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lordyugo:


Nope u r mixing apples nd oranges
Kenneth ws concise wit his assertion ,living in bondage was the first home movie nd d birth of nollywood and nobody ever said nigeria was lacking in theater artistry like stage plays, drama series on local tvs etc
Home movie is simply the commercialization of a movie industry(nollywood) and living in bondage ws the birth of it .
Nollywood is a movie industry and all the stage dramas on theatres nd plays on tv nvr translated to a movie industry

I witnessed both eras and I am more suitable to guide and correct you.Your definition of Nollywood as the commercialization of Nigerian films is patently wrong and even if I agree with you for the purpose of this argument,then you are still wrong because I remember watching these older films at the national theatre,Iganmu and those films are commercialized because these films are advertised on local TV and radio stations and Nigerians pay to buy their tickets and the queue is usually long and they are shown over a period of time making room for the artists to make even more money.

Businessideas:

This is not the beginning of nollywood,this ignorance has to stop.
This beautiful film at best is the beginning of the English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films coming several decades after the Baba Sala,Ade Love,Hubert Ogunde etc of Nollywood.
This is how history is being corrupted and centuries later people will be parading different history of the same country.O ga o.
Even Nollywood itself is older than Kenneth Okonkwo himself.

Exactly! Baba sala, jaguar, clarus and gringory, etc. Their era precedes that of living in bondage. I guess most people have forgotten about Herbert ogunde. Back then, it was more of cinema... There was Olympia cinema in the then, Bendel state.

Businessideas:

This is not the beginning of nollywood,this ignorance has to stop.
This beautiful film at best is the beginning of the English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films coming several decades after the Baba Sala,Ade Love,Hubert Ogunde etc of Nollywood.
This is how history is being corrupted and centuries later people will be parading different history of the same country.O ga o.
Even Nollywood itself is older than Kenneth Okonkwo himself.

We know that Hubert Ogunde and co started movies in Nigeria but their films could only be watched at Cinema houses. Nigerian movies weren't popular then, only some Yorubas and foreigners in the movie industry knew about them. Not much was known about their films by other tribes of Nigeria. the movie - living him bondage and venture of Ibos into the movie industry in Nigeria gave it a name and international recognition. There's no doubt that Yorubas laid the foundation but the name Nollywood was non existent and you can't watch thier films at home i.e home video.

Businessideas:

This is not the beginning of nollywood,this ignorance has to stop.
This beautiful film at best is the beginning of the English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films coming several decades after the Baba Sala,Ade Love,Hubert Ogunde etc of Nollywood.
This is how history is being corrupted and centuries later people will be parading different history of the same country.O ga o.
Even Nollywood itself is older than Kenneth Okonkwo himself.

What about "Mike ori iheidinma"?

Businessideas:

This is not the beginning of nollywood,this ignorance has to stop.
This beautiful film at best is the beginning of the English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films coming several decades after the Baba Sala,Ade Love,Hubert Ogunde etc of Nollywood.
This is how history is being corrupted and centuries later people will be parading different history of the same country.O ga o.
Even Nollywood itself is older than Kenneth Okonkwo himself.

Are you people naturally born to be like this?

Businessideas:

They are Nigerian films. The concept of Nollywood as controversial as the name is,refers to Nigerian films so why abridge the history of the existence of Nigerian films industry.

Let me tell you how the name Nollywood came about. Due to the rising popularity of home videos produced in Nigeria, some white men decided to visit Nigeria to see how they were able to become third largest film industry in the world within a short while. To cut story short, they were disappointed by the types of movie equipment they saw, they were expecting the types seen in Hollywood or something close to that and they said oh ”Not Hollywood". From then they named Nigerian movies Nollywood... Nollywood means not Hollywood! If you disagree with me ask Olu Jacobs.

luvinhubby:


Baba sala was more of a tv comedy series, chief Hubert Ogunde was more of stage drama, Ade love was produced for tvs mainly.
Living in bondage was done as a commercial project and distributed as a home movie, the commercialisation was the intro into the movie world in Nigeria.

You do not know me, so stop referring to me as 'young one'.

