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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 12:53am On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:
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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 12:55am On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65 Lol thanks for posting pictures.Too bad you didn't post facts to back up claims about viable and non viable countries based on population density. Anyway follow me IG if you like my photos so much. 2 Likes |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by ademasta(m): 6:03am On Sep 24, 2017 |
Hmmm |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Bari22: 9:12am On Sep 24, 2017 |
oladeebo: No wonder they grab some peoples land |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by starkid1996(m): 9:17am On Sep 24, 2017 |
BALLOSKI:Conduct another census deviod of fraud |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by BALLOSKI: 9:19am On Sep 24, 2017 |
starkid1996:I say it again, you're not up to. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by oladeebo: 9:52am On Sep 24, 2017 |
Bari22:correct of you. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Totti9(m): 10:32am On Sep 24, 2017 |
TimFisher:it scares them to bone marrow each time they heard about Biafra referendum 1 Like |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by vicadex07(m): 3:25pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k: Dude is simply saying biafra will be overpopulated when actualized which can be disastrous. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 3:34pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
vicadex07: Wrong try reading his post before trying to defend him. Don't waste you time on a guy that can't do proper research on his claims. He main point was on population density making some nations unviable. His theory was garbage from the start. That why he shut up after I told him about Singapore history independence and population density. All which blow his dumb theory out if water. moninuola65: moninuola65: |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 5:13pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:Are you the organizer of samba in Brazil? are you the ring leader of terrorist ipob rally in Brazil? Or the UN headquarter had been sifted to Brazil now? ok, your arogant and anger can't change ipob of been proscribed and declared terrorist organization. I think that is enough for you to manage as ipob bigwig! manage that before you come and tackle the overpopuated of igbo nation. 400/km2 to be consider a UN secession candidate! good luck dude. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 5:18pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65: Lol who told you I support IPOB. Man ur such a clown. Instead of you to find proof to back claims your screen shot my photo and go tangents about unrelated matters. This is completely asinine. Your rebuttals are pathetic because you don't have mental capacity for this debate. Fun Fact: Venice wishes to secede from Italy and they have population density of 670km^2. moninuola65 don't mistake my criticism of your baseless postulations as me support your enemy. I just think your mentally inept theory terrible. It's lacks any critical thinking hence why it was so easy to comeback with proof. It's also why you keep moving subject to deflect away from that number. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 6:01pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:asinine; rebuttals pathetic; mental capacity. you need to learn to be civil! when did you give Venice independence? Why population had become a world dilemma on world management? why the existing nation were being facing the challenges of urbanization? why all these population reform programs world wide? Biafra proposed nation: 1Km2 = 1000m2 1000/400m2 = 2.5m2 means if biafra country is granted today, every biafran is entitle to 2.5m2 of piece of land, not up-to one room. what a nation? How can a new born nation manage this? people need to be reason like human being! in 5/10 years to come what will become biafra land? Three things matter most in life; i. Knowledge ii. Traveling iii. Age |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 6:05pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65: I said wishes to succeed try reading better. Maybe I should have boldest for you. You rebuttalshould are pathetic asinine and baseless. This why you didn't know about all those places and their history and resorted to bring up my supposed support of ipob as means to deflect. Then you run around asking daft questions that don't serve to justify initial claim about viability of nation and population figures. Why don't you stop asking dumb question and just see how sinagapore did it. As I already showe'd you the density over 7,000 km^2. That means in 1965 the handled the problem and became wealthy nation but you don't know this because you don't think. Singapore population density during 1965 independence 2624. Km^2. It all boils down to good economic policies and good institutions. When you have educated productive population issues work themselves out. moninuola65 dude its very pathetic you need me to spoon fees this information to you. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 6:19pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:I hate people telling lie; The country’s usually first-class infrastructure is already overwhelmed with train breakdowns and skyrocketing prices. A survey conducted by the Economist Intelligence Unit has identified Singapore as the sixth most expensive city in the world to live in. Overcrowding is also a major concern; Singapore will be required to reclaim even more land to accommodate the projected population. In response, pages like “Say ‘No’ to an overpopulated Singapore” have sprouted up on Facebook to oppose the government’s plans, with arguments occasionally crossing the line towards anti-immigration and xenophobic sentiments. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 6:23pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65: I repeat you are shifting goal post again. You don't have the mental capicity for this debate sadly but it's fun trolling you with facts. You do know Singapore in spite of those challenges has one of the least corrupt, safest and highest standards of living. This an example if viable country that disproves baseless postulation about viable countries. Lol this is pathetic if this is best rebuttals you can mount. I would move on to Macau but you would just bring up Facebook petitions. Asian nation are known for being xenophobic over populated or not. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 6:30pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:man I think you must started a shame of yourself; But the government’s logic is this: thanks to the demographic-economic paradox, the Singaporean population is beginning to age and decline. Without a growing, reliable workforce, Singapore will not be able to achieve economic growth, which is crucial for creating more jobs and growing wages. Also, an aging population means that there will be less working Singaporeans supporting more dependent citizens. The country’s gross domestic product (one of the highest in the world) could begin to fall, taking the government’s pride with it. Something must be done. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 6:35pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65: Again pathtic you can't be this pathtic. The nation has problema because it's not heaven. You see it has aging population and decline so the actually want more young people. You see it has on of the highest GDPs in world and your still ranting in 3rd world Nigeria. Do these issues make it non viable nation suddenly maybe to an a daft person. moninuola65 here are some more fact and compare it to Nigeria. Ranked 1 in the 2015 OECD global education report Rank 17 standard of living. Rank 7 in transparency Rank 1 ease of doing business. Source: other stats |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 6:39pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:Population planning; The post-war boom in births led to an interest in family planning, and by 1960, the government publicly funded and supported family planning programmes. After independence in 1965, the birth rate had fallen to 29.5 per thousand individuals, and the natural growth rate had fallen to 2.5%. Birth rates in the 1960s were still perceived as high by the government; on average, a baby was born every 11 minutes in 1965. Kandang Kerbau Hospital (KKH) — which specialised in women's health and was the most popular hospital to have children — saw over 100 deliveries per day in 1962. In 1966, KKH delivered 39835 babies, earning it a place in the Guinness Book of World Records for "largest number of births in a single maternity facility" for ten years. Because there was generally a massive shortage of beds in that era, mothers with routine deliveries were discharged from hospitals within 24 hours. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 6:47pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65: Does this prove that a country with over 400km^2 density non viable. Lol such a daft deflection.
