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Empiree:
Just finished listening to this. Raise some point but definitely wong on this genotype stuff. It has nothing to do with what he think. Funny enough he said, blood is blood. No difference. Thats truth from another percepective but in this context?. No. If blood is blood, why do medical practitioners wear gloves when treating patients?. Isn't this meant to avoid contact with infections. He closed his door on ijtihad. Unfortunately though, i cant defend Alaro. He is also critical of some practices like tesuba. So they aint different from my opinion. I guess Ustaz Alaro is not Salafi enough for him.

Funny the man said genotype is like "ka ma wo ise" (fortunetelling). They have a lot to learn but they arent ready for that.

Well, from online dictionary, definition of Jabata comes from "Jabato" (adjective) which means 'brave'. Its noun means YOUNG & BOAR daredevil. So to elaborate, Jabata comes from Jabato a slang in spain which means tough guy, young wild boar, rude, ill-tempered.

Sound like perfect descriptions

Nawao empiree this your etymology of JABATA got me laughing , perhaps the name is really telling on him. You are really digging deep these days.

They will compare many things with "BAD" thing through their defective reasoning to buttress their points, the result is always CATASTROPHIC. This how they came about SUICIDE BOMBING that has now become a NORM in their school of taught. Do you watch the recent clips of sinnai in Egypt where such move was curtailed by a brave soldier tank?

I know they will one day realize their unnecessary obsession of this matters. That's remind the confession of IMAM GHAZALI before he took the path of self purification.

May Allah GUIDE us. ameen

AlBaqir:
# Empir.ee, blood is not blood o. If someone else blood is given to you and there is no compatibility, one will die ni o.

Sickle cell anaemia patient's blood cells are deformed cells compare to regular oval shape cells.

# So, imagine if an AS marry an AS.

I understand this. "blood is blood" here means regardless of color or nationality. Thats what i meant not what Jabata deputy was saying.

# Then, Jabata and his crew do not believe in transmittable diseases. He had a lecture on this about Ebola. According to him there is nothing called, "àkóràn". You believe in it, you become a kafir. So, nothing like transmittable diseases in/via blood.

He should get infected by HIV positive patient to bring his brain to order.

# 99% of Jabata's lectures is about " rodu, rodu, rodu" and abusing and calling of names will start from first minute till the end ni. So, all that dictionary meaning suit him perfectly. Although he's not Yoruba Ilorin. He's Fulanian. The word "Jabata" is Fulanian.

Oh, woow. He is not a full blown Yoruba. Didnt know this.

@ Empire may ALLAH continue to increase you in knowledge and forgive us all our short coming and above all count us among the people of the paradise. I av been a passive member of the this forum for many years, and i av always appreciate ur knowledge and how much you defend the true essence of islam and how much u have defended the awliya of Allah againt those who always insult them out of ignorance.May Allah defend you againt ur foes and enemy.

There is this ultra-dangerous fatwā of Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah. If a non-Salafī Muslim – such as a Ṣūfī or a Shī’ī – decides not to openly practise his faith out of fear, he must be killed even if he repents.


The Shaykh in his Majmū’ al-Fatāwā, vol. 28, p. 555, declares:

http://islamport.com/d/3/tym/1/40/377.html
"With regards to the killing of someone who publicly displays Islām and hides his kufr, and this is the hypocrite whom the jurists call the zindīq, the majority of the jurists are of the opinion that he must be killed even if he repents.
This was the view of Mālik, Aḥmad in the most apparent of the two reports from him, one of the two opinions in the madhhab of Abū Ḥanīfah, and al-Shāfi’ī. Whichever of them is a caller to their misguidance, and his evil cannot be stopped except by killing him, he should be killed too, even if he publicly repents, and even if he is not declared a kāfir, like the Rāfiḍī Imāms who mislead the people, as the Muslims killed Ghīlān al-Qadrī, al-Ja’d b. Dirham and similar other people among the callers. This liar must be killed unconditionally "


# I still cannot understand why AhluSunnah people celebrate this sheik but abuse those (e.g Jabata) who preach or preaching exactly the view of this Sheik?! That's hypocrisy.

MR KAFEER ALBAQIR, please what proof did ibn taymiyyah bring to support his fatwa? . . if you cant tell us the proof, then forget it. , we muslims dont just f0llow our scholars fatwa unless they bring us proof fr0m quran and hadith

AhluSunnah:
MR KAFEER ALBAQIR, please what proof did ibn taymiyyah bring to support his fatwa? . . if you cant tell us the proof, then forget it. , we muslims dont just f0llow our scholars fatwa unless they bring us proof fr0m quran and hadith

What right do you have to Takafir a Muslim, why call Albaqir Kafeer?

Raintaker:
What right do you have to Takafir a Muslim, why call Albaqir Kafeer?

