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Why South South Nations Won't Join Biafra. South South nations will rather form thier Own Confederation or seperate Nations

Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to Biafra. This deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is completely different from Biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and Hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba instead.

As far as I am concern IGBO, YORUBA and HAUSA are all benefitting from the current system. Afterall an IGBO man Gen Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in 1966 that we are complaining against today. When Isaac Adaka Boro wanted to form Ijaw Nation Republic in 1966 it was Igbo Head of State Gen Agunyi Ironsi that fought him with a 12 days war.

The Igbo claim to be one of us because some south south states were part of the old Eastern region. First of all, eastern region was created by Nigeria for Nigeria convenience. It was not a decision of the nationalities that made up the old eastern region. Secondly before most people forget, today edo and delta state were never at anytime part of eastern region. edo and delta were first Western region later became Midwestern region, then change to Bendel state before becoming edo and delta state today. some tribes speak Yoruba in edo and delta state. why is Yoruba not claiming edo and delta state the way Igbo is claiming rivers and delta states because some people speak ibo in those states?

Igbo may have succeeded in brainwashing some south south people that they are one of us, it is a big lie. They may have succeeded in brainwashing some of us that only hausa and Yoruba is the problem of south south, it is a big lie. They are the same as far as I am concern.

The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in Population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Sigapore. if Qatar and Sigapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like qatar and enjoy thier oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!!


Below is the size of south south states and south east states. South South is almost 3times the size of south East.
Yet the population of South east is almost 80% of south south population base on 2006 census. But by the time you add igbo who are currently leaving outside south east, you will discover that thier population is more than all the south south put together. More than 90% of the resources (oil, gas, limestones,etc) are in the south south. The whole of South East is landlock with no direct access to the sea or atlantic ocean. but almost all the south south states have direct assess to the sea and atlantic ocean. Some we say they have River Niger. River Niger is not a sea or an ocean for big Ships.

Tell me why South South Nations will want to form a country with south east if they have a choice ? all south east will bring to the table is population and domination? The total oil production from south east is not up to 10% of south south oil production!

If you are the leader of south south nations will you advice them to form a country with south east if they have the option of forming their own country alone? give a sincere answer?

As far as I am concern, as unbrainwashed south south , there is no difference between the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me, these are three major tribe struggling and fighting for Supiriority. Whenever any of the three is loosing, he shout Marginalization.

During Jonathan govt, the Igbos were gaining and were in control and were happy. The Yoruba were losing and were shouting Marginalization. The hausa/fulani were not happy because they were not fully in control. For the North we can slightly understand because in the 16years of democracy (May 1999 to May 2015) the south ruled 13.3years while the North had just 2.7years

The Igbo don't love south south more than the hausa or Yoruba love us. All the three tribe are all struggling for the control of south south oil. None of the three is better than the other as far as we south south are concern.

The only place south south nationalities agree with Igbo is Nigeria should divide. However while south south clamour for succession is base on lack of true fiscal Federalism, on the other hand, igbo clamour for succession is base on IGBO BORN TO RULE, CONTROL AND EXPLOIT MENTALITY. Igbo make noise and claim d north have born to rule mentality because of Sokoto State former motto of born to rule which they have change. The People with the true born to rule mentality are d Igbo. it is because they are not having thier way that they are complaining and making all d noise all over Nigeria.

But how and why Nigeria will and should divide, what we want and what they want is as different as d distance of the earth to d moon.

South south want thier own freedom. we will support Biafra as Igbo only nation while they should support us to form our own nation or nations. But trying to add us as an appendage to Biafra will never happen.

If south south join Biafra, our individual identities will be wiped out in less than 50years. They will convert every south south nationality to Igbo. And they will so much take charge of the oil and resources with reckless abandon without any regard to d minorities.

LET EVERYONE FORMS HIS OWN NATION. SOUTH SOUTH NATIONS DONT WANT IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA IN THIER NATION. WE DONT WANT ANY DOMINANT TRIBE TO CONTROL US IF OR WHEN NIGERIA DIVIDE.

They will argue that there are some igbo in rivers state, delta state and edo state. As far as i am concern Igbo speaking people in south south will join Niger delta republic or confederation. Their are Hausa people in Niger, there are Yoruba people in Benin Republic and Togo. Does that make those yoruba and hausa speaking people in those countries Nigerians?

