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| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by 0temAtum: 7:53am On Aug 31, 2017 |
This one is small. See how deeperlifer destroyed the wedding of Sewa. The woman was overzealous and by the encouragement of her church members, she went and destroyed the TV set(devil box) of her husband and all these happened. DOCTUFOS: Doctufos: Jasheb 14:17-54 |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 7:57am On Aug 31, 2017 |
PastorAIO:The OP said: A Heart rending narration of How Religion NOT how a religion wrecked havoc on on his family. The OP was generalizing: Religion is the culprit and I say, immaturity is the culprit. Interestingly, I know of a Deeper Life Woman married to an Atheist. Last year, their son got married to his fiance Religion kills! Is a blanket statement like: Gun Kills Vehicle Kills Water Drowns Modified: Religion doesn't give life either. A relationship with God through Love does |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by PastorAIO: 7:57am On Aug 31, 2017 |
bullet Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience. George Barna, president and founder of Barna Research Group, commented: "While it may be alarming to discover that born again Christians are more likely than others to experience a divorce, that pattern has been in place for quite some time. Even more disturbing, perhaps, is that when those individuals experience a divorce many of them feel their community of faith provides rejection rather than support and healing. But the research also raises questions regarding the effectiveness of how churches minister to families. The ultimate responsibility for a marriage belongs to the husband and wife, but the high incidence of divorce within the Christian community challenges the idea that churches provide truly practical and life-changing support for marriages." http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm shadeyinka: |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by PastorAIO: 8:05am On Aug 31, 2017 |
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| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 8:24am On Aug 31, 2017 |
PastorAIO:I do not believe your source. What is the definition of conservative Christians? Divorce rate is about highest among Americans in the world: if we are using Americans as examples of conservative Christians, we are mistaken. Your Source I don't know who copied who)What Faith Divorces Most? https://www.wevorce.com/blog/what-faith-divorces-most/ Actually generalizes that at least 30% of all marriages end in divorce. You know that that isn't truthful. It cast doubt over the whole statistics. It may be true among their working sample group, but certainly not general. The Article: http://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2014/february/marriage-divorce-and-body-of-christ-what-do-stats-say-and-c.html Says otherwise even for the same group in question. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 8:26am On Aug 31, 2017 |
[quote author=PastorAIO post=59989572][/quote]I modified my original post before seeing this. Check |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by Nobody: 8:31am On Aug 31, 2017 |
JackBizzle:Salaam alekum ...I believe that my warning about your bad mouthing of prophet Muhammad has been duly taken note of. Don't waste the resources expended on your training and hopes in you as a result of untimely demise. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by PastorAIO: 8:43am On Aug 31, 2017 |
shadeyinka:It is the same Barna Research Group that is quoted in both websites so it doesn't matter who copied who, or even if there had to be any copying. They could both have sourced the research independently. Out of curiosity, why do you not believe the website I quoted from while you obviously believe Christianitytoday.com What compelling evidence did one provide that the other didn't. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 9:12am On Aug 31, 2017 |
PastorAIO:My quote was just to make you see that other views exist on the internet. And your claim may not entirely be absolute. An average of 30% is too high at least in Nigeria context. It means 3 out of 10 marriages you know have crashed. It means that while in school, more than 60% of the friends you have come from broken homes. Interestingly, there seems to be about the same average amongst all religious or irreligious groups. Showning that religion is NOT the problem but probably, the culture of a people group. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by PastorAIO: 9:34am On Aug 31, 2017 |
Ah, okay, so you are going mainly by anecdotal evidence based in what you see around you in Nigeria. The surveys were done in the US I believe. And of course only a sample of the population would have been surveyed. This leaves plenty of room to deny, you can say it was the state the survey was done in but not true across the whole us of a. However your protests sound like the No True Scotsman fallacy. And not only you but the website you quoted Not everyone professing membership in an evangelical church is necessarily a person born again. You would have to determine if they were born again. Many people ot everyone professing membership in an evangelical church is necessarily a person born again. You would have to determine if they were born again. Many people are members of a church but are not born again. This issue is conversion not This is what makes me suspicious of your website, the fact that it would resort to such a logical fallacy. This leads me to believe that their motive is to defend bornagainism against the facts by any means necessary. Now there is something else that was not factored into the surveys and that is that .. In the western world there are many many non religious couples that live together and raise a family together without getting married. If we were to treat such couples as married then the number of healthy stable atheist 'marriages' would far outstrip that if evangelicals. shadeyinka: |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 9:54am On Aug 31, 2017 |
