₦airaland Forum

aniomafirstson:
Ibadan ijebu and the rest are all inside south west region
we are only asking for anioma to be zoned to the south east
finito

we d south east don't need dem

fratermathy:
Anioma isn't just Ika. There's also Ndokwa (Ukwuani) and Enuani (Anioshimili).

True

supersystemsnig:
I am happy for the SE, God is helping you guys. I saw the Hyundai refinery model that will be built. It will provide over 130,000 jobs. Imagine what multiples of this will do to the SE, it is people like Ifeanyi Ubah who were given licenses to construct refinery and didn't do this that i blame and not the Northerners. Also, research is on-going into the coal in Enugu, It's expensive and isn't cheap...I'm proud of the SE. It's only a matter of time...

Lol u still believe that Hyundai refinery of a thing?


I don't think they are building it ooooo

fratermathy:
You even get time to dey answer that pain-filled youth. Urhobos know themselves. You don't have to convince him of anything whatsoever. If he has met any Effurun person saying he's not Urhobo, then good for both of them .

lol, sometimes it's just impossible to ignore some comments, noticed how they praise "some itsekiris" on this thread because they attacked urhobo?

I really don't know what's there beef with urhobo, urhobo don't give a Bleep about any body.

giles14:
we d south east don't need dem

Really? You don't say.

giles14:
we d south east don't need dem

Who is this thing now


U know nairaland is one faceless blog where people can say trash

supersystemsnig:
You are right bro. I need to belong oh. How far, are you close to home? We the younger generation needs to start hooking up oh. We will offer the Isokos a peace offering and the Itsekiri a brotherly kiss and unite the region in love, peace and equity.

am very close to home, so far have been creating a nice relationship with some itsekiris on this forum even thou we disagree on some issues I still see them as brothers.

Efewestern:
am very close to home, so far have been creating a nice relationship with some itsekiris on this forum even thou we disagree on some issues I still see them as brothers.

I'm looking for platform to join oh. I want to also build relationships with Isoko, Iteskiri. I have been doing this with many igbos and Ibibios around me. I want us to move past this hate that has been handed down to us

Shroud:
Divine and rule? For urhobo? Please slay the thought from from your head.
I meant Okpe. Orogun precisely.

okpe and orogun are not the same dialect.
You don't even know much about urhobo land.

Efewestern:
lol, sometimes it's just impossible to ignore some comments, noticed how they praise "some itsekiris" on this thread because they attacked urhobo?

I really don't know what's there beef with urhobo, urhobo don't give a Bleep about any body.

I tell you. The only Itsekiri on this thread is Onuwaje. Even that so-called Warripekin, or whatever he calls himself, may not be Itsekiri at all. I know that Itsekiris have some rough edges with Urhobos but it is simply not enough to warrant what is visible on this thread. Especially when almost all Itsekiris have one form of Urhobo connection or another.

If you answer those who would use other people's ethnicities to fight proxy wars against Urhobos, you give them more importance and will to do what they intend. Just ignore them, knowing full well that they are simply Ihwo r'niame r'Niger!

fratermathy:
There are only two ways Nigeria will escape this current quagmire:

1. Restructuring the entire nation in lines with the 2014 confab report, as well as the implementation of true federalism (with clearly defined state-ethnic borders) and resource control.

2. Divide Nigeria into 4-6 units, with at best, a loose confederation and at worst.

I think option 2 is better ,creating more states w
under current conditions is brainless(the old system must go) .
A united Nigeria is a win-win for every body, but that unity must be as a result of mutual respect and equality-not as a result of military/political/numerical/economic dominance.
But the problem is that some sections of the country are afraid of change (rightfully so). It's time this present administration brings out the confab report, and work to improve it-the confab was the highlight of gejs administration, because it proved that we can actually sit down to resolve our problems-amicably . This country is regressing ,the next industrial revolution is set to happen in Africa it's left for us to decide to be like either China or like some Middle East countries that failed to take advantage of the last industrial revolution on the Asian continent.

onuwaje:
Well my position is indifferent on the subject matter.

But we shud ask ourselves some questions
1. How have state creation improved the state of the geographical space called Nigeria since 1960?
2. Will creation of more states improve thr Current situation of the country?