BECAUSE HE IS A SHITE. .LIKE ZAKYZAKY. . OR SHIA ARE MUSLIM? OR A SHITE CALLING PEOPLE TO BECOME A SHIA MEMBER A MUSLIM? JUDGE WITH QURAN AND HADITH

ikupakuti:
^^^

Good!

#Did the holy prophet (saw) claimed what that sahaba did is bid‘a or is it just your own understanding ? Any back-up from kitab & sunnah to substantiate the accuracy of this your understanding as the definition of bid‘a ?

#Can you bring a reference where the holy prophet (saw) called that type of act bid‘a ?

#Is this the type of proof the scholars quoted by @Newnas banked on ? Any reference to that from them ?

#Mind you, thats also a sahaba (salaf), had he done that after the demise of the holy prophet (saw), other sahabas & taab‘in might have emulated him & so on down the line, I hope you get where I driving @ ?

#So, this correction from the Nabi (saw) was it out of compassion to the sahaba or to sever a bid‘a act ? Any Proof ?

this is gold. I perfectly get this. Why did I miss this to begin with

ikupakuti:
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#S. UTHMAN (ra) ‘innovated‘ the call to prayer on friday @ the begining of zuhr.

https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/4

#al-ASQALANI reported in fathul bari that the grandsons of the NABI (saw), abdullahi ibn zubair, & some other sahaba do greet the 4 side of the kaaba as opposed to the customary two YEMENI greeted by the NABI (saw).

# S. UMAR(ra) had wanted to limit dowry to 400 silver coins for the women during his reign, when a woman challenged him by reciting Q4:20, he withdrew immediately.

#He also incorporated the addition of ‘PRAYER IS BETTER THAN SLEEP‘ in the adhan for subh prayer.

#ANAS ibn MALIK (ra) invented a different formulea of TALBIYYAH during tawaf.

#BILAL (ra) ‘innovated‘ the prayer after ablution that made his footstep to be heard by NABI (saw) in jannah, what an ‘innovation‘ !

#S. ABUBAKAR (ra) ‘innovated‘ the MUSHAF!

#S. UMAR(ra) treated 3 pronounciation on divorce as 1.

https://sunnah.com/muslim/9

#KHUBAUB IBN ADI (ra) ‘innovated‘ the prayer of two rakhat before death.

#ibn UMAR (ra) made addition to ATTASHOOD in prayer (abu DAWUD)

& THE RELIGION IS COMPLETE!!!

AbuUthaymeen is yet to make takfeer of these sahaba.

Empiree:
AbuUthaymeen is yet to make takfeer of these sahaba.

LIES

Empiree:
AbuUthaymeen is yet to make takfeer of these sahaba.

QUOTE THOSE HADITHS AND PASTE IT HERE. . .SO THAT I CAN BE SURE UR CLAIMS ARE TRUE

AbuUthaymeen:
QUOTE THOSE HADITHS AND PASTE IT HERE. . .SO THAT I CAN BE SURE UR CLAIMS ARE TRUE

that's btw you and ikupakuti. Go through his posts here to see the context he's talking

Empiree:
that's btw you and ikupakuti. Go through his posts here to see the context he's talking

THERE IS CHAPTER OF ADHAN, MARRIAGE, HAJJ,. in hadith bukhari. i D0nt kn0w what is mushaf. . .and umar made mistake with 3 talaq. .s0me sahabahs made fatwa for people that he made mistake. .2 rakat before death has n0 pr0of.. just mistake. .cP UMAR DIDNT ADD TO TASHAOOD. RASUL EXPLAINED IT ALL. . GO READ CHAPTER OF SALAT IN BUKHARI HADITH. . @ikupati ..Sahabahs did bida, but they are n0t KAFIR..(due to mistake) . . .they are all mubashar jahnah. .they fought h0ly war. . .that alone is en0ugh for them. . beside, they have no sin. .kw

AbuUthaymeen:
THERE IS CHAPTER OF ADHAN, MARRIAGE, HAJJ,. in hadith bukhari. i D0nt kn0w what is mushaf. . .and umar made mistake with 3 talaq. .s0me sahabahs made fatwa for people that he made mistake. .2 rakat before death has n0 pr0of.. just mistake. .cP UMAR DIDNT ADD TO TASHAOOD. RASUL EXPLAINED IT ALL. . GO READ CHAPTER OF SALAT IN BUKHARI HADITH. . @ikupati ..Sahabahs did bida, but they are n0t KAFIR..(due to mistake) . . .they are all mubashar jahnah. .they fought h0ly war. . .that alone is en0ugh for them. . beside, they have no sin. .kw

This is not scholarly writeup. And you aren't supposed to direct this at me

Empiree:
This is not scholarly writeup. And you aren't supposed to direct this at me

I directed him to hadiths on what he said was sahabah bida. . scholars take pr0of fr0m quran and hadiths na..¿

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AbuUthaymeen:
THERE IS CHAPTER OF ADHAN,

# Imam Malik documents:

Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that the
muadhdhin came to Umar ibn al-Khattab to call him to the
subh prayer and found him sleeping, so he said, "Prayer is better than sleep,"and Umar ordered him to put that in the adhan for subh.

