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Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Demmzy15(m): 12:36am On Sep 03, 2017

asuustrike2009:
It's a mystery that you can't comprehend and understand. It take holy spirit himself to reveal deeper things but it's for matured Christians. So am not surprised at your response

So then why do you then preach if what you preach is a mystery? I hope you know the meaning of that word, I've noticed that whenever Christians are "stucked", y'all begin rhetorics about the topic being a mystery or you need the holy spirit to understand. This is very dishonest!!!

Concerning Paul , I need you to pick up your bible and see the contradiction in his conversion story. If only y'all truly got inspired by the Holy Spirit, you should have noticed how Paul tried to change the gospel of Jesus which the true disciples and men who walked with Jesus held unto. I need you to research on this topic, I hope and wish you do that.

I pray you become a Muslim someday!

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Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by iamgenius(m): 12:41am On Sep 03, 2017

asuustrike2009:
It's a mystery that you can't comprehend and understand. It take holy spirit himself to reveal deeper things but it's for matured Christians. So am not surprised at your response

A mystery indeed. Even you dont understand how Jesus keep changing like that. Lets just believe the story as we were told. We dont need to understand. Confused Paul followers

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Nobody: 12:45am On Sep 03, 2017

Demmzy15:
So then why do you then preach if what you preach is a mystery? I hope you know the meaning of that word, I've noticed that whenever Christians are "stucked", y'all begin rhetorics about the topic being a mystery or you need the holy spirit to understand. This is very dishonest!!!

Concerning Paul , I need you to pick up your bible and see the contradiction in his conversion story. If only y'all truly got inspired by the Holy Spirit, you should have noticed how Paul tried to change the gospel of Jesus which the true disciples and men who walked with Jesus held unto. I need you to research on this topic, I hope and wish you do that.

I pray you become a Muslim someday!

I can't be unequally yoke with an unbeliever. I have seen the light,experienced Jesus, speak with him one or one,feel his presence.I don't need to follow a routine of praying constantly 5 times daily facing a location. I can't join a religion that don't believe in Jesus but call him prophet. A religion that copies the Bible but don't see the Bible copying it. I rather remain an idol worshipper than switch over which I know isn't possible. You better still ask those Muslim converts the experience with Jesus himself without anyone preaching to them. We have many of them worldwide.Those stubborn ones that Jesus himself arrested on their way to execute destruction.

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Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Nobody: 12:51am On Sep 03, 2017

iamgenius:
A mystery indeed. Even you dont understand how Jesus keep changing like that. Lets just believe the story as we were told. We dont need to understand. Confused Paul followers

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty. That's the more reason you can't comprehend things from the Bible because you study it like literature. It's the holy spirit that teaches one the Bible not by your mere understanding.We're not Followers of Paul but Yeshua. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;.
Jesus is the only founder of Christianity that died and resurrected on the third day. No founder has being able to do till date,those who did died instantly.

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Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by iamgenius(m): 1:02am On Sep 03, 2017

asuustrike2009:
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty. That's the more reason you can't comprehend things from the Bible because you study it like literature. It's the holy spirit that teaches one the Bible not by your mere understanding.We're not Followers of Paul but Yeshua. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;.
Jesus is the only founder of Christianity that died and resurrected on the third day. No founder has being able to do till date,those who did died instantly.

Jesus is the founder of Christianity?Are you saying Jesus is also a Christian? Bring your proof from Jesus's mouth.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Nobody: 1:39am On Sep 03, 2017

iamgenius:
Jesus is the founder of Christianity?Are you saying Jesus is also a Christian? Bring your proof from Jesus's mouth.

