exactly

Petrobros:


You cannot be talking about federal character in the national team setting.

Let the best get the nod. Of they are from a particular section of a country so be it.

Joebie:
that's exactly my point. As an SS you should score even more goals.. Simon played a few times as a midfielder.

For me Moses Simon has an edge because of Europa League and past decent performances in the SE.. Basing it on Jupiler League alone, Onyekuru has a better stat.

Modified

Maybe I need to break that table down, if you are not getting the whole gist.
MOSES SIMON
In the Jupiler League alone:

14 times as an SS --> 3 goals, 3 assists
2 times as a LW --> 0 goals, 1 assist
2 times as a CF --> 0 goals, 0 assist

ONYEKURU
In the Jupiler League alone:

34 as LW --> 19 goals, 8 assists
3 as CF --> 1 goal, 2 assists
3 as RW --> 3 goals
1 as SS --> 1 goal

I think we totally agree on this. last season Moses Simon didn't really light up the Europa league but just like you and Icon4s said, there are a lot more that will be considered first.

all that aside, I really want to understand why Moses Simon still plays as a winger for us. he literally played the whole season as the SS probably because Samuel Kalu benched him, why then is he a starter for the SE when we have tons of players who can play that position well enough?

forgiveness:


The truth is you don't know the cause of the debate. EOD

If I do not have moral justification to express my thought about a public officer as enshrined in the Constitution of the federal Republic of Nigeria then who has?

I have told you plain and clear that, if Rohr and his cronies continues to ignore good players doing well in Europe, I will point it out. GBAM!

Today there was an agitation in Aba, why? Some people want to maintain the magogo way hence the ventilation of anger and agitation springing up left right and center.

Do not assume I feel aggrieved some section of the country is not having a fair share due to their inability or lack of talent but I feel aggrieved that such act can never propell our nation team to the greatest height.

This is simply my worries and I will do anything in my little way through this mighty forum to propagate my course. Shikena!

We are all here on the same purpose. IE to point to Rohr about players doing well in Europe but nobody cries of sectionalism here as much as you do. That is the difference.

Just in: Aaron Samuel called in to replace injured Alex Iwobi. Uche Agbo also invited.

komekn:


Easier to get is an assumption not a fact, the fact that Tega isn't saying much doesn't mean he is not considering Nigeria.

I see Tega as a poacher too, but he brings more to the table and he is improving game by game.

Dresser seems to be on an upward spiral and only time will tell. However, it's not in dispute that the EPL is a considerably more superior league.

Dresser could also do a U turn if Belgium come calling for him.

dessers still feels easier to get so long as belgium hasnt capped him....
Also is it desser or dresser?

Mickael2:


I think we totally agree on this. last season Moses Simon didn't really light up the Europa league but just like you and Icon4s said, there are a lot more that will be considered first.

all that aside, I really want to understand why Moses Simon still plays as a winger for us. he literally played the whole season as the SS probably because Samuel Kalu benched him, why then is he a starter for the SE when we have tons of players who can play that position well enough?

I wouldn't say Simon is a starter in the Super Eagles. Iwobi and Moses are our first choice. Simon gets to start when one of the two is missing out. Like with Iwobi out now Simon is likely to start.

Simon I think has done enough in the past with the national team to deserve another invitation.

Nigerdeltaboi:
Just in: Aaron Samuel called in to replace injured Alex Iwobi. Uche Agbo also invited.

Old news.

But thanks all the same.

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Petrobros:


We are all here on the same purpose. IE to point to Rohr about players doing well in Europe but nobody cries of sectionalism here as much as you do. That is the difference.

That is why I am different. An hypocrite heap up wrath in heart, they cry not when they are binded says my holy Bible hence my cry.

pyrex23:

dessers still feels easier to get so long as belgium hasnt capped him....
Also is it desser or dresser?

Dessers

Icon4s:

Old news.
But thanks all the same.

yeah boss

tglobal:


@forgiveness, always blowing things out of proportion to support your narrative.