What we all need to do is to apply some persepective here, let us ask our selves did the U.S.A apportioned the birth of HOLLYWOOD,from which we coined our own naija version,to just the era of home videos?i mean no mention of BROADWAY that predates the era of VHS?let me put this in another way,there were hiphop/rap artistes in nigeria 'fore the remedies even though they brought the game to our wider attention,piomeers they not neither did the pioneers abandoned the genre of music.HOPE i've been able to contribute something useful.

Businessideas:

This is not the beginning of nollywood,this ignorance has to stop.
This beautiful film at best is the beginning of the English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films coming several decades after the Baba Sala,Ade Love,Hubert Ogunde etc of Nollywood.
This is how history is being corrupted and centuries later people will be parading different history of the same country.O ga o.
Even Nollywood itself is older than Kenneth Okonkwo himself.

Are u mistaking short stories for a full movie? Bros just read, listen and learn...
Living in bondage started it all as long as nollywood is concerned so deal with it!

Someone was uploading photos telling us Yorubas are industrious than any tribes in Nigeria. Igbos rock.

Businessideas:

You see.That is the problem with you young ones,lack of humility.
I just mentioned and listed films that are Nigerian films even with national popularity and you can easily and humbly read about them online.
There are films like Block busters like Aiye by Hubert Ogunde Group,Taxi Driver by Ade Love the father of the popular Afolayan brothers, Duro Ladipo group that were the awada kerikeri group, Baba Sala with that film he was shown committing suicide in a train track and so many other films of Nigerian actors and theater you may be too young to know and can easily read on.
Nollywood never started with living in bondage and it is pure ignorance to say that publicly.
The English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films came to the table very very very late and that's why it lacked depth like the preexisting genre of Nigerian films led by the Hubert Ogunde et al.
I just corrected and educated you with love

When was the word nollywood coined?

Those ancient movies you mentioned weren't nollywood movies. Those were just Nigerian movies and not nollywood.

Go check the history of nollywood and find out why and when it came into existence.

Stop mentioning fadeyi oloro and co. Even today's Yoruba movies aren't really called nollywood. Argue that!

Businessideas:
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I witnessed both eras and I am more suitable to guide and correct you.Your definition of Nollywood as the commercialization of Nigerian films is patently wrong and even if I agree with you for the purpose of this argument,then you are still wrong because I remember watching these older films at the national theatre,Iganmu and those films are commercialized because these films are advertised on local TV and radio stations and Nigerians pay to buy their tickets and the queue is usually long and they are shown over a period of time making room for the artists to make even more money.

Cut the long story short bro, home video is not theatre stage play or opera. Why don't you guys just give credit to these young igbo guys that brought us these far with their ingenuity. I hate tribalism from Yoruba people

Businessideas:

You see.That is the problem with you young ones,lack of humility.
I just mentioned and listed films that are Nigerian films even with national popularity and you can easily and humbly read about them online.
There are films like Block busters like Aiye by Hubert Ogunde Group,Taxi Driver by Ade Love the father of the popular Afolayan brothers, Duro Ladipo group that were the awada kerikeri group, Baba Sala with that film he was shown committing suicide in a train track and so many other films of Nigerian actors and theater you may be too young to know and can easily read on.
Nollywood never started with living in bondage and it is pure ignorance to say that publicly.
The English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films came to the table very very very late and that's why it lacked depth like the preexisting genre of Nigerian films led by the Hubert Ogunde et al.
I just corrected and educated you with love

You see the problem with Yoruba people in Nigeria. You keep mentioning Yoruba names and dramas as if to say life begins and ends in Lagos. Just as u guys were doing ur bits over there, the igbos were doing theirs too in eastern Nigeria and behold the igbos got the breakthrough first....
Let me even shock u the more, if bestsellers like "things fall apart" could come from the east as far back as then, what's made u think that there weren't other pioneers in other genres in eastern Nigeria. Abi is pa Hubert ogunde the first to act a play in the whole of Nigeria? Yoruba people and tribalism =5&6

freshdude99:

Cut the long story short bro, home video is not theatre stage play or opera. Why don't you guys just give credit to these young igbo guys that brought us these far with their ingenuity. I hate tribalism from Yoruba people

I wonder how many Nigerians have vhs tapes, video CDs or DVD discs of those baba sala, Herbert ogunde dramas he claim were commercial movies and beginning of nollywood?