Abeg non increase my laughter this night abeg.
Jesus was a Jew and he practiced Judaism while on earth in Israel. Christainity has more link to Judaism because its from it it sprangforth.Christianity started after Jesus gave his disciples the task to preach to all nations of the earth.
Matthew 28:16-20"16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Haven't given the task,on his Ascension to heaven he told his disciples that he will send the comforter which is the holy spirit. The spirit of God himself that will dwell upon them.
In their cause of preaching the disciples were called Christians? "And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Act 11:26).
That's why references are still being made to Jesus after his departure. Jesus himself handed over the church leadership to Peter. You see that in Matthew 16:18 "
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome" NIV. Christ is the head of the church
"New Living Translation of Col 1:18
"Christ is also the head of the church, which is his body. He is the beginning, supreme over all who rise from the dead. So he is first in everything"

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Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by KingGBsky(op): 9:20am On Sep 03, 2017

iamgenius:
A mystery indeed. Even you dont understand how Jesus keep changing like that. Lets just believe the story as we were told. We dont need to understand. Confused Paul followers

What should I call you?
An atheist or a FOOL?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by 701ecilana: 12:27pm On Sep 03, 2017

KingGBsky:
Hmmmm.
May God save us all.

His Salvation is complete. On the Cross, he said, it is finished, Concluded. Satan lost, for He has over come the world for us.
His Grace is sufficient brethren. Hold on tightly, Satan is interested in your soul. Guide it jealously, if you lose it, you've lost all.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Demmzy15(m): 5:50pm On Sep 03, 2017

asuustrike2009:
I can't be unequally yoke with an unbeliever. I have seen the light,experienced Jesus, speak with him one or one,feel his presence.I don't need to follow a routine of praying constantly 5 times daily facing a location. I can't join a religion that don't believe in Jesus but call him prophet. A religion that copies the Bible but don't see the Bible copying it. I rather remain an idol worshipper than switch over which I know isn't possible. You better still ask those Muslim converts the experience with Jesus himself without anyone preaching to them. We have many of them worldwide.Those stubborn ones that Jesus himself arrested on their way to execute destruction.

Very assertion I must say!

-Jesus being a Prophet was propagated by Muslims, but by the early Jewish Christians.

-Islam never copied from the Bible, if that's the case please prove it to us.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by alBHAGDADI: 7:37pm On Sep 03, 2017

Demmzy15:
Very assertion I must say!

-Jesus being a Prophet was propagated by Muslims, but by the early Jewish Christians.

-Islam never copied from the Bible, if that's the case please prove it to us.

Islam did copy the Bible. It copied all the prophets of the Bible, tried to tell its own story of Jesus, claimed Abraham etc. The worst part is that it says it is the true religion when all it does is steal stories from the Bible that existed 700years before it.

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Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Demmzy15(m): 8:44pm On Sep 03, 2017

alBHAGDADI:
Islam did copy the Bible. It copied all the prophets of the Bible, tried to tell its own story of Jesus, claimed Abraham etc. The worst part is that it says it is the true religion when all it does is steal stories from the Bible that existed 700years before it.

Give us proofs you're pouncing all around. The above Prophets are respected in Islam because they were all Muslims, in fact you are liable to be punished in a Islamic State if curse or abuse them.

The book you call Bible was concocted during the Reformation that took place in the 16th century.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by alBHAGDADI: 8:58pm On Sep 03, 2017

Demmzy15:
Give us proofs you're pouncing all around. The above Prophets are respected in Islam because they were all Muslims, in fact you are liable to be punished in a Islamic State if curse or abuse them.

The book you call Bible was concocted during the Reformation that took place in the 16th century.

You just affirmed my stance. Islam is a thief and a liar like its father the devil who is the father of lies.

First, Islam claims all the prophets of the Bible as theirs then went on to say they were all MUSLIMS. but we know that is a blatant LIE.

If all the biblical prophets were Muslims, how come the Quran stated in many verses that Mohammad was the FIRST MUSLIM? grin

Say: Shall I choose for a protecting friend other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who feedeth and is never fed? Say: I am ordered to be the first to surrender [ aslama ] (unto Him) . And be not thou (O Muhammad) of the idolaters. S. 6:14 Pickthall

Say, verily my Lord hath directed me into a right way, a true religion, the sect of Abraham the orthodox; and he was no idolater. Say, verily my prayers, and my worship, and my life, and my death are dedicated unto God, the Lord of all creatures: He hath no companion. This have I been commanded: I am THE FIRST MOSLEM ( Wa 'Ana 'Awwalu Al-Muslimin ) . S. 6:161-163 Sale

He hath no associate. This am I commanded, and I am THE FIRST OF THE MUSLIMS. S. 6:163 Rodwell

Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only). AND I AM COMMANDED TO BE THE FIRST OF THOSE WHO ARE MUSLIMS (surrender unto Him). S. 39:11-12 Pickthal

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Demmzy15(m): 9:18pm On Sep 03, 2017

You're yet to prove Islam copied from the Bible, I'll dig through some threads and provide you with links of how your predecessors were whooped real bad.

alBHAGDADI:
You just affirmed my stance. Islam is a thief and a liar like its father the devil who is the father of lies.

