I won't even go back and forth, that verse is clear enough.

You claimed there is only one intercessor, that verse is talking about Mediator, so you see you are wrong, you should have pasted the context.




1 Timothy 2

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1 Timothy 2 King James Version (KJV)


I exhort therefore, that, first of all,
supplications, prayers, intercessions, and
giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority;
that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life
in all godliness and honesty.
For this is good and acceptable in the
sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to
come unto the knowledge of the truth.




That is the context of the passage and it clear say all christian should offer intercession for it is acceptable and pleasing to God. That means every christian is a intercessor.


Next time please read the bible in context.

onyenze123:
Answer this question sincerely:
Does God interfere in the affairs of men?

yes

Ubenedictus:
yes

Then why do we have poverty, diseases, wars, crimes...?

onyenze123:
Then why do we have poverty, diseases, wars, crimes...?

I form the light and create darkness, I bring
prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD,
do all these things



Isaiah 45:7

Ubenedictus:
I form the light and create darkness, I bring
prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD,
do all these things



Isaiah 45:7

Why would a loving God create disasters for his creatures?

onyenze123:
Why would a loving God create disasters for his creatures?

God didnt create disasters for his creatures.. man chose to sin because of freewill and sin brought disasters and that loving father has sent his son to be the way he reconciles the world to himself... God allows evil to happen so that he can bring a greater good out of it...

onyenze123:
Why would a loving God create disasters for his creatures?

The same reason my dad had a cane when we were growing up.

easymancfc:
God didnt create disasters for his creatures.. man chose to sin because of freewill and sin brought disasters and that loving father has sent his son to be the way he reconciles the world to himself... God allows evil to happen so that he can bring a greater good out of it...

God didnt create disasters for his creatures

I form the light and create darkness, I bring
prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD,
do all these things
Isaiah 45:7

man chose to sin because of freewill and sin brought disasters and that loving father has sent his son to be the way he reconciles the world to himself

After sending his only begotten son to die on the cross (blood sacrifice) for the sins of the world, why do we still have disasters as a result of our original sins?( according to you)

God being all knowing and knowing fully well that man (Adam) would eat the forbidden fruit that will cause disasters allowed it to happen, why?

God allows evil to happen so that he can bring a greater good out of it

If that is the case, then he is not a loving God.

Ubenedictus:
The same reason my dad had a cane when we were growing up.

So are we still growing up?

onyenze123:
I form the light and create darkness, I bring
prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD,
do all these things
Isaiah 45:7



After sending his only begotten son to die on the cross (blood sacrifice) for the sins of the world, why do we still have disasters as a result of our original sins?( according to you)

God being all knowing and knowing fully well that man (Adam) would eat the forbidden fruit that will cause disasters allowed it to happen, why?



If that is the case, then he is not a loving God.

1. When God was creating the earth.. He did not create disaster as part of his original design in the 6 days of creation... and the bible in genesis 1and 2 records that God said that all he had created was GOOD... DISASTER IS NOT A GOOD... DISASTER IS A CONSEQUENCE OF SIN BUT A CREATION ANYWAY... Disaster is indeed a creation of God.. but not a direct creation... it is a consequence of sin... but a creation non the less... so it doesn't contradict that passage...

2. Because the plan of salvation has not been accomplished yet... that will happen at the close of the age... and secondly... not every person chose to accept Christ's sacrifice... it is only when you accept Christ that it would apply to you... So since there are still people who refuse to accept Christ and his sacrifice and still choose to sin... the consequences will still be there until God comes to judge at the end of the age

3. free will... God gave them a chance to choose him... but they disobey... if he didn't give them that right to choose then we would all be robots because all we can do is what God wants us to do...

GOD GAVE US FREE WILL SO THAT WE CAN FREELY CHOOSE HIM OUT OF LOVE... ITS NOT LOVE IF YOU DONT HAVE A CHOICE.. AND OUR CHOICE HAD ITS CONSEQUENCE

onyenze123:
So are we still growing up?

yes

I love all the points you guys have dropped... Thanks