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Pierocash:
End time church.This is a satanic church

if them collect tithe una go complain, if them say them no want una poor dirty money, una go still complain. peasants cant be pleased. that is why rich politicians use u peasants for blood money

Give, it shall be given unto you. These are just universal laws no matter who you are, once you help others, you receive it.... Just like the Lord commanded go and fill the earth, so irrespective of who you are, what religion you do, you get pregnant.. If you are convinced in your heart to give tithes, go on, if you are not, don't give.. No matter which side you are one, you will always find Scriptural verses to back up your points. As for me giving is not a thing of force, it is from the heart, if I am moved to give I give but if not, I don't

liab:
Source: http://leadership.ng/2017/08/06/inside-abuja-church-tithe-offering-outlawed/

They are VERY CORRECT on the tithe and offering matter! Tithe was old testament idea for the support of the Levites in charge of the temple and worship.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that any Christian in the new testament paid tithe. No apostle ever promoted it. The offering in the NT was in response to the need of believers not a ROUTINE practice.

Are they Satanic? Leave God to decide that.

paschu:
Abraham's payment of tithe was recorded once in the entire old testament. This implies that he paid his tithe voluntarily and by God's leading - just like when he sacrificed Isaac. It was not compulsory. Tithe did not become compulsory until the conquest of Canaan and the formal institutionalization of the Levitical Order and Aaronic Priesthood.

This Levitical Order coupled with the Aaronic Priesthood, was put aside by the death and resurrection of Christ. So there is no more need for daily burnt offerings and animal sacrifices. No more need for the PROFESSIONAL priesthood. This is actually why Paul said that he would rather die working with his hands than depend solely on the Church for survival.

Thus I found it curious when you claimed that Tithe is meant for the Church. Can you please prove that assertion scripturally without going out of context?

Please note that I am not in anyway asking anyone to stop paying tithe. But please take this from me, and write it down somewhere. What the Pastor in the OP is doing is the future of the church. That is the ONLY WAY the Church can survive the coming global Anti-Christ movement and large scale uprising against ALL FORMS OF ORGANIZED RELIGION.

The KIND OF PRACTICAL SACRIFICIAL LOVE which this Pastor is proclaiming now is the Church's LONE ticket to survival in the coming years. And you can take that to the Bank.

One more thing: The Pastor made a profound statement when he said that he cannot teach people that they have to bring money to church BEFORE God can bless them.

Friend that's the root of the matter. The idea that you have to STRUGGLE to EARN God's blessings for yourself is the biggest favor the Church is doing the anti-Christ spirit. As times goes on, Science and humanistic advancement in knowledge will make most of these things easily accessible to ALL with little or zero efforts. This commonalization of the so called blessings will make the current teachings of the Organized Church lose its present appeal. In fact this is already happening. And this is what the anti-Christ will capitalize on. The only counter we have is the message of PRACTICAL LOVE (which the OP is proclaiming) and making sure that the Church people start using their minds and embracing real education.

Again, the only thing that will prevent the rich, weak or poor church members from embracing the lure of anti-Christ is a timely eradication of the spirit of Selfishness (which is the root of greed and every other evil) and prompt enthronement of the CULTURE OF PRACTICAL LOVE - just as the first disciples did. This is why Jesus said that the only way the world would know that He is with us is when we love each other the way he had loved us and died for us while we were still sinners.

The Church of the end time will congregate in tiny circles of influences at homes, work/market places and in the streets. It's not going to be at the cathedrals and huge auditoriums as usual.

Professional priesthood is already loosing credibility, soon it will lose influence.

Wow. No truth has ever been spoken

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

Shut ur hell hole for asserting a conclusion u know nothing about. Who told u non tithers can not be blessed. Are u God? Are u even blessed? Do u even have money? Smh

Kondomatic:
Show me where people paid tithe in the new testament please

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A hotly debated topic. With lots of emotion running high. Let us apply logic to this issue self. Does god come down to take our Tithe or what? Is your Tithe a bribe to God to bless you. That is you are expecting something in return. You are bribing him to look towards your direction. For those saying we should not question pastor, I see a zombie. But this church is unique. My father told me there is no free lunch. Sooner or later they would need money

ORDER!!!!!

