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Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Rapture4real(m): 10:29pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
I've been in your shoe even with tougher demand.You need the wisdom of God.Some are to suck you dry and go to another place.Prayerfully select those worth being helped that will be useful to you latter and gradually ignore those who are hit and run.Start teaching and Bible Study on the need for them to be responsible for themselves and give to advance the church.Watch their response. Know that it is God who brings people to his church, no amount of charitable works will make them stay.Those ministries flaunting giving on TV did not start like that.They begin to do that after they havr plenty of turnover and leftover.Pray about it for God's wisdom. 1 Like |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by TheEminentLaity: 10:30pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Then, what is the church for... to collect everyone's hard earned money, even the poorest? |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Nobody: 10:32pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Lol pastor don't be demoralized. It can be like that sometimes. From what u be said it is clear you are talking about rccg. You need to pack everyone in that church together and let them know the financial status of the church. Do not be weary, if they had they wouldn't beg. This experience would serve you well in your ministerial career. Finally look up to God to help you sir. 1 Like |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Ajewealth123(m): 10:32pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Empower them, teach them how to fish. Since it is a new site, there are lots of virgin lands there I presume, consult with a good agricultural person, let him or her put you through then let everyone start farming .seedlings shouldn't cost much, invest in plants which bring yield in about 2-3 to 4 months. Then let everybody pray with believe for a bountiful harvest. Then watch God perform miracle that way, there will be foods and there will be proceed |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by pastoray(m): 10:36pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Frenchfriez:
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Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by babalonimi: 10:37pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Nairaland s nt holy spirit. He ll teach u all things including this. |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Ajewealth123(m): 10:37pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
birdsview:i pity your life seems you don't even have one. You want to joke with your life right? You believe everything is a joke and you can talk anyhow right? The Holy Spirit You better be careful Matthew 12:31-32 says, "And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." 1 Like |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by aboyaji(m): 10:38pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
I just don't want to say anything about churches for now. I no wan vex. |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Standing5(m): 10:39pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Frenchfriez:Be mature now . . . 1 Like |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by ideologies(m): 10:43pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Activa:there is nothing good about that. If the members at HQ are also doing the same and other branches too, where will the HQ get money to give everyone |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Antoeni(m): 10:45pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
But you are their G O .do they call you papa and ur Wife Mama for nothing, abeg show Dem love ,sebi God called you,cry to him, |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by ideologies(m): 10:48pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
kennybabs1980: It is well, your members are not rooted in God's word and if this continues most of them will turn lazy. It happened in the early church, when churches used to share food, some will stop working and Wait for free food. You need to spend more time with the Holy spirit, he will guide and counsel you, but for me your people are not matured in Christ, they are still babes feeding on milk, feed them with bones of God's word. 1 Like |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by davididado: 10:48pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
and u think this is d best place for such?..you are a pastor for crying out loud |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by translux(m): 10:51pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Youngman you are not yet mature in the work of the ministry, you cant get a good advice on this sinful platform, imagine someone that just commited fornication advising you! thats terrible, pls seek God's counsel and teach your congregation on how to be givers than brggars 1 Like |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by XaintJoel20: 10:51pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
pastoray: You nailed it... OP needs to grow up. |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Nobody: 10:53pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Bro, I know the pentecostal church you are talking about. As a pastor, I understand your plight but nobody can help except God. The name of the Church with Hqtrs in Lagos has become a brand. People coming only see themselves coming to the brand name and not careful about the survival of the local church , they believed the church is one irrespective of location. In Lagos, people understand, they know those parishes that are rich, they can quickly relocate there. That is why they don't want various camps that belong to all the pentecostal churches to become refugee camps by driving squatters away. In recession , when you do evangelism, there is the probability of getting high number of people who come to church for salvation from poverty rather than from sin. You must also nurture your new convert, the only way you can nurture an hungry man is by feeding him first. |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by birdsview(m): 10:54pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Ajewealth123:I modified my comment |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Vutseck(m): 11:00pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Nobody: 11:02pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
