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triplec93:
It means you have a problem comprehending the English language, what is the difference blw associate and fellowship or stop associating/disassociate(as used in the scriptures) to disfellowship? pls you have an opinion and you can keep to it, but the truth remains the truth. I'm done with this thread.

It's your imperfect gb that has a problem with comprehension they assume not associating and not fellowshiping and subsequent shunning mean thesame thing

You know imperfect Gb interpretation is the truth because imperfect gb body told you that only their own non biblical interpretation is the truth.
Disfellowship and shunning was coined by your imperfect gb. These words are never found anywhere in the Bible. Imperfect gb assumes they mean thesame thing with do not associate
Imperfect gb assumption according to you people is equivalent to truth. Smh
Your imperfect gb propagates toxic and cruel teaching and force members to follow if you don't agree with imperfect men called gb assumptions you will be disfellowshiped and shunned. Smh

triplec93:
It means you have a problem comprehending the English language, what is the difference blw associate and fellowship or stop associating/disassociate(as used in the scriptures) to disfellowship? pls you have an opinion and you can keep to it, but the truth remains the truth. I'm done with this thread.

I really loved your responses so far, Just keep in mind when dealing with people like op and his supporters the words of Jude 10

 " But these men are speaking abusively
about all the things they really do not understand. ."

They never said authoritatively that you can't pursue higher degrees, of course I myself went to a Tertiary institution. I always make sure I attend meetings , Prayed, Read the Bible , Engage in preaching etc So that I will be focused and not get distracted with the various Immoral things on campus. BUT the truth remains that Higher education can be a shipwreck for the faith of many I know witnesses who left home and become another thing at school Both Guys and Girls .. engaging in Practices that are Scripturally wrong.

Proverb 22:3 says the wise person sees calamity and Hides himself , the inexperience keeps going and suffer the calamity

In other to safeguard the relationship many have with our heavenly father from such dangers or calamity to their faith , they try their best to give guidelines that can ensure that a person have riches with God and not just this earth.

triplec93:
Have a humble heart, pray to Jah, learn to stick to Jah and his organization. If you perceive a mole of mistake in Jah's organization and decide to leave you would face a mountain of wrongdoings out there.

From the video, if you are a jw and in a university, you are disobeying the gb, period.
The interesting thing is that most jw don't obey anymore and it's a very good thing. It's not difficult to see a continuous decline in % increase among jw.
Auxiliary pioneering hour requirement is now basically 30 hours, it used to be 70 hrs. If the end is as near as they claim and they are serious and believe that shouldn't pioneering hours go up and the number of pioneers increasing as in 1974?
Most witnesses have doubts but they know if they ever voice such a doubt, they are in danger.
No wonder, the 2017 Regional Convention say "Don't give up" when many already have.
See talk outlines of the 2017 RC here. https://www.nairaland.com/do_share?post=59127643&redirect=%2F3965643%2Fjehovahs-witnesses-2017-regional-convention%2359127643&session=7D7A3258EB365E6C1960F6A8960D1CB47EA0A59ACB66A4116BF1D91EA423BD5D

ScepticalPyrrho:
Truth be told...

If you truly have faith in Jesus Christ, and his teachings, you shouldn't bother about going to school. Your only concern should be going iabout preaching his teachings to people anywhere you can find listening ears. You shouldn't keep a family, or go school to get degrees.... you should be walking about in cheap cloths prepared to die of "persecution" anytime; because there is a place where mansions awaits you.

Except you don't have faith in heaven, then you would pursue a college degree. Heaven should be the only focus of a christian, not making a life here on this perishing earth.

You willl soon qualify to be a Jehovah's Witness governing member. Try move to New York. Lol.

CAPTIVATOR:
I really loved your responses so far, Just keep in mind when dealing with people like op and his supporters the words of Jude 10

Smh

I really loved your responses so far, Just keep in mind when dealing with people like op and his supporters the words of Jude 10

 " But these men are speaking abusively
about all the things they really do not understand. ."