Nollywood is not the same words as the pre-1990 Nigerian movie industry.

They are close but not really the same.

Businessideas:

This is not the beginning of nollywood,this ignorance has to stop.
This beautiful film at best is the beginning of the English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films coming several decades after the Baba Sala,Ade Love,Hubert Ogunde etc of Nollywood.
This is how history is being corrupted and centuries later people will be parading different history of the same country.O ga o.
Even Nollywood itself is older than Kenneth Okonkwo himself.

Yorubas and lies and rebellious spirit and turning the truth upside-down.

Tufia!

[color=#990000][/color]this movie make sense...too much of royal royal diz dayz..we don't even know who to call prince anymor ..

I wouldn't know where MIKE ORIHEDINMA comes in

luvinhubby:


Explain or shift.

You seriously lack manners. Quote me make Ayelala fire you. I don't wanna know your age. Your comment alone shows you are a complete ignorant fool. Like I said. Quote me make Ayelala fire u.

Businessideas:

You see.That is the problem with you young ones,lack of humility.
I just mentioned and listed films that are Nigerian films even with national popularity and you can easily and humbly read about them online.
There are films like Block busters like Aiye by Hubert Ogunde Group,Taxi Driver by Ade Love the father of the popular Afolayan brothers, Duro Ladipo group that were the awada kerikeri group, Baba Sala with that film he was shown committing suicide in a train track and so many other films of Nigerian actors and theater you may be too young to know and can easily read on.
Nollywood never started with living in bondage and it is pure ignorance to say that publicly.
The English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films came to the table very very very late and that's why it lacked depth like the preexisting genre of Nigerian films led by the Hubert Ogunde et al.
I just corrected and educated you with love

You Sir are very right. Good to know we still have intelligent people on this platform

Businessideas:

You see.That is the problem with you young ones,lack of humility.
I just mentioned and listed films that are Nigerian films even with national popularity and you can easily and humbly read about them online.
There are films like Block busters like Aiye by Hubert Ogunde Group,Taxi Driver by Ade Love the father of the popular Afolayan brothers, Duro Ladipo group that were the awada kerikeri group, Baba Sala with that film he was shown committing suicide in a train track and so many other films of Nigerian actors and theater you may be too young to know and can easily read on.
Nollywood never started with living in bondage and it is pure ignorance to say that publicly.
The English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films came to the table very very very late and that's why it lacked depth like the preexisting genre of Nigerian films led by the Hubert Ogunde et al.
I just corrected and educated you with love

Thank you sir. I know the flat heads will take everything to be tribalisim. But don't mind them sir. Only the cool ones living in the west have manners and sense. The core eastern ones lack a lot of things. Manners and sense included.

Customer80:
lol revisionist at work, note there is soap opera which is different from nollywood eg new masquerade. nollywood started with living in bondage

God!!! See foolishness at its peak.

Mentcee:


Yorubas and lies and rebellious spirit and turning the truth upside-down.

Tufia!

I am not Youruba, but it saddens me as a people to see a living creature like you rather choose ignorance over the truth , just because a tribal hatred . We live in a time where its difficult for anyone to lie to anyone. Why dont you just check wikipedia or something and verify first before being tribalistic.

Its people like you that are making me contemplate on relocating out of this country...

nnokwa042:
u don carry afonja wahala come here abi ogunde film no be for national theatre he dey show him own ,living bondage is the first Nigerian home video without it u won't know tonto dike INI Edo so u can go to hell with ur witch witch ogunde film

You be fool. Quote me make Ayelala featuring Amadioha fire your destiny there.
Read and learn new things... No o! you no go learn.

Mentcee:


Yorubas and lies and rebellious spirit and turning the truth upside-down.

Tufia!

Infact, all that the very intelligent fellow you quoted said , I never watched those movies, I was taught in fine art classes as a young secondary school student. So, I don't really blame you for not knowing , nor the ignorance; I blame our failed education system and the elderly people that should have taught you more, but instead inculcated tribalism into you.

luvinhubby:


Baba sala was more of a tv comedy series, chief Hubert Ogunde was more of stage drama, Ade love was produced for tvs mainly.
Living in bondage was done as a commercial project and distributed as a home movie, the commercialisation was the intro into the movie world in Nigeria.

