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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KITAMATA: 7:06pm On Sep 05, 2017
Thanks Baba, all the requirements shall be met l'agbara Eledumare.
EgunMogaji:


Sorry but we don't accept beg anymore. You have to wet the ground for the boys with Schnapps and kolanut cheesy

Search for Skimanski and also Muyesky. Or you can do Baba Lateef the local welder.

I personally will never buy a local door anymore but still will like to take a gander at Skimanski doors.

Good luck.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 8:24pm On Sep 05, 2017
[quote author=bixton post=60165265][/quote]

shocked shocked shocked

You did not say anything!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 9:37pm On Sep 05, 2017
oyb:


please be very careful; i am currently in a fight with some dubious phcn officials over this very issue

in theory, you will be classified based on your consumption and charged accordingly; i have attached the NERC guidelines - you will see same on ekedc website

https://www.ekedp.com/residential

you should theoretically fall into R1/R2




make sure everything is double documented. if you paid for single phase the implication is that single phase power is coming into your house. even if you have three phase supply, owing to the unreliability, there is often the possibility that ekedc or whichever provider you are using will take a single phase and loop it into your supply.



in the picture above, the single phase live has been looped because it is propably going to three pole switchgear [note that this can only work if your loads are single phase, if you loop the supply of any three phase equipment, it will not work.

in my case, my house has three phase supply outside, however, only one phase comes in. in 2015, i had a single phase meter wich was replaced with a three phase meter. the installer looped the single phase wire across the meter. fast forward to today, and some other officials are claiming that i looped/bypassed the meter. they are asking for workman's card etc etc.

the three phase meter will work, but there is a possibility that a team of ekedc officials is trying to set you up for future extortion. even though they are a private organization, the culture is still the same. i have escalated to the highest level and there has been no response.
the implication



not really, distribution boards [not consumer units are three phase] , though the end loads/circuits are single phase. as a domestic user, you are unlikely to have any three phase load unless you are going for packaged air conditioners



you are billed based on your consumption and your rating. as an r2 customer you would be paying 24k per kwh. your total kwh will depend on your consumption, not on the meter.

. the power frequency in nigeria is 50hz. this is irrespective of phase. to the best of my knowledge across the world the standard for AC power distribution is 50 or 60hz.

this is what happens - three phase supply is red, yellow blue and neutral. ry 415, yb 415, br 415, rn 230, yn 230, bn 230. everything coming out of your distribution board is rn, yn , or bn [single phase] unless you put in a three pole mcb specifically for three phase item.

what i am saying is at the last point you are getting single phase , regardless of what [single or three phase] is coming into your house.

please ensure that you capture all details of work done.



I will take everything you said into consideration.
I saw an R1, R2, R2S and R2T in the classifications.
Could it be that the "S" (in above) is for Single phase and the "T" is for Three Phase?
The Cost/KWh is close but not exactly the same (24K and 25.75K respectively)

Also, because it is a 3-phase supply, one cannot use a 2-Pole Breaker (Live and Nuetral) but will require a 4-Pole Breaker (Red, Yellow, Blue and Neutral), which is additional cost.

But l understand that if you can put a Cut-out after the breaker, you can actually use the three lines (like @Angelicbeing using two lines out of the three)

I throw you better Salute Sir..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 9:48pm On Sep 05, 2017
AngelicBeing:
l got the 3phase meter on my property in lagos, tarrif is based on usage but I noticed when they took light during my last visit, I was able to switch to the other line

Meaning you used a cut-out in your setup, which allows you to switch from one phase line to another?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 10:07pm On Sep 05, 2017
Daboomb:


Meaning you used a cut-out in your setup, which allows you to switch from one phase line to another?
l didn't really check properly the connection the Phcn electrical engineer did because I was not In Nigeria, but what I know was that during my visit when they took light, I went to the switch board and switch to the next phase and I had light while neighbors around me where not having, I also noticed that he installed 3different light bulbs on the panel, which enables me to know which phase has light or not and I can change from one phase to the other, I hope l answered your questions

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 10:38pm On Sep 05, 2017
AngelicBeing:
l didn't really check properly the connection the Phcn electrical engineer did because I was not In Nigeria, but what I know was that during my visit when they took light, I went to the switch board and switch to the next phase and I had light while neighbors around me where not having, I also noticed that he installed 3different light bulbs on the panel, which enables me to know which phase has light or not and I can change from one phase to the other, I hope l answered your questions

Thank you.
That means all your three phases are energized individually (Red, Blue, Yellow), as aagainst just looping a single phase into the three-phase meter.