Like I have said before that someone criticizes your doctrines doesn't mean he hates you or is abusive towards you

They never said authoritatively that you can't pursue higher degrees, of course I myself went to a Tertiary institution. I always make sure I attend meetings , Prayed, Read the Bible , Engage in preaching etc So that I will be focused and not get distracted with the various Immoral things on campus. BUT the truth remains that Higher education can be a shipwreck for the faith of many I know witnesses who left home and become another thing at school Both Guys and Girls .. engaging in Practices that are Scripturally wrong

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Why do you people always associate higher education with immoral activities? Good things happen and good people are seen in tertiary institutions. Why focus only on bad and immoral things? Stop being deceitful. You know people who became something else when they attended uni that still doesn't make higher education bad.

Proverb 22:3 says the wise person sees calamity and Hides himself , the inexperience keeps going and suffer the calamity

So tertiary education now causes calamity. Interesting. Like I said there are good sides in getting a higher education why focus only on the bad side? So what calamities befall those who get higher education?

In other to safeguard the relationship many have with our heavenly father from such dangers or calamity to their faith , they try their best to give guidelines that can ensure that a person have riches with God and not just this earth.

So safeguarding a relationship is means not getting a higher education? Interesting
God never said higher education is bad your imperfect gb said so. So the only relationship you are safe guarding is that with your gb.
So discouraging higher education means increasing riches with God. Smh
Saying getting a higher education is lack of faith in your god is a wrong teaching because it isn't biblical

Hairyrapunzel:
But leaving the organization will make my family and friends shun him because the imperfect men directed them to shun me

Baseless accusation

Jesus said whoever has more love for family members than they have for him is not worth Jesus. if you are convinced they are wrong, Family should not stop you from leaving ! - Matthew 10:37

Hairyrapunzel:
Smh







Like I have said before that someone criticizes your doctrines doesn't mean he hates you or is abusive towards you

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Why do you people always associate higher education with immoral activities? Good things happen and good people are seen in tertiary institutions. Why focus only on bad and immoral things? Stop being deceitful. You know people who became something else when they attended uni that still doesn't make higher education bad.



So tertiary education now causes calamity. Interesting. Like I said there are good sides in getting a higher education why focus only on the bad side? So what calamities befall those who get higher education?



So safeguarding a relationship is means not getting a higher education? Interesting
God never said higher education is bad your imperfect gb said so. So the only relationship you are safe guarding is that with your gb.
So discouraging higher education means increasing riches with God. Smh
Saying getting a higher education is lack of faith in your god is a wrong teaching because it isn't biblical

Am glad we both at least admit there are bad sides @ bold , And from personal experience I can tell you how I have to fight many temptations and urge to do what is not right in that Campus Environment. Not many can withstand that without falling to Sin or pursuing Fleshly desires, Since Prevention is always better than cure , I don't think its a bad idea to caution anyone against the bad sides.

mikeolu1:
By the way, I am not leaving for family reasons

continue your Hypocritical behavior in their midst.

The above post is enough for any reasonable person not to take you serious. - Read Matthew 10:37 probably you are just looking for cheap attention. a serious person doesn't joke with their relationship with God even if it means Going against their families.

CAPTIVATOR:
continue your Hypocritical behavior in their midst.

The above post is enough for any reasonable person not to take you serious. - Read Matthew 10:37 probably you are just looking for cheap attention. a serious person doesn't joke with their relationship with God even if it means Going against their families.

Thanks for your advice. I will get out when I safely can.
There are thousands in my situation; bethelites, COs, hundred of elders- I am one.
All letters to BOE are online even before elders get them. Those are coming from leaking in bethel.
Convention talk outlines are on the internet. That's coming from some COs
So, many of us are mentally out but physically in just to protect whatever we seem as important.
This is not the truth and you will sooner or later realize that fact.

mikeolu1:
Thanks for your advice. I will get out when I safely can.
There are thousands in my situation; bethelites, COs, hundred of elders- I am one.
All letters to BOE are online even before elders get them. Those are coming from leaking in bethel.
Convention talk outlines are on the internet. That's coming from some COs
So, many of us are mentally out but physically in just to protect whatever we seem as important.
This is not the truth and you will sooner or later realize that fact.