You do not know me, so stop referring to me as 'young one'.

So to you now, Nollywood means home video. . You be professional fool i swear. Ayelala is on your case.

Ode oshi! Read this below.

Definition of which films are considered Nollywood has always been a subject of debate. Alex Eyengho defined Nollywood as "the totality of activities taking place in the Nigerian film industry, be it in English, Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Itsekiri, Edo, Efik, Ijaw, Urhobo or any other of the over 300 Nigerian languages". He further stated that "the historical trajectory of Nollywood started since the pre and post independent Nigeria, with the theatrical (stage) and cinematic (celluloid)) efforts of the likes of Chief Hubert Ogunde, Chief Amata, Baba Sala, Ade Love, Eddie Ugboma and a few others"

muchroom:
Living in Bondage "started" Nollywood? I bet to differ unless Kenneth's definition of Nollywood is Igbo film. Decades before living in bondage, thousands filled Nigerian theaters to watch movies like Orun mu oru(There is heat in Heaven), Mosebolatan(I though wealth was finished),Taxi Driver and more.

See this mumu too. Living in Bondage started Nollywood to you too.
Ode! When you won't try to learn about history of everything around you, how will you not come here to disgrace yourself.
You wanna quote me shey. Oya now. Quote me make Ayelala featuring Amadioha fall on you.
This movie in question was produced 1991. Nollywood is far older than that. Use your brain. It's not a mere design God just put inside your skull. It is meant to be used. So to you and your other foolish kinsmen, VHS started Nollywood. Mumuness of the highest order.

Businessideas:

This is not the beginning of nollywood,this ignorance has to stop.
This beautiful film at best is the beginning of the English-Igbo genre of Nigerian films coming several decades after the Baba Sala,Ade Love,Hubert Ogunde etc of Nollywood.
This is how history is being corrupted and centuries later people will be parading different history of the same country.O ga o.
Even Nollywood itself is older than Kenneth Okonkwo himself.

SERIOUSLY!

SOME GULLIBLES STILL BELIEVE NIGERIAN CINEMA STARTED IN 1992.

yIGBO EMPTY CHESTBEATING AND SELF INFLATED EGO IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON PEOPLE!

lordyugo:


Am nt really sure u understand the term HOME MOVIE

So Home Video is Nollywood? What happened to the others. What are they called? Theaterwood or serieswood abi?

ELKHALIFAISIS:
we don't know those ones u mentioned now... nollywood is igbo creation , yorubas are still playing supporting roles go back to ijebu

Now you just displayed your real self. A fool looking for others to make fools. Let me pray for you blooda. Sense fall on you like an Afghanistan RPG. Amen.
You can go now. You are free

steppins:

You can beg and differ all you like, Living in Bondage brought Nollywood to the World's Map.
If you like name movies made before Nigeria got her independence, Living in Bondage is still the pacesetter.
Cry if E pain you.

Chai. Godduuu!!! Ehhhh!!! See human being as he mumu. Person old like this but still mumu pass in future mumuness.
A swear you be fool. Make he cry if he pain am abi. Sense far from you blooda. That you have a flat head does not mean you have a flat sense naa.

freshdude99:

You see the problem with Yoruba people in Nigeria. You keep mentioning Yoruba names and dramas as if to say life begins and ends in Lagos. Just as u guys were doing ur bits over there, the igbos were doing theirs too in eastern Nigeria and behold the igbos got the breakthrough first....
Let me even shock u the more, if bestsellers like "things fall apart" could come from the east as far back as then, what's made u think that there weren't other pioneers in other genres in eastern Nigeria. Abi is pa Hubert ogunde the first to act a play in the whole of Nigeria? Yoruba people and tribalism =5&6

When yoruba bursted your empty chestbeating with facts and figures they become tribalists.Why cant you just google "hebert ogunde" or "Nigerian films history"!.


lolz,by the way,things fall apart come from the west,chinua achebe wrote the novel in the brown roof city of ibadan!



And before him,GO fagunwa has written a novel!

Back then when all Nigerian movies had little or no censorship, it was more about witches, wizards and ritualists.