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See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by oladeebo: 9:30pm On Sep 23, 2017
Do you want to know the main criteria for grant or involve in Independent referendum by International community...UN?
Here is it:
if your area is not qualify for this criteria don't even agitate or demand for independent, it can never come!
If your density is too high!....above 100/km2
Nigeria
• 2016 estimate
185,989,640[2] (7th)
• 2006 census
140,431,790
• Density
197.2/km2 (510.7/sq mi) (71st)


Biafran:
Population (2015 estimate)[2]:15
• Total ~ 40 million
• Density 400/km2 (1,000/sq mi)
The population of Igboland stated here is an accumulation of the 5 main states Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo

USSR
• 1991 est. 293,047,571
Density 13/km2 (34/sq mi)

South Sudan
• 2015 estimate
12,340,000[4]
• 2008 census
8,260,490 (disputed)[5] (94th)
• Density
13.33/km2 (34.5/sq mi) (214th)

Texas
Population Ranked 2nd
• Total 27,862,596 (2016 est.)[4]
• Density 103.7/sq mi (40.0/km2)
Ranked 26th
• Median household income $56,473[5] (26th)

Southern Cameroons
• 1987 2,100,000
Density 49.5 /km2 (128.3 /sq mi)

United States
• 2017 estimate
325,365,189[8] (3rd)
• 2010 census
308,745,538[9] (3rd)
• Density
90.6/sq mi (35.0/km2) (180th)

India
• 2016 estimate
1,324,171,354[12] (2nd)
• 2011 census
1,210,854,977[13][14] (2nd)
• Density
393.7/km2 (1,019.7/sq mi) (31st)


China
• 2016 estimate
1,403,500,365 Increase[10] (1st)
• 2010 census
1,339,724,852[11] (1st)
• Density
145[12]/km2 (375.5/sq mi) (83rd)


Spain
• 2016 census
46,468,102 Increase[e] (30th)
• Density
92/km2 (238.3/sq mi) (112nd)


Catalonia
Population (2016)
• Total 7,522,596[1]
• Rank 2nd in Spain (16%)
• Density 234/km2 (610/sq mi)

Switzerland
• 2016 estimate
8,401,120[4] (99th)
• 2015 census
8,327,126[5]
• Density
202/km2 (523.2/sq mi) (63rd)

If the density of your area is saturated, you can't have independent for a new country, because, UN can not find land else where for harbouring your population

if you compare the density of all the country sited here including the most populous one!
Biafran Density had the most higher number:
400/km2!

how many biafran per m2 then?
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Samusu(m): 9:33pm On Sep 23, 2017
OK, noted

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by oladeebo: 9:48pm On Sep 23, 2017
Samusu:
OK, noted
and keep it for incoming not to waste their lives for a failed project!

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Nemesis1: 9:52pm On Sep 23, 2017
Wetin those numbers mean?

That UN will import awa oyel? grin
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by TimFisher: 10:06pm On Sep 23, 2017
undecided
I don't know why this Op likes masturbating anything that concerns Biafra.

Is it ur referendum?

pls go get a new life.

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Bari22(m): 10:06pm On Sep 23, 2017
gringringrin
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 10:10pm On Sep 23, 2017
Nemesis1:
Wetin those numbers mean?

That UN will import awa oyel? grin
very very important, if your family have a plot of land, which is limited, between two/three generation, the land will the saturated, the conflict will begin with your family members!
same thing happen to country issue!
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by oladeebo: 10:18pm On Sep 23, 2017
TimFisher:
undecided
I don't know why this Op likes masturbating anything that concerns Biafra.

Is it ur referendum?

pls go get a new life.
biafra had gone never to return,
but keeping people in ignorant at this age of information is a conscience criminality
How can a new state manage what a state of centuries ago can't manage?
400/Km2!
what a country?