Not everyone is unserious like you . okay


Like I said, You are not serious at all ... if you are , You would have taken the brave decision I expect of you , Even Jesus found you unworthy of him, since Christ is not even important to you . - Matthew 10:37

Pure Jokers

CAPTIVATOR:
Am glad we both at least admit there are bad sides @ bold , And from personal experience I can tell you how I have to fight many temptations and urge to do what is not right in that Campus Environment. Not many can withstand that without falling to Sin or pursuing Fleshly desires, Since Prevention is always better than cure , I don't think its a bad idea to caution anyone against the bad sides.

So from your explanation because people choke when eating therefore eating is bad
Higher education is never and will never be a disease. It is a necessity and avoiding it should never be preached. religious extremists always discourage some or all forms of education

Discouraging people from getting higher education is a tool used by your imperfect men to limit the contact with people who are not jws

Your leaders don't want people to question their interpretation of the Bible and also they want cheap and free labour period.

Hairyrapunzel:
So from your explanation because people choke when eating therefore eating is bad
Higher education is never and will never be a disease. It is a necessity and avoiding it should never be preached. religious extremists always discourage some or all forms of education

Discouraging people from getting higher education is a tool used by your imperfect men to limit the contact with people who are not jws

Your leaders don't want people to question their interpretation of the Bible and also they want cheap and free labour period.

You got it. Best put.

CAPTIVATOR:
Baseless accusation

Jesus said whoever has more love for family members than they have for him is not worth Jesus. if you are convinced they are wrong, Family should not stop you from leaving ! - Matthew 10:37

But Jesus never said whoever says what the imperfect gb teaches is non biblical and doesn't agree with their own interpretation is not worthy of me

Jesus did not say who ever leaves Jehovah witnesses church is not worthy of me

Jesus did not say whosoever doesnt believe in watchtower organization interpretation of the Bible is not worthy of me.

Jesus was referring to himself he wasn't talking about any church or religious leaders

That you don't believe or you don't agree with imperfect gb non biblical beliefs or teaching is not hating and will never be hating Jesus. Except you are saying imperfect gb members are now Jesus Christ.

CAPTIVATOR:
Baseless accusation

Jesus said whoever has more love for family members than they have for him is not worth Jesus. if you are convinced they are wrong, Family should not stop you from leaving ! - Matthew 10:37

A teenager who got baptized at 13 and who changed his mind not to be a witness at 17 will be shunnned by parents. Think about that for a minute.
Many present Jw got baptized as a teenager, they can't leave because their entire existence is a tied to agreeing with the gb.
No record of people getting baptized as a teenage in d Bible.
There is a reason why teenagers are not allowed to get married because they can't get into lifelong commitment, but in jw land, that doesn't matter.

CAPTIVATOR:
Not everyone is unserious like you . okay


Like I said, You are not serious at all ... if you are , You would have taken the brave decision I expect of you , Even Jesus found you unworthy of him, since Christ is not even important to you . - Matthew 10:37

Pure Jokers

Just put it as the imperfect gb is not important to you or watchtower isn't important to you. Don't call Jesus in this matter. Jesus wasn't the person who discouraged higher education. Your imperfect gb said so.

Is it a crime to not agree with imperfect gb teaching on saying getting a higher education equals lack of faith?

Stop the guilt trip. You are the joker here. He put his family before 7 imperfect men in New York's Non biblical teaching period.
He doesn't agree with the statement the imperfect man made it isn't a crime.

mikeolu1:
A teenager who got baptized at 13 and who changed his mind not to be a witness at 17 will be shunnned by parents. Think about that for a minute.
Many present Jw got baptized as a teenager, they can't leave because their entire existence is a tied to agreeing with the gb.
No record of people getting baptized as a teenage in d Bible.
There is a reason why teenagers are not allowed to get married because they can't get into lifelong commitment, but in jw land, that doesn't matter.

Since you are convinced they are wrong, the love you have for Jesus should move you to walk out from their midst since they are false according to you, Follow Matthew 10:37 and stop giving Fake and silly excuses . Your love for Christ should be much more than the love you have for your family members or what they gonna think about you. Shows you ain't serious after all.

Hairyrapunzel:
So from your explanation because people choke when eating therefore eating is bad
Higher education is never and will never be a disease. It is a necessity and avoiding it should never be preached. religious extremists always discourage some or all forms of education

Discouraging people from getting higher education is a tool used by your imperfect men to limit the contact with people who are not jws


Your leaders don't want people to question their interpretation of the Bible and also they want cheap and free labour period.

