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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:09pm On Sep 24, 2017
Eastfield1:
shifting goal post.
Mr attachés
warripikin point is simple.
"You urhobo should stop lumping warri south (the itshekiri) to urhobo in order to dominate them & grab their land(warrior)
Okay.

I guess you also saw where he said that Urhobos occupy Warri South?

Carry on!
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 6:11pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
And has the National domination by Hausa-Fulani people been any better?

I do agree with you that every state should be constituted by those of same ethnicities. However, the Urhobos, Ijaws and Itsekiris have been living together for ages now and Urhobos have not dominated the others. In fact, quite the contrary, [b]Urhobo is dominated by others, mostly the Itsekiri, [/b]who claim to own the entire Warri river region.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:11pm On Sep 24, 2017
Eastfield1:
shifting goal post.
Mr attachés
warripekin point is simple.
"You urhobo should stop lumping warri south (the itshekiri) to urhobo in order to dominate them & grab their land(warri)
Na wa, who imposed the fear of the Urhobos on you guys like this? When last did the Urhobos fight a major war in modern history?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by scionofurhobo(m): 6:11pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
When will the Urhobos wake up and leave up to their potential. Na wa. Urhobo, God go help una... This is a distraction and waste of time when there are lingering issues that pertains national development, regional development, integration of varying compnents in the region towards strategic development and redeployment of assets to facilitate broadend improvement in the entire region that should be brought the front burner..Rather than face crucial issues, they're dancing to the python beat...new state indeed. Make God open una eyes...
I appreciate your wisdom and matured approach to the matter. The level of mentality mediocrity being exhibited by our so called elders beats me hollow. I pray a new generation of leadership that will realise their potentials and harness same towards the core issues that affects us, is born.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IgboticGirl(f): 6:12pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
But they can extract oil from there abi?
I am Beginning to like u
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 6:12pm On Sep 24, 2017
chloride6:
The SE cant exist across the Niger for various reasons including economy, security etc.
its like saying ala Igbo does not exist across the Niger

I don't understand your point really
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:13pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Have you done a referendum if itsekiri and Isoko would want a country with you people.

Isn't it ironic that you're doing the same thing you accused IPOB ( bunch of noise makers) of doing?

You have always been a hypocritical tribal bigot anyway.
You should have educated yourself a little mister.

Urhobo PANDEF is only reiterating the decision of the 2014 National Conference where it was decided by ALL that a New Delta State, comprising Delta South and Central, should be created.

They are not saying anything new.! Besides, you seem to forget that Isoko is a sister nation to Urhobo (they originated politically from Eastern Urhobo).

Don't ever, in your life, compare us with IPOB. We are not agitating for Secession or a referendum. We are not forcing anyone into anything that wasn't MUTUALLY agreed upon. Capiche?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Myself2(m): 6:13pm On Sep 24, 2017
warripekin:
Why are uhrobo people not agitating for delta central state ? Any lumping of delta south with delta central to form a new state will not be welcome by Itsekiris because we see it as a ploy for the uhrobo's to dominate such a state because of their numerical strength. The Uhrobo will simply dominate affairs at the state level and rule the new state as if it's their private estate. It will be reminiscent of what is going on in Benue state where the Tiv takes precedence over any other ethnic group in Benue state. The idoma people can attest to what I am saying.
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Fantastic point bro
This is a ploy by some power hungry Urhobo to dominate the Itsekiri
Students of Delta history and politics still remember the acrimony that existed between the Urhobo and Itsekiri when they clamoured for i.e. a Delta state without an Anioma, how they were at each other's throats over where to site the state capital, this was why IBB delivered the master stroke of not creating a separate Anioma state but lumped them with the Urhobos,Ijaws and Itsekiris in what is now the present Delta state but sited the capital in Asaba to assuage the Aniomas.
Some of these funny Urhobo characters giving every other person a bad name have never hidden their disdain for the other tribes in the state especially the Anioma and Itsekiri, however they didn't mind as long as one of us ( Ibori) was governor ,but as soon as an Itsekiri (Uduaghan) became governor,they developed headache, and alas it appears now an Anioma ( Okowa) is governor,they are having heart attacks .
They better beware lest they die for nothing cos personally I see nothing wrong with this present arrangement and the Itsekiris will never allow it happen,they'd rather ask foe another separate state
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Kirigidi(m): 6:15pm On Sep 24, 2017
minke:
The best way to end all these calls for secession and state creation is to restructure the country and make every state autonomous.
That was a shameful agitation, because at the end of the day Delta North which is minority in present Delta State will then emerged as a full state [proposed Anioma] with 3 senators, whereas Urhobo who are the majority in present Delta State will end up still sharing a state [proposed New Delta] with other tribes and will have just one or two senators. Is that progress? Urhobo alone with its abundant human and natural resources is large enough and even overdue to have a state of her own. Urhobo landmass [approx. 5000 sq.km] alone is bigger than that of present Lagos State [3345 sq.km] and Anambra State [4844 sq. km]. Urhobo need to wake up and take their rightful place in Nigeria [progress]!
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:16pm On Sep 24, 2017
scionofurhobo:
I appreciate your wisdom and matured approach to the matter. The level of mentality mediocrity being exhibited by our so called elders beats me hollow. I pray a new generation of leadership that will realise their potentials and harness same towards the core issues that affects us, is born.
Don't wait too longer. We are talking already at the back. I'm unhappy that Delta with an average of 20-25 Billion monthly is been crippled, the whole elders in the region need to come together with a collective vision for growth, strategy, expansion and meet on how to channel the resourcefulness of the region into meaningful and visible growth,and not all this iteskiri, urhobo, ijaw. If the problem is distribution ofvresources, then why can't the elders adopt systems that were adopted in Europe, and Asia where massive expansion was done so that people had better and increased access to resources? I..e why sell lands for bungalows when we can build 10-15 stories estates that can accommodate over 100,000 people


