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Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Nobody: 3:19pm On Sep 12, 2017
Note that the Catholic Church only goes for dissolution of marriage as discussed above if and only if the offended party says he/she cannot manage or live with the situation

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Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Yameater(m): 3:26pm On Sep 12, 2017
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Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by DECOtech(m): 3:29pm On Sep 12, 2017
I agree with him
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by IamEmem(m): 3:33pm On Sep 12, 2017
The apostle is very correct on this issue.
Any marriage built on lies and deceit is considered null and void even in the eyes of the law.
Those bashing the apostle will do worse if they find themselves in a similar situation.

#IamEmem.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by oruma19: 3:55pm On Sep 12, 2017
LifestyleTonite:
Apostle Johnson Suleman of Omega Fire Ministries has given reason why a marriage can be dissolved.

He says that lies are one of the reasons why a marriage can be dissolved.

He gave instances of a man who kept his impotent status away from a lady before they got married, and a lady who didn’t disclose her womb-less condition to her man before marriage. He claims a partner can file for divorce in the light of such an issue.

As a man who claims to be an Apostle of Jesus Christ, his words contradict those of Our Lord and Saviour.



In the video, Apostle Johnson Suleman claims he was speaking as a real man, not a religious man who would rather bear to remain with such a partner instead of leaving.

The Apostle had more to say in the video below.

https://www.wotzup.ng/apostle-johnson-suleman-reason-marriage/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-O3oHFJpfI&feature=youtu.be
This is one of the few pastors that are very real. He has said the truth and there is no iota of falsehood in what he has just said. If u lie to get married, u must face the consequences. Dissolotion instanta. Which person pikin u wan use ur lie lie put for bondage?
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Nobody: 4:18pm On Sep 12, 2017
Chascop:

you need Jesus
Amen
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Inricash(m): 4:23pm On Sep 12, 2017
Any marriage based on lie is no marriage ...

And an unconsummated marriage ain't one either...

So no new gist
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Oklahomaprof: 4:26pm On Sep 12, 2017
You people should stop castigating genuine men of God. Apostle Suleman is real pls. Everybody must give account of his/her self to God soonest.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by lionson(m): 4:26pm On Sep 12, 2017
nefertitiram:
A marriage based on lies can be annulled, it is not called a divorce but an annulment, based on the premise of "it never happened in the first place" because it was built on lies and deception. The catholic church also annuls such marriages. I know this because I married in a catholic church.
There are two ways to legally end a marriage - annulment and divorce. An annulment is a legal procedure which cancels a marriage between a man and a woman. Annulling a marriage is as though it is completely erased - legally, it declares that the marriage never technically existed and was never valid. So if a man or a woman lies about his or fertility or HIV or mental status, and the spouse finds out, the marriage is rendered invalid and can be dissolved almost instantly. Like it never happened.

As for divorce, this doesn't happen in the church, only in the law court. The church can encourage separation and sue for peace esp in issues of domestic violence but divorce cannot happen. And if you chose to separate from your partner, you must remain unmarried, until death do you part.


So Apostle suleiman is correct in this case
You're right! And I totally agree.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by PapiAlecto(m): 4:39pm On Sep 12, 2017
"For many will say: did we not prophesy in your name? Expell Demon in your name? Do many wonderful works in your name? But Jesus will Respond....I NEVER KNEW YOU. GET AWAY FROM ME. YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS.

i'm certain he deosnt even read or knows the bible. fake

LifestyleTonite:
Apostle Johnson Suleman of Omega Fire Ministries has given reason why a marriage can be dissolved.

He says that lies are one of the reasons why a marriage can be dissolved.

He gave instances of a man who kept his impotent status away from a lady before they got married, and a lady who didn’t disclose her womb-less condition to her man before marriage. He claims a partner can file for divorce in the light of such an issue.

As a man who claims to be an Apostle of Jesus Christ, his words contradict those of Our Lord and Saviour.



In the video, Apostle Johnson Suleman claims he was speaking as a real man, not a religious man who would rather bear to remain with such a partner instead of leaving.

The Apostle had more to say in the video below.

https://www.wotzup.ng/apostle-johnson-suleman-reason-marriage/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-O3oHFJpfI&feature=youtu.be
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by somehow: 4:40pm On Sep 12, 2017
Correct based on his own assertion or based on the bible that Christianity is built on?
Daeylar:
I agree with his reason, very true
He was very correct



What kind of meme is this? It's too funny, grin grin I've been laughing since.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Nobody: 4:40pm On Sep 12, 2017
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Nobody: 4:46pm On Sep 12, 2017
Na yansh full this Mr Suleman head no be Bible verses.
You no see as him hair don "chop" finish?
From the way he talks, you go know say he no believe in miracle. That na proof say na fake, arrangee miracles he dey perform since.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by sircrabo: 4:49pm On Sep 12, 2017
There are grounds on which marriages can be dissolved and the church will approve of it. Extreme domestic violence. I.e a man who constantly beats his wife and one day pushed her down from a 2 storey building. Such a marriage shld be dissolved while she is still alive.