MrRhymes101:
Cost of running the church nko? Maybe it's just a charity organization.

Meanwhile when laws set up to manage profit organisations are applied to church, you shout "church is a charity organization"

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

Hope you know you can give your tithes directly to the poor without giving a pastor except if you feel the pastor is also poor.

Pierocash:
One JW spotted. Evn in the days of christ ppl pay tithe.Any church misleading u to go contrary to the bible is satanic

i'm certain you simply scanned through the article instead of understanding it verbatin. The pastor never said his members shouldn't pay tithes or offerings but rather, help the needy around first. It is total hypocrisy if your neighbour is in dire poverty and you, fully knowing this give a thousand naira as an offering.

For me tithing is beyond Christianity. Because Christianity started after the death of Jesus Christ. Meanwhile, Christ in Matthew 5:17-20, said He didn't come to abolish the law. In Luke18:12 (Matthew 23:23) made reference to payment of tithes. In Hebrew 7:1-28, we also have a clear understanding about tithing. So I think tithing is an injunction from God which must be practiced.

Pierocash:
Bro stop been misled by the devil,Bishop Oyedepo himself pays tithe ,paying tithe in church is not same as paying to ur pastor.Men of God are custodians of God's treasures, what they do with it is no man's business.Are u the one that called them?They are answerable to no man but God so stop asking what they do with tithe, that is left for God to question them if they misuse or embezle them.As long as i agree there are business men on the alter who called themselves to that business of collecting peoples money in the name of tithe and offering, but that does not make u discredit the commandment of tithing.If u have not been tithing b4 now, i encourage u to locate a bible believing church and start paying ur tithe frm today and watch how God wil make u a living wonder

No one in Winners Chapel tithes and gives offerings like Bro Oyedepo,, he would always say before you critize me check my heart beat for God

All this na 'sha-lo'

I.G. - initial gra-gra


At the elapse of two years: ''God' will tell them to be collecting tithes and offering, that you can't run a ministry without money!'

Pierocash:
Luke 11:42 (New Living Translation), Mathew 23:23
Study the above scriptures from New Living Translation for better understanding.Any man telling u not to tithe is not wishing u well, that is the Devil at work trying to keep u perpetual
under demonic control.
Bro, u better advice yourself now and stop following satanic agents' destructive advice by making up ur mind today to start tithing consistently, and i promise u that 2 yrs frm now, u wil remember today and thank me for bringing the gospel of prosperity ur way,ur life wil be a wonder evn to ur own self

Oga, attaching your religious convictions to demonic threats is almost always a sign of muddied knowledge.
The scripture u quoted, was Jesus talking to his church or to the pharasees? Unless your saying the church of our Lord started existing b4 his death, burial n resurrection, then your point is dead on arrival. Show us from after the formation of the church please.




I do get it. When self righteousness takes hold, it just doesn't want any truth that seem "unfair", not requiring effort or duress. Be a giver led by the Spirit. In OT, God asked for a portion of your time (sabbath), your gifts (tithe n offerings), possession (1st child) but in NT, he wants all of you. So, you actually dont give your money cos its not yours. HE GIVES YOU.
SELAH

It is not by force to give to the Church. The Pastor did not put a gun to one's head just to give tithes and offerings. No one forces anyone to go to Church: it is your choice. If you want to give an offering and pay a tithe, sow a seed , give with joy, with love and with gratitude. If you do not feel like giving or you are pressure to pay tithe or offering, then my brothers and sisters please do not give. Remember God loves a cheerful giver.

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

Who told you if you don't pay tithe you will not be blessed?

positivelord:
Plz I want you to give me reference(s) from the new testament where Jesus or early disciples collected tithe...and plz dont border me with quote from Malachi, I beg of you...how can you tell me something as important as tithe is almost missing in the new testament.

Luke 11:42, mathew 23:23.
Pls study the above scriptures frm New Living Translation for better understanding.