Pathetic cries from a soar loser! grin

First, Islam claims all the prophets of the Bible as theirs then went on to say they were all MUSLIMS. but we know that is a blatant LIE.

The Bible was written many years after those Prophets, so you have no right to claim them.

If all the biblical prophets were Muslims, how come the Quran stated in many verses that Mohammad was the FIRST MUSLIM?

Your failures have started already, Prophet Muhammad(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) was the first to submit amongst the Arabs. Adam is the first Muslim on earth. For instance, Solagberu was the first Oyo Muslim but there were other Yoruba Muslims before him.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by alBHAGDADI: 9:52pm On Sep 03, 2017

Demmzy15:
You're yet to prove Islam copied from the Bible, I'll dig through some threads and provide you with links of how your predecessors were whooped real bad.
Pathetic cries from a soar loser!

If you are expecting me to provide how Quran copied the Bible word for word, then you will wait longer. The Quran copied stories told by the Bible and twisted them using lies and contradictions. Even the Quran told you to read the Bible for confirmation of what it says. Isn't that clear enough? Does the Bible tell you to read another source for confirmation of whatnot says? NO. Only a photocopy needs to the original for validation.

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee , then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers . S. 10:94-95 Pickthall

Demmzy15:
The Bible was written many years after those Prophets, so you have no right to claim them.

WRONG!

Many parts of the Bible was written by the prophets of old and in their time and they were even in their names e.g Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Joshua, Zechariah etc.

This alone shows you shouldn't be arguing with me cos you know nothing about what you are arguing about.

Demmzy15:
Your failures have started already, Prophet Muhammad(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) was the first to submit amongst the Arabs. Adam is the first Muslim on earth. For instance, Solagberu was the first Oyo Muslim but there were other Yoruba Muslims before him.

A lie will always be a lie even if you use a lie to cover it.

The Quran. didn't say he was the first to submit among the Arabs. It simply said he was the first Muslim. So, don't try to twist it cos doing so means you are changing the words of Allah and therefore deserve his punishment grin

Secondly, let's go with your argument that Mohammad was the first Arab to submit. That is still a big lie cos JOB was an Arab and God Himself mentioned him as His servant.

Job 1:8

Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered MY SERVANT JOB? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man WHO FEARS GOD AND SHUNS EVIL."

Job 1:3

and he owned seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, five hundred yoke of oxen and five hundred donkeys, and had a large number of servants. HE WAS THE GREATEST MAN AMONG ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE EAST.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Habyz(m): 10:16pm On Sep 03, 2017

KingGBsky:
Just shut up your mouth and give ur life to Christ before hell wraps you up...
What do you really know about the foundation of Muslim religion? how much do you know Mohammad who brought it to you.

How much do you know about Jesus Christ, who is your "Lord and personal Saviour" or how much do you know about Christianity itself.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Habyz(m): 10:18pm On Sep 03, 2017

KingGBsky:
Just shut up your mouth and give ur life to Christ before hell wraps you up...
What do you really know about the foundation of Muslim religion? how much do you know Mohammad who brought it to you.

Did Jesus ask for your life to be given to him?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Demmzy15(m): 10:34pm On Sep 03, 2017

Just look at how this alBHAGDADI successfully evaded Islam copying the bible. Very smart!!! cheesy

Please provide that, how did the Qur'an copy the Bible?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by alBHAGDADI: 8:15am On Sep 04, 2017

Demmzy15:
Just look at how this alBHAGDADI successfully evaded Islam copying the bible. Very smart!!!

Please provide that, how did the Qur'an copy the Bible?

Very funny of you and how you ignore my replies. You cunningly decided to mention me instead of quoting my post which is too difficult for you to challenge.

