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Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by Maximus85(m): 4:37pm On Aug 09, 2017
absoluteSuccess:
You can spend your entire life searching and make it a career.,

Since this is the crust of your existence.

Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by antighaedem: 4:52pm On Aug 09, 2017
ONLY HIM CAN DO WHAT NO MAN CAN DO JEHOVAH...TO HIM ALONE BE ALL THE GLORY
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by Meetleader: 4:54pm On Aug 09, 2017
GOD is always a way maker and a policy breaker
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by Gerrard59(m):
AreaFada2:
If this is believed in 9ja in the 21st century, then all jobless youths should begin churches. Absolutely anything goes now.

My word! shocked shocked shocked
Richard Adeboye, son of Enoch Adeboye said a similar thing on a 'true life story' in a congregation this year. Nothing new.

Issue is: People believed. When I asked, where did the child stay to develop? I was chastised for questioning "What God can do?"

@Post, DNA test should be carried on the child and supposed parents to ascertain the veracity. While on that, the doctor who authorised the operation needs to be seen and asked pertinent questions.
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by absoluteSuccess: 5:11pm On Aug 09, 2017
[quote author=Maximus85 post=59308561][/quote]Where is your wisdom in this?
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by aaccountable1: 6:04pm On Aug 09, 2017
Gerrard59:
Richard Adeboye, son of Enoch Adeboye said a similar thing on a 'true life story' in a congregation this year. Nothing new.

Issue is: People believed. When I asked, where did the child stay to develop? I was chastised for questioning "What God can do".

@Post, DNA test should be carried on the child and supposed parents to ascertain the veracity. While on that, the doctor who authorised the operation needs to be seen and asked pertinent questions.
even if these are done and confirm the miracle, u will still find another argument. I have heard, seen , and experienced many miracles. my brother they are real.

Anyway, if you believed it, then it wouldn't qualify as a miracle. makes God even more awesome!
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by Jasperwhizz(m): 6:17pm On Aug 09, 2017
I believe in Most High GOD who wrought Miracles!
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by Actuarydeji(m): 8:25pm On Aug 09, 2017
Show me the womb and I will believe you. Yeyenatu set of people
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by pressplay411(m): 8:43pm On Aug 09, 2017
But wait oh. Una no dey fear God? Even Moses and Jesus no do this kind miracle nah.

If you want to insult a man's intelligence, use religion.
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by zoedew: 9:21pm On Aug 09, 2017
broseme:
As shared by Pearl Clement.....

'BIG BANG TESTIMONY

  With Pastor Dennis Ekere whose testimony was shared in 4 services in Winners Chapel Ikot Ebido Oku today.
His dear wife after a fibroid surgery developed complications which led to him signing that her Womb be removed as measures to saving her life. He signed and the womb was removed and was given to him in a Heinz salad cream bottle.

  However he held onto the word of God that."If a tree be cut off, it has hope for at the scent of water it shall grow again" also he declared that the God that did it for Pastor Bamgboye whose wife's 2 ovaries had been removed but still gave birth to 2 children would give him his baby.
Few months later a very confused doctor told him that at scanning his wife that they saw A WOMB THAT HAD GROWN IN THE FORMER SITE. However the size of the womb was very small.

  Men and Brethren, few months later, his dear wife took in, ie got pregnant and delivered a bouncing baby boy weighing 3.7kg last week Saturday.
Yesterday was the naming ceremony and may I add here that his dear wife only knew that yesterday that her womb had been cut off all this while. Asking why he refused to disclose to her or anyone, he said he didn't want her FAITH TO SHAKE.
With my spiritual eyes I just saw Ekere Dennis included in the hall of faith in Hebrews11.This God is too good ooo.help me sing ooo

Now tell me.
What can God not do?
What is too hard for God?
Who is like unto God'


Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/08/nigerian-pastor-wife-whose-womb-was.html?m=1
Hallelujah!
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by piagetskinner(m): 9:54pm On Aug 09, 2017
if this story is true... then God works in mysterious ways...and only a fool says in his heart there is no God
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by Okies27(m): 10:42pm On Aug 09, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
and what's exactly is the "proof" here if I may ask?
. Only a fool will see a true story with proof and still ask for the proof. You lots think you can say stupid things concerning Christianity but try it in the North with Moslems and you are a goner. If you don't believe in other people's belief, you keep shut n stay out of their way.
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by Yuji: 1:59am On Aug 10, 2017
Atheists have infiltrated the thread again as I knew they would do. Anyways olowogbogboro has done it again. grin cheesy
Abeg no atheist should quote me oh tongue
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by AreaFada2: 2:04am On Aug 10, 2017
Gerrard59:
Richard Adeboye, son of Enoch Adeboye said a similar thing on a 'true life story' in a congregation this year. Nothing new.

Issue is: People believed. When I asked, where did the child stay to develop? I was chastised for questioning "What God can do".

@Post, DNA test should be carried on the child and supposed parents to ascertain the veracity. While on that, the doctor who authorised the operation needs to be seen and asked pertinent questions.
Wow! If this is true that a large number of people believe it, then we are in real trouble. Big trouble. It means our education system has truly failed us. That we cannot espouse logic or critical thinking. In fact another form of mental slavery.

I was impressed last time when a serious christian friend admitted he had his twin using IVF. Very rare for religious people to admit such these days.

Sleeping & waking up daily is already a miracle. Being alive is a miracle. I wonder which other miracle people still want.
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by liberalchick(f): 2:08am On Aug 10, 2017
As a Christian, even though you believe in miracles and you believe that God can do the impossible, miracles do occur within reasonable believable event. E.g, will you believe a miracle where a man's head was cut off ( clean no nerves attached) and suddenly a new head grows back? If you understand what a uterus is, then there is NO way a uterus can grow back ( akin to a new head growing ). In fact it is so impossible that scientist have been trying to do a successful uterine transplant since the 18th century. It was only in 2011 a successful transplant was done. In 2014, the first live birth from a uterine transplant was achieved.

I have read/heard so many 'womb was removed but gave birth' testimonies and am amazed at how many people lap them up ( I believe Nigerians are smart ). Just like how you won't believe if someone told you they don't have a heart ( and the person is not a vampire) but he/she is standing before you and is breathing/pumping blood, then you would know the 'no womb' stories are bogus. A uterus is needed for an embryo to implant and then the placenta is formed where the baby gets nutrients from its mother. When implantation happens outside the uterus (ectopic preganancy) the mother can die, such baby is not viable. There is no other organ in the body that can support a living/GROWING embryo for NINE months.

Why are these testimonies common? 1. Embellished testimony: Probably, she was indeed diagnosed with infertility, where the doctor said she will not be able to give birth ( it happens a lot) no partial hysterectomy was done but to make the problem seem so insurmountable that only a great God can solve they added 'jara' after all only a pastor can qualify for such great miracle.
2. Cover up: surrogacy is still very much a stigma in our culture, so to prove she is woman enough to birth her own child and not use a 'rented' uterus ( even though there is nothing absolutely wrong with it) they concocted a cover story, a story so often told in 'testimonies'
3. Something more sinister, baby factories exist because there is a market for it.
4. Or worse a kidnapped baby.

I wish we had investigative journalism in this country, we benefited from one in the 90s, remember Abike Dabiri miracle baby story?
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by chiboy11(m): 2:48am On Aug 10, 2017
Nne its realy only a fool, a big capital fool ,only him can do what no man on earth can do
Nne5:
Hallelujah.

Only a fool says there's no God. kiss
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by donnie(m):
That's my God! The God of signs and wonders ...He never fails. The devil is a looser.