A major advantage of the 3-phase meter.
Your neighbours must be like: That man na NEPA man! grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:56pm On Sep 05, 2017
Daboomb:


Thank you.
That means all your three phases are energized individually (Red, Blue, Yellow), as aagainst just looping a single phase into the three-phase meter.

A major advantage of the 3-phase meter.
Your neighbours must be like: That man na NEPA man! grin grin grin

Back in the old days, I use to have to unplug a big ass fuse from one socket and plug into another.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:11am On Sep 06, 2017
Daboomb:


Thank you.
That means all your three phases are energized individually (Red, Blue, Yellow), as aagainst just looping a single phase into the three-phase meter.

A major advantage of the 3-phase meter.
Your neighbours must be like: That man na NEPA man! grin grin grin

Any one can do it as long they procure the supply cables themselves and discuss with official doing the connection. At certain times all 3 phase are energized. The distribution company discourages against that due to over load on transformer in the instance if one line is out people tend plug in to another phase.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jossy26: 5:10am On Sep 06, 2017
Hello house, does anyone knows anything about this biofil digester toilet, especially for water logged area? would appreciate if anyone have this unit installed in their build and can share experience compared to the normal septic unit
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:29am On Sep 06, 2017
jossy26:
Hello house, does anyone knows anything about this biofil digester toilet, especially for water logged area? would appreciate if anyone have this unit installed in their build and can share experience compared to the normal septic unit

If you care enough to go back hundreds of pages you will find a discussion on it by Brabus.

Good luck.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 5:35am On Sep 06, 2017
EgunMogaji:


If you care enough to go back hundreds of pages you will find a discussion on it by Brabus.

Good luck.

Any update on brabus sir?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jossy26: 5:59am On Sep 06, 2017
EgunMogaji:


If you care enough to go back hundreds of pages you will find a discussion on it by Brabus.

Good luck.

Ok thanks, will search

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 6:36am On Sep 06, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Back in the old days, I use to have to unplug a big ass fuse from one socket and plug into another.

The cutout fuse

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 6:41am On Sep 06, 2017
jossy26:


Ok thanks, will search

dont really know much but I think I can shed some light on it.A Biodigesters is an airtight container that converts organic waste to Biogas.

You can use containers like tanks as your biodifester just make sure you add an overflow pipe and another pipe with a stop cork or tap to suck out the gas with.
You can also use your septic tank as your septic tank just make sure its airtight.Attach an overflow pipe with a valve and gage meter which would show when its full.Also attach another pipe for sucking the gas.

The gas extracted can serve as cooking gas.You would need to leave the biodigester for a month, constantly checking the guage to know how much has been released so far.

ORGANIC WASTE CAN BE WASTE FROM FROM HUMANS,ANIMALS AND FOODWASTE.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:47am On Sep 06, 2017
Flaghouse1:


Any update on brabus sir?

None.

I hope he's doing well, restituted the aggrieved and turned over a new leaf.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:05am On Sep 06, 2017
kino47:
Dear Nairalanders
I just discovered another popular builder that's a fraudster on this thread am gathering up all my evidence against him, will post soon.
What I have gotten to realize is intending builders Get carried away by pictures all the time sometimes it's part of the game.
Secondly this guys know themselves most of them (engineers)on this thread, when Spyder the builder came out clean showing us cost and details some of them where not comfortable am sure they called him to stop it. These particular builder almost finished me but I will be the one to finish him before he does please hold while I gather all my evidence.

NOTE:it's not compulsory you recruit from Nairaland you can learn from Nairaland without recruiting I tell u

We haven't had a proper scandal in a while.

Oya come with it.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 7:17am On Sep 06, 2017
EgunMogaji:


None.

I hope he's doing well, restituted the aggrieved and turned over a new leaf.

The guy just blew a very great opportunity for referrals from this forum, turning a new leaf I hope,I m not just comfortable dealing with people with questionable characters once I discover any proven cases against them.

I hope other intending frauds learn !!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 7:21am On Sep 06, 2017
raymondFirstborn:


dont really know much but I think I can shed some light on it.A Biodigesters is an airtight container that converts organic waste to Biogas.

