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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by iluvpomo(m): 10:49pm On Aug 08, 2017
monerozi5590:



Decade!... Atletico Madrid won the league in 2014.

Please don't say what you don't know.
Don't you know how to read? I said in the last 11 years Barca/RM have won it 10 times. Why do you think there is a difference of 1??
Guess who will win La Liga this coming season ??
100% it will be either Barca or RM .... want to bet??

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by jaksmillioniar: 10:53pm On Aug 08, 2017
makydebbie:
Please, what for?
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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 10:56pm On Aug 08, 2017
Princefrankie1:


Lol. I always hear Epl fans say this (@bolded) and I just smile. Alright, Let me correct that impression tonight.

Since the inception of the Epl in 1992, 49 different teams have competed, only 6 teams have won the trophy.

Man United has totally dominated with 13Epl titles.

Chelsea have 5

Arsenal 3

Manchester City 2

Leicester 1

Blackburn 1.


For Laliga, since 1992 till date; 5 teams have won.

Barcelona and Real Madrid have dominated.

Barcelona have 12 Laliga titles

Real Madrid 8

ATM 2

Valencia 2

Deportivo Lacoruna 1


So bro, where is the so called COMPETITION and ANYBODY CAN WIN THE LEAGUE slogan? Shun and shove the impression that everybody and anybody can win the Epl, because it's a blatant lie. Stats don't lie.

Peruse on the aforementioned statistics, and next time before you argue, check your statistics. Don't just talk or type relying on hearsay.

And as for the popular saying that it's just Real Madrid and Barcelona, check head to head statistics. It's not even close. Teams like Atletico Bilbao, Atletico Madrid, Sevilla, have proven too good for the so called big teams in Epl each time they met in European compititions. Ask Chelsea, Manutd or Liverpool.

In the last 19 European ties between English and Spanish clubs, it's 17-2 to Spain on head to head.

Since 2000, Spanish clubs have won 26 European trophies, English clubs have won 7.

La Liga has the better teams, the better players and the better football. Every football statistic, proves one thing: Laliga dominance.

The Premier League has more flawed teams, leading to football that is arguably more pulsating, and more money, leading to it becoming a monument to excess and greed.

It's probably a better business but not a better football league. Not even close.

Epl teams have been struggling to match the laliga in terms of quality of players, that's why over the years, they have spent ridiculously over £1.5million pounds in player signings. And still counting..... Yet they are still millions of miles behind.

So my fellow football lover, I want to understand your definition of 'BETTER & COMPETITIVE'. If it means inferior in virtually every way then, yes, the Premier League is better and more competitive. Otherwise you'd have to go with Laliga.

Gracias!
the dominance of spanish clubs over english clubs rests with arsenal and man city and maybe united, but as for chelsea and liverpool ur statistics maybe wrong, talking about league quality even the president of la liga at d beginning of last season is that they want to be like EPL in terms of quality, find out. Talking about dominance in europe that of laliga started in d 2000's so if they were not dominating since d inception of UCL, then someday d dominance will cease to exist, so don't use european success to glorify la liga its in no way near the EPL.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Adiwana: 10:59pm On Aug 08, 2017
iluvpomo:

Oh goodness gracious .... I stopped reading your thesis when I saw you going back that far in time.
The last decade has seen Real & Barca take over La Liga. That is why in the last 11 years these two teams have won the league 10 times. There's a reason why the EPL is the number one followed the league in the world despite not having the best teams in the world ..... BALANCE! It's the reason why they have the highest TV ratings. When Atletico Madrid won the league in 2014 they made less TV money from La Liga than the EPL team that got relegated (Cardiff city) grin

What do you mean by balance?Playing average football.Over spending on avg. players.Lack of consistency?.etc This is exactly the difference between la liga and Epl and it has heavily reflected on the international scene.Spurs is a power house in English football but couldnt make it out group stage in champions league?When chelsea(Champions league winner) met athletico(Europa league winner),they were beaten 4-1 in super cup.But tonight,we know what happened.I could go on and on but what am trying to say is when it comes to quality of football,la liga has it and the stats are there to see

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Chubhie: 11:01pm On Aug 08, 2017
CaptPlanet:



I think utd missed Bailly's presence. Herrera is one hell of a midfielder, I think he needs to play more with Matic. Problem now is Pogba. He had little influence in the game with all that protection.

Bro, if Mata had that sort of licence to roam free, he'll create more chances and perform way better than him but its unfortunate that Mou prefers Mata as a winger, rarely uses him and Pogba is worth £90m.
If Matic and Herrera protection can't guarantee pogba the freedom to influence games, I trust Jose to sit his ass on the bench on sunday and play Mata.