Only reasonable ones can understand my point not people who are abusively speaking about things they do not understand. Jude 10


" There is no question that secular education has
its advantages . But the Bible places a higher value upon a spiritual education, and God has given
parents the responsibility to provide such
instruction. (Deuteronomy 11:18, 19; Proverbs
3:13, 14)" - Watchtower October 1, 1996.



Nobody said Higher Education doesn't have its own advantages. More emphasis is just placed on Spirituality and relationship with God, so guidelines NOT laws are given.


Besides, contrary to your opinion @ bold .. I have one Leader, Christ.

Hairyrapunzel:
But Jesus never said whoever says what the imperfect gb teaches is non biblical and doesn't agree with their own interpretation is not worthy of me

Jesus did not say who ever leaves Jehovah witnesses church is not worthy of me

Jesus did not say whosoever doesnt believe in watchtower organization interpretation of the Bible is not worthy of me.

Jesus was referring to himself he wasn't talking about any church or religious leaders

That you don't believe or you don't agree with imperfect gb non biblical beliefs or teaching is not hating and will never be hating Jesus. Except you are saying imperfect gb members are now Jesus Christ.

You see what am saying about been reasonable at times , am not sure you even read and understand that verse. Next time breath and calm down before you give replies Sir , Read Matthew 10:37 again ... if a person is ready to follow Jesus , family members should not be an hindrance. . the main point of that verse which destroy his silly excuse for not leaving.

So which means since this joker is convinced that His religion is wrong, then he should take the necessary step by Leaving them in other to Follow Jesus effectively . He shouldn't care about what they will say or do to him . his focus should be on finding the right place to follow Jesus effectively. Which evidently is not even in his mind , Even Jesus isn't important to him that is why he feel trapped by his family and Jesus said such a person is unworthy of him.

CAPTIVATOR:
Only reasonable ones can understand my point not people who are abusively speaking about things they do not understand. Jude 10

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Nobody is slandering you. Your leaders the 7 imperfect men in New York aka gb say getting a higher education means lacking faith. This is not and will never be a biblical teaching. That is why your imperfect gb are abusive towards higher education. It is called being unreasonable
Thank God the Bible never said if we don't agree with 7 imperfect men in New York's non biblical stance then we are unreasonable

" There is no question that secular education has
its advantages . But the Bible places a higher value upon a spiritual education, and God has given
parents the responsibility to provide such
instruction. (Deuteronomy 11:18, 19; Proverbs
3:13, 14)" - Watchtower October 1, 1996.

This is a straw man fallacy, because regardless of how important a spiritual education may be, it does not enable a person to enter professional occupations which a parent cannot teach except their children get a higher education. Getting a spiritual education should never be placed above getting a higher education. And higher education should never be discouraged because of spiritual education.

Nobody said Higher Education doesn't have its own advantages. More emphasis is just placed on Spirituality and relationship with God, so guidelines NOT laws are given.

But you lay more emphasis on the bad things. You want to change what you have said you said higher education is associated with immoral activities and it affects your members spirituality.
Then your imperfect gb should not propagating false beliefs about higher education to its members. Higher education is a necessity. Knowledge is power.
Your bethel and headquarters require services of those who got higher education #HYPOCRISY

I have one Leader, Christ. so keep your irrelevant opinions to yourself

The 7 imperfect men in New York make your laws and guidelines. They can even change it saying its old light. They are your leaders whether you like it or not

Hairyrapunzel:
Nobody is slandering you. Your leaders the 7 imperfect men in New York aka gb say getting a higher education means lacking faith. This is not and will never be a biblical teaching. That is why your imperfect gb are abusive towards higher education. It is called being unreasonable
Thank God the Bible never said if we don't agree with 7 imperfect men in New York's non biblical stance then we are unreasonable




This is a straw man fallacy, because regardless of how important a spiritual education may be, it does not enable a person to enter professional occupations which a parent cannot teach except their children get a higher education. Getting a spiritual education should never be placed above getting a higher education. And higher education should never be discouraged because of spiritual education.

Evidently you are just a slanderer , Please Which Education gives Everlasting Life ?

Why am I even wasting time with you with the bolded, Go and study the First and most important Law given to man .

