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lfleak:
Actually, he is right to thank God, but ranting that God didn't save the others as a weakness is a sign of cognitive dissonance....

Those who died were already destined to die at that moment even if they do not enter the vehicle.. You and I have a predestinated date and time of death that no one can change.. Definitely his time is not yet...

Though am talking from an Islamic point of view..

Jeffrey12:
Holy shit.... Thank God for ur life...

But i haven't heard of that state you said you were travelling to oo... "Benin state"

kjhova:
If the dead die because they are destined to die at that point and the survivor lives cuz he is not destined to die at this time, There is still no point to thanking god cuz when his time comes, no amount of prayers to big daddy will save him.

Death is a very randonm process that occurs billions of times daily across species from the microbial organisms to large mammals like humans and elephants. Just as this misguided and ignorant corper cheated death, many impallas and seals did too by narrowly escaping lions and tiger sharks about the same time. Was it god or luck for the impalla?

Live life and make the most of your time here and do not let baseless religious assumptions limit you.

bcgeorgeto:
He said benin city not benin state.... read carefully b4 trying to correct ppl.... itk

BossBae1:
ooh Jos is not a state?? ??

LOL...

MY 6 YR OLD NIECE AIN'T AROUND I'UD HAVE GIVEN HER THE PHONE TO REPLY YOU.
BY THE WAY, JOS IS NOT A STATE DEAR. JOS IS A COUNTRY.

nero2face:
Could this be Real?, initially they said ENUGU CORPERS, now it's EDO COPPERS, this guy known very well to me, we were both in platoon 1 at OKADA CAMP in EDO STATE, we have a platoon whatsapp group and I didn't hear it from anyone there, pliz someone should be straight with this report...

Jeffrey12:
Holy shit.... Thank God for ur life...

But i haven't heard of that state you said you were travelling to oo... "Benin state"

davidodiba:
Just imagine you survived an ordeal that killed others? Will you make this statement? I know God will forgive you for this statement but if I were Him, I would ensure you get good cracks in that empty brain of yours and as you would be dying you would be shouting my God! My God!!
I wish I were God at this point because of your nonsense comment. The moment you quote me, I will look for you.

lfleak:
Yea.. there was no reason to thank God you're right, but it is also not harmful to do so..

Baseless religious assumptions limits me..? It might limit those who have no purpose in life though..

Kobicove:
"This God is too much" my arse!

If indeed he is too much why did he allow others to die in the accident?

Liveair:
Shame...if that's the best your God can do.

If you only knew how vast the universe is and how totally random things work, you'd know how clueless your God is.

gemale:
I know the universe is vast but truly i don't know how vast (i haven't even visited half of the states in Nigeria) but i know that the God i serve created all of them. What we call random is because we don't fully understand how the universe work due to our infinitesimal ability compared to the all knowing Almighty God. Does a machine work randomly? Isn't there a certain mechanism of function? Doesn't it have a maker? Can 1 say because he/she hasn't seen or known the maker of a machine, the machine has no maker? Something cannot come out of nothing. There has to be a source. The universe & all that is in it is too big & complex not to have a maker that created it & sustains it.

kjhova:
Yep, it isn't harmful to thank god as it isn't harmful to thank any of the gods that man ever created.

Your second paragraph simply chuckles me.

lfleak:
it simply illogical to exist more than one God.. Agreed??

kjhova:
I will know to agree or disagree if I understood your unclear post.

Liveair:
From your post, it's clear that your God also has a creator right?

lfleak:
I mean.. You athiest simply hold to a point of why multiple gods?

gemale:
If your intention is to mock God, kindly desist. Do not mistake His silence & long suffering for foolishness. If it's to mock me, i take no offence. It might be that you didn't understand the allegory i gave. I likened the universe to a machine & God its maker. The fact that the universe exists points to the fact that it was made therefore it has a maker. Do you know the name of the person(s) (not the company) who made the phone you use? What do you know about the people who manufactured the numerous parts that form the components of your phone? Where do they live? Can you tell me their nationality, history, age, weight, marital status and other information? So saying that God is imaginary is like saying that the makers of the phone you use are imaginary & your phone works "randomly".

kjhova:
Atheism is not a creed and thus holds on to nothing. The basic tenet is that the natural world is understandable and explainable and is all that is and that the idea of a realm of spirits, devils and gods do not exist except in the figment of the simple mind of man.

lfleak:
you are a creature.. Y or N

kjhova:
No you are not...and i doubt that you understand that.

lfleak:
you are not a creature, then you are what?

kjhova:
Dude, if you have the time to spare, put forth your opinion here and let's digest and respond appropriately.