The south south nationalities can form a confederation with United Arab Emirate template, where seven different nationalities came together to form a confederation with each nationality having some form of autonomy.

if the south east want to join the confederation they can join. We can't leave nigeria and go and form another normal single country were there is a dominant tribe. That will be moving from frying pan to fire.

Just like the United Ararb emirate asked qatar and behrain to join them, but qatar and behrain choose to form thier individual countries.

What Biafra represent is a single country with a powerful centre where a dominant tribe can control. South south dont want that. If we must fight or struggle for succession, we need a new name like "United State of niger delta" or any other name which clearly shows a union rather than a single country.

We need to set the record straight before south south nations make the mistake of south Sudan. It is more than Four years south sudan left
sudan to form thier country. Since that time south sudan has been in War while North Sudan enjoy peace. This was because nations in
south sudan came together to form a single country without ensuring that thier difference in ethnicity was fully discuss. Some
part of south sudan are now feeling marginalized. That is exactly what will happen if Igbo succeed in forcing south south nations into
Biafra. That so called Biafra wont have peace. It will be another Somalia!!!!

For peace to rain let Igbo form Biafra from the Five south east state and let the the six states in south south form a confederation or seperate nations. Anything outside this will never work.

I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.

I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it.
Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.

a quote from Isaac Adaka Boro Autobiography (wriiten himself). Read Chapter 5 - Campus Politics
http://www.adakaboro.org/the12dayrev/chapter-5-campus-politics.
This was the campaign statement of his opponent for UNN SUG presidency:
"My opponent, Ejiogu, took the floor when I had finished, and what did he say? "Ladies and gentleman, this is a crucial time in Nigeria when we should not allow a vocal minority to rule an obvious majority.
These words still ring in my memory because, as my opponent put it, they are crucial not only to me but to my people, the Ijaws. Most of the alien students walked out of the hall and it seemed as if a spell was cast on the atmosphere. The campaigns ended solemnly and the result of the election was again one way. Ejiogu won with his majority. The last minute strategy. A Cameroonian friend of mine, John Ngole, promptly resigned his secretaryship of the Historical Society in protest."

I am very sure that Nigeria will divide faster if Igbo seek Biafra with 5 south east state alone and Niger delta republic seek a country with the 6 South south states alone at the same time. Once the Hausa and Yoruba sees that Igbo are supporting a Niger Delta republic separate from Biafra, they will see it as true struggle. But if the struggle is about Biafra with south south in it, where Igbo will gain south south resources with Yoruba and Hausa loosing out, I bet you until South South oil finishes, Nigeria wont divide.

We don't need to form a single country with Igbo, we can seek for our separate nation on two front simultaneously but not on one front.
What we need is cooperation from Igbo not togetherness with Igbo. If they truly want to leave Nigeria and liberate Niger delta people from dominant tribes, they should support us to form our nation as they form thiers. I bet you when that happen, the struggle will be half won.

The Ojukwu Biafra was Igbo dream not Ijaw, Esan, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ikwerre, ogoni, ibibio, etc dream.

In summary, my point is if Nigeria will divide peacefully by United Nations referendum, south south will not join Biafra. South South will form its own nation/nations. The only way south south and south east will form a single country like Biafra is if Nigeria divide by War because population will be important in size of Army.

My Igbo neighbour may not like this submission, but it is the bitter truth

One Cold Orijin Bottle for you and a plate of assorted. this igbos will never see beyond their cockiness. Ijaws will NEVER AND CAN NEVER EVER join biafra, rather we will remain in Nigeria. I hope they dont hope on us being part of them or they will live to regret it.

[quote author=attackgat post=60230369]How many of them did you consult before including them in South/South?

Yet to see any of the tribes deny that they are not part of the Niger Delta. Should we start counting the number of tribes in the south south that have come out to denounce Biafra? Biafra is an Igbo dream, not an Ijaw, Urhobo,cEdo, or Itsekiri dream. Let's keep it that way bro.



Because nobody is agitating for that. When people want their own country, they take to the streets, wave their flags and colours and let the world know they want freedom. Only Biafrans are doing this.

We will agitate at the right time bro. We are fighting for true federalism. If we don't get that, then we will kick-start the next plan.



Well since nobody is saying anything about any Niger Delta country, the question should be between sharing revenue between the 11 proposed states and the 36 states of Nigeria plus Abuja, which one is better?