First of all, Amokachi's claim was that people paid cash to play. That is not nepotism.

On "chance and opportunity happening to those in the National team", there is no occupation or nation in the world where this is not the case. Even in the corporate world in the most advanced countries, opportunity will have to be seized and not necessarily by the best people. The question to ask is "are they are good enough"?. David villa has been invited back to the Spanish national team. Are there no better strikers in the whole of spain? is that also Nepotism? Mutiu Adepoju made the 2002 world cup team list. What did he do to merit that place? It suits you to always highlight the isolated negatives to justify your view point. What you end up doing is poisoning people's minds. You are doing more to stoke the fire of tribalism than those you are accusing

People paid cash na still corruption.

How? I am only stating the obvious. This is a critical time to dialogue and not die in pretence as if all is well.

You have just bustressed my point that chance and only chance happens to all.

Resume my sabbatical vacation.

Petrobros:


You cannot be talking about federal character in the national team setting.

Let the best get the nod. Of they are from a particular section of a country so be it.

Not only in football. Nigeria will be great if we reward excellence and always go with our first eleven in critical sectors of the economy.
I'm not a fan of turn by turn politics as we have it presently.

goldfish80:

Not only in football. Nigeria will be great if we reward excellence and always go with our first eleven in critical sectors of the economy.
I'm not a fan of turn by turn politics as we have it presently.

azzin, that turn by turn politics has ruined us...my own pain sef is that they don't do it well

Imagine allowing parties to just zone however they please, since we have decided that zoning works best, why can't INEC mandate all parties to zone to a particular geographical zone each election? Then, let me see how some people will only vote in their people.

This country tire me ehn, can't wait to just get out of it

Exclusive – FC Porto Snap Up Talented Nigerian Duo Kingsley Kuku & Isah Musa
August 27, 201701

The Nigerian contingent at FC Porto has swelled by two following the signing of two more Nigerians in Kingsley Kuku and Isah Musa, Owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively reveal.

They are presently awaiting their visa at the Portuguese embassy in Abuja before they join the club to bring to five the Nigerian players on their books.

Chidozie Awaziem, Musa Yahaya and Chidera‎ Ezeh are the other Nigerians at the club, but only Yahaya is with the team where he is presently playing for the B team.

Kuku is a left footed forward who was cited by the club alongside Musa who is a pacy right wing back but can also play as a winger due to his fine ball playing abilities.

They were both picked up by scouts of the team during the annual Geelec scouting tournament in Keffi, Nasarawa State Nigeria earlier this year.



Daniel Martins

--OwnGoalNigeria

So u want to go and leave us ehn.

safarigirl:
azzin, that turn by turn politics has ruined us...my own pain sef is that they don't do it well

Imagine allowing parties to just zone however they please, since we have decided that zoning works best, why can't INEC mandate all parties to zone to a particular geographical zone each election? Then, let me see how some people will only vote in their people.

This country tire me ehn, can't wait to just get out of it

Joebie:
Exclusive – FC Porto Snap Up Talented Nigerian Duo Kingsley Kuku & Isah Musa
August 27, 201701

The Nigerian contingent at FC Porto has swelled by two following the signing of two more Nigerians in Kingsley Kuku and Isah Musa, Owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively reveal.

They are presently awaiting their visa at the Portuguese embassy in Abuja before they join the club to bring to five the Nigerian players on their books.

Chidozie Awaziem, Musa Yahaya and Chidera‎ Ezeh are the other Nigerians at the club, but only Yahaya is with the team where he is presently playing for the B team.

Kuku is a left footed forward who was cited by the club alongside Musa who is a pacy right wing back but can also play as a winger due to his fine ball playing abilities.

They were both picked up by scouts of the team during the annual Geelec scouting tournament in Keffi, Nasarawa State Nigeria earlier this year.



