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ambassagod:
Sorry, are you an illiterate? Did you ever go to school?

I asked because I am greatly marveled at the height of deformity in your post here.

As for the bolded, you can close your eyes, put your hand upon your chest and say that anthem over and over again.

As for the remaining post, it really proves that you are an illetrate and I can't engage you. Go find your fellow atheistic illetrates not me.

ambassagod:
I knew already!

There is no time I should expect any intelligent or reasonable thing from your guys. Always disappointing.

Take your "troll" and move ahead. Or rather, suck it up.

ambassagod:
First and foremost, there is NO reasonable reason, whatsoever, to say there is no uncaused first cause(God). It defiles all human logics in all ramifications.

You need a proof of God? Reality!

Yes, the fact that something is existing today is the greatest evidence of God. God is an UNCAUSED FIRST CAUSE, do yourself a favor by allowing it to sink into your subconscious mind.

If you believe that everything popped out from nothing, it is either you are dumb, drunk, mentally disabled or highly misinformed. And I don't want you to stay in any of these categories.

However, there is no evidence, whatsoever, that has ever existed to prove there is no need for an uncaused first cause. If you have it, then bring it up. I would be highly interested!

I resort to insults? Alright, it depends what you see as "insult". If you mean, telling someone that he is dumb, when he is actually sounding dumb, then I am okay with that. Because, I am honest with myself and people I deal with.

But, if you are talking about derailing a thread with insults, then I am probably not the one you are talking about.

gabe:
we have proof of a big bang. We have no proof of an 'uncaused causer'. It just sounds logical because its been drilled into us. People point to a painting, a building etc as proof of creation, since most of what we see were logically created. However, there are several processes that occur spontaneously like gravitational effects, entrophy etc. Also, if you make a rule saying all things were created by a creator, you simply negate the rule by espousing an 'uncaused causer'. The rule that all things were created by a creator falls flat on its face because of the infinite regression of creators. An 'uncaused causer' is a coop out to make it plausible.

butterflylion:
I will ignore the rest of your comment since its just you mumbling things you do not know and focus on the bolded.

Can you show me proof of this big bang I would love to see it

Meanwhile According to the standard theory of the big bang, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago.

What is this singularity and where does it come from? Since you say you have proof of the big bang then show me this singularity it sprang from which is the best proof of a big bang.

While at it, also tell me where the singularity came from.

I dey wait!

gabe:
there are several converging evidence for the big bang. Just checking wiki will show you, but you are afraid to, because it might shatter your illusions. The existence of microwaves in the same density and frequencies at various places it has been measured in the solar system, on earth and the universe indicate they exist as reminants of such an event as the big bang. Think of microwaves as smoke after a fire. Their uniform distribution on earth and elsewere is evidence in favour of the big bang. Of course this and many other demonstrable phenomena eg cosmic gravitational waves were mathematically proven by Einstein and other physicists a long time ago. We just recently developed instruments to confirm their hypotheses. Nobody knows what happened before the big bang, including theists, no matter how many words they throw at us. What is certain is they don't have a single shred of evidence to back their several posturings.

butterflylion:
No matter how many words they throw at us? Who is throwing words at you or "us"? Why the sound of desperation?

I asked a simple question. SHOW ME THE SINGULARITY AND WHERE IT CAME FROM and you are typing an epistle.


Big bangers believe Our universe is thought to have begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot, infinitely dense, something - a singularity. Where did it come from? We don't know. Why did it appear? We don't know.


Maybe you know so show me and tell me.

gabe:
Good! Since you agree a big bang happened, we are getting somewhere. Scientists are not afraid to say 'we do not know' if they have no evidence. It is the basis of all research, the quest to know what we don't. Theists on the other hand, thrive on the unprovable. That grey area where they can claim anything. How can anyone prove god/a god caused the big bang? Which god? Jehovah, baal, allah, zeus, horus? What makes you so sure in the absence of evidence? Would you accept the absence of evidence in any other aspect of ur life? Why accept it in this aspect?

butterflylion:
Dude read my comment again. I DO NOT AGREE A BIG BANG HAPPENED. why are you projecting?

Answer my questions joor and stop jumping around. Show me this singularity

gabe:
we have proof of a big bang. We have no proof of an 'uncaused causer'. It just sounds logical because its been drilled into us. People point to a painting, a building etc as proof of creation, since most of what we see were logically created. However, there are several processes that occur spontaneously like gravitational effects, entrophy etc. Also, if you make a rule saying all things were created by a creator, you simply negate the rule by espousing an 'uncaused causer'. The rule that all things were created by a creator falls flat on its face because of the infinite regression of creators. An 'uncaused causer' is a coop out to make it plausible.

butterflylion:
I will ignore the rest of your comment since its just you mumbling things you do not know and focus on the bolded.

Can you show me proof of this big bang I would love to see it

Meanwhile According to the standard theory of the big bang, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago.