You can use containers like tanks as your biodifester just make sure you add an overflow pipe and another pipe with a stop cork or tap to suck out the gas with.
You can also use your septic tank as your septic tank just make sure its airtight.Attach an overflow pipe with a valve and gage meter which would show when its full.Also attach another pipe for sucking the gas.

The gas extracted can serve as cooking gas.You would need to leave the biodigester for a month, constantly checking the guage to know how much has been released so far.

ORGANIC WASTE CAN BE WASTE FROM FROM HUMANS,ANIMALS AND FOODWASTE.

Seems to know more about this discourse,are you the one that installed the bio stuff at Efe'swork at Abraham adesanya ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:54am On Sep 06, 2017
Flaghouse1:


Seems to know more about this discourse,are you the one that installed the bio stuff at Efe'swork at Abraham adesanya ?

No, but I have always had interest in Biogas and I've read a couple of books and attended seminars on Biogas and biofuel. So as to have knowledge on construction of a biodigester for ESTIMATING and BOQ purposes.

You can send me a Mail anyway if you need more info.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 6:29pm On Sep 06, 2017
true2home:
you are fine Sir. What most people does not know is that the exterior wall actually carry's less load that the partition wall in the building itself. The exterior walls usually carry's half the load that sits on it and in some cases, even a quarter of the load. The partition walls in the middle of the house carry direct loads from the roof squarely. Read up on Tributary Areas on columns for more details... Engineering!!!




While your statement is true that the partition wall in the middle of the house carries load but it always depends on the SHAPE of the hip roof.

Tributary loads are majorly from your top ridge to your first joist /strut. So if the spacing of the tributary area is reduced, it in-turn reduces the force / load on your middle internal wall.

Its just to buttress your point and to add that your can reduce the load acting on your middle internal wall by design.

One thing i always do if client and budget permits is to put a beam / head course on my internal dividing wall so far as it doesn't impede ceiling design.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by true2home(m): 7:27pm On Sep 06, 2017
You are absolutely right Sir. By the way, you have been doing a fantastic job thus far. I like to see younger guys doing big things.

While your statement is true that the partition wall in the middle of the house carries load but it always depends on the SHAPE of the hip roof.

Tributary loads are majorly from your top ridge to your first joist /strut. So if the spacing of the tributary area is reduced, it in-turn reduces the force / load on your middle internal wall.

Its just to buttress your point and to add that your can reduce the load acting on your middle internal wall by design.

One thing i always do if client and budget permits is to put a beam / head course on my internal dividing wall so far as it doesn't impede ceiling design.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:03pm On Sep 06, 2017
KolaShangOne:


While your statement is true that the partition wall in the middle of the house carries load but i[b]t always depends on the SHAPE of the hip roof[/b].

Tributary loads are majorly from your top ridge to your first joist /strut. So if the spacing of the tributary area is reduced, it in-turn reduces the force / load on your middle internal wall.

Its just to buttress your point and to add that your can reduce the load acting on your middle internal wall by design.

One thing i always do if client and budget permits is to put a beam / head course on my internal dividing wall so far as it doesn't impede ceiling design.


Professor to the rescue. This is what is missing on Nairaland. Not many steps out of the box.

One of my houses in California does not have any load bearing internal wall. The walls are true partitions.

Back when it was built, you cannot change the outside wall but you can sit down with the builders Architect and configure the internals

Oga AbdulWastecsx, una no go shook mouth for the matter?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 8:05pm On Sep 06, 2017
EgunMogaji:


None.

I hope he's doing well, restituted the aggrieved and turned over a new leaf.

I hope so too, for his own good. undecided undecided
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:37pm On Sep 06, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Professor to the rescue. This is what is missing on Nairaland. Not many steps out of the box.

One of my houses in California does not have any load bearing internal wall. The walls are true partitions.

Back when it was built, you cannot change the outside wall but you can sit down with the builders Architect and configure the internals

Oga AbdulWastecsx, una no go shook mouth for the matter?

I dey here my big Oga.

The standard configuration of roof truss will look like the picture you posted above, where you have only two members, namely the strut ( members undergoing compression) and the tie (member undergoing tension on the the applied load.

These members forces are gotten through structural analysis of the load acting on the roof such as
Dead load
1. Load of roofing sheet, 2.load of the self weight of roofing truss, 3. Load from suspended ceilings or pop and 4. Load from Fittings such as plumbing and electrical.

Impose load (life load)
1. Load from rainfall
2. Load from snow (for Europe and north America
3. Wind load ( when the structures is high rise or places with high wind velocity.