Doing this in multiple locations will make the state better positioned for development and will re-direct the minds of the people into other outlets rather than agitate based on resources when we all shall die one day.

My soul weeps, oh Delta, wake up and live up to your expectations, you are the son of the morning too Delta State
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IJOBA2: 6:16pm On Sep 24, 2017
babyfaceafrica:
Nice..what about Ibadan state,anioma state,okun state?..everybody sha won chop..issorite
PROPHET BUBARI SAW WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:16pm On Sep 24, 2017
Myself2:
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Fantastic point bro
This is a ploy by some power hungry Urhobo to dominate the Itsekiri
Students of Delta history and politics still remember the acrimony that existed between the Urhobo and Itsekiri when they clamoured for i.e. a Delta state without an Anioma, how they were at each other's throats over where to site the state capital, this was why IBB delivered the master stroke of not creating a separate Anioma state but lumped them with the Urhobos,Ijaws and Itsekiris in what is now the present Delta state but sited the capital in Asaba to assuage the Aniomas.
Some of these funny Urhobo characters giving every other person a bad name have never hidden their disdain for the other tribes in the state especially the Anioma and Itsekiri, however they didn't mind as long as one of us ( Ibori) was governor ,but as soon as an Itsekiri (Uduaghan) became governor,they developed headache, and alas it appears now an Anioma ( Okowa) is governor,they are having heart attacks .
They better beware lest they die for nothing cos personally I see nothing wrong with this new arrangement and the Itsekiris will never allow it happen,they'd rather ask foe another separate state
And yet you seem to forget HOW the Itsekiri and Anioma became governors in the first place...


I pity you, truly. Get well soon.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by shallysgirl: 6:16pm On Sep 24, 2017
Who will come after him?
I think he has a good point.
supersystemsnig:
Don't let them come after you oh
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Sajio(m): 6:16pm On Sep 24, 2017
All I see here is GREED, ppl are providing solution on how to make Nigeria better while some are there asking for their own state.... will this solve the problem of nigeria?? Restructure is all we need now and not all this selfishness that our ppl are showcasing here...
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:17pm On Sep 24, 2017
IgboticGirl:
I am Beginning to like u
You wan marry am? Come Sapele i go show you him papa house, make we go pay him bride price... grin
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:17pm On Sep 24, 2017
shallysgirl:
Who will come after him?
I think he has a good point.
Delta needs to discuss development abeg and not all this old school issues
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Eastfield1: 6:17pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
Okay.
I guess you also saw where he said that Urhobos occupy Warri South?
Carry on!
listen to what another warripekin has to say below
godswilld10:
Its too late for all dat,we the itsekiris won't allow dat
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:19pm On Sep 24, 2017
Sajio:
All I see here is GREED, ppl are providing solution on how to make Nigeria better while some are there asking for their own state.... will this solve the problem of nigeria?? Restructure is all we need now and not all this selfishness that our ppl are showcasing here...
God Bless You oh. Greed. Greed. Greed


Resources Resources and Resources....The gas that was been flared for over 45 years, wasn't it a resource? Delta needs to pray from deliverance from short shortsightedness and greed
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m):
Kirigidi:
That was a shameful agitation, because at the end of the day Delta North which is minority in present Delta State will then emerged as a full state [proposed Anioma] with 3 senators, whereas Urhobo who are the majority in present Delta State will end up still sharing a state [proposed New Delta] with other tribes and will have just one or two senators. Is that progress? Urhobo alone with its abundant human and natural resources is large enough and even overdue to have a state of her own. Urhobo landmass [approx. 5000 sq.km] alone is bigger than that of present Lagos State [3345 sq.km] and Anambra State [4844 sq. km]. Urhobo need to wake up and take their rightful place in Nigeria [progress]!
I have always advocated for an Urhobo State, no more, no less. The idea of sharing states with other ethnicities is not productive in a nation like Nigeria where ethnocentrism reigns supreme.