Daniel Martins

--OwnGoalNigeria

someone should please tell these young lads....that they need to seriously work hard...put in extra effort..
go extra mile to engage in individual personal training if they must make the mark.....

coming from Nigeria academy to break into a team like fc Porto...requires nothin but hardwork

Victor Moses Confirms His Availability For World Cup Qualifiers Against Cameroon
Published: August 28, 2017
Chelsea right wing-back Victor Moses has confirmed his availability for Nigeria's crucial World Cup qualifiers against Cameroon early next month.
Shortly after helping the Blues win their second straight game in the Premier League, the Super Eagle took to social media to announce that he will soon join the national team at their get-together in Abuja.
Moses, a former England U17 international, has not featured for the Super Eagles in 2017, having pulled out of the international friendly versus Senegal in March and June's AFCON qualifier against South Africa owing to injury.
The Chelsea number 15 posted on Instagram : ''Off to join up with Nigeria for international duty after a massive 3 points today! #CFC ��''.
Since Moses made his debut for the national team, he has played in World Cup qualifiers against Namibia, Malawi (2), Kenya, Ethiopia (2) and Algeria.
Ifeanyi Emmanuel
source : ANS

Liverpool mayweathered Arsenal last weekend

As time passes.. VicMo is growing more as a defender than an attacker.. Both in instinct and play
SMH

Icon4s:
For all the numerous mentions I have received here today. Guess what? I didn't read any cos I don't care.

I don't know how someone will bring me into an argument I was not involved in.

I will continue to analyze my football the way I have always done.

Not so fast.

@bolded suggest otherwise looking at your past comments.

You were busy looking out for who is from one particular section of the country. Abi dat one too na Football analyses?

Initially, they said I am PRO-YORUBA but when facts began to stair dem 4 faces dat I have defended players from all sections of the country, they coined 'na Igbo hater' smh!

Where dem see me mention Igbo for this thread, even in politics section, I avoid addressing people by tribe. In short, I coined the word Westerner, Easterner etc on this forum.

Record is there for all to see... Heee! Some has been deleted due to the attack on Nairaland.

I go show snapshot of all the parts of the country I have died for here and no one should change mouth when dem see the people dem suppose I hate.

One even said I stopped talking about Ebuehi because of Aina when it's dam obvious that I have not been active on this thread for months.

Is Aina even eligible to play for Nigeria? No

Then, how can I talk about one who is not cleared by FIFA for a crucial match against Cameroon?

Some people mind shallow, Walahi!

Below is the snapshot of the genesis of name or tribe checker. Guess who?

Joseph and I had a heated argument about who is better between Solanke and Iheanacho.

My opinion then and even till date is that Solanke is a better player than Kelechi.

Remember, Solanke never win U20 World player of the Tournament ooooooo but I still knew he was that good.

Behold, Solanke is benching experienced and more expensive players than himself at LIVERPOOL.... I no go talk further....

You all know the rest.

But Icon4s, with his google of tribalism started pointing to tribalism when there was nothing of such.

Abi na Tribalism carry Solanke reach where em dey.

People who cry tribalism are weak minded souls looking for the easiest way to shun and shut down a reasonable and constructive argument.