After all these loads have been estimated, these load are basically applied through a simplified method through a node ( point where we have the purlin) and the analysis are carried out using manual method like joint method of truss analysis, or section method or using a specialized softwares.

The result from the structural analysis is used to size the timber truss members for the members in tension and compression by looking at standard stress of the timber and their sectional properties.

The load from these timber roof will act at the roof supports which are normally the external walls of the building.

In summary, a standard roof truss design and constructed following basic engineering principle will distribute load to the external walls but most of the wood truss we build here are not design to have a clear span between the two external walls of the building ,they are designed to have intermediate supports which are the internals walls, hence, they carry more load than the external walls

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Tnot(m): 11:07am On Sep 07, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Olazzeedris(m): 12:18pm On Sep 07, 2017
Hello house, pls educate me on how to lease land for GSM network providers, the terms of agreement, amount and any others requirement I may need from them, the location is outskirts of Lagos
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 12:36pm On Sep 07, 2017
have sent you a mail regarding what you asked for.

luvablesam
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by true2home(m): 1:17pm On Sep 07, 2017
After all is said and done, the Engineer will design to specification and intended use of the structure. The Exterior walls can be designed to carry the loads by itself and likewise, the interior walls can be design to bear loads as well. This is the difference between Baba Bricklayer designing your house and A Professional Engineer.

For those that wants to know what Engineering is in a short phrase; Its the design of anything to be SAFE, ECONOMICAL AND FUNCTIONAL. No one way fit all in engineering. Engineers use science and math to innovate and solve problem period!


abdulwastecx:


I dey here my big Oga.

The standard configuration of roof truss will look like the picture you posted above, where you have only two members, namely the strut ( members undergoing compression) and the tie (member undergoing tension on the the applied load.

These members forces are gotten through structural analysis of the load acting on the roof such as
Dead load
1. Load of roofing sheet, 2.load of the self weight of roofing truss, 3. Load from suspended ceilings or pop and 4. Load from Fittings such as plumbing and electrical.

Impose load (life load)
1. Load from rainfall
2. Load from snow (for Europe and north America
3. Wind load ( when the structures is high rise or places with high wind velocity.

After all these loads have been estimated, these load are basically applied through a simplified method through a node ( point where we have the purlin) and the analysis are carried out using manual method like joint method of truss analysis, or section method or using a specialized softwares.

The result from the structural analysis is used to size the timber truss members for the members in tension and compression by looking at standard stress of the timber and their sectional properties.

The load from these timber roof will act at the roof supports which are normally the external walls of the building.

In summary, a standard roof truss design and constructed following basic engineering principle will distribute load to the external walls but most of the wood truss we build here are not design to have a clear span between the two external walls of the building ,they are designed to have intermediate supports which are the internals walls, hence, they carry more load than the external walls
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 3:28pm On Sep 07, 2017
Olazzeedris:
Hello house, pls educate me on how to lease land for GSM network providers, the terms of agreement, amount and any others requirement I may need from them, the location is outskirts of Lagos
Contact a lawyer within your jurisdiction to help you draft the agreement
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 3:30pm On Sep 07, 2017
true2home:
After all is said and done, the Engineer will design to specification and intended use of the structure. The Exterior walls can be designed to carry the loads by itself and likewise, the interior walls can be design to bear loads as well. This is the difference between Baba Bricklayer designing your house and A Professional Engineer.

For those that wants to know what Engineering is in a short phrase; Its the design of anything to be SAFE, ECONOMICAL AND FUNCTIONAL. No one way fit all in engineering. Engineers use science and math to innovate and solve problem period!


wink cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:32pm On Sep 07, 2017
abdulwastecx:


In summary, a standard roof truss design and constructed following basic engineering principle will distribute load to the external walls but most of the wood truss we build here are not design to have a clear span between the two external walls of the building ,they are designed to have intermediate supports which are the internals walls, hence, they carry more load than the external walls

Thanks for the response Sir.

I pose this question specifically to you and the other demonstrated Ogas like, Skimanski, Spyder880, Aventures, RichYoungRuler, ArchitecB, Darynex

1) Why don't we design trusses that does not require internal support? Is it because of know how or simply unavailability of proper materials?

2) Is this limiting to the designs that we can eventually build?

Thank you for your time.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 5:26pm On Sep 07, 2017
grin cheesy grin

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