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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 6:53pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:do you know the total population of Singapore? why should Singapore worry about her little population as it's among the best prospered country of the world? |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 6:57pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65: moninuola65 if you weren't busy looking up old policies you would aleady know the government is encouraging the population to have more kids. BTW the family planning consisted of tax incentives and benefit reductions. It was voluntary because you can have more kids but without state subsidizing the cost. The government is proactive. Now look at them moving on opposite direction. Everything still voluntary. Now stop explain to me how it's a non viable nation. Unless you realize that claim was daft now. moninuola65: Pathetic deflector you won't explain how it's suddenly non viable. Did singapore reduce population or did it grow. moninuola65 This was so daft. I can see why you ignore this quote. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 7:13pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:they have the two policy, decrease first and increase the second but why Singapore is worrying about her little population and the most populous nation of the world were not worry as such? |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 7:15pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
The White Paper was heavily criticized and panned by opposition parties and government critics.[30] Member of Parliament Low Thia Khiang of the Workers' Party of Singapore had criticized current measures of increasing the fertility rate, claiming that the high cost of living and lack of family and social support discouraged young couples from having babies. As for current immigration policies, he had noted that immigrants were a source of friction for Singaporeans and that an increased population would put more stress on the already strained urban infrastructure.[31] On February 16, 2013, nearly 3,000 people rallied to protest the White Paper and raise concerns that the increased population would lead to the deterioration of public service and the increase of the cost of living in the future |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by misterawo: 7:19pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
If that is the case, Bangladesh should never be never be a country. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 7:20pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65: You can't both at same time. Lol come on do you think before typing. Either you want rate to increase or decrease these are mutually exclusive concepts. They want work force to increase to sustain aging population and economy. This all part of good demographics. China is worried about demographic and wants couples to have more children as well. The one child policy was thrown out years ago. moninuola65 You don't know this because as usual you don't think or research. Just daft postulations you pulled out of thin air. These include the First Step Grant, where parents will get $3,000 for their newborn's Child Development Account (CDA). Singapore policy above. Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/pm-encourages-singaporeans-to-have-more-babies
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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by kernel505: 7:32pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
oladeebo: Ola, poor education makes a man looks like a fool. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_area These are lists of states with there land mass. If Lagos is just 3000 km², containing at least 20 million people, Abia is 6000 km² and Enugu 7000 km² Your hate and obsession for Biafra, makes you sound illogical. |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 7:37pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
Blue3k:man accept defeat it maybe hard to swallow but it's fact. i. The post-war boom in births led to an interest in family planning, and by 1960, the government publicly funded and supported family planning programmes. ii. Singapore’s government might as well have dropped dynamite among the people when it recently addressed its aging workforce and low birth rate. Its solution: increase the population to approximately 6.9 million by 2030. mr man why Singapore a country of less than 6 million people should worry about her population and a proposed biafra nation no need to worry about 40 million people of her population? sorry, I can't help you any longer as you refused to understand! |
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 7:47pm On Sep 24, 2017 |
moninuola65: Lol you are do pathetic you use Facebook and opposition statements to make daft points. Why don't you actually read policy off of government website. Next you are still deflecting from original point because you know it's daft. I'll post the 1972 family planning policy with link since you don't have mental capacity to look it up yourself. Next they already encouragin more birth with new tax incentives. You need to help yourself. You displayed boundless amount of mental ineptitude. Only you would equate this program to gping short of bombing population. The used slogans and tax incentives. You were still free to have more kids. On 24 October 1972, this message was given substantial force with the introduction of tough new measures to discourage families from having more than two children. The policies, which came into effect on 1 August the following year, included (i) a reduction of income tax relief to cover only the first three children; (ii) an increase in accouchement charges in government hospitals; (iii) a waiver of accouchement and other fees for the fourth child on condition that either the husband or wife underwent sterilisation after delivery of the baby; (iv) a reduction of paid maternity leave from three to two confinements; and (v) a lower priority for larger families on the wait list for Housing and Development Board (HDB) flats. These include the First Step Grant, where parents will get $3,000 for their newborn's Child Development Account (CDA). moninuola65: How does anything you said translate to them being non viable country. They didn't shrink. They did have more that 2000km^2 population density. They rose out of poverty. They have high standard of living and encourage more children. As long the have good economic policy and tax incentives the density issue iso not big deal. It's been proven now. |
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