Lol. Typical Igbo greedy mentality. We all know you guys want for yourselves only. Like I said before, everyone in this country knows the Igbos are extremely greedy. We will not make the mistake of jumping from frying pan to fire. we don't need a new set of greedy parasites.



Well if you guys are better off on your own, start doing something about or shut up and remain part of Nigeria forever.[/quote

Once true federalism come on board, I won't have any problem with the Nigeria structure. Like EK Clarke said, true federalism, resource control, restructuring or whatever they call it these days will set this country on the right track. If we don't get it, we can then begin to agitate for our own country. But one thingI can assure is that lots of the tribes in Niger Delta will never be part of Biafra. You should know now by the number that have denounced Biafra. Don't let IPOB deceive you guys in the East.

I can assure you that Nigeria will divide faster if Igbo seek Biafra with 5 south east state alone and Niger delta republic seek a country with the six South south states alone at the same time. Once the Hausa and Yoruba sees that Igbo are supporting a Niger Delta republic separate from Biafra, they will see it as true struggle. But if the struggle is about Biafra with south south in it, where Igbo will gain south south resoures with Yoruba and Hausa loosing out, I bet you until South South oil finish, Nigeria wont divide.

We don't need to form a single country with Igbo, we can seek for our separate nation on two front simultaneously but not on one front.

What we need is cooperation from Igbo not togetherness with Igbo. If they truly want to leave Nigeria and liberate Niger delta people from dominant tribes, they should support us to form our nation as they form thiers. I bet you when that happen, the struggle will be half won.

The Ojukwu Biafra was Igbo dream not Ijaw, Esan, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ikwerre, etc dream.

May God bless you for this & may sense fall on brainwashed ipobs

nengibo:
May God bless you for this & may sense fall on brainwashed ipobs

it is you and your kind who think that Igboland is only southest that are brainwashed!
Unless you want to tell us that ijaw land is only bayelsa,
if you think that an inch of Igboland will be lost to Nigeria be it in se or ss, then mr fisherman you are daydreaming,

Amarabae:
it is you and your kind who think that Igboland is only southest that are brainwashed!
Unless you want to tell us that ijaw land is only bayelsa,
if you think that an inch of Igboland will be lost to Nigeria be it in se or ss, then mr fisherman you are daydreaming,

I'm sorry for not also including you, "May sense fall on you Amarachi" better go to Abia state(obehie) and stop encroaching on Ndoki Ijaw land

jemir000:
but first, we have to form alliance with igbos because there is strength in numbers.. and after that, we can form our Niger Delta country.

Nobody the Igbo hater will be looking at your response to his comment that he is with you like...

nengibo:
I'm sorry for not also including you, "May sense fall on you Amarachi" better go to Abia state(obehie) and stop encroaching on Ndoki Ijaw land

That gitl from Abia State will be claiming oyigbo here upandan
She should continue hiding in a faceless forum while claiming what she's not.

nengibo:
I'm sorry for not also including you, "May sense fall on you Amarachi" better go to Abia state(obehie) and stop encroaching on Ndoki Ijaw land

dead on arrival tactics,
it cant work on me, I am Asa,not ndoki,you land grabber fisherman,
who mentioned Abia here? Oh it pains to see an oyigbo indigene proud of her Igbo ancestry?
Oh there are many of us,
cry me a river!
And did you just call Ndoki,an ijaw land?
Lols, mr nengibo drop that kalabari weed biko,

Ekinematics:
She should continue hiding in a faceless forum while claiming what she's not.

wow,so its paining you,
cry me a river, there are many of us oyigbo indigene proud of our Igbo root,
your painment blackmailing cant work on me,
once again,cry me a river
and mr ijaw man, it is obigbo,thats what we indigenes call it, the abracadabra diete spiff did during the boundary adjustment is crap,
oyigbo is just for administrative purpose,
once again cry me a river again,
your tears are tasty

Ekinematics:
That gitl from Abia State will be claiming oyigbo here upandan
She should continue hiding in a faceless forum while claiming what she's not.