NL is a proper forum and not a messaging app like BBM or Whatsapp with 140 character restrictions. I cannot keep going back and forth with you on one-liners like two little lovers. I hereby end the conversation on this note until you articulate yourself properly.

gemale:
If your intention is to mock God, kindly desist. Do not mistake His silence & long suffering for foolishness. If it's to mock me, i take no offence. It might be that you didn't understand the allegory i gave. I likened the universe to a machine & God its maker. The fact that the universe exists points to the fact that it was made therefore it has a maker. Do you know the name of the person(s) (not the company) who made the phone you use? What do you know about the people who manufactured the numerous parts that form the components of your phone? Where do they live? Can you tell me their nationality, history, age, weight, marital status and other information? So saying that God is imaginary is like saying that the makers of the phone you use are imaginary & your phone works "randomly".

lfleak:
OK you don't seem to get my point.. Now let face your signature...
You said if you were god you wouldn't have let things be this bad.. First thank God you are not god or even a governor..

God has created many things, things we know and things we are yet to know and things we will never know...
The full meaning of the word Islam is "the peace attained by submitting to the will of Allah" every creature of Allah is submitting to the will of Allah..

A tree is submitting to the will of Allah, a mountain does same, the sun, moon, stars, asteroids, stones, water, fire, animals, plants and every thing created are all submitting to the will of Allah.. which is Islam.. Islam is not just a religion, its a culture, norm..
Even a child born today is a Muslim because he/she submits to the will of Allah.. Not until the child reach the stage of reasoning, he or she is a Muslim..but the influence of parents, family, friends, society makes him or her change religion...

Now the main point is why everything is in chaos...
Evey creature, created by God have no free will except Humans ... We are the only creature given freewill...giving a free will, we were also given very complex tools like the brain, and other organs..
Every one can do what dey will. .. Just like throwing you into a factory, and tell you to bring out a tecno phone out, you just enter and see random tools, without guidance you will never bring out a complete tecno phone, the guidance we need is the Quran.. You can argue that other religions will claim something, but we were given brains to distinguish Right from Wrong!
Sadly people judge Islam from Muslims ...I am a Muslim but you can never judge Islam via me. ..because I also have my shortcomings...

kjhova:
Dear friend,

You have chosen a very interesting way to narrate your religious views and your life philosophy. I appreciate that.

However, like you hinted in your post, many other religious folks will articulate their own religions in such way too to push on the conviction that theirs is the pure truth. I mean, I have met graceful Christians, Hindis and traditionalists who will swear down on the infallibility of their creed despite that their are critical and fundamental differences between and within all this religions.

So, is Allah the true god? As you are quick to say yes, the others are faster to say no?

Is Jesus the son of god? My Christian guy believes so while you and Vijay can easily see how incorrect this is.

Vijay has experienced the seven incarnations of Diwal despite that you muslim and christian friends of mine can only feel sorry for his ignorance.

Baba Arakangudu is highly convinced about the divinity of Ifa and its accessibility through the opele and the orishas despite that you all see him as an animist.

My point, my good friend is that every monotheist is only one god/religion away from being an atheist like me.

You can see the fallacy in all other religions except yours. I can see the fallacy in all religions including yours!

Any big difference between you and I? Not much, really. This is my thesis, that all gods are created in the minds of man when humanity was in its infancy. As we enter into a nanotechnological age and the era of interplanetary voyages, we will begin to experience the dawn of a post-religious world as atheism is the logical future of man.

lfleak:
h implies you don't want to even think of the existence of God not to talk of believing in him... You sound like even if there is, you will never believe because that is what atheism entails.. In your mind, iPhone is an intelligent design and your thumb is a coincidence. ?

kjhova:
iphone is obviously an intelligent design and the fact that it was made by Apple Inc is beyond doubt. It requires no faith and no believing from me to recognise the intellectual propriety behind the iphone. I don't need weekly sermons from prophets, priests and imams neither do I need revelations of mysteries to understand the principles behind the CDMA and/or GSM technologies that the device runs on. I also do not have to wait for the end of days for the mighty Apple CEO or President to "shew us all things".

Yes, you are right. I cannot countenance the existence of god/gods, never mind believing in one. This is not obstinacy on my part but rather a logical outcome of profoundly thorough and lengthy contemplation and observation of the natural world. That I should trade what my senses and my intellect can figure out for blind faith and believe in unseen and unheard from spirit beings is at best folly and in the worst description, stupidity.

This, my friend, is my submission.