Our leaders need to see things from a better perspective. There's no point sharing a state with Itsekiris (who have their own agenda), Ijaws (who already have their own state) and I daresay Isoko (whose political machinations do not align with ours to a large extent).
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:20pm On Sep 24, 2017
Eastfield1:
listen to what another warripekin has to say below
Okay. Noted!
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IgboticGirl(f): 6:20pm On Sep 24, 2017
In as much I don't like any people agitating for it state or country, I will love it if Niger deltans agitate for resource control that is the main thing



Very soon oil will be of no use again and I have not seen any tangible thing or development in SS


Restructuring should be everyone goal before it is too late... That is wat I always tell ipob member but they won't listen
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Eastfield1: 6:21pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Have you done a referendum if itsekiri and Isoko would want a country with you people.

Isn't it ironic that you're doing the same thing you accused IPOB ( bunch of noise makers) of doing?

You have always been a hypocritical tribal bigot anyway.
one of my Girlfriend from ISoko by the name Ufoma Egaga has never agreed that she is an Urhobo
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 6:21pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
You should have educated yourself a little mister.

Urhobo PANDEF is only reiterating the decision of the 2014 National Conference where it was decided by ALL that a New Delta State, comprising Delta South and Central, should be created.

They are not saying anything new.! Besides, you seem to forget that Isoko is a sister nation to Urhobo (they originated politically from Eastern Urhobo).
The 2014 national conference was a proposal by various group so...
Was it decided that the new Delta state should comprise people of Delta south and Delta central?

Who made this proposal to the national conference and are the itsekiris in support.

Because itsekiri will NEVER AGREE to a new state with you.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:22pm On Sep 24, 2017
IgboticGirl:
In as much I don't like any people agitating for it state or country, I will love it if Niger deltans agitate for resource control that is the main thing



Very soon oil will be of no use again and I have not seen any tangible thing or development in SS


Restructuring should be everyone goal before it is too late... That is wat I always tell ipob member but they won't listen
Its too late, countries in Europe are beginning to ban petrol engines. More countries are discovering crude oil. Information predicts the Northern Nigerian will soon discover crude oil up North. Name it Kenya, Botswana, Southern Sudan oil is beginning to flow, I am praying to God for oil to dry up so we can begin to think..


The greatest resource is the mind. Look at the igbos, go to markets and see igbos controlling machines, metals, commerce... We are dulling ourselves when the greatest resource is the mind and we need to hone in on it.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:23pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Na wa, who imposed the fear of the Urhobos on you guys like this? When last did the Urhobos fight a major war in modern history?
I think I am the one. I usually hit them hard whenever they peddle the idea that Urhobos want Biafra!
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by chloride6: 6:23pm On Sep 24, 2017
aniomafirstson:
its like saying ala Igbo does not exist across the Niger

I don't understand your point really
A geographical feature as important as the Niger will serve a very wide area and not just it's immediate neighbours. If regions are created tommorow, people as far as Benin will be entitled to the Niger.

Including anioma in the SE would mean that economic and security benefits of the Niger would accrue to the SE regional government.

For instance, all igbos including people as far as Enugu want the Niger dredged because of the total economic effect to the SE.

Similarly, the Niger is of economic benefit to people as far as Benin and not just it immediate neighbours in Asaba and Environs.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:24pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
I think I am the one. I usually hit them hard whenever they peddle the idea that Urhobos want Biafra!
Lol, bros its time for the younger generation to do something o. I don't like how that state looks i swear it. Look to Akwa Ibom, Akwa Ibom is beginning to shine and if care isn't taken...
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:25pm On Sep 24, 2017
Sajio:
All I see here is GREED, ppl are providing solution on how to make Nigeria better while some are there asking for their own state.... will this solve the problem of nigeria?? Restructure is all we need now and not all this selfishness that our ppl are showcasing here...
You seem not to understand that Nigeria will not move forward until serious boundaries are drawn. The system of government we are operating encourages under-representation of minorities.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:25pm On Sep 24, 2017
chloride6:
A geographical feature as important as the Niger will serve a very wide area and not just it's immediate neighbours. If regions are created tommorow, people as far as Benin will be entitled to the Niger.

Including anioma in the SE would mean that economic and security benefits of the Niger would accrue to the SE regional government.

For instance, all igbos including people as far as Enugu want the Niger dredged because of the total economic effect to the SE.

Similarly, the Niger is of economic benefit to people as far as Benin and not just it immediate neighbours in Asaba and Environs.
Na wa

Ebube !!!
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 6:26pm On Sep 24, 2017
Eastfield1:
one of my Girlfriend from ISoko by the name Ufoma Egaga has never agreed that she is an Urhobo
Fratermathy is looking for forced brotherhood by fire by force.

Even effurun a town on the fringes of Warri will tell you they aren't urhobo.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:26pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
The 2014 national conference was a proposal by various group so...
Was it decided that the new Delta state should comprise people of Delta south and Delta central?

Who made this proposal to the national conference and are the itsekiris in support.

Because itsekiri will NEVER AGREE to a new state with you.
Okay. Urhobos will not share a state with Itsekiris. Are you happy now?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:27pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Fratermathy is looking for forced brotherhood by fire by force.

Even effurun a town on the fringes of Warri will tell you they aren't urhobo.
Of course, they are not. They are Itsekiris there. Some are even Igbos too.
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