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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:27pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Grow up. Contribute something meaningful or keep off
The truth is bitter.....
Kingsley Kuku, DIARIS GOD, Mama Peace's Godson, Asari Dokubo, Diezani, Godsday Orubebe,Edwin Clark etc
All the above looted and enjoyed during Jonathan's era
QN: WHAT STOPPED THEM FROM DEMANDING THE CONFAB REPORT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE DRUNKARD?
Quote me with facts or save your free mb from 9mobile and mtn......nonsense
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Scholar212(m): 6:27pm On Sep 24, 2017
God am ashamed when I see supposed educated people still thinking like people from the Pre colonial era, ask yourself an Urhobo man, Itsekhiri, Anioma have all steered the affairs of the state, how has this improved the life of the average individual from this parts of Delta? While Delta state receive one of the highest allocation, my own dear state is stagnant and the present governor is busy commissioning FUEL station in this 21st century. Partisan politics and tribalsim has always been the reason we are in this state when states like Akwa Ibom is developing at a fast pace. If as a graduate and you are still thinking because a candidate is from your Senatorial district or speaks same language then he is the best man for the job then you are "made among men most miserable and your education is a waste of scarce resources ".
Technocrats like Tony Elumelu and Pat Utomi will never be given the chance to rule because they are not known politthiefcians in the state.
When many states are merely existing and waiting for federal allocation to share at the end of the month, people are still clamouring for more states WTF.
OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE O YEA BLIND DELTANS, THE STATE SHOULD THE MOST DEVELOPED IN THE REGION AND YOU GUYS ARE STILL THINKING LIKE YOUR ANCESTORS THAT NEVER SAW THE FOUR WALLS OF A PRIMARY SCHOOL.SMH
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:27pm On Sep 24, 2017
Eastfield1:
one of my Girlfriend from ISoko by the name Ufoma Egaga has never agreed that she is an Urhobo
Isoko is NOT Urhobo! Stop killing yourself over an issue settled in 1959.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IgboticGirl(f): 6:28pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Its too late, countries in Europe are beginning to ban petrol engines. More countries are discovering crude oil. Information predicts the Northern Nigerian will soon discover crude oil up North. Name it Kenya, Botswana, Southern Sudan oil is beginning to flow, I am praying to God for oil to dry up so we can begin to think..


The greatest resource is the mind. Look at the igbos, go to markets and see igbos controlling machines, metals, commerce... We are dulling ourselves when the greatest resource is the mind and we need to hone in on it.
Is even now that they need to demand for it before it is too late

Niger deltans should demand more right now their Land has been damage. Other region has clean land that can do their agriculture, but here in Niger deltan no land, no oil headquarters etc this just day robbery
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:28pm On Sep 24, 2017
genghiskhan007:
The truth is bitter.....
Kingsley Kuku, DIARIS GOD, Mama Peace's Godson, Asari Dokubo, Diezani, Godsday Orubebe,Edwin Clark etc
All the above looted and enjoyed during Jonathan's era
QN: WHAT STOPPED THEM FROM DEMANDING THE CONFAB REPORT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE DRUNKARD?
Quote me with facts or save your free mb from 9mobile and mtn......nonsense
Lol. I'll pass. God Bless Brov
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 6:29pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
Okay. Urhobos will not share a state with Itsekiris. Are you happy now?
Answer the question:

Did the itsekiri support the proposal that a new Delta state be formed to compromise delta south and central?

Stop trying to evade the matter. You were responding with fury a few minutes ago.

I repeat, no itsekiri man will canvas for a new state left alone with urhobos!

You're such a petty fraud and liar.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:29pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Lol, bros its time for the younger generation to do something o. I don't like how that state looks i swear it. Look to Akwa Ibom, Akwa Ibom is beginning to shine and if care isn't taken...
Yet the same Akwa Ibom is fraught with various ethnic issues as well. Oronians are not happy with Ibibios, Annangs are not happy with Ibibios and Ibibios feel they are marginalised!
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:30pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Answer the question:

Did the itsekiri support the proposal that a new Delta state be formed to compromise delta south and central?

Stop trying to evade the matter. You were responding with fury a few minutes ago.

I repeat, no itsekiri man will canvas for a new state left alone with urhobos!

