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Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by Ermacc: 9:28pm On Aug 10, 2017
chemystery:
hehehehe...with you dummy god I guess
You are not an atheist. You are just confused, really confused. You ve read too many comical threads posted by religion skeptics
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by CoolUsername: 9:29pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
How many times have I given examples of people who thought they could disprove the existence of GOd

Stephen Hawking : There is no God because the universe created itself because there is a law such as gravity

Rebuttal One : A thing cannot create itself

Rebuttal Two : Laws do not create anything , they are merely descriptions of what happens under certain conditions


David Hume : The universe is a necessary being since it is eternal , there is no God ( medieval age )

Rebuttal One : All scientific evidence indicate the universe has a beginning , there is no evidence or indication that the universe is eternal .

Rebuttal Two : An eternal universe though there is no such thing does not preclude the existence of God , it renders God impersonal if such exists .

If you can't provide "evidence" or reason there is no God like these people have done then don't bother .
What do these arguments have to do with mine? I said proving non-existence is impossible.

Simply put, I lack belief in God the same way I lack belief in Superman. I want to assume that you also lack belief in Superman.

Now, the difference is you believe non-existence can be proven while I don't. So show me how it can be proven with the case of Superman. Simple!

You can either do it or admit ignorance.

If you do not do any of the those two then you are nothing more than a dishonest jester. But I know you aren't.
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by chemystery: 9:29pm On Aug 10, 2017
butterflylion:
Kindebukasblog this guy is a big pile of stinking joke.

He openly declared he holds some facts and asked me to put faith aside and after I agreed now wants me to use my faith again while yet not presenting none of his numerous facts.

Logic has suffered Abeg. cheesy
calling for support. At most he will quote you in return and you guys will laugh at your dummy god who's failed a simple practical. Kikikikikiki grin
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by Nobody: 9:30pm On Aug 10, 2017
butterflylion:
You are actually the one being slippery. How can you insist on presenting facts and yet want me to use my faith to show you the facts you claim to have.

This is how facts are gotten: Get born again and spirit filled and then look for someone whom you compassionately want to be healed or whom you genuinely desire God's touch to be upon (controlled environment) pray via faith and with deep desire for God's touch and when God fails you have your proof.

My evidence would prove nothing to you if you do not have your own which is where your personal facts come in. So where are they?
So all the amputees at the various Pentecostal events whose limbs did not grow back did not have enough faith or a deep enough desire for gods touch huh
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:31pm On Aug 10, 2017
chemystery:
KingEbukasBlog, butterflylion

OK, I want to prove now your god doesn't exist.

We'll make this practical cos talk is cheap. I will give you a practical task, while you give me a practical task.

But I will use the same method used by Elijah in your bible to prove Baal does not exist.

First, one of the proof of your god's existence is through miracles and answered prayers.

TASK
I really don't want to be an atheist again. Can you both just pray to your god. The god that hardened pharaohs heart. The god that answers by fire to just do a simple task by converting my heart and maybe every other atheists on nairaland.

RESULT
If by tomorrow, I become a theist again, your god exists. Else, he also exists but in your fantasies.

Start calling your god. Kikikikikikikiki grin
Logical fallacy , denial of the antecedent . It goes thus : A implies B, B is false, therefore A is false.

If God exists he will prove himself and respond through miracles and answered prayers . But if God does not respond through miracles and answered prayers , then He does not exist

Truth : God can choose not to respond and it does not imply He does not exist .
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by Nobody: 9:34pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Truth : God can choose not to respond and it does not imply He does not exist .
It does not imply he\she\they\them exist either
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by Ermacc: 9:34pm On Aug 10, 2017
CoolUsername:
What do these arguments have to do with mine? I said proving non-existence is impossible.

Simply put, I lack belief in God the same way I lack belief in Superman. I want to assume that you also lack belief in Superman.

Now, the difference is you believe non-existence can be proven while I don't. So show me how it can be proven with the case of Superman. Simple!

You can either do it or admit ignorance.

If you do not do any of the those two then you are nothing more than a dishonest jester. But I know you aren't.
Superman is a fictional character created by Jerry shuster and Joe siegel in the 1940's.
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:35pm On Aug 10, 2017
CoolUsername:
What do these arguments have to do with mine? I said proving non-existence is impossible.

Simply put, I lack belief in God the same way I lack belief in Superman. I want to assume that you also lack belief in Superman.

Now, the difference is you believe non-existence can be proven while I don't. So show me how it can be proven with the case of Superman. Simple!