All the names of the prophets in your Quran and hadiths, we're they not gotten from the Bible?

Did the Bible get those names from any other book?

Which other book copied this names from the Bible asides Quran?

How come it is only the Quran that copied those names and stories?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by KingGBsky(op): 12:01pm On Sep 04, 2017

Habyz:
How much do you know about Jesus Christ, who is your "Lord and personal Saviour" or how much do you know about Christianity itself.

How much do I know God?
At this time of life you still don't know God?
What are you doing still living?

Jesus is Lord, The son of the living God, my saviour and Lord forevermore.
He saved me from this wicked world. Delivered me from the snare of Satan.
I do not need books written by scientist to know who My Lord is.
We all need to embrace Christ to be saved.
common now.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by AryEmber(f): 1:40pm On Sep 04, 2017

alBHAGDADI:
Very funny of you and how you ignore my replies. You cunningly decided to mention me instead of quoting my post which is too difficult for you to challenge.

All the names of the prophets in your Quran and hadiths, we're they not gotten from the Bible?

Did the Bible get those names from any other book?

Which other book copied this names from the Bible asides Quran?

How come it is only the Quran that copied those names and stories?

Sorry oh,I'm kind of lost here. Was it mentioned in the Quran that the prophets names and stories were copied from the Bible,if copied at all?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Bruno3000(m): 1:58pm On Sep 04, 2017

iamgenius:
See you, is that how jesus preached? If Jesus was like you he wont even gain the heart of people. If you want to preach, preach with wisdom and knowledge. Allah says: "Invite(mankind, O Muhammad(peace be upon him) to the Way of your Lord(i.e. Islam) with wisdom(i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Quran) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those whi are guided" Quran 16:125. You have gone astray already brother, u have been brain-washed you need to think using ur mind and heart without following what u been told.

The first sentence of that wiki article says: The claim that Allah was worshipped as a moon god in Arabia is a fringe theory that has been promoted by some groups of American evangelicals since the 1990s.
You see how ignorant you are. SMH for you.

So mohd was instructed to invite people to allah, why was he then using force/jihad?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Demmzy15(m): 2:42pm On Sep 04, 2017

alBHAGDADI:
Very funny of you and how you ignore my replies. You cunningly decided to mention me instead of quoting my post which is too difficult for you to challenge.

Lmao!!! Really? Just take a look at how your friend was whooped badly, go and read before coming here to spew trash
https://www.nairaland.com/2489382/where-did-mohammeds-stories-come

All the names of the prophets in your Quran and hadiths, we're they not gotten from the Bible?

Which bible existed in the 6th century? What language was it written? How did Prophet Muhammad purchase? I'll appreciate it if you can provide us with ample details.

Did the Bible get those names from any other book?

Many stories from the Bible were plagiarised from pagan books, check the above link provided!

Which other book copied this names from the Bible asides Quran?

You're yet to give us proofs for this bogus claim, without doing that, you're just making noise. So I wait for that!

How come it is only the Quran that copied those names and stories?

Everything in the Qur'an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad from God through Angel Jubril. All the Prophets are Muslims, you can't prove otherwise.

Now gtfo of my mention if you have nothing reasonable to say!

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by iamgenius(m): 3:39pm On Sep 04, 2017

Bruno3000:
So mohd was instructed to invite people to allah, why was he then using force/jihad?

Where was that written?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by kingsmaila(m): 4:40pm On Sep 04, 2017

We worship HE that sent Prophet Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Joseph, Jonah, Jesus and the seal of Prophets and Messengers Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Stop showcasing your ignorance.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Bruno3000(m): 4:43pm On Sep 04, 2017

iamgenius:
Where was that written?

So ur calling me liar? undecided

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by alBHAGDADI: 5:03pm On Sep 04, 2017

AryEmber:
Sorry oh,I'm kind of lost here. Was it mentioned in the Quran that the prophets names and stories were copied from the Bible,if copied at all?

Asides the Bible, which other book contains the names of those prophets?

The fact that the Bible came before the Quran shows that the Quran borrowed those stories from the Bible. Even the Quran told Muslims to check the Bible for confirmation of what the Quran says.