Credit must be given to Madrid for out-playing United first half although Jose read the game properly and balanced things out with rashford and fellaini.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 11:07pm On Aug 08, 2017
iluvpomo:

Oh goodness gracious .... I stopped reading your thesis when I saw you going back that far in time.
The last decade has seen Real & Barca take over La Liga. That is why in the last 11 years these two teams have won the league 10 times. There's a reason why the EPL is the number one followed the league in the world despite not having the best teams in the world ..... BALANCE! It's the reason why they have the highest TV ratings. When Atletico Madrid won the league in 2014 they made less TV money from La Liga than the EPL team that got relegated (Cardiff city) grin
I know La Liga has adopted a fairer sharing of TV revenue sharing but till that manifests in more competitive games between top/bottom teams it remains to be seen.

Very good. I like people who argue with statistical consultations. Now I understand your point of argument is BALANCE OF TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE. I will treat that right away.

Let's refer to our beloved statistics once again. Lol

Last season, Chelsea strolled past virtually all Epl teams. Winning 30 Epl matches.
Where is the BALANCE my brother?

The almighty Real Madrid, the best team in the world, the slayer of English teams, in the unbalanced laliga, won 29. 1 fewer than Chelsea. Can Chelsea stand Real Madrid in any competitive game?

I thought maybe Real Madrid should have won every other team in Laliga. Since there is no BALANCE and no Competition.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by kombats: 11:08pm On Aug 08, 2017
iluvpomo:

Don't you know how to read? I said in the last 11 years Barca/RM have won it 10 times. Why do you think there is a difference of 1??
Guess who will win La Liga this coming season ??
100% it will be either Barca or RM .... want to bet??

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
In the last decade i can only remember 4 teams winning the premier league.
Man u
Chelsea
man city
Leicester city

la liga last decade
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Athletico Madrid

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by iluvpomo(m): 11:11pm On Aug 08, 2017
Adiwana:


What do you mean by balance?Playing average football.Over spending on avg. players.Lack of consistency?.etc This is exactly the difference between la liga and Epl and it has heavily reflected on the international scene.Spurs is a power house in English football but couldnt make it out group stage in champions league?When chelsea(Champions league winner) met athletico(Europa league winner),they were beaten 4-1 in super cup.But tonight,we know what happened.I could go on and on but what am trying to say is when it comes to quality of football,la liga has it and the stats are there to see
If La Liga is such high quality why does their TV ratings lag behind EPL? I agree La Liga has the best teams in the world but the rest cannot compete with RM/Barca and so it has become boring!
In the Champions League round of 16 this year, Leicester City, who finished 12th in the EPL beat Sevilla who were 4th in La Liga, so that pretty much rubbishes your other arguments.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by CaptPlanet(m): 11:12pm On Aug 08, 2017
Chubhie:

If Matic and Herrera protection can't guarantee pogba the freedom to influence games, I trust Jose to sit his ass on the bench on sunday and play Mata.

Credit must be given to Madrid for out-playing United first half although Jose read the game properly and balanced things out with rashford and fellaini.


Jose is a good tactician no doubt. And credit to Madrid, they played a good game.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by iluvpomo(m): 11:15pm On Aug 08, 2017
kombats:


Please correct me if I'm wrong.
In the last decade i can only remember 4 teams winning the premier league.
Man u
Chelsea
man city
Leicester city

la liga last decade
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Athletico Madrid
Atletico only won it once, the rest were by RM/Barca.
You can never have a situation like Leicester winning La Liga because RM/Barca are too strong- thanks for making my point for me.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:16pm On Aug 08, 2017
Adiwana:


What do you mean by balance?Playing average football.Over spending on avg. players.Lack of consistency?.etc This is exactly the difference between la liga and Epl and it has heavily reflected on the international scene.Spurs is a power house in English football but couldnt make it out group stage in champions league?When chelsea(Champions league winner) met athletico(Europa league winner),they were beaten 4-1 in super cup.But tonight,we know what happened.I could go on and on but what am trying to say is when it comes to quality of football,la liga has it and the stats are there to see
a quality that does not extend a maximum of two to three teams is team quality not league quality, in la liga u see a team drubbed 7:0 even 10:1 is that wat u call league quality? Whereas wen the other teams are playing, the scoreline is close, la liga may enjoy success in europe and la liga may have the highest UCL its mainly due to real madrid and that owes to their pedigree of rushing and trying to harness all the best quality in futbol but that is changing now. Atletico beat chelsea 4:1 its true but u also 4got chelsea beat barca 4:2, does dat reduce the standard of barca? Neither did that reduce chelsea