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by oladeebo: 10:19pm On Sep 23, 2017
Bari22:
gringringrin
yah,
laughable!
400/km2!
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by TimFisher: 10:37pm On Sep 23, 2017
oladeebo:

biafra had gone never to return,
but keeping people in ignorant at this age of information is a conscience criminality
How can a new state manage what a state of centuries ago can't manage?
400/Km2!
what a country?

Nonsense!
Unintelligent!go and do research on a country called Azerbaijan..before we can proceed further
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 10:47pm On Sep 23, 2017
TimFisher:


Nonsense!
Unintelligent!go and do research on a country called Azerbaijan..before we can proceed further
Azerbaijan
• 2017 estimate
9,823,667[1] (91st)
• Density
113/km2 (292.7/sq mi) (99th)


Biafran:
Population (2015 estimate)[2]:15
• Total ~ 40 million
• Density 400/km2 (1,000/sq mi)
The population of Igboland stated here is an accumulation of the 5 main states Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo
ok let's go!
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Marcelo290(m): 10:54pm On Sep 23, 2017
The land space is too small leading to a high population density, if not the haphazard and lopsided state creation by the military leaders..
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by BALLOSKI: 10:56pm On Sep 23, 2017
40 million people from those 5 Ibo states? They're not up to.
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 10:57pm On Sep 23, 2017
moninuola65:

very very important, if your family have a plot of land, which is limited, between two/three generation, the land will the saturated, the conflict will begin with your family members!
same thing happen to country issue!

Dude that sounds like nonsense. If your plot of land is full move it's not by force you live in that one spot. If their conflict their courts or chiefs to settle petty stuff like this. You already know population density forces real estate developers to build up with spread out not an option.
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by BALLOSKI: 10:59pm On Sep 23, 2017
Marcelo290:
The land space is too small leading to a high population density, if not the haphazard and lopsided state creation by the military leaders..
and where should the military have created another state for them? You can't give what you don't have; they're landlocked with little space.

Check the map abeg

Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Nemesis1: 11:02pm On Sep 23, 2017
moninuola65:

very very important, if your family have a plot of land, which is limited, between two/three generation, the land will the saturated, the conflict will begin with your family members!
same thing happen to country issue!

I should take offense for using my family as an example, I prepared my response, an ugly one but I'm in a good mood, all I'm the name of sarcasm

Don't do that again though cos I was being sarcastic with my previous comment

Good night
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 11:04pm On Sep 23, 2017
Blue3k:


Dude that sounds like nonsense. If your plot of land is full move it's not by force you live in that one spot. If their conflict their courts or chiefs to settle petty stuff like this. You already know population density forces real estate developers to build up with spread out not an option.
even the giant USA,USSR, CHINA, INDIA etc
can't manage
400/km2!
to make biafran land viable as a nation:
3/4 of biafran population must be reduced!
in 5 years to come biafran nation will be exploded in itself!
UN is not fool!
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 11:11pm On Sep 23, 2017
moninuola65:

even the giant USA,USSR, CHINA, INDIA etc
can't manage
400/km2!

to make biafran land viable as a nation:
3/4 of biafran population must be reduced!
in 5 years to come biafran nation will be exploded in itself!
UN is not fool!

You're only saying this type on nonsense because you didn't take the time to think or google this information. Remember not all land in a country is habitable to begin with. The way your measuring is misleading if you look at wear human being actually reside.

Fun fact: Malta has population density 1,265 inhabitants per square kilometre. It's a small country in EU. Yet we don't hear stories of doom and gloom.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063265/England-worlds-sixth-crowded-country-High-rate-immigration-blame-population-surge.html#article-2063265

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 11:28pm On Sep 23, 2017
Blue3k:


You're only saying this type on nonsense because you didn't take the time to think or google this information. Remember not all land in a country is habitable to begin with. The way your measuring is misleading if you look at wear human being actually reside.