PastorAIO:Putting sentiments as side, even if we are to go with the religious affiliation ststistics of 28%, 30%, 33% and 29% among various religious and irreligious groups, the difference is NOT significant. This means that religion isn't the issue but a "cultural" orientation of people and off course maturity. Japanese, Indian and Chinese people seem to have very stable marriages due to cultural influences. Americans and Europeans have bad reputation when it comes to marriage. In my church (of 16years), 400 adult population, I know of 2 divorces & 2 separations. Do they all have perfect marriages? Certainly NOT! So, you can expect my stance when someone overgeneralized. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by JackBizzle: 11:41am On Aug 31, 2017 |
shadeyinka:There is a study to back the assertion. In america, it was found that christians had higher divorce rates than other religions. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 11:51am On Aug 31, 2017 |
JackBizzle:You probably didn't read the earlier posts. Its been thrashed out |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by JackBizzle: 12:32pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
shadeyinka:Thrashed out? Did you prove the study wrong? ![]() |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 12:50pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
JackBizzle:I casted doubt over its generic nature. You didn't prove the study right either, did you? |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by JackBizzle: 12:53pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
shadeyinka:Prove the study right ![]() ??Nigga, you well so? Did you think before you wrote that? |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 1:03pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
JackBizzle:Check what you wrote! JackBizzle: |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by JackBizzle: 1:16pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
shadeyinka:I see that you are lacking some sense. A research was done on divorce rates. You disagreed with it. I asked you if you proved it wrong. You are now asking if i have proved it right? You well so? |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 1:18pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
JackBizzle:I can see that you are well cultured! |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by JackBizzle: 1:34pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
shadeyinka:Very well cultured. I could have told you that you were not being honest or smart in so many interesti ng/vulgars ways. Stop trying to dodge. Admit it, christianity can ruin families |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by shadeyinka(m): 1:41pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
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| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by Hairyrapunzel: 4:31pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
Religion is a trap and a dishonest scheme for obtaining money. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by 0temAtum: 6:39pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel:Observation of Rastus 8: 1-14 1. I have observed and known how a homo can make much wealth without much work. This is better done in the ways of religion. 2. Go now to the temples of the religious people and you shall see how they sell cheap things at costly prices. 3. In the temple of the Jews do they sell a holy dove for eighty shekels of silver. And a fold of shittim wood do they sell for two hundred shekels of silver. 4. And a curtain of linen do they sell for fifty-two shekel of silver, whose worth in the market is only twelve shekels. 5. But they have called it the holy curtain because they sell it in the temple. And the holiest among the holy curtains do they sell for a thousand shekel of silver. And these are bought only by the rich, who used them for their secret chambers, believing that they cannot be attacked by thieves whenever they are behind the curtains. 6. And a bottle of olive oil is sold for seventy shekels in the temple, saying that it is holy and anointed by God. 7. And the priests[pastors] grow fat upon the money of the poor. As they do in the temple of Furin and Dian, so also do they in the temple of the Jews. 8. In the church of the Krishtens also, they do so. For they buy and sell holy shadows of the apostles, deceiving themselves upon nothing . 9. And when they have deceived themselves, testifying of how they are cured of diseases which they have not been cured of, they come after the physicians, confessing their follies. 10. But the damages are already done, because many have believed in them already and have also neglected the ways of herbs for cure. 11. And they shall be worse before they shall think to go the way of the physicians. 12. Now this is my instruction to all in this generation and the generation to come; let not religion be mixed with health issues. 13. For when you are sick, go after the physicians immediately, rather than asking a god to cure you of your sickness. 14. Or else it shall be too late for you to be cured. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by richardbrandy: 6:58pm On Aug 31, 2017 |
omaolowo:i send youu love and light |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by JackBizzle: 12:43pm On Sep 03, 2017 |
angels09:So, you are a paddie of ishilove? Did she send you? Christian acting as muslim. Shameless. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by madridguy(m): 11:48am On Oct 27, 2017 |
So deep. |
| Re: A Heart-rending Narrative On How Religion Destroyed 'an Ideal Family' by OkaiCorne(m): 6:39pm On Oct 27, 2017 |
omaolowo:Dear OP...take heart. What is practised as Christianity by these so called sects especially in Africa is a partial truth, and the worst form of lie is a partial truth. It is better to seek the TRUTH through the Master of the Universe so that you might be free, and also free others from the shackles of religion. Come and see the hypocrisy and deceit of religion exposed here: https://www.nairaland.com/4133300/gospel-truth May the Uncreated One make our path straight... |
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