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by kombats: 11:16pm On Aug 08, 2017
iluvpomo:

If La Liga is such high quality why does their TV ratings lag behind EPL? I agree La Liga has the best teams in the world but the rest cannot compete with RM/Barca and so it has become boring!
In the Champions League round of 16 this year, Leicester City, who finished 12th in the EPL beat Sevilla who were 4th in La Liga, so that pretty much rubbishes your other arguments.
And last season Leicester city were the premier league defending champion.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by kombats: 11:21pm On Aug 08, 2017
Maiconyoung:
a quality that does not extend a maximum of two to three teams is team quality not league quality, in la liga u see a team drubbed 7:0 even 10:1 is that wat u call league quality? Whereas wen the other teams are playing, the scoreline is close, la liga may enjoy success in europe and la liga may have the highest UCL its mainly due to real madrid and that owes to their pedigree of rushing and trying to harness all the best quality in futbol but that is changing now. Atletico beat chelsea 4:1 its true but u also 4got chelsea beat barca 4:2, does dat reduce the standard of barca? Neither did that reduce chelsea


You also forgot to say champions league is not a league to for Madrid and Barcelona thrashing their opponents.
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 11:22pm On Aug 08, 2017
kombats:


Please correct me if I'm wrong.
In the last decade i can only remember 4 teams winning the premier league.
Man u
Chelsea
man city
Leicester city

la liga last decade
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Athletico Madrid

Lol. Don't mind all these Epl apologists my brother. The problem is they don't check stats. Smh

When you hear them say words like: In Epl anybody can win the league, you will think that literally, every Epl team has won the Epl title. Lol. Most times they just say those things out of excitement and sheer ignorance of facts.

But it's been Man United all the way. The dominance was broken by Manchester City and Chelsea recently because of their Arab and Russian investors respectively.

I usually don't have the time to argue with most of them. But on few occasions I try to correct them and free them from their ignorance.

But you can't blame them, Nigeria is an English speaking country. So Nigerians are bound to have that affinity with the Epl. It's natural. It is the league they grew up to love. So they will always love it more than any other league.

I don't have a problem with that. My problem is: They should always say things they know off and dwell on FACTS not hearsay.

Sometimes I try to understand them, because our people say that "To a man, his mother is always a better cook than another woman."

But that shouldn't make them make falsified and unfounded statements about the Epl being BETTER than LaLiga.

That is utter balderdash!

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Hyfer(m): 11:23pm On Aug 08, 2017
All this people saying la liga has better teams than epl its just because of ronaldo in madrid and messi in barca when they retire there will be nothing left in that league..

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:28pm On Aug 08, 2017
Princefrankie1:


Very good. I like people who argue with statistical consultations. Now I understand your point of argument is BALANCE OF TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE. I will treat that right away.

Let's refer to our beloved statistics once again. Lol

Last season, Chelsea strolled past virtually all Epl teams. Winning 30 Epl matches.
Where is the BALANCE my brother?

The almighty Real Madrid, the best team in the world, the slayer of English teams, in the unbalanced laliga, won 29. 1 fewer than Chelsea. Can Chelsea stand Real Madrid in any competitive game?

I thought maybe Real Madrid should have won every other team in Laliga. Since there is no BALANCE and no Competition.



chelsea standing real madrid is not an issue to be decided on paper, its an issue that needs to be practical since chelsea defeated. Madrid in their only competitive meeting, moreover if english clubs were a workover 4 madrid, that has not shown in recent years since winning an english team 4 madrid is just a 1 goal difference, for the league, chelsea never strolled past everybody last season, the margin between d top 4 was even, but in la liga aside barca, d margin btw 2nd 3rd place was vast.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by meforyou1(m): 11:28pm On Aug 08, 2017
Maiconyoung:
the dominance of spanish clubs over english clubs rests with arsenal and man city and maybe united, but as for chelsea and liverpool ur statistics maybe wrong, talking about league quality even the president of la liga at d beginning of last season is that they want to be like EPL in terms of quality, find out. Talking about dominance in europe that of laliga started in d 2000's so if they were not dominating since d inception of UCL, then someday d dominance will cease to exist, so don't use european success to glorify la liga its in no way near the EPL.
chelsea is an average team. No where near arsenal. Say what you know. Don't want to start recounting before u call it history. Last 2 games head to head. FA Cup and FA Community Shield, Arsenal trashed you and shut you up