What is this singularity and where does it come from? Since you say you have proof of the big bang then show me this singularity it sprang from which is the best proof of a big bang.

While at it, also tell me where the singularity came from.

I dey wait!

gabe:
there are several converging evidence for the big bang. Just checking wiki will show you, but you are afraid to, because it might shatter your illusions. The existence of microwaves in the same density and frequencies at various places it has been measured in the solar system, on earth and the universe indicate they exist as reminants of such an event as the big bang. Think of microwaves as smoke after a fire. Their uniform distribution on earth and elsewere is evidence in favour of the big bang. Of course this and many other demonstrable phenomena eg cosmic gravitational waves were mathematically proven by Einstein and other physicists a long time ago. We just recently developed instruments to confirm their hypotheses. Nobody knows what happened before the big bang, including theists, no matter how many words they throw at us. What is certain is they don't have a single shred of evidence to back their several posturings.

butterflylion:
No matter how many words they throw at us? Who is throwing words at you or "us"? Why the sound of desperation?

I asked a simple question. SHOW ME THE SINGULARITY AND WHERE IT CAME FROM and you are typing an epistle.


Big bangers believe Our universe is thought to have begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot, infinitely dense, something - a singularity. Where did it come from? We don't know. Why did it appear? We don't know.


Maybe you know so show me and tell me.

gabe:
it came from god...

ScepticalPyrrho:
OLAADEGBU

You need a class in logic.

What makes Yahweh the Creator of the eye?

OLAADEGBU:
Leave the banana man alone, at least you can console yourself with the fact that you share 50% of the banana's DNA. Do you believe nothing created everything?

geoworldedu:
the bible made yahweh d creator of the eye, but the doctufos of Otem made yahweh a creature of the Creator

ambassagod:
See another one.

Just guys love ranting.

geoworldedu:
I have spoken, what do you have to say?

ambassagod:
That you love ranting.

ambassagod:
You see the confirmation of the clueless of this young man? When I say that someone is clueless and misinformed, some people would think I am being insultive or harsh. This is a confirmation of one!

ambassagod:
Imagine how clueless you sound. I am not surprised, because that's what I have always expected from someone so deluded to believe everything popped out of nothing. Unfortunately, I can't engage you in this argument. That's the worst I can do. If I should take this up, I am sure as hell that you can't cope. Go and read up please, you are definitely behind.

ambassagod:
They should be more bothered with this. But, they don't have conscience to consider. They just don't want the opposite to be true.

obinna58:
Is that ur evidence
Laughable

ambassagod:
The fact that most of them don't answer this before asking "which of the gods" question, clearly makes them dumber than how dumb they were.

And I will be the last person, to bring myself so low to argue with such person.

Niflheim:
@The General House,

In case anybody asks you to explain how the world came from "nothing", the best way to reply such a person is by telling them that you do not debate with people who come to Nairaland with "FLAWED PREMISES"!!!

1.There is no such thing as "Nothing", the people who still ask such questions are those who possess "failed models of the human brain"!!!

2.A non-believer, Lawrence Krauss(agnostic atheist), who is also a Professor, Cosmologist and Theoretical Physicist, has already explained to us why "NOTHING" does not exist, and why there will always be "SOMETHING", but those who are still bringing up this now stale, lame, tired and ignorant argument are those who were busy drinking toilet water or eating grass when the book came out!!!

3.How can an Atheist say, "No such thing as nothing", only for the foolish christian to retort, "Now prove to us how the world came from nothing"!!! But if we have already rejected your imbecilic premise, how can you now tell us to prove how the Universe came from this very imbecilic premise that we have already denounced? This is like an Atheist saying that, "There is no such thing as the Easter bunny", only for the imbecilic christian to ask, "So tell me how did the Easter Bunny's dung find it's way in the corner of my mouth?"................................Pathetic lunatic on display!!!

4.My Bullshit detector has just detected "The Fallacy of the Loaded Question"!!! Eg. "Have you stopped beating your wife?"---But I never said that I was beating my wife in the first place!!!

Example 2: "So how did the world come from Nothing?"---I never said that the world came from Nothing!!!

I will never debate a pathetic piece of swine dung like you because I suffer from "COULROPHOBIA"!!! I am allergic to clowns!!!

Link 1:............................................http://bigthink.com/robby-berman/theres-no-such-thing-as-nothing-according-to-quantum-physics

Link 2:...........................................http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2017/04/theres-no-such-thing-as-nothing.html#.WbJynTXavcs

Link 3:............................................http://www.jonkaufman.com/2014/05/no-such-thing-as-nothing/

Link 4:..........................................https://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2011/11/why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-empty-space.html

Link 5:.........................................https://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2011/11/why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-empty-space.html

ambassagod:
They should be more bothered with this. But, they don't have conscience to consider. They just don't want the opposite to be true.