You can either do it or admit ignorance.

If you do not do any of the those two then you are nothing more than a dishonest jester. But I know you aren't.
I told you not to bother if you can't provide your reasons like your supreme leaders did . You claim it is impossible to prove non existence , then provide reasons why you think there is no God undecided Or is it impossible to do that too grin
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:36pm On Aug 10, 2017
LightandDarkness:
It does not imply - exist either
Did I even suggest this ?
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by CoolUsername: 9:37pm On Aug 10, 2017
Ermacc:
Superman is a fictional character created by Jerry shuster and Joe siegel in the 1940's.
God is a fictional character created by ancient human tribes.
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:38pm On Aug 10, 2017
CoolUsername:
God is a fictional character created by ancient human tribes.
Prove it !
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by butterflylion: 9:38pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Logical fallacy , denial of the antecedent . It goes thus : A implies B, B is false, therefore A is false.

If God exists he will prove himself and respond through miracles and answered prayers . But if God does not respond through miracles and answered prayers , then He does not exist

Truth : God can choose not to respond and it does not imply He does not exist .
He will never get it because he thinks God is a robot that must do what has been programmed into him.
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by CoolUsername: 9:39pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
I told you not to bother if you can't provide your reasons like your supreme leaders did . You claim it is impossible to prove non existence , then provide reasons why you think there is no God undecided Or it is impossible to do that too grin
I asked a question first, your attempts to divert attention from it show your ineptitude in logic.

Or are you really just a dishonest jester?
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by butterflylion: 9:40pm On Aug 10, 2017
CoolUsername:
God is a fictional character created by ancient human tribes.
Ogbeni Oya start proving.
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:40pm On Aug 10, 2017
butterflylion:
He will never get it because he thinks God is a robot that must do what has been programmed into him.
It also shows his ignorance of whom or what God is .
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by butterflylion: 9:41pm On Aug 10, 2017
CoolUsername:
What do these arguments have to do with mine? I said proving non-existence is impossible.

Simply put, I lack belief in God the same way I lack belief in Superman. I want to assume that you also lack belief in Superman.

Now, the difference is you believe non-existence can be proven while I don't. So show me how it can be proven with the case of Superman. Simple!

You can either do it or admit ignorance.

If you do not do any of the those two then you are nothing more than a dishonest jester. But I know you aren't.
Proving non-existence is impossible ba? But declaring God does not exist based on your numerous non existent facts is possible ba?
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:42pm On Aug 10, 2017
butterflylion:
Ogbeni Oya start proving.
Hehe , the guy don enter trap

Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by butterflylion: 9:43pm On Aug 10, 2017
chemystery:
calling for support. At most he will quote you in return and you guys will laugh at your dummy god who's failed a simple practical. Kikikikikiki grin
Support? Rara o. I was simply pointing out an obvious observation to him. Me I be one man mopol. Na Una dey run in packs.
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by chemystery: 9:43pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Logical fallacy , denial of the antecedent . It goes thus : A implies B, B is false, therefore A is false.

If God exists he will prove himself and respond through miracles and answered prayers . But if God does not respond through miracles and answered prayers , then He does not exist

Truth : God can choose not to respond and it does not imply He does not exist .
following your logic, why didn't you also say the universe can exist and does not imply god exists. Meanwhile this got to do with gods existence. He surely gonna prove me wrong like he did in the days of Elijah. Have you lost your faith? Try the practical first na make e remain say god no answer. If a prayer of a sinner is an abomination, you can ask your pastor for support.

No you see talk is cheap. Religion is about talk and no practical proof of god.

If you can't do this, then I have gone a long way to prove your god doesn't exist
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by Nobody: 9:43pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Did I even suggest this ?
No, it is the obvious other conclusion though.

Also there's another reply I gave you you haven't answered. I'm interested in your perspective
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:45pm On Aug 10, 2017
CoolUsername:
I asked a question first, your attempts to divert attention from it show your ineptitude in logic.

Or are you really just a dishonest jester?
I answered your question : since non existence cannot be proven , then provide reasons why you think there is no God

Oh you did , you claimed that God is a fictional character created by ancient tribes men

Can you provide evidence including pictures and names of these ancient tribes that created the fictional character 'God' . Also include date , place and time this event took place

At least we know we can do so for Superman , can't we ?

Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:48pm On Aug 10, 2017
chemystery:
following your logic, why didn't you also say the universe can exist and does not imply god exists. Meanwhile this got to do with gods existence. He surely gonna prove me wrong like he did in the days of Elijah. Have you lost your faith? Try the practical first na make e remain say god no answer. If a prayer of a sinner is an abomination, you can ask your pastor for support.

