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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fratermathy(m): 8:34pm On Sep 24, 2017

aniomafirstson:
this one way you agree with me so

hope i dae safe

We can always agree to disagree or disagree to agree. We both want what's best for our people and that may put us on opposing ends at times.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 8:36pm On Sep 24, 2017

Shroud:
you edited. Scroll up this page, some urhobos here have admitted -- reluctantly -- that there are clans in orogun which speak non-urhobo dialect.

you are now getting me confused here

are you saying orogun are not urhobos?

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 8:37pm On Sep 24, 2017

fratermathy:
Dialectal changes and influences do not mean they dissociate themselves from their ethnic groups.

The Kiagbodo-Ijaw people speak Urhobo far more than Ijaw but that doesn't make them Urhobo people.

You're still listening to the band of disorganized choir revving in your biggoted head.

I didn't say orogun isn't urhobo

My friend didn't say orogun isn't urhobo.

We all know that for whatever reasons they claim they ARE NOT. born and bred in Warri, we know they are little cracks in okpe and orogun areas who deny their roots as you would find elsewhere in other tribes.

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Shroud: 8:42pm On Sep 24, 2017

aniomafirstson:
you are now getting me confused here

are you saying orogun are not urhobos?

Use the screenshots as a guide. My question to my friend was " WHICH PART OF URHOBO DEY ALWAYS SAY DEM NO BE URHOBO"?

In other words, which part of urhobo is denying its root!
It is self-explanatory.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 8:44pm On Sep 24, 2017

Shroud:
Use the screenshots as a guide. My question to my friend was " WHICH PART OF URHOBO DEY ALWAYS SAY DEM NO BE URHOBO"?

In other words, which part of urhobo is denying its root!
It is self-explanatory.

alright

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Myself2(m): 8:44pm On Sep 24, 2017

fratermathy:
And yet you seem to forget HOW the Itsekiri and Anioma became governors in the first place...

I pity you, truly. Get well soon.

Mr Ignoramus, the only beneficiary of Urhobo block votes was Ibori.Uduaghans "victory" was a pyrrhic one ,some say Ogboru even won.However I can tell you for free that Sunny Omene,Edevbie and the leadership of Urhobo Progress Union worked tirelessly against this present governor from the primaries to the governorship elections proper.Some known Ijaw persons provided Okowa with the financial war chest which he used to defeat the Urhobo candidate (David Edevbie) hence Okowa compensated them by picking Otuaro as his running mate/ now deputy governor.The few Urhobo votes that Okowa got were actually courtesy of the efforts of the loyal members of the Ibori political family who decided to stick to their 2007 agreement (I guess you are ignorant about that too ).So Okowa got block votes from his Anioma base,from the Ijaws and Itsekiris while the Urhobo votes were split between O'tega Emerhor, Great Ogboru and Ifeanyi Okowa so please crawl back into that hole of ignorance you brought your stupid self out from

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by chloride6: 8:47pm On Sep 24, 2017

aniomafirstson:
so let's say we gave an igboid Biafra now

you expect Igbos to share the river with Nigeria?

Guy you funny, does the Niger belong to the Igbos.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by KardinalZik(m): 8:48pm On Sep 24, 2017

Danielmoore:
we are all under bendel
Nobody is going anywhere
We will all worship the Benin kingdom

Iseeeeeeeee

...speak for yourself!
I'm an Isoko.
I make bold to tell you that Isoko people have never worshipped, are not worshipping, and will never worship benin kingdom or their gods. We have our gods; even the king of all gods!
We are a culturally distinct and sound people with cultural autonomy.

Revisit your history sources!

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IJOBA2: 8:49pm On Sep 24, 2017

giles14:
we d south east don't need dem

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by aniomafirstson: 8:51pm On Sep 24, 2017

chloride6:

Guy you funny, does the Niger belong to the Igbos.

it belongs to Hausa grin

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IJOBA2: 8:55pm On Sep 24, 2017

Miscellaneous:
We itsekiris will resist any deliberate action to sidetrack us in the scheme of things. We refuse to be in such state where we are further prone to marginalization and oppression. The urhobos have not stated what this hope to solve... Shouldn't they involve stakeholders of Itsekiri kingdom? Or don't they think every tribe has its own view on state creation?

All hail iwere Kingdom!
All hail itsekiris!!
All hail warri kingdom!!!

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by KardinalZik(m): 8:57pm On Sep 24, 2017

Strongly in support.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by giles14(m): 9:08pm On Sep 24, 2017

fratermathy:
Anioma isn't just Ika. There's also Ndokwa (Ukwuani) and Enuani (Anioshimili).

of all who quoted me your's was most positive n educative,

anioma pple or delta Igbo get annoy wen u refer to dem as Igbo ,so its better we manage ourselves (5 Igbo's states) than trying to make a lost people accept who they are.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by giles14(m): 9:11pm On Sep 24, 2017

IgboticGirl:
Who is this thing now

U know nairaland is one faceless blog where people can say trash

my daughter how old are you

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by giles14(m): 9:15pm On Sep 24, 2017

[quote author=IJOBA2 post=60794148][/quote]Am a pure Nwa Anaedo . so go to bed

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by giles14(m): 9:17pm On Sep 24, 2017

[quote author=IJOBA2 post=60794148][/quote]Am a pure Nwa Anaedo . so go to bed

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by suremanpatriot: 9:25pm On Sep 24, 2017

Rubbish! You beta ask ya elders who were constantly settled by successive govts for ya oily money. undecided

naija na place where an individual collects commonwealth of all the masses and use it to play them dummies.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Jimmy231: 9:26pm On Sep 24, 2017

He be like say all this one they mad..... why are you distracting us.... i regret ever be one of you people ooooo... ipob massop u na wan start another one ba

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 9:41pm On Sep 24, 2017

Efewestern:
AGBARHO— MEMBERS of the Pan Niger Delta Forum, PANDEF, from the Urhobo ethnic nationality in Delta and Bayelsa states, have called for the creation of New Delta State , covering the present Delta Central and Delta South senatorial districts, as recommended by the 2014 National Conference.