I saw a lady in Christ Embassy Port Harcourt several years ago who testified of how her fallopian tubes were removed, yet she gave birth.
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by cyborg123(m): 7:44am On Aug 10, 2017
Atheists, you guys are always logical except when it comes to religion. I think the logical thing to do when there's no sufficient evidence for something is to remain neutral. Remember Shrodinger's cat. Stop blaspheming God.
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by Diamond13(f): 11:48am On Aug 10, 2017
This is one of the cases that proves and attests the biblical passage in Luke 1:37 (For with God nothing shall be impossible).
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by blueAgent(m): 2:20pm On Aug 11, 2017
buygala:
New episode in the endless season films acted to keep the gullible as gullible as possible grin

Sometimes I wonder whether the propaganda in Nigerian churches isn't more than that of this APC administration sad

Smh
Atheist's Logic
Woman gave birth without Womb.response :it is impossible.

A Woman/Human was made by random wind and inanimate substances all by chance: possible

Tell me why Atheism is not insanity.
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by aaccountable1: 3:39pm On Aug 11, 2017
liberalchick:
As a Christian, even though you believe in miracles and you believe that God can do the impossible, miracles do occur within reasonable believable event. E.g, will you believe a miracle where a man's head was cut off ( clean no nerves attached) and suddenly a new head grows back? If you understand what a uterus is, then there is NO way a uterus can grow back ( akin to a new head growing ). In fact it is so impossible that scientist have been trying to do a successful uterine transplant since the 18th century. It was only in 2011 a successful transplant was done. In 2014, the first live birth from a uterine transplant was achieved.

I have read/heard so many 'womb was removed but gave birth' testimonies and am amazed at how many people lap them up ( I believe Nigerians are smart ). Just like how you won't believe if someone told you they don't have a heart ( and the person is not a vampire) but he/she is standing before you and is breathing/pumping blood, then you would know the 'no womb' stories are bogus. A uterus is needed for an embryo to implant and then the placenta is formed where the baby gets nutrients from its mother. When implantation happens outside the uterus (ectopic preganancy) the mother can die, such baby is not viable. There is no other organ in the body that can support a living/GROWING embryo for NINE months.

Why are these testimonies common? 1. Embellished testimony: Probably, she was indeed diagnosed with infertility, where the doctor said she will not be able to give birth ( it happens a lot) no partial hysterectomy was done but to make the problem seem so insurmountable that only a great God can solve they added 'jara' after all only a pastor can qualify for such great miracle.
2. Cover up: surrogacy is still very much a stigma in our culture, so to prove she is woman enough to birth her own child and not use a 'rented' uterus ( even though there is nothing absolutely wrong with it) they concocted a cover story, a story so often told in 'testimonies'
3. Something more sinister, baby factories exist because there is a market for it.
4. Or worse a kidnapped baby.

I wish we had investigative journalism in this country, we benefited from one in the 90s, remember Abike Dabiri miracle baby story?
would have tried to enlighten u, if I thought you were a Christian. but you are obviously not. miracles do not occur within " reasonable believable limit". Because 'ALL THINGS are possible to him that believeth' there is no limit in that.
You serve the God of logic and reason and science. his epistle is what u are preaching, not the God of the Bible. Faith transcends the Rhelm of reason. That is why atheists will never understand God, And what they do not understand they call stupid.
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by felixomor: 6:59pm On Aug 11, 2017
blueAgent:
Atheist's Logic
Woman gave birth without Womb.response :it is impossible.

A Woman/Human was made by random wind and inanimate substances all by chance: possible

Tell me why Atheism is not insanity.
Spot ON!
Re: Winners Chapel Pastor's Wife Whose Womb Was Removed During Surgery Gives Birth(p by donnie(m): 6:28am On Aug 12, 2017
blueAgent:
Atheist's Logic
Woman gave birth without Womb.response :it is impossible.

A Woman/Human was made by random wind and inanimate substances all by chance: possible

Tell me why Atheism is not insanity.
It is foolishness
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