You're such a petty fraud and liar.
Of course not. No Itsekiri will canvass for a state with Urhobos. You can go to bed happy tonight now.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by scionofurhobo(m): 6:31pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Don't wait too longer. We are talking already at the back. I'm unhappy that Delta with an average of 20-25 Billion monthly is been crippled, the whole elders in the region need to come together with a collective vision for growth, strategy, expansion and meet on how to channel the resourcefulness of the region into meaningful and visible growth,and not all this iteskiri, urhobo, ijaw. If the problem is distribution ofvresources, then why can't the elders adopt systems that were adopted in Europe, and Asia where massive expansion was done so that people had better and increased access to resources? I..e why sell lands for bungalows when we can build 10-15 stories estates that can accommodate over 100,000 people


Doing this in multiple locations will make the state better positioned for development and will re-direct the minds of the people into other outlets rather than agitate based on resources when we all shall die one day.

My soul weeps, oh Delta, wake up and live up to your expectations, you are the son of the morning too Delta State
You are right bro. It is pathetic and very unfortunate that we found ourselves in this "Nigerian situation". It's like a progression in retrogression in the state of Delta. With all the abundance God has blessed us with, we ought to the the "Dubai" of Africa, alas, the reverse is the case. cry
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:31pm On Sep 24, 2017
IgboticGirl:
Is even now that they need to demand for it before it is too late

Niger deltans should demand more right now their Land has been damage. Other region has clean land that can do their agriculture, but here in Niger deltan no land, no oil headquarters etc this just day robbery
Wetin we go do? The youths are not enlightened, the elders are greedy.

You know why i support the IPOB? At least, IPOB wants something, they know what it is and are ready for the consequences of the aftermath. I'm yet to understand what Niger Delta wants, just flowing in the pipeline....

May God open Niger Delta eyes is all i can say...

As for me, i'm counting down to the end of crude oil, may Heaven dryup either the oil or the market buying the oil.

I was speaking at a conference at how new oil sellers Iran is spoiling the market, by selling below the conventional price for crude and because of the proximity of Iran to the guys that buy up our oil, it means bad market, for example, the time it takes to load a ship and send to India, Iran has gone twice for the same amount of crude, sells cheap and has banked the cash....
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by greypencils: 6:32pm On Sep 24, 2017
There wouldn't have been the need to create a new delta state had it been warri had been chosen as the state capital instead of Asaba. All the same delta state is big enough, to accomodate 2 more states. But peace between the different tribes must be a prequisite. The method of choosing power and leadership must be defined and signed into law before state creation so as to prevent the fracas of power tussle in the future.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:33pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Lol. I'll pass. God Bless Brov
You're welcome
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:33pm On Sep 24, 2017
scionofurhobo:
You are right bro. It is pathetic and very unfortunate that we found ourselves in this "Nigerian situation". It's like a progression in retrogression in the state of Delta. With all the abundance God has blessed us with, we ought to the the "Dubai" of Africa, alas, the reverse is the case. cry
Its a mental problem, they think its an oil problem...I have been invited to join youth wings in different associations, i declined. I didn't ant them to indoctrinate me with their hate speeches and dullness. Niger Deltas should go to school and get enlightened. I am happy at the news i'm getting from the SE, the ND can't afford to be left behind.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:34pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
Yet the same Akwa Ibom is fraught with various ethnic issues as well. Oronians are not happy with Ibibios, Annangs are not happy with Ibibios and Ibibios feel they are marginalised!
I agree, what makes Akwa Ibom different is we can begin to feel forward movement. For the level of resources against intelligence and potential, Delta doesn't impress me
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:34pm On Sep 24, 2017
greypencils:
There wouldn't have been the need to create a new delta state had it been warri had been chosen as the state capital instead of Asaba. All the same delta state is big enough, to accomodate 2 more states. But peace between the different tribes must be a prequisite. The method of choosing power and leadership must be defined and signed into law before state creation so as to prevent the fracas of power tussle in the future.
I don't even subscribe to the idea that Warri should be a capital. A capital should be in a central location, not at the periphery or fringe of a state. Delta State's capital should have been in Abraka, Obiaruku, Ozoro or Orogun/Abbi.

Itsekiris certainly do not want Warri to be the capital for reasons best known to them.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 6:35pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
Of course not. No Itsekiri will canvass for a state with Urhobos. You can go to bed happy tonight now.
Oga fraud, you said it was agreed that the new Delta will comprise itsekiri, isoko and ijaw and urhobo.

I asked who agreed? And you wouldn't answer.

You're just a petty liar and a fraud selling lies with the platform of Nairaland.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:36pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
I don't even subscribe to the idea that Warri should be a capital. A capital should be in a central location, not at the periphery or fringe of a state. Delta State's capital should have been in Abraka, Obiaruku, Ozoro or Orogun/Abbi.