Fun fact: Malta has population density 1,265 inhabitants per square kilometre. It's a small country in EU. Yet we don't hear stories of doom and gloom.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063265/England-worlds-sixth-crowded-country-High-rate-immigration-blame-population-surge.html#article-2063265
when Syria refugee hit europe why the European groan?
and those country you mention which of them agitating for separate nation today,
and Taiwan is still in China in which 1 child per family structural is still going on why?
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 11:39pm On Sep 23, 2017
moninuola65:

when Syria refugee hit europe why the European groan?
and those country you mention which of them agitating for separate nation today,
and Taiwan is still in which 1 child per family structural is still going on why?

I'm glad you realised you first claim was nonsense. Now changing the goal post. The Europeans are worried about uncontrolled migration due to Crime, welfare strain and unemployment. I haven't researched Taiwan but I'm guessing they following China lead. Anyway those are 2 bad cases out of almost 30 that dispute dispute your erroneous claim.

Many countries will go over that 400km^2 population density next half century and still be functional. These were claims you and the OP pulled out of thin air without thinking. I'm surprised none of these guys challenged you guys on defending it.

Fun fact: Israel population density will be 403Km^2 by 2020. Worldmetrics

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 11:47pm On Sep 23, 2017
Blue3k:


You're only saying this type on nonsense because you didn't take the time to think or google this information. Remember not all land in a country is habitable to begin with. The way your measuring is misleading if you look at wear human being actually reside.

Fun fact: Malta has population density 1,265 inhabitants per square kilometre. It's a small country in EU. Yet we don't hear stories of doom and gloom.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063265/England-worlds-sixth-crowded-country-High-rate-immigration-blame-population-surge.html#article-2063265
The country covers just over 316 km2 (122 sq mi), with a population of just under 450,000, making it one of the world's smallest and most densely populated countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 11:55pm On Sep 23, 2017
moninuola65:

The country covers just over 316 km2 (122 sq mi), with a population of just under 450,000, making it one of the world's smallest and most densely populated countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta

Great that only serves to dispute claim more great job. Tiny countries handle population density well and your think bigger nations will crumble under weight somehow. You say this in spite of size of their economy and resources. Again what the was logic behind your claims?

moninuola65:

even the giant USA,USSR, CHINA, INDIA etc
can't manage
400/km2!
to make biafran land viable as a nation:
3/4 of biafran population must be reduced!
in 5 years to come biafran nation will be exploded in itself!
UN is not fool!

I guess you think India won't be a viable country in few years. This is truly laughable. Seriously just admit the figures were just arbitrary numbers you pulled out of thin air. India population density will be over 450km^2 by 2020.

Source: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/india-population/

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 12:00am On Sep 24, 2017
Blue3k:


I'm glad you realised you first claim was nonsense. Now changing the goal post. The Europeans are worried about uncontrolled migration due to Crime, welfare strain and unemployment. I haven't researched Taiwan but I'm guessing they following China lead. Anyway those are 2 bad cases out of almost 30 that dispute dispute your erroneous claim.

Many countries will go over that 400km^2 population density next half century and still be functional. This was just claim you and OP pulled out of thin air without thinking. I'm surprised none of these guys challenged you guys on defending it.
blue,
those were already existing nation that were in one way or the other struggling for their population already and the world institution were helping them on way out,
so UN is foolish to created more unmanageable problem already worrying the whole world?
if these nations meet together it's certainly on population reduction they were meeting, as far as land is limited resource!
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 12:06am On Sep 24, 2017
Blue3k:


Great that only serves to dispute claim more great job. Tiny countries handle population density well and your think bigger nations will crumble under weight somehow. You say this in spite of size of their economy and resources. Again what the was logic behind your claims?
manage what?
and what the resources of matra beside tourism?
and why population control is more sponsored and campaign world wide than before?
why condom is no longer hiding today?
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 12:08am On Sep 24, 2017
moninuola65:

blue,
those were already existing nation that were in one way or the other struggling for their population already and the world institution were helping them on way out,
so UN is foolish to created more unmanageable problem already worrying the whole world?
if these nations meet together it's certainly on population reduction they were meeting, as far as land is limited resource!