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by alBHAGDADI: 5:07pm On Sep 04, 2017

iamgenius:
Where was that written?

Mohammad speaking...

Hadith, collected by Bukhari (4.52.220)

I have been made victorious with terror

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by alBHAGDADI: 5:12pm On Sep 04, 2017

Demmzy15:
Lmao!!! Really? Just take a look at how your friend was whooped badly, go and read before coming here to spew trash
https://www.nairaland.com/2489382/where-did-mohammeds-stories-come

Which bible existed in the 6th century? What language was it written? How did Prophet Muhammad purchase? I'll appreciate it if you can provide us with ample details.

Many stories from the Bible were plagiarised from pagan books, check the above link provided!

You're yet to give us proofs for this bogus claim, without doing that, you're just making noise. So I wait for that!

Everything in the Qur'an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad from God through Angel Jubril. All the Prophets are Muslims, you can't prove otherwise.

Now gtfo of my mention if you have nothing reasonable to say!

One thing about you Muslims is that you love to cover a lie with another lie. Let's see how you did that here. I'll ignore the rest things you posted and do u say on only one cos the rest are just meaningless.

You claim stories from the bibke were plagiarised from pagan sources. Note that your attempt at such a lie exposes to ur Quran. How?

Your Quran told you Muslims to check the Bible for confirmation of what the Quran says. If we are to believe your lie, then it means that the Quran told you to check a pagan book for confirmation of what it says. This means that the Quran seeks confirmation from a pagan book thereby rendering it a pagan book too.

Pls, tell another lie to cover up your Islam.

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Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Demmzy15(m): 6:27pm On Sep 04, 2017

alBHAGDADI:
One thing about you Muslims is that you love to cover a lie with another lie. Let's see how you did that here. I'll ignore the rest things you posted and do u say on only one cos the rest are just meaningless.

You're yet to prove your assertion of Qur'an plagiarising the Bible

You claim stories from the bibke were plagiarised from pagan sources. Note that your attempt at such a lie exposes to ur Quran. How?

Evidence for this is available in the link attached in my last post!

Your Quran told you Muslims to check the Bible for confirmation of what the Quran says. If we are to believe your lie, then it means that the Quran told you to check a pagan book for confirmation of what it says. This means that the Quran seeks confirmation from a pagan book thereby rendering it a pagan book too.

Bible in Arabic is Al Kitaabul Muqadas and this word is not found in the Qur'an. So you've failed miserably again!

Oh and thanks for admitting your book is a pagan book.

Pls, tell another lie to cover up your Islam.

Cries from a pathetic loser! grin

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Habyz(m): 12:36am On Sep 05, 2017

KingGBsky:
How much do I know God?
At this time of life you still don't know God?
What are you doing still living?

Jesus is Lord, The son of the living God, my saviour and Lord forevermore.
He saved me from this wicked world. Delivered me from the snare of Satan.
I do not need books written by scientist to know who My Lord is.
We all need to embrace Christ to be saved.
common now.

You see, that's one thing I still don't understand, if he is God, how did he become the son of God?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Habyz(m): 12:36am On Sep 05, 2017

KingGBsky:
How much do I know God?
At this time of life you still don't know God?
What are you doing still living?

Jesus is Lord, The son of the living God, my saviour and Lord forevermore.
He saved me from this wicked world. Delivered me from the snare of Satan.
I do not need books written by scientist to know who My Lord is.
We all need to embrace Christ to be saved.
common now.

You see, that's one thing I still don't understand, if he is God then how did he become the son of God?

Re: PROOF Muslim Religion Worshipers Worship Idols Instead Of God by Habyz(m): 12:40am On Sep 05, 2017

Demmzy15:
You're yet to prove your assertion of Qur'an plagiarising the Bible

Evidence for this is available in the link attached in my last post!

Bible in Arabic is Al Kitaabul Muqadas and this word is not found in the Qur'an. So you've failed miserably again!

Oh and thanks for admitting your book is a pagan book.

Cries from a pathetic loser!

I don't mean to poke my nose or anything but I'll have you know that the earliest known Bible has been rediscovered and the contents are almost completely different from the modern day Bible.

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