We must Beat Super Eagles –
Christian Bassongog

Cameroon danger man, Christian
Bassongog, has sent a note of warning to
the Super Eagles, ahead of the double
header Russia 2018 FIFA World cup
qualifying matches against the
Indomitable Lions of Cameroon, which
begins on September 1 in Uyo.
The youthful Chinese Super League player,
who was voted the Most Valuable Players
player at the last AFCON has told
FIFA.com that the Cameroonians are
seeing the match against Nigeria as a
must win, if they must remain in
contention for the group ticket
.According to information gathered from
FIFA, Bassogog is “arguably the fastest
player in the entire Indomitable Lions
squad”, and he believes that the AFCON
win and the FIFA Confederation cup may
have prepared him specially for the great
task, insisting that the game against the
Super Eagles is one that the African
champions must win.
“Nigeria are a strong team,” he told
FIFA.com. “They have very good players
and many of them are playing in Europe.
But we must defeat them if we are to
maintain our qualifying hopes. We should
take the game to them. We need to fight
to defeat them.
“Our players are young, but we are strong
as a team,” he said of Cameroon’s
progress under Belgian coach Hugo Broos.
“He is a good coach. He knows what the
players are good at so he can get the
best out of us. In this team, everyone has
his chance.”
“These are matches I want to win,” he
said. “We are not in an ideal position but
these are qualifying games for the World
Cup. I will do my utmost to help our
team”.
http://www.thebreakingtimes.com/we-must-beat-super-eagles-christian-bassongog/

This thread is getting nasty day by day I see no reason why anyone should support any player based on tribal sentiments. Have we all forgotten the purpose of this thread is it not to support SE with our ideas and knowledge to ensure they are a better team.
But now I see every body picking fights and arguing over some certain players. if the player you want is not invited you are not the coach Rohr knows the kind of players he needs for every game that's why he called up those he invited. Have seen several occasions where players who were clamoured for in this thread are later invited. Am pleading with you all to exercise patience.
Please any post that does not positively contribute to the development of the SE should be removed. Tribalism and sentiments should not be allowed. No player should be favoured here. Arguments should not be based on sentiments,tribalism, or favouritism. Constructive criticism should be allowed but that does not mean we should fight or argue over any player or coach.
Furthermore, I honestly think that Cameroon is overrated on this thread. You talk of Cameroon as if you are talking about Germany. I believe we would easily secure a win in uyo then maybe secure a draw away. Because looking it their team they don't have better players than we do I don't think any of their wingers is as skilful as Victor Moses or as pacy as Ahmed musa. We have better midfielders like Mikel obi,Ndidi and Etebo. The likes of Leon balogun,troost ekong,John ogu, and others can match them in physicality so I see no cause for alarm Victory all the way.

No more sentiments plsss.........

Lets all talk about Friday...lets talk about possible formations, SE camp news, relish old SE moments....

All these derailing don DOOOOOOOOOOOO..

Abeg una ooo.

Cameroon Coach : Ex-Barcelona GK Rejected
The Chance To Play Against Nigeria

One of
the
surprise names omitted from the
Indomitable Lions squad that is set to
travel to Nigeria for a World Cup qualifier
against Nigeria this week is Ajax
Amsterdam goalkeeper André Onana.
Cameroon manager Hugo Broos had to
explain that he did not call up the former
Barcelona youth-teamer because he
refused to play for his country.
''I had an interview with André, he said that
he no longer wants to be selected with the
national team. He wants to concentrate on
his club,'' Broos told reporters, according
to camfoot.com.
''Honestly, I have a little doubt. I think the
reason is elsewhere. I am really surprised
at his decision'' .
Onana's cousin, Sevilla Atletico netminder
Fabrice Ondoa, has been included in the
squad list.
http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=24385

cromz:
This thread is getting nasty day by day I see no reason why anyone should support any player based on tribal sentiments. Have we all forgotten the purpose of this thread is it not to support SE with our ideas and knowledge to ensure they are a better team.
But now I see every body picking fights and arguing over some certain players. if the player you want is not invited you are not the coach Rohr knows the kind of players he needs for every game that's why he called up those he invited. Have seen several occasions where players who were clamoured for in this thread are later invited. Am pleading with you all to exercise patience.
Please any post that does not positively contribute to the development of the SE should be removed. Tribalism and sentiments should not be allowed. No player should be favoured here. Arguments should not be based on sentiments,tribalism, or favouritism. Constructive criticism should be allowed but that does not mean we should fight or argue over any player or coach.
Furthermore, I honestly think that Cameroon is overrated on this thread. You talk of Cameroon as if you are talking about Germany. I believe we would easily secure a win in uyo then maybe secure a draw away. Because looking it their team they don't have better players than we do I don't think any of their wingers is as skilful as Victor Moses or as pacy as Ahmed musa. We have better midfielders like Mikel obi,Ndidi and Etebo. The likes of Leon balogun,troost ekong,John ogu, and others can match them in physicality so I see no cause for alarm Victory all the way.