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by kombats: 11:31pm On Aug 08, 2017
Hyfer:
All this people saying la liga has better teams than epl its just because of ronaldo in madrid and messi in barca when they retire there will be nothing left in that league..
In the last decade name any premier league team that has a star studded squad like real Madrid.?
if Ronaldo and Messi retires, other stars will either​ rise or come to la liga.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:32pm On Aug 08, 2017
[quote author=kombats post=59286619]


You also forgot to say champions league is not a league to for Madrid and Barcelona thrashing their opponents.[/quote ] didn't really get that, would appreciate if u rephrase
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:32pm On Aug 08, 2017
[quote author=kombats post=59286619]


You also forgot to say champions league is not a league to for Madrid and Barcelona thrashing their opponents.[/quote ] didn't really get that, would appreciate if u rephrase.
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Samunique(m): 11:35pm On Aug 08, 2017
iamharkinwaley:
With United performance tonight, it is no doubt that England is on a long thing.

We're gonna crush dem come this season.

And my thanks to Chelsea FC

Matic has being good

Tonight.
You have the cross bar to thank otherwise the score line would have been embarrassing !!!

So don't tell me Man u were outstanding, after all they lost the match, don't know what u are celebrating here !!!
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by kombats: 11:37pm On Aug 08, 2017
you said in la liga you will always see a high goal margin when BARCELONA or Real Madrid play, that is that one a league. so i pointed out thesame high margin when they also play in the UCL.
[quote author=Maiconyoung post=59286853][/quote]
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:37pm On Aug 08, 2017
meforyou1:
chelsea is an average team. No where near arsenal. Say what you know. Don't want to start recounting before u call it history. Last 2 games head to head. FA Cup and FA Community Shield, Arsenal trashed you and shut you up
hahahahaha... Don't make me laff, why not say last 5 or10 matches? An average team doing wat ur big team could not and have trophies ur proposed "big team" don't have is embarrassing

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:39pm On Aug 08, 2017
kombats:
you said in la liga you will always see a high goal margin when BARCELONA or Real Madrid play, that is that one a league. so i pointed out thesame high margin when they also play in the UCL.
how many english teams have madrid and barca beaten with such a high margin?
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by labzzy: 11:42pm On Aug 08, 2017
no b this same lukaku loss penalty against Bayern for super cup? man utd, una never see anything
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by menace1: 11:44pm On Aug 08, 2017
even Chelsea fans that there team can't stop an arsenal without ozil nd Sanchez wan troll nd arsenal dat was raped 5-1 by bayern hahhaha
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Hyfer(m): 11:46pm On Aug 08, 2017
kombats:

In the last decade name any premier league team that has a star studded squad like real Madrid.?
if Ronaldo and Messi retires, other stars will either​ rise or come to la liga.
Man utd of 2007/2008
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by kombats: 11:47pm On Aug 08, 2017
Maiconyoung:
how many english teams have madrid and barca beaten with such a high margin?
i am not talking about them beating premier league with high margins but doing it in la liga nd also​ in the Ucl.
Arsenal were thrashed 10 - 2 aggregate by bayern.(not la liga).
psg wass also thrashed 6-1 by Barcelona

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:47pm On Aug 08, 2017
Using the UCL to glorify la liga is a clear sign that laliga don't have a stand on its own, those of u making this argument, out of 38 laliga matches, outside the el classico, u don't deliberately watch up to 5 matches except u meet it accidentally, if the league was so gud as u guys said why create time to watch getafe vs atletico madrid? But u guys watch EPL week in, week out, laliga as a league can't be compared with the EPL.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by daniel100bc(m): 11:49pm On Aug 08, 2017
Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:51pm On Aug 08, 2017
kombats:

i am not talking about them beating premier league with high margins but doing it in la liga nd also​ in the Ucl.
Arsenal were thrashed 10 - 2 aggregate by bayern.(not la liga).
psg wass also thrashed 6-1 by Barcelona
bringing bayern into the picture is uncalled for, and we know PSG was not thrashed, they were cheated. Moreover we are talking about EPL and laliga not d oda league u brought here, so give example of english team thrashed with such a margin by laliga team.

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Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Nobody: 11:54pm On Aug 08, 2017
menace1:
even Chelsea fans that there team can't stop an arsenal without ozil nd Sanchez wan troll nd arsenal dat was raped 5-1 by bayern hahhaha
d sweetest part is that the chelsea squad was not complete, even the ozil and sanchez played against chelsea in nothing less than 6 matches and won just 2.

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