CAPTIVATOR:
You see what am saying about been reasonable at times , am not sure you even read and understand that verse. Next time breath and calm down before you give replies Sir , Read Matthew 10:37 again ... if a person is ready to follow Jesus , family members should not be an hindrance. . the main point of that verse which destroy his silly excuse for not leaving.

So which means since this joker is convinced that His religion is wrong, then he should take the necessary step by Leaving them in other to Follow Jesus effectively . He shouldn't care about what they will say or do to him . his focus should be on finding the right place to follow Jesus effectively. Which evidently is not even in his mind , Even Jesus isn't important to him that is why he feel trapped by his family and Jesus said such a person is unworthy of him.

Don't try to hide the fact that in your religion when you leave or don't agree with imperfect men teaching they will tell your family and friends to shun you

Don't try to turn it. If you are following Jesus doesn't mean you will have to stop talking or associating with your friends and family
He knows if he leaves his family and friends will stop talking to him .
Cutting ones social support system is the worst criminal offence.
Op is human that he has decided to stay doesn't mean he is putting his family before Jesus it just shows he cares
Jesus never said his followers should stop talking to OR cut all ties with their families so they can love him more.

I don't know any passage in the Bible that says only when you stop talking to your family and friends or stop associating with them or cut all ties with them that you love Jesus more
Or any passage that says your family and friends should shun you because you disagree with imperfect gb member non biblical teaching

CAPTIVATOR:
Evidently you are just a slanderer , Please Which Education gives Everlasting Life ?

Why am I even wasting time with you with the bolded, Go and study the First and most important Law given to man .

Is you that is a slanderer. Teaching what isn't in the Bible. Believing in Jesus Christ gives you everlasting life. Higher education is good people should be encouraged to get it not discouraged by saying its only when they go to uni they do immoral things.

No law in the Bible discourages higher education and no law in the Bible states that if you disagree with imperfect gb that means you are sinning.

It's you that needs to read the Bible. Propagating what isn't in the Bible is wrong.

In your bethel the people who listen to your imperfect gb end up as waiters, maids, bricklayers, carpenters,drafters, electricians etc they serve and follow the instructions of people who had higher education be profiting of peoples lack of University education and giving them peanuts so they can help you build your empire all in the name of Armageddon is around the corner

You discourage people from going to university to have more hold in controlling them period.

Hairyrapunzel:
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Your case is critical , let me come down to your level since you can't comprehend. Spiritual things refer to Those things that has to do with the Bible and God.

Since you said spiritual/Biblical Education should not be placed above higher education .

Which Education gives Everlasting life ? i need an answer

Hairyrapunzel:
Don't try to hide the fact that in your religion when you leave or don't agree with imperfect men teaching they will tell your family and friends to shun you

Don't try to turn it. If you are following Jesus doesn't mean you will have to stop talking or associating with your friends and family
He knows if he leaves his family and friends will stop talking to him .
Cutting ones social support system is the worst criminal offence.
Op is human that he has decided to stay doesn't mean he is putting his family before Jesus it just shows he cares
Jesus never said his followers should stop talking to OR cut all ties with their families so they can love him more.

I don't know any passage in the Bible that says only when you stop talking to your family and friends or stop associating with them or cut all ties with them that you love Jesus more
Or any passage that says your family and friends should shun you because you disagree with imperfect gb member non biblical teaching

The above rants confirm you don't understand anything in that Scripture .

nobody ask him not to talk to his family, But the main issue is when the fear of family prevents you from doing what you think is right .


I quoted Matthew 10:37 which says

" He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me " @ bold , If he is convinced that Where his family belongs his false, And there is no Jesus Christ there , and yet he stayed ( He is deceiving himself ) It means he cared more for his family than Jesus . DIGEST THAT VERSE again. he is a coward , Not worthy of Christ.

CAPTIVATOR:
The above rants confirm you don't understand anything in that Scripture .

nobody ask him not to talk to his family, But the main issue is when the fear of family prevents you from doing what you think is right .


I quoted Matthew 10:37 which says

" He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me " @ bold , If he is convinced that Where his family belongs his false, And there is no Jesus Christ there , and yet he stayed ( He is deceiving himself ) It means he cared more for his family than Jesus . DIGEST THAT VERSE again. he is a coward , Not worthy of Christ.