A man who has a child outside wedlock aand marries a woman and tells her he is not interested in having children. While you have yours, you don't want her to have hers. Such can be dissolved.

As a woman, you know you have no womb yet you hid it from the man before marriage. If he finds out, he can file for divorce or have you as a wife while he impregnate another woman outside. Except the womb got ruptured after marriage.

You mistakenly marry a man without digging deep to know his source of income. You later discover he is an armed robber or ritualist. Madam feel free to go

If the people that wrote the holy bible under the influence of the holy spirit writes everything down, the holy book won't contain all.

That's why one must look very well b4 you leap
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Nobody: 5:00pm On Sep 12, 2017
sircrabo:
There are grounds on which marriages can be dissolved and the church will approve of it. Extreme domestic violence. I.e a man who constantly beats his wife and one day pushed her down from a 2 storey building. Such a marriage shld be dissolved while she is still alive.

A man who has a child outside wedlock aand marries a woman and tells her he is not interested in having children. While you have yours, you don't want her to have hers. Such can be dissolved.

As a woman, you know you have no womb yet you hid it from the man before marriage. If he finds out, he can file for divorce or have you as a wife while he impregnate another woman outside. Except the womb got ruptured after marriage.

You mistakenly marry a man without digging deep to know his source of income. You later discover he is an armed robber or ritualist. Madam feel free to go

If the people that wrote the holy bible under the influence of the holy spirit writes everything down, the holy book won't contain all.

That's why one must look very well b4 you leap
So, you are helping them to write the rest down?
Ok, No problem. I will add them to my bible. That is, The book of sircrabo
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by BlueAngel444: 5:05pm On Sep 12, 2017
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Nobody: 5:07pm On Sep 12, 2017
9japrof:
If by dissolved, he meant divorce then the Bible is very clear on it, that the only grounds that a couple can divorce and then remarry is only adultery.

Any doing otherwise is just committing adultery.

All these fake pastors who keep swindling their sheep while carting away millions like say be rouges, twisting the word of God to suit them.


that ground for divorce is for Christians only.

Muslims have their own.

Hindus have their own.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by DangotePikin: 5:22pm On Sep 12, 2017
Smartademu:
Sorry sir, but that is not what Jesus said o. According to Him u can only divorce on ground of adultery and both of them must remain single until one of them dies, then the other can remarry. Lobatan, NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION!
that is your interpretation of scripture, it isn't what was written. Others may interpret the verse differently. Everybody to his own, doesn't mean either is wrong.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by BalogunIdowu(m): 5:34pm On Sep 12, 2017
In islam, divorce is not encourageD. it is disliked but allowed...
There's no big deal, if both parties can live in peace
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Yameater(m): 5:44pm On Sep 12, 2017
Godsgal:
God bless you. But pls i'll like you to go thru that passage again. Our lord said 'xcept for fornication' not adultery. And fornication has to do with 2 unmarried partners. Hence, Jesus only gave room for divorce when in courtship with ur spouse & u discover he/she is cheating. So, divorce for married couple is only devil inspired regardless of the reason.

How can you divorce a person you are in courtship with?
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by starz100: 6:41pm On Sep 12, 2017
PapiAlecto:
"For many will say: did we not prophesy in your name? Expell Demon in your name? Do many wonderful works in your name? But Jesus will Respond....I NEVER KNEW YOU. GET AWAY FROM ME. YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS.

i'm certain he deosnt even read or knows the bible. fake

It says for "many". So bro, there are still genuine preachers and prophets out there, it is not all that are fake prophets after all there are those bible says are called to be prophets (see NT)
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by teshyberry(f): 6:50pm On Sep 12, 2017
owoshuyi:
That is y it is good to pray before u marry.




My dear I have a lot to tell about marriage
I served God faithfully in school,
When it was time to marry, I married a virgin @ age 24.
There's no baby yet after 3years
I just realised from test results it's not my fault at all...
It'snt this deception
Yet I'm too scared and too religious to end the marriage...
Mum is late!
Even my Popsy wants me to quit!
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by lastclaire4(f): 6:52pm On Sep 12, 2017
nefertitiram:
A marriage based on lies can be annulled, it is not called a divorce but an annulment, based on the premise of "it never happened in the first place" because it was built on lies and deception. The catholic church also annuls such marriages. I know this because I married in a catholic church.
There are two ways to legally end a marriage - annulment and divorce. An annulment is a legal procedure which cancels a marriage between a man and a woman. Annulling a marriage is as though it is completely erased - legally, it declares that the marriage never technically existed and was never valid. So if a man or a woman lies about his or fertility or HIV or mental status, and the spouse finds out, the marriage is rendered invalid and can be dissolved almost instantly. Like it never happened.