No you see talk is cheap. Religion is about talk and no practical proof of god.

If you can't do this, then I have gone a long way to prove your god doesn't exist
I've told you numerous times , the deists reject religion and still acknowledge the existence of God . Why do you keep on repeating this same rebutted nonsense .
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by butterflylion: 9:49pm On Aug 10, 2017
author=chemystery post=59351838]following your logic, why didn't you also say the universe can exist and does not imply god exists. Meanwhile this got to do with gods existence. He surely gonna prove me wrong like he did in the days of Elijah. Have you lost your faith? Try the practical first na make e remain say god no answer. If a prayer of a sinner is an abomination, you can ask your pastor for support.

No you see talk is cheap. Religion is about talk and no practical proof of god.

If you can't do this, then I have gone a long way to prove your god doesn't exist
Your comment below. E be like say you don forget am so quickly


chemystery: 8:44pm



You only saw the bolded but you didn't see this: You can't reason a man out of where he didn't reason himself into

I can't start giving you facts when you mind is only open to faith but closed to fact.

But if you are ready to embrace facts in lieu of fate, I can give you


We dropped our faith at your request and now you are jumping on the faith wagon. Your confusion get horn.
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by hahn(m): 9:49pm On Aug 10, 2017
LightandDarkness:
It does not imply he\she\they\them exist either
it You forgot it

God is a thing, an idea a figment of theists imagination. It doesn't exist smiley
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by butterflylion: 9:50pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
I answered your question : since non existence cannot be proven , then provide reasons why you think there is no God

Oh you did , you claimed that God is a fictional character created by ancient tribes men

Can you provide evidence including pictures and names of these ancient tribes that created the fictional character 'God' . Also include date , place and time this event took place

At least we know we can do so for Superman , can't we ?
cheesy cheesy Na die he dey.
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by Ermacc: 9:53pm On Aug 10, 2017
hahn:
it You forgot it

God is a thing, an idea a figment of theists imagination. It doesn't exist smiley
Because "it" refused to heal an amputeee in your controlled environment?
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by butterflylion: 9:54pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
I answered your question : since non existence cannot be proven , then provide reasons why you think there is no God

Oh you did , you claimed that God is a fictional character created by ancient tribes men

Can you provide evidence including pictures and names of these ancient tribes that created the fictional character 'God' . Also include date , place and time this event took place

At least we know we can do so for Superman , can't we ?
Chemystery I love you more than Kingebukasblog does. He asked for pictures but me I can do without pictures but the others on the list he provided must be tendered as evidence in my court of law. Kikikikikiki cheesy

Kingebukasblog you eh! grin
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by chemystery: 9:57pm On Aug 10, 2017
Ermacc:
You are not an atheist. You are just confused, really confused. You ve read too many comical threads posted by religion skeptics
I agree. Oya, can you do my practical?
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:58pm On Aug 10, 2017
butterflylion:
Chemystery I love you more than Kingebukasblog does. He asked for pictures but me I can do without pictures but the others on the list he provided must be tendered as evidence in my court of law. Kikikikikiki cheesy

Kingebukasblog you eh! grin
grin grin grin

They think they sabi , dem so sabi at all cheesy cheesy grin grin grin
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by hahn(m): 9:58pm On Aug 10, 2017
Ermacc:
Because "it" refused to heal an amputeee in your controlled environment?
That's a start. It also doesn't do anything about the 3,000 children that die daily from malaria daily

Malaria kills one child every 30 seconds, about 3000 children every day. Over one million people die from malaria each year, mostly children under five years of age, with 90 per cent of malaria cases occurring in Sub-Saharan Africa.
THE REALITY OF MALARIA The largest killer of children ... - Unicef
https://www.unicef.org/health/files/health_africamalaria.pdf
If this god does exist, it deserves to be flayed undecided
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by chemystery: 9:59pm On Aug 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
I've told you numerous times , the deists reject religion and still acknowledge the existence of God . Why do you keep on repeating this same rebutted nonsense .
and so?
Re: Help, I Want To Become An Atheist by butterflylion: 10:00pm On Aug 10, 2017
chemystery:
I agree. Oya, can you do my practical?
You are the one who insisted on having facts and begged that we drop our faith so we logically and with open minds view your facts. We did ooo. But now you refuse showing us your facts but insist on seeing our faith. This is nothing but confusion raised to power infinity.
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