Below is a video of one of the GB during the Australian child abuse commission hearing.
If you watch the whole video, you'll be ashamed that this guy is one who control more than 8 million people.
He lied on several occasions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6X1YU6YYI

CAPTIVATOR:
Your case is critical , let me come down to your level since you can't comprehend. Spiritual things refer to Those things that has to do with the Bible and God.

Since you said spiritual/Biblical Education should not be placed above higher education .

Which Education gives Everlasting life ? i need an answer

It's your case that is Critical.

Spiritual education and higher education are entirely two different things with two different outcomes. Therefore you can't place going to bethel or gilead above going to a university. do not discourage one and promote the other . Bible never discouraged higher education. Your governing body did. It is going against the Bible when you preach that people wanting to become doctors or lawyers do not have faith in God. It is a false teaching


No passage in the Bible says any education can give you everlasting life. Everlasting life is gotten through your personal relationship with Jesus Christ and by his Grace.
Maybe your imperfect gb has taught you that is spiritual education that gives you everlasting life my Bible never said so. Read your Bible.

CAPTIVATOR:
The above rants confirm you don't understand anything in that Scripture .

nobody ask him not to talk to his family, But the main issue is when the fear of family prevents you from doing what you think is right .


I quoted Matthew 10:37 which says

" He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me " @ bold , If he is convinced that Where his family belongs his false, And there is no Jesus Christ there , and yet he stayed ( He is deceiving himself ) It means he cared more for his family than Jesus . DIGEST THAT VERSE again. he is a coward , Not worthy of Christ.

Normal jw way always cursing. He doesn't want his family and friends to stop talking to him or cease contact with him.
Jesus would care for his family and friends. Like I said loving Jesus Christ does not mean you will cut ties with your family
Then he is serving Jesus if he doesn't love his family in the first place
Don't justify evil deeds. There is nowhere Jesus Christ told his followers that if they don't agree with imperfect gb beliefs they should stop talking to their families

Hairyrapunzel:
It's your case that is Critical.

Spiritual education and higher education are entirely two different things with two different outcomes.

Low comprehension , So by the above what is the outcome of Spiritual education ?

[quote author=mikeolu1 post=59319567][/quote]Am not gonna take you serious until you obey Matthew 10:37 . Coward . how can fear of family prevent you from doing what you think is right?

CAPTIVATOR:
The above rants confirm you don't understand anything in that Scripture .

nobody ask him not to talk to his family, But the main issue is when the fear of family prevents you from doing what you think is right .


I quoted Matthew 10:37 which says

" He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me " @ bold , If he is convinced that Where his family belongs his false, And there is no Jesus Christ there , and yet he stayed ( He is deceiving himself ) It means he cared more for his family than Jesus . DIGEST THAT VERSE again. he is a coward , Not worthy of Christ.

If your imperfect gb members say you should be a robot and not have feelings good for you
Op is human and cares about his family members. It doesn't affect the love he has for Jesus Christ.
Stop the guilt trip it is irritating. You can't hide your happiness at seeing families break.
Stop trying to make it look like if he leaves the organization he will be the one shunning them
We know his family will be pressured into cutting off all contact with him because your imperfect gb says so

We both know that your belief says that if he leaves your organization it is equivalent with leaving Jehovah and his family still in should shun him because they love Jehovah and the organization more. This is also your imperfect gb teaching

Hairyrapunzel:
Normal jw way always cursing. He doesn't want his family and friends to stop talking to him or cease contact with him.
Jesus would care for his family and friends. Like I said loving Jesus Christ does not mean you will cut ties with your family
Then he is serving Jesus if he doesn't love his family in the first place
Don't justify evil deeds. There is nowhere Jesus Christ told his followers that if they don't agree with imperfect gb beliefs they should stop talking to their families

Stop this low comprehension Sir , If your family and friends will prevent you from following Christ . Leave them . That's the message of Matthew 10:37 ,

" I came to put , NOT PEACE but a Sword , For I came to cause DIVISION , with a man against his Father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother in law" Matthew 10: 34,35

CAPTIVATOR:
Low comprehension , So by the above what is the outcome of Spiritual education ?

High comprehension Bible did not say spiritual education will give you everlasting life your governing body said so.