As for divorce, this doesn't happen in the church, only in the law court. The church can encourage separation and sue for peace esp in issues of domestic violence but divorce cannot happen. And if you chose to separate from your partner, you must remain unmarried, until death do you part.


So Apostle suleiman is correct in this case
You are right on this. In the first place there was no marriage cos no marriage is built on solid lies why should somebody lie abt such a thing.
Marriage can also be dissolved if a person enters marriage in want of age. At the age where you can't speak for yourself and was forced into the marriage most times 16yrs below

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Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by JesusDWay(m): 6:59pm On Sep 12, 2017
teshyberry:





My dear I have a lot to tell about marriage
I served God faithfully in school,
When it was time to marry, I married a virgin @ age 24.
There's no baby yet after 3years
I just realised from test results it's not my fault at all...
It'snt this deception
Yet I'm too scared and too religious to end the marriage...
Mum is late!
Even my Popsy wants me to quit!

Are you saying you married a virgin or you were a virgin when you married? Also, can you confidently say the man you married is a genuine born-again child of God? Also, you didn't state whether the tests showed the man you married is the one at fault, cuz the fact that you are not the one with the problem doesn't mean there's a problem with him too, it happens at times like that that both parties are fine. Moreover, even if the tests show he is the one with a problem, are you sure he can by any chance know his condition before asking you to marry him, cuz thats the only time we can say he deceived you. Finally till i get your response, it is after 3years of marriage that you can start trying to find out what the exact issue is. I used to think its one year but a friend's wife who is a lab scientist told me its 3years so,there's still hope.

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Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Godsgal(f): 7:08pm On Sep 12, 2017
TheVictorious:


You don't think the vows they swore was false. Pls put me through, just asking! And if the vow was false, doesn't that mean the marriage never even existed in the first place
pls first of all, i'll like to know the content of the vow. Is the vow subjected to certain conditions that may occur or is it not laced with 'for better for worse'? It is believd that u made all ur findings during courtship so u are binded legally & religiously without any regard for supposed lies. U both swore to an oath 'for better for worse' in a church & that's no falsehood. U agreed to bear every consequence. May God help us.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by God2man(m): 7:30pm On Sep 12, 2017
Then many marriages will break because they are built on lies.

Above all, love cover multitude of sins.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by teshyberry(f): 7:41pm On Sep 12, 2017
JesusDWay:


Are you saying you married a virgin or you were a virgin when you married? Also, can you confidently say the man you married is a genuine born-again child of God? Also, you didn't state whether the tests showed the man you married is the one at fault, cuz the fact that you are not the one with the problem doesn't mean there's a problem with him too, it happens at times like that that both parties are fine. Moreover, even if the
tests show he is the one with a problem, are you sure he can by any chance know his condition before asking you to marry him, cuz thats the only time we can say he deceived you. Finally till i get your response, it is after 3years of marriage that you can start trying to find out what the exact issue is. I used to think its one year but a friend's wife who is a lab scientist told me its 3years so,there's still hope.

My dear I hear you.
U know time and chance happeneth to them all, so I 'guess' time will fix this 1 way or the other! (I smell deception! ! Not 1 of his family asking hw far or even worrying! )
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Nauttyprof(m): 7:42pm On Sep 12, 2017
nefertitiram:
A marriage based on lies can be annulled, it is not called a divorce but an annulment, based on the premise of "it never happened in the first place" because it was built on lies and deception. The catholic church also annuls such marriages. I know this because I married in a catholic church.
There are two ways to legally end a marriage - annulment and divorce. An annulment is a legal procedure which cancels a marriage between a man and a woman. Annulling a marriage is as though it is completely erased - legally, it declares that the marriage never technically existed and was never valid. So if a man or a woman lies about his or fertility or HIV or mental status, and the spouse finds out, the marriage is rendered invalid and can be dissolved almost instantly. Like it never happened.

As for divorce, this doesn't happen in the church, only in the law court. The church can encourage separation and sue for peace esp in issues of domestic violence but divorce cannot happen. And if you chose to separate from your partner, you must remain unmarried, until death do you part.


So Apostle Suleiman is correct in this case

This is a nice comment from you. Some people are just too hasty in commenting because of the person who said this and things known about him.