exactly
no doubt that the Cameroon national team is very good but we rate them a lot here
well overconfidence is not good that shouldn't create a room for us to see them as a mountain
ppl in this thread av been emphasising on physicality
is this the first time we will be playing against physical African teams??
at least we played against Zambia and won them on their own soil
even the Kenyans that are strong and athletic we beat them a number of times
am not trying to downgrade the Cameroonians cos I really respect them and know their quality in fact I rate them higher than the Algerians

forgiveness:



Not so fast.

@bolded suggest otherwise looking at your past comments.

You were busy looking out for who is from one particular section of the country. Abi dat one too na Football analyses?

Initially, they said I am PRO-YORUBA but when facts began to stair dem 4 faces dat I have defended players from all sections of the country, they coined 'na Igbo hater' smh!

Where dem see me mention Igbo for this thread, even in politics section, I avoid addressing people by tribe. In short, I coined the word Westerner, Easterner etc on this forum.

Record is there for all to see... Heee! Some has been deleted due to the attack on Nairaland.

I go show snapshot of all the parts of the country I have died for here and no one should change mouth when dem see the people dem suppose I hate.

One even said I stopped talking about Ebuehi because of Aina when it's dam obvious that I have not been active on this thread for months.

Is Aina even eligible to play for Nigeria? No

Then, how can I talk about one who is not cleared by FIFA for a crucial match against Cameroon?

Some people mind shallow, Walahi!

Below is the snapshot of the genesis of name or tribe checker. Guess who?

Joseph and I had a heated argument about who is better between Solanke and Iheanacho.

My opinion then and even till date is that Solanke is a better player than Kelechi.

Remember, Solanke never win U20 World player of the Tournament ooooooo but I still knew he was that good.

Behold, Solanke is benching experienced and more expensive players than himself at LIVERPOOL.... I no go talk further....

You all know the rest.

But Icon4s, with his google of tribalism started pointing to tribalism when there was nothing of such.

Abi na Tribalism carry Solanke reach where em dey.

People who cry tribalism are weak minded souls looking for the easiest way to shun and shut down a reasonable and constructive argument.

Mr. man you no get chill at all...most of us here understood the point you ve been making...Now can we move on,?.
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.
.4 days to go and few of us are stil in this TRIBALISM issue...i tire !!!

Will be watching it live very thankful it's on BT sport.

It's futile getting into certain arguments with people who already have pre- conceived notions.

Sometimes silence is a better answer.

Admittedly I can understand Forgiveness rational for his responses to the allegations made against him.

I think any reasonable person can sift through things to know what is credible or nor or just down right bad belle.

I was perplexed by someone who condems all things said from a foreign perspective then saying can't wait to leave the country. What a hypocritical U turn.

Elders,...This is the the latest line up i would like to see come friday. . .....................Akeyi . .shehu.......balogun....ekong....echiechile . .................. ....onazi . ... ..... ..... ....... .....mikel . . musa.... .... ..iheanacho.... .......v.moses . ....... ..... ..... ...ighalo
. . .what do u thinkk??

bossto:
Elders,...This is the the latest line up i would like to see come friday.
.
.....................Akeyi
.
.shehu.......balogun....ekong....echiechile
.
.................. ....onazi
.
... ..... ..... ....... .....mikel
.
.
musa.... .... ..iheanacho.... .......v.moses
.
....... ..... ..... ...ighalo

.
.
.what do u thinkk??

Pls can u explain why u pick Onazi over Ndidi,Musa over Etebo and starting Akpeyi.