Even tho i wasn't born during the pre civil war era i still think we shud go back to the regional phase but with alot of amendments and restructuring


Thank you

I respect your wisdom. We the younger generation needs to come together and build a new society... Even onlien we should begin to discuss and hold these kinds of meetings

fratermathy:
No Isoko person has spoken otherwise on this thread. Those speaking for Isoko or Itsekiri here are only doing what they are good at and what we should be used to by now: speaking for other ethnicities! When they are cornered and rebuffed, they add the ethnicity to their hate list! .

"The Wee People"

eduj:
I think option 2 is better ,creating more states w
under current conditions is brainless(the old system must go) .
A united Nigeria is a win-win for every body, but that unity must be as a result of mutual respect and equality-not as a result of military/political/numerical/economic dominance.
But the problem is that some sections of the country are afraid of change (rightfully so). It's time this present administration brings out the confab report, and work to improve it-the confab was the highlight of gejs administration, because it proved that we can actually sit down to resolve our problems-amicably . This country is regressing ,the next industrial revolution is set to happen in Africa it's left for us to decide to be like either China or like some Middle East countries that failed to take advantage of the last industrial revolution on the Asian continent.

Well said.

Efewestern:
"The Wee People"

Exactly, Oniovo! Don't encourage their low self esteem.

Efewestern:
I totally agree with your points, you can't separate Urhobo from isoko and itsekiri, so I think they should allow us get our own state and let Delta north go with SE since they are always crying of marginalization, my point is that this is not the best time for this now.

Crying of marginalization
When they currently have Okowa as Governor. If any one is being Marginalize, it's the Urhobos.

giles14:
we d south east don't need dem

afonja

Efewestern:
okpe and orogun are not the same dialect.

You don't even know much about urhobo land.

Stop lumping your thoughts into mine. I never said okpe and orogun are same.

I maintained some urhobo ethnicity deny you. Okpe for one and precisely orogun which is close to kwale and is bilingual.

fratermathy:
... If you answer those who would use other people's ethnicities to fight proxy wars against Urhobos, you give them more importance and will to do what they intend. Just ignore them, knowing full well that they are simply Ihwo r'niame r'Niger!

Am yet to see any itsekiri without urhobo link, even some of us are greatly intertwined with the itsekiri. Agitating for only urhobo state means we are letting go of our lands in warri and environs.

IamZod:
Crying of marginalization
When they currently have Okowa as Governor. If any one is being Marginalize, it's the Urhobos.

Apart from governor they said all major infrastructure are in urhobo land and urhobo are oppressing them, we should allow them form their state, it's a win win for everyone

Shroud:
Stop lumping your thoughts into mine. I never said okpe and orogun are same.

I maintained some urhobo ethnicity deny you. Okpe for one and precisely orogun which is close to kwale and is bilingual.

The fact that you think Orogun people deny their Urhoboness reveals you for who you are ! Stop fighting proxy battles and come out straight.

Just for your knowledge: Orogun people are Urhobos and WILL NEVER say otherwise. Only three clans in Orogun (Ebor, Arhagba, one other one) are bilinguals! Even with their bilingualism, they still place premium on their Urhobo identity.


As for Okpe, I've already addressed that. So what next? Ughievwen is not Urhobo?

Efewestern:
Apart from governor they said all major infrastructure are in urhobo land and urhobo are oppressing them, we should allow them form their state, it's a win win for everyone

Which infrastructure do we even have that they don't? I tire for Nigerians o.

Like you said, it will be a win-win for everyone if we all constitute our separate States.

supersystemsnig:
My brother abeg take 2 Don Simon on me abeg.

May God add to your wisdom. Lack of visionary leadership.

I was in Delta for a period of over 8 years expanding into Uduaghan's terim and what i saw was utter underdevelopment. I'm their brothers but shame on them. Delta has too much to be mediocre...Who ethnicity help? Our region suffer a brain and talent drain. Youths wonder aimlessly fighting tribal/ethno battles because they are not engaged and we'll all discussing crap...Iteskiri this, Ijaw that. Who that one epp?