ideologies: You are not saying the truth. Holy Spirit will only attract men of substance that will help his ministry in Jesus Name. In this present day, biblical quotation has no meaning to poverty under recession for a church located in rural community. Majority (90%)are children, 10% adult, mind you not all the adults are married, so the children belong to about 5 or more percentage of the church population. When you see women bringing their children to various camps for feeding & shelter you will understand survival only listen to solution. Holy Spirit will enlarge the church & bring men that will assist the parish in Jesus Name |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Deicide: 11:13pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Ajewealth123:Not everone shares the same mythical believes as you so you can save this poo 4 the Dogs. Is it not the xame holy-spirit that raped mary? what is holy about that? |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by GetMeRight: 11:14pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
I started pastoring a small parish of a big Pentecostal church in Akure in 2012. Our parent church don't get involved in funding the small parish, we are the one who returns our tithes and offerings to the national headquarters every month. My question is that, what is the big parent or na headquarters doing with all the billions of naira? Even your own branch, they couldn't help build! And they wouldn't let you use the little amount realised. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by GetMeRight: 11:16pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Deicide:Chai! |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Nobody: 11:16pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Deicide: May the Lord have mercy on you. |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by mark2sunny(m): 11:17pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Are you called to the office of a pastor? If not sure, seek spiritual direction to know your area your off calling. That where you will not struggle. And if you are sure you are called to this office, then seek the face of the one who sent you He knows the challenges ahead and the ones President. Go to Him for all the stools you need to function. Frustration in ministry is an evidence of low spiritual preparation. Seek your God. Seek the God who sent you there. There has to be a reason you are there at such a time. And please never ever complain. Ministry work or pastoral work isn't easy. One victory or fulfilment of ministry opens doors for greater grace and favour. May the God of all grace and comfort guide you 1 Like |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Deicide: 11:27pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
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Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Johnrake69: 11:32pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
EponOjuku: That is the problem with the church of today. Every local assembly they set up is a profit centre. It's really worthless devoting to a local assembly cos you're just building another man's business |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by InvertedHammer: 11:34pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
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Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Johnrake69: 11:37pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Dididrumz: It's a common practice in every Pentecostal church in Nigeria. Some require that a local assembly remit about 85% of any money generated. Local assemblies are profit centres |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by MadCow1: 11:38pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
kennybabs1980: I wonder if you also feel this upset when you take money from them (multiple times) every week. When you make promises based on faith that their standard of life will improve if they sow a seed and yet never follow up to find out of your promises to them were ever fulfilled. I quite frankly don't see the purpose a church serves (mosques and other religious institutions included). All you do is sell false hope based on nothing. If these people are coming to you for help maybe that's because the hope you sold them did not pan out. No disrespect intended Mr. Pastor Sir but maybe you should pray to God to send down manna from heaven cos the people are hungry. 1 Like |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by Johnrake69: 11:58pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Standing5: The catholics and Anglicans did it with their missionary schools. Is the church supposed to have bank accounts running into billions? When majority of the members are poor. Who is the church? Our men of God prefer to invest in church buildings than the members of the body of christ whom Christ died for. What the young man is complaining of is that there is no profit being made from the local assembly because that is the number priority. If there is sincerity on the part of the leaders of today's churches. Surpluses from some branches should be used to supplement others but that's unthinkable. If the wicked world governments can practice that, I wonder how hard it can be for our religious leaders who are meant to be selfless. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by bedspread: 12:08am On Sep 15, 2017 |
My brother, 2 THINGS 1. Inform the church of the true state of things on ground... Fiance etc 2. Get a welfare department that can handle things as dt.... your duty is evangelist and interceding for members well being and new members |
Re: Demands For Money And Other Things By Worshippers In My Local Church by bedspread: 12:10am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Johnrake69:GOD'S BUSINESS you Call another man? |
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