Shift goal post yet again. The UN was helping which one of those nations. Most of these place already had robust economies. Next the population density ia handled by having good economy and building up. If this supposed biafran state has good economic policy they will survive India started off in same spot as Nigeria slowly advanced. A lot of these nations were poor at first.

moninuola65:

manage what?
and what the resources of malta beside tourism?
and why population control is more sponsored and campaign world wide than before?
why condom is no longer hiding today?

Lol you only help my points. So a mono economy is able to handle and sustain highly dense population with good policies. Wow amazing who would have guessed. Population control more sponsored because having babies at young age hinders youth incomes. Next it's a burden on welfare states of these nations especially if they are uneducated and don't have skills.

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 12:10am On Sep 24, 2017
Blue3k:


Great that only serves to dispute claim more great job. Tiny countries handle population density well and your think bigger nations will crumble under weight somehow. You say this in spite of size of their economy and resources. Again what the was logic behind your claims?



I guess you think India won't be a viable country in few years. This is truly laughable. Seriously just admit the figures were just arbitrary numbers you pulled out of thin air. India population density will be over 450km^2 by 2020.

Source: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/india-population/

buy then biafran will estimated at how many?
and is indian not taken precaution on her population now? and why?
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 12:16am On Sep 24, 2017
moninuola65:

buy then biafran will estimated at how many?
and is indian not taken precaution on her population now? and why?

Everyone takes precautions because it's stupid not to plan. Having large uneducated population with little skills is not stregth. As I said it does hinders young people and will burden to welfare states. That doesn't mean the nation won't be viable with large number er of people. You're arguing two different points now. I understand why you have to when first on didn't make sense in the least bit.

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 12:19am On Sep 24, 2017
Blue3k:


Shift goal post yet again. The UN was helping which one of those nations. Most of these place already had robust economies. Next the population density ia handled by having good economy and building up. If this supposed biafran state has good economic policy they will survive India started off in same spot as Nigeria slowly advanced. A lot of these nations were poor at first.
stated the most developed country known to this status?
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 12:24am On Sep 24, 2017
moninuola65:

stated the most developed country known to this status?

Let me run off a short list look at them in 1960's to now. They are commonly known as Asian Tiger economies. Good policies and time does wonders.

Singapore, South Korea, Honk Kong Taiwan. Throw in Isreal just for fun.

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Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by moninuola65: 12:27am On Sep 24, 2017
Blue3k:


Everyone takes precautions because it's stupid not to plan. Having large uneducated population with little skills is not stregth. As I said it does hinders young people and will burden to welfare states. That doesn't mean the nation won't be viable with large number er of people. You're arguing two different points now. I understand why you have to when first on didn't make sense in the least bit.
I give up, as it's stupid not to take precaution!
UN had also taken precaution on a viable and non viable nation!
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by nairanaira12: 12:32am On Sep 24, 2017
Nemesis1:


I should take offense for using my family as an example, I prepared my response, an ugly one but I'm in a good mood, all I'm the name of sarcasm

Don't do that again though cos I was being sarcastic with my previous comment

Good night

You are taking an ordinary example too personal
Re: See Why Un Can Never Grant Independent Referendum To Biafran...fact But Bitter. by Blue3k(m): 12:38am On Sep 24, 2017
moninuola65:

I give up, as it's stupid not to take precaution!
UN had also taken precaution on a viable and non viable nation!

You had no point to begin with dude. You had to keep changing goal post. Most of the countries you mentioned don't have population control agendas like China did with one child policy currently. You brought up India and taiwan.

Taiwan even offering money to get population figures up. India doesn't have nothing much except family planning help. Nothing involuntary like you insinuated. Funny people like you don't bring up the demographic challenges that the population control caused with aging population.

Just to remind you said viable countries can't 400km^2 population density. Then you said 2 out many countries had 1 child policy in past. Then now you say the have family planning. None of this disputes fact counties can and will be viable with 400km^2 population density. If countries can be viable with higher densities as you clearly see. Singapore has an over 7000 km^2 density and gained independence 1965. Remember it was poor country at first.

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