Itsekiris certainly do not want Warri to be the capital for reasons best known to them.
Abraka, Obiaruku, Ozoro or Orogun/Abbi do not have the lout to be a capital. It's gotta be Warri. Are you sure its the Iteskiris alone that don't want Warri as capital? I think capital or no capital what matters more is forward movement.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:36pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Oga fraud, you said it was agreed that the new Delta will comprise itsekiri, isoko and ijaw and urhobo.

I asked who agreed? And you wouldn't answer.

You're just a petty liar and a fraud selling lies with the platform of Nairaland.
grin Guy you no well
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IJOBA2: 6:36pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
And yet you seem to forget HOW the Itsekiri and Anioma became governors in the first place...


I pity you, truly. Get well soon.
WHEN YOU GO GET SENSE BRUHgrin SO YOU DONT KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ARGUING WITH YORUBAS WHO SEE EVERY ITSHEKIRI MAN AS THEIR BROTHERgrin... YOU REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND THESE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THE MUSLIMS AMONG THEMangry
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m):
supersystemsnig:
I agree, what makes Akwa Ibom different is we can begin to feel forward movement. For the level of resources against intelligence and potential, Delta doesn't impress me
Delta State has always suffered from bad leaders. That's why I laugh at those using ethnicity as a yardstick for who rules the state. Ibori and Uduaghan did nothing for Urhobos and Itsekiris. In fact, Ibori did more but ate far too much to leave any lasting legacy. Okowa has not done much for his own Anioma people.

So who the leaders and their ethnic group help?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:38pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
Oga fraud, you said it was agreed that the new Delta will comprise itsekiri, isoko and ijaw and urhobo.

I asked who agreed? And you wouldn't answer.

You're just a petty liar and a fraud selling lies with the platform of Nairaland.
Okay. Thanks for passing through.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 6:38pm On Sep 24, 2017
chloride6:
A geographical feature as important as the Niger will serve a very wide area and not just it's immediate neighbours. If regions are created tommorow, people as far as Benin will be entitled to the Niger.

Including anioma in the SE would mean that economic and security benefits of the Niger would accrue to the SE regional government.

For instance, all igbos including people as far as Enugu want the Niger dredged because of the total economic effect to the SE.

Similarly, the Niger is of economic benefit to people as far as Benin and not just it immediate n/eighbours in Asaba and Environs.
what is bad if Igbos as far as Enugu are dredging the river Niger

are we not all part of the Igbo race?

it will even aid in the fast development of Igbo land

or why do you think I want anioma zoned to the SE
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 6:38pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
I don't even subscribe to the idea that Warri should be a capital. A capital should be in a central location, not at the periphery or fringe of a state. Delta State's capital should have been in Abraka, Obiaruku, Ozoro or Orogun/Abbi.

Itsekiris certainly do not want Warri to be the capital for reasons best known to them.
The physical location of a state's capital isn't a prerequisite for good development, technology transformation, transparency and accountability.

You're only angry because Delta state capital is in Igbo land.

What a belly-gazing tribal bigot. A petty one at that
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:39pm On Sep 24, 2017
IJOBA2:
WHEN YOU GO GET SENSE BRUHgrin SO YOU DONT KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ARGUING WITH YORUBAS WHO SEE EVERY ITSHEKIRI MAN AS THEIR BROTHERgrin... YOU REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND THESE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THE MUSLIMS AMONG THEMangry
Nah. Yorubas don't have this much hate in them, especially towards Urhobos. We both know those behind the attacks.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:39pm On Sep 24, 2017
Shroud:
The physical location of a state's capital isn't a prerequisite for good development, technology transformation, transparency and accountability.

You're only angry because Delta state capital is in Igbo land.

What a belly-gazing tribal bigot. A petty one at that
Okay. Noted!
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:40pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
Delta State has always suffered from bad leaders. That's why I laugh at those using ethnicity as a yardstick for who rules the state. Ibori and Uduaghan did nothing for Urhobos and Itsekiris. I'm fact, Ibori did more but ate far too much to leave any lasting legacy. Okowa has not done much for his own Anioma people.

So who the leaders and their ethnic group help?
My brother abeg take 2 Don Simon on me abeg.

May God add to your wisdom. Lack of visionary leadership.