The marriage never existed in the first place. A case of a lady without vagina who never opened up on this till the man discovered on wedding night. This union never existed as it was done on deception.

Thanks for this good contribution of yours.

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Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by gr8tone: 10:39pm On Sep 12, 2017
Smartademu:
Sorry sir, but that is not what Jesus said o. According to Him u can only divorce on ground of adultery and both of them must remain single until one of them dies, then the other can remarry. Lobatan, NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION!
which portion of the Bible?
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by Topgainer: 10:40pm On Sep 12, 2017
Smartademu:
Sorry sir, but that is not what Jesus said o. According to Him both of them must remain single until one of them dies, then the other can remarry. Lobatan, NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION!
The bold is According to Apostle Paul and it is one of his many personal opinions.
Jesus permitted divorce and remarry (Matthew 19:9) in situations of Adultery not that it is not forgiveable but it is difficult to endure an unrepentant philanderer. He frowned at the flimsy excuse men give in sending away their wives which was so common in Israel at the time.
When you look at that Adultery critically you will understand that many subsets are there. Most men that come back rejecting their wive's food, touch and conjugal meetings; men who return home to beat up their wives regularly have mistresses outside.
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by udumosam23(m): 10:47pm On Sep 12, 2017
nefertitiram:
A marriage based on lies can be annulled, it is not called a divorce but an annulment, based on the premise of "it never happened in the first place" because it was built on lies and deception. The catholic church also annuls such marriages. I know this because I married in a catholic church.
There are two ways to legally end a marriage - annulment and divorce. An annulment is a legal procedure which cancels a marriage between a man and a woman. Annulling a marriage is as though it is completely erased - legally, it declares that the marriage never technically existed and was never valid. So if a man or a woman lies about his or fertility or HIV or mental status, and the spouse finds out, the marriage is rendered invalid and can be dissolved almost instantly. Like it never happened.

As for divorce, this doesn't happen in the church, only in the law court. The church can encourage separation and sue for peace esp in issues of domestic violence but divorce cannot happen. And if you chose to separate from your partner, you must remain unmarried, until death do you part.


So Apostle suleiman is correct in this case


I'm learning, seriously learning
Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman: "Why A Marriage Can Be Dissolved" (VIDEO) by nefertitiram: 11:21pm On Sep 12, 2017
teshyberry:





My dear I have a lot to tell about marriage
I served God faithfully in school,
When it was time to marry, I married a virgin @ age 24.
There's no baby yet after 3years
I just realised from test results it's not my fault at all...
It'snt this deception
Yet I'm too scared and too religious to end the marriage...
Mum is late!
Even my Popsy wants me to quit!

Why will you end the marriage because no child yet? Children are gifts from God and fruits of marriage. Did you marry just because to bear kids?
Why exactly did you get married? Is hubby having fertility issues? Did he know before marriage and did he hide it from you? Have you seen a doctor? Your hubby may not be happy at the result, you need to stand by him and reassure him. You should not resent him now... Esp if it came as a shock to him as well. I can imagine how deflated his ego and manhood may be right now, don't make it worse for him. There are many treatments for male fertility issues. Worst case, there is ivf and icsi. Other options are donor sperm. As long as both of you are in agreement. I see adverts all the time for surrogates, even people are willing to pay for donor eggs. So kini big deal? But if your hubby knew that he had sperm issues before marriage and refused to tell you, then you have a right to request annulment, as it is deception. But if he didn't know, it will nor be fair of you to abandon him now.. It has only been 3 years...

We waited 4 years before we started having kids, and the issue was with me, but my man was supportive all the way.

Once we saw a doc who said he has done all the treatments, we should go and do IVF, I felt so downcast... My hubby asked the doctor "does she have a womb?" The doc said yes, the womb is fine. My hubby responded, that's all we need to know, when the time comes, we will have kids. And we decided not to talk about babies and fertility in our home again. Infact one of my daughter's names means "There is Time for Everything"

Within 6mths, without anxiety and trying desperately, we conceived twins, even though they came prematurely and didn't survive, then conceived another girl who was born 10/11mths after. The doctors said it wouldn't come naturally... God confused them. The same doctor said it was as a result of all the fertility treatments we had been using over the years, all of a sudden, I am over fertile! I laughed in Swahili!

Like I said before, it is all about agreement. Once both of you agree and pray in agreement, God will answer. No need for blame games, it doesn't help. Marriage is for better for worse. Children will come when the time comes.

The beautiful thing about my situation was that I had a past, and he was aware of the past before we went ahead, so it was easy to support me. Now, if I had hidden that part of my life, and it came out to haunt us later, then he had every right to request annulment based on deception.

Even things like being a school dropout and claiming to be a graduate is a big deception. Even as big as lying about fertility issues.

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