No mind am, I used to think she was one of the progressive eboe but Ive found out shes just like d rest of her bush brothers

Amarabae:
dead on arrival tactics,
it cant work on me, I am Asa,not ndoki,you land grabber fisherman,
who mentioned Abia here? Oh it pains to see an oyigbo indigene proud of her Igbo ancestry?
Oh there are many of us,
cry me a river!
And did you just call Ndoki,an ijaw land?
Lols, mr nengibo drop that kalabari weed biko,

Lol triggered much?
The Aminadokiari know their ancestry, as for you obehie ppl stay in Abia state(ur own part of ukwa) and stop forming oyigbo because it has turn settlement

Amarabae:
wow,so its paining you,
cry me a river, there are many of us oyigbo indigene proud of our Igbo root,
your painment blackmailing cant work on me,
once again,cry me a river
and mr ijaw man, it is obigbo,thats what we indigenes call it, the abracadabra diete spiff did during the boundary adjustment is crap,
oyigbo is just for administrative purpose,
once again cry me a river again,
your tears are tasty

Dats a lie, no indigene calls it such, dats why they acceppted it as their official name and lga title, go back to Obehie and stop encroaching on Ndoki kiri

nengibo:
Dats a lie, no indigene calls it such, dats why they acceppted it as their official name and lga title, go back to Obehie and stop encroaching on Ndoki kiri

All this ur ranting, get u nowhere, everybody know where their land ends, it has been as such since the British arrived.

Wat we are saying is how everybody should go and be lord over their land.

Take ur land and resources and look after ur people. Let peace reign. Go and govern urself.

We dont even need to be together in Biafra, go and have ur NigerDelta republic and live in peace.

This is the stage we have reached.

cc.Amarabae.

nengibo:
Dats a lie, no indigene calls it such, dats why they acceppted it as their official name and lga title,

this statement you just made shows you are not from rivers,
I smell a bayelsa guy,
I dont have time for long argument, my joy is that I know my people and we dont have identity issue in oyigbo,
and btw mr troll,oyigbo is the official name but obigbo is the popular name we indigenes call it,
if you are indeed a rivers guy ,you should know that,troll,
btw you keep mentioning ndoki,
are you high on zobo?
Asa/ndoki are united, keep off landgrabbers,
coconut fall on your head

nengibo:
Lol triggered much?
The Aminadokiari know their ancestry,

aminadokiari ke, aishadokari ko,
stop disgracing yourself,
Ndokis dont associate in any ijaw group neither are they ijaws you troll,
yes there were ijaw settlers in ndoki,the same your forefathers settled in gelegele benin land and ibeno ibibioland,
lack of land is the major cause,
Ndokis are migrants from Ngwa and Isu hinterlands into their present location,
some migrated up to opobo,
so trying to think of ijawnising Ndoki is dead on arrival,
it is Landgrabbing which you guys are notorious for in Nigeria,
Am waiting for your more trolling,mr troll

Amarabae:
aminadokiari ke, aishadokari ko,
stop disgracing yourself,
Ndokis dont associate in any ijaw group neither are they ijaws you troll,
yes there were ijaw settlers in ndoki,the same your forefathers settled in gelegele benin land and ibeno ibibioland,
lack of land is the major cause,
Ndokis are migrants from Ngwa and Isu hinterlands into their present location,
some migrated up to opobo,
so trying to think of ijawnising Ndoki is dead on arrival,
it is Landgrabbing which you guys are notorious for in Nigeria,
Am waiting for your more trolling,mr troll

All these groups u have mentioned you are not indigenous to any of them so you are not in any position to make such spurious claims, seconly mrs Obehie claiming oyigbo, the entire Ndoki Clan has Ijaw ancestry, any other person in oyigbo is a settler including the Asa ppl, who are migrants from Across Abia state. Capiche

nengibo:
All these groups u have mentioned you are not indigenous to any of them so you are not in any position to make such spurious claims, seconly mrs Obehie claiming oyigbo, the entire Ndoki Clan has Ijaw ancestry, any other person in oyigbo is a settler including the Asa ppl, who are migrants from Across Abia state. Capiche

hahahahaha, the old boring ijaw tactics,
sorry dear,its outdated,
whenever they meet an oyigbo indigene without identity crisis,they try to blackmail you with "you are not rivers,you are from Abia"
sorry, the reverse psychology is dead on arrival and cant work on me,
so dear,stop sweating, we know the key popular indigenous families in oyigbo and my family is one of them,
so mr landgrabber, oyigbo is not gelegele you and benin people are fighting over,
we know ourselves, and there is no "ijaw" among us,
deal with it or cry me a river