I was in Delta for a period of over 8 years expanding into Uduaghan's terim and what i saw was utter underdevelopment. I'm their brothers but shame on them. Delta has too much to be mediocre...Who ethnicity help? Our region suffer a brain and talent drain. Youths wonder aimlessly fighting tribal/ethno battles because they are not engaged and we'll all discussing crap...Iteskiri this, Ijaw that. Who that one epp?
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:40pm On Sep 24, 2017
Scholar212:
God am ashamed when I see supposed educated people still thinking like people from the Pre colonial era, ask yourself an Urhobo man, Itsekhiri, Anioma have all steered the affairs of the state, how has this improved the life of the average individual from this parts of Delta? While Delta state receive one of the highest allocation, my own dear state is stagnant and the present governor is busy commissioning FUEL station in this 21st century. Partisan politics and tribalsim has always been the reason we are in this state when states like Akwa Ibom is developing at a fast pace. If as a graduate and you are still thinking because a candidate is from your Senatorial district or speaks same language then he is the best man for the job then you are "made among men most miserable and your education is a waste of scarce resources ".
Technocrats like Tony Elumelu and Pat Utomi will never be given the chance to rule because they are not known politthiefcians in the state.
When many states are merely existing and waiting for federal allocation to share at the end of the month, people are still clamouring for more states WTF.
OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE O YEA BLIND DELTANS, THE STATE SHOULD THE MOST DEVELOPED IN THE REGION AND YOU GUYS ARE STILL THINKING LIKE YOUR ANCESTORS THAT NEVER SAW THE FOUR WALLS OF A PRIMARY SCHOOL.SMH
God bless you oh. Help us tell them. God bless you
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 6:41pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Abraka, Obiaruku, Ozoro or Orogun/Abbi do not have the lout to be a capital. It's gotta be Warri. Are you sure its the Iteskiris alone that don't want Warri as capital? I think capital or no capital what matters more is forward movement.
The Itsekiris vehemently revolted against Warri as a site for the state capital. They have a right to that so no questions there.

I agree that a state's capital location doesn't indicate much. However, we are all Nigerians. Inasmuch as some of us try to deny the innate ethnocentrism that we have, it is there nonetheless. We all want what's best for our ethnic groups.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 6:44pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
The Itsekiris vehemently revolted against Warri as a site for the state capital. They have a right to that so no questions there.

I agree that a state's capital location doesn't indicate much. However, we are all Nigerians. Inasmuch as some of us try to deny the innate ethnicentrism that we have, it is there nonetheless. We all want what's best for our ethnic groups.
I don't see myself as an ethnic being anymore. I thank the almighty that has delivered me from such frivolities. There's enough resources to go around. Let me chip this in, for over 40 years gas was flared. People's eyes were not opened to the flared gasses for 40 years. Do you know that NLNG delivers about 1.5 Trillion Naira annually? Multiply this by the 40 years of flaring, it means over 60 Trillion Naira equitable to 60 Billion Dollars was flared...Did you no that no tribe fought or thought about the economic impact of the wastage? WHY? Because we didn't see it as a resource, we need to start seeing beyond where we are and should strive towards development, progressive and growth... I'm relocating soon to the ND, i'm tired of the shallow-mindedness.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Efewestern(op): 6:46pm On Sep 24, 2017
fratermathy:
I have always advocated for an Urhobo State, no more, no less. The idea of sharing states with other ethnicities is not productive in a nation like Nigeria where ethnocentrism reigns supreme.

Our leaders need to see things from a better perspective. There's no point sharing a state with Itsekiris (who don't mean us well as this thread even shows), Ijaws (who already have their own state) and I daresay Isoko (whose political machinations do not align with ours to a large extent).
believe me I pity isokos the more, they should continue denying their urhoboness na them sabi, take a look at uvwie, how they benefited with their urhobo stance.

also some mischief are trying to cause issues between itsekiri and urhobo.. use brain in responding to such comments.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 6:46pm On Sep 24, 2017
supersystemsnig:
grin Guy you no well
the dude can't make a simple post without lies and distortions.
Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Kirigidi(m):
fratermathy:
I have always advocated for an Urhobo State, no more, no less. The idea of sharing states with other ethnicities is not productive in a nation like Nigeria where ethnocentrism reigns supreme.

Our leaders need to see things from a better perspective. There's no point sharing a state with Itsekiris (who don't mean us well as this thread even shows), Ijaws (who already have their own state) and I daresay Isoko (whose political machinations do not align with ours to a large extent).
The present so called Urhobo leaders seem to lack foresight. They haven't still learn from the past when they misused opportunities they had to improve the political fortunes of Urhobo. And yet again they are demanding for a New Delta State instead of them fighting for a homogeneous Urhobo State. Urhobo leaders should engage in self-examination and review this kind of outdated politics they've been playing over the years. Urhobo should have by now have their own homogeneous state.
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