Most of the brains from Delta no send Delta at all. And I no blame them. Abi u expect say mk Elumelu or Emefiele kon dey settle dem James Manager mk dem 4 fit c road. Unto wetin? The political class don divvy up the state. The money wen dey enter the state no dey reach ground b4 dem dey share am finish to the last kobo.

The governors are simply apt at sharing money between the many interests without causing ruckus.

Delta State is on a race to the bottom and the speed with which they're going surprises me.

Delta is in the top 5 for allocation, IGR, and debt; yet there's nothing to write home about the state. All the money just enter some "elders" belle, with crumbs falling to the "youths" who eventually fight amongst themselves for same crumbs. The state no b am abeg. E no get wia u 4 1 start dey reason how to change the situation. Hopeless na understatement.

-Lord

fratermathy:
The fact that you think Orogun people deny their Urhoboness reveals you for who you are ! Stop fighting proxy battles and come out straight.

Just for your knowledge: Orogun people are Urhobos and WILL NEVER say otherwise. Only three clans in Orogun (Ebor, Arhagba, one other one) are bilinguals! Even with their bilingualism, they still place premium on their Urhobo identity.


As for Okpe, I've already addressed that. So what next? Ughievwen is not Urhobo?

Take a pause and see how you're contradicting yourself within same post...." Orogun people are urhobos...only 3 clans are bilingual"

And your head is always stuffed with a huge log of incomprehensibility; I never said Orogon isn't urhobo or not. I said they denied being urhobo.

Should I dummy down further?

fratermathy:
Which infrastructure do we even have that they don't? I tire for Nigerians o.

Like you said, it will be a win-win for everyone if we all constitute our separate States.

oshare I tire, some re even complaining that warri is better than the capital, urhobo has 2 unis, even in Delsu some complain that urhobo don't allow them win SUG president

oshare na many many complain, truth is minority will always feel they are marginalized, reason I don't support lumping any minority with a major group to form a new country.

chloride6:
I never said it is bad for people from Enugu to dredge the Niger.

Im saying that including anioma in the South East is to the advantage of the SE and to the detriment of the SS. Because it cuts them away from the Niger.

so let's say we gave an igboid Biafra now

you expect Igbos to share the river with Nigeria?

Shroud:
Take a pause and see how you're contradicting yourself within same post...." Orogun people are urhobos...only 3 clans are bilingual"

And your head is always stuffed with a huge log of incomprehensibility; I never said Orogon isn't urhobo or not. I said they denied being urhobo.

Should I dummy down further?

Okay. Orogun people are Igbos. Their ancestors migrated from Nsukka, through Aboh, to their current location. Happy now?

fratermathy:
I agree totally. Without prejudice to the good people of Delta North, those of us in Delta South and Central share more in common and should ideally be the ones to constitute a state, with a capital within the region.

Anioma State should be created and zoned to the SE for equity to reign.

I also agree that the oil companies should move their headquarters to the region. It is simply logical to locate the headquarters of an oil company in an oil producing region.

Thanks for your advice but ANIOMA is very capable of functioning as an independent state without the SE and with respect to your statement in the first paragraph I hope you are not insinuating that ANIOMA is a parasite on Delta South/Central. If it's because of the oil, we have it.

warripekin:
Yes the Urhobos are in Delta South but as minorities in Warri south for instance, they occupy only about three wards out of thirteen . We the not have issues with Urhobos either other than political. Delta central voted massively for Uduagha (really? they voted for Ogboru more) because of the Ibori factor. The Ibori political machine still has a strong hold on Delta politics and Uduaghan simply rode on that.

Bross chey you know where warri South is!

JAWBONE:
Thanks for your advice but ANIOMA is very capable of functioning as an independent state without the SE and with respect to your statement in the first paragraph I hope you are not insinuating that ANIOMA is a parasite on Delta South/Central. If it's because of the oil, we have it.

My statement is hinged purely on cultural heritage. No one has mentioned oil on this thread. Everyone is aware of the oil in Ndokwaland.

erico2k2:
Bross chey you know where warri South is!

You dey mind am? That dude fit never even reach Waffi before for e life. Don't waste your time with him.

fratermathy:
You dey mind am? That dude fit never even reach Waffi before for e life. Don't waste your time with him.

everyone who is a person in that warri South Lives in Sapele from chairman to Councillors