How do u knw, did he tell u that? Besides, do u evn knw whr his loyalty lies?

jdtrends:
Oga, the richest man in Africa is not paying tithe yet God has continued to bless him or is his God more powerful than yours?

Pierocash:
Luke 11:42 (New Living Translation), Mathew 23:23
Study the above scriptures from New Living Translation for better understanding.Any man telling u not to tithe is not wishing u well, that is the Devil at work trying to keep u perpetual
under demonic control.
Bro, u better advice yourself now and stop following satanic agents' destructive advice by making up ur mind today to start tithing consistently, and i promise u that 2 yrs frm now, u wil remember today and thank me for bringing the gospel of prosperity ur way,ur life wil be a wonder evn to ur own self

Bros, I support tithing but the scripture you cited suggests that they left WEIGHTIER MATTERS like justice, Mercy, Love. They​ sacrificed these for tithing. Which was an aberation.

Moreso, scene there was still pointing at old testament. Remember, the death and Resurrection of Christ marked the beginning of the New testament.
I will suggest you show the doubter where tithing was mentioned after the resurrection of Christ

Statsocial:
Abraham tithed before the old testament

*Not all parts of the section Old testament represents the Old covenant of Moses.

I was blessed today by TD jakes message and that only happened because some christian somewhere choose to support his ministry with funds which in turn gave him d opportunity to minister to me here in Nigeria. Those Christians may not know me but I am blessed by their sacrifice.

And yet, scriptures used to collect tithes are quoted from the levitical pool.
TD Jakes has partners. He can go far n wide cos men support him. Tithe has nothing to do with it. Some times I wonder which "tither" sponsored paul or Christ

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

Then where will you place Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs and a host of many billionaires who don't even know God?

Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.[b]No non tither can be blessed.[/b]argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

Really
Pls i will like to knw the church that aliko dangote, femi otedola, evans and Ayodeji wizkid balogun pays their tithe too...
Likewise jayz, beyonce, c.ronaldo, Neymar
Pls... abi is d law of tithe only works for Nigerians and Africans?

The Lord should have mercy and teach us the right doctrine.

Pierocash:
Luke 11:42, mathew 23:23.
Pls study the above scriptures frm New Living Translation for better understanding.

Why insisting on NLT? Cos it promotes your thought ko. Others wont say what you want. See dodging.... "teacher teacher sir, please flog me but use that smaller cane."

Okay you say paying of tithe, when the tithe paid by the poor and the rich is being used built to a university which only the rich can afford.

sarrki:
We are in new testament

Old things have passed away

Old things have passed away but the same God yesterday, today and forever. If you believe old things have passed away, why still believe in Jesus that you're using His name to defraud people cos Jesus should also be Old by now.

OP give us the address......that is where i want to worship

oobinna:
Bros, I support tithing but the scripture you cited suggests that they left WEIGHTIER MATTERS like justice, Mercy, Love. They​ sacrificed these for tithing. Which was an aberation.

Moreso, scene there was still pointing at old testament. Remember, the death and Resurrection of Christ marked the beginning of the New testament.
I will suggest you show the doubter where tithing was mentioned after the resurrection of Christ

the fact that it wasnt mentioned after the death of christ does not abolish that commandment. Christ came to save man frm sin and satan,and to restore God's kingdom to man whiCh the devil took frm man.Jesus didnt come to preach prosperity bt to save man frm destruction, those are mandate handed over to the apostles which is the word of prosperity u see and hear today.
Christ came to restore love and mercy which they abandoned frm for tithing.If it has been abolished christ would have told them no stop paying tithe and focus on only mercy justice,and love,bt he said yes pay tithe bt dont neglect the others which is mercy,Justice, and love

Meritocracy:
Old things have passed away but the same God yesterday, today and forever. If you believe old things have passed away, why still believe in Jesus that you're using His name to defraud people cos Jesus should also be Old by now.

Mechonu

Seriously this is great..... Why the average Nigerian doesn't ask where the offering and tithe go to is beyond me..... The thing dey fly go heaven abi?