Sunnah.com reference : Book 3, Hadith 8
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 3, Hadith 8
Arabic reference : Book 3, Hadith 154
https://sunnah.com/malik/3


# Second, Umar ibn al-Khattab REMOVED after the demise
of the prophet during his khilafah, " hayya ala khairil amal
(hasten to the best of deeds) " after "hayya alal falah".
That phrase was part of original adhan and iqama at the
time of the prophet as referenced by: {al-Musannaf of Ibn Abi Shaybah, vol. 2, p.345, #2253; al-Muhalla of Ibn Hazm, vol. 3, p.120; Nayl ul- Awtar of Muhammad ash-Shawkani, vol. 3, p.216 - 218}.

AhluSunnah, were those " mistakes or Bid'ah" by Umar?
# Bilal (R) by the command of Nabi (S) recited Adhan at least 5 times a day for almost 23 years and Umar heard it 5 times a day for at least 15/17 years (due to his lateness of becoming a Muslim) yet he changed the form of Adhan to the fact that 90% of Muslim follow him till date.

AbuUthaymeen:
and umar made mistake with 3 talaq. .s0me sahabahs made fatwa for people that he made mistake. .

# Mistake? So, there were no single divorce process witnessed by Umar during his 15/17 years of companionship with the Prophet?

# Qur'an talks about Divorce and Nabi practiced it. Where did Umar conjured up his "Mistake"? If you said it was mistake, then obviously he did not care about what Qur'an and Sunnah say on Talaq.


# When Umar made such "mistake", there were no single Sahabi that can correct him to the fact that people continued to practice that " mistake" even till date?

AbuUthaymeen:
..Sahabahs did bida, but they are n0t KAFIR..(due to mistake) . . .

# So, you have divided "Bid'ah" into (1.) KUFR Bid'ah and (2). Mistake Bid'ah, without a single dalil? The "Mistake Bid'ah" will not lead to hell fire?


# Unfortunately, Nabi condemned some of his Sahabah into hell fire because they engaged in Bid'ah after him, and apostatised. Hadith al-hawd is a Mutawattir Hadith. Here's a glimpse according to Sahih Bukhari:

'The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said: "You
will be resurrected bare-footed, Unclad and uncircumcised." Then he recited:{As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it: a promise We have undertaken. Truly, We shall do it} [21:104]. He continued: "The first to be dressed will be Ibrahim. Then, some of my SAHABAH will be taken towards the Right side AND (some) TOWARDS THE LEFT SIDE. So, I will say: 'My Sahabah! It will be said, 'THEY HAD BEEN APOSTATES SINCE YOU LEFT THEM..."


# Quran gives the description of people of the Left side thus:
And Those who disbelieved in Our verses, they will be Companions of the Left Hand. The Fire will be shut over them." Qur'an 90: 19-20


# An as Ibn Malik also reported this Hadith as documented by Imam Muslim:

"The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, "Some persons
from amongst those who kept me company will meet me at the Lake-fount. I will see them, and they will be presented to me. Then, they will be forced away from me. I will say: 'O my Lord, my Sahabah! My Sahabah.' It will be said to me: 'You do not know what they INNOVATED after you.'"

# So, there is no hanky panky here, all "Bid'atic" sahabah that did not repent from those "KUFR" will end up in Hell fire.

AbuUthaymeen:
they are all mubashar jahnah. .they fought h0ly war. . .that alone is en0ugh for them. . beside, they have no sin. .kw

# Don't you believe anymore in your Hadith on Qadar ni that a person who hell fire has been destined for even if he continue to perform paradise-bound good deeds, before he dies he will revert to evil deeds and end up in hell fire?

* If by your fairy tale excuse that since sahabah fought holy war, they will enter Jannah; unfortunately, before some of them died, they apostatised, and drowned in first class Bid'ah. Were that not sure certificate to hell fire?

AbuUthaymeen:
THERE IS CHAPTER OF ADHAN, MARRIAGE, HAJJ,. in hadith bukhari. i D0nt kn0w what is mushaf. . .and umar made mistake with 3 talaq. .s0me sahabahs made fatwa for people that he made mistake. .2 rakat before death has n0 pr0of.. just mistake. .cP UMAR DIDNT ADD TO TASHAOOD. RASUL EXPLAINED IT ALL. . GO READ CHAPTER OF SALAT IN BUKHARI HADITH. . @ikupati ..Sahabahs did bida, but they are n0t KAFIR..(due to mistake) . . .they are all mubashar jahnah. .they fought h0ly war. . .that alone is en0ugh for them. . beside, they have no sin. .kw

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