At a meeting in Agbarho, Ughelli North Local Government Area of the state, to review the forum’s activities, Urhobo- PANDEF members, who also passed a vote of confidence on Chief Edwin Clark, urged the Federal Government to expeditiously attend to the 16-point agenda of PANDEF.

They said: “We support the creation of more states, especially New Delta State , to encompass the present Delta Central and Delta South senatorial zones as recommended by the 2014 National Conference.”

The gathering, presided over by eminent Niger Delta leader, Professor G. G. Darah, had in attendance Professors S. W. E. Iboje, Temi Akporonor, A. S. Akpotor, Atare Otite, Victor Jike, Chief Emmanuel Okumagba, Chief Raphael Okene, Chief George Ugen, Chief Westham Adehor, Chief Ruth Timothy, Dr. Sunny Awhefeada, Mr. Peter Darah, among others. Professor Darah commended the group for convincing youths to lay down arms for dialogue, attributing the gradual economic stability being experienced by the nation to PANDEF’s intervention.

They resolved that oil companies operating in Urhobo land should move their headquarters to the area, while pipeline surveillance and security contracts for oil facilities in Urhobo land should be awarded to the Urhobo people.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/urhobo-pandef-wants-new-delta-state/

Effurun the second capital of Delta non do una?Anioma self want state, who come remain again

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by gregyboy(m): 9:44pm On Sep 24, 2017

the Benin song goes like this benin na good people Urohobo nawa yo....
not to be too prejudiced there is a true sense in that song to the urohobos they are very cunny set of people imaging how power is shared in delta state
to cut d story short no creation of state for delta thier ok like that uf dey like let them kill themselves

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by murphyibiam15(m): 9:46pm On Sep 24, 2017

fratermathy:
And has the National domination by Hausa-Fulani people been any better?

I do agree with you that every state should be constituted by those of same ethnicities. However, the Urhobos, Ijaws and Itsekiris have been living together for ages now and Urhobos have not dominated the others. In fact, quite the contrary, Urhobo is dominated by others, mostly the Itsekiri, who claim to own the entire Warri river region.

frathermathy I have been following your write-ups on nairaland and I must commend you for representing urhobo.. that's by the way..
if anioma state should be created it will remain in SS.. it should not be across the Niger and termed SE... if core easterners need any state it would be constituted from our 5 states Ie Etiti state...we also have adada, Aba, Njaba states as prepositions..

u guys can keep anioma... we no need them now.

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by cybeks(f): 9:48pm On Sep 24, 2017

Myself2:

Fantastic point bro
This is a ploy by some power hungry Urhobo to dominate the Itsekiri
Students of Delta history and politics still remember the acrimony that existed between the Urhobo and Itsekiri when they clamoured for i.e. a Delta state without an Anioma, how they were at each other's throats over where to site the state capital, this was why IBB delivered the master stroke of not creating a separate Anioma state but lumped them with the Urhobos,Ijaws and Itsekiris in what is now the present Delta state but sited the capital in Asaba to assuage the Aniomas.
Some of these funny Urhobo characters giving every other person a bad name have never hidden their disdain for the other tribes in the state especially the Anioma and Itsekiri, however they didn't mind as long as one of us ( Ibori) was governor ,but as soon as an Itsekiri (Uduaghan) became governor,they developed headache, and alas it appears now an Anioma ( Okowa) is governor,they are having heart attacks .
They better beware lest they die for nothing cos personally I see nothing wrong with this present arrangement and the Itsekiris will never allow it happen,they'd rather ask foe another separate state

Pls don't forget that, it is the influence of the urhobo that makes the immediate past governor and present governors won their election.

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by AreaFada2: 9:50pm On Sep 24, 2017

onuwaje:
Well my position is indifferent on the subject matter.

But we shud ask ourselves some questions
1. How have state creation improved the state of the geographical space called Nigeria since 1960?
2. Will creation of more states improve thr Current situation of the country?

Even tho i wasn't born during the pre civil war era i still think we shud go back to the regional phase but with alot of amendments and restructuring

Thank you

State creation is just mere duplication & waste of scarce resources.

We need a regional system. Local councils should have more power. No need for many state executives and the horde of commissioners, tens/hundreds of SSAs & SAs. bureaucracies, etc.

In countries where things work, you can apply for your international passport, id cards and most documents at your local council office. They forward to central system & you collect it locally. Some federal documents are even issued locally. Governance should come to grassroots.

All the tribal big men want to be governors or their kids to get plum state govt jobs.

Many states are unsustainable right now and on FG life support machine. We need fewer, not more states.

Whether we like it or not, people in current Edo & Delta have a lot in common culturally, historically & linguistically. Even Anioma are not that far culturally. It is only since Biafra war that Anioma has been increasingly pushed into Igbo. Yes they are Igbo, Western Igbo but their ethnicity was never an issue to Benin, Urhobo, Esan, Itsekiri, Isoko, Afemai or other people. In fact Anioma in Bendel ensured strong affinity between Bendel & Igbo generally.

I still remember in Diaspora a few short decades back when a core Igbo person would send an Anioma person to me with a phrase like " your Bendel brother down the road can help you, ask for XYZ when you get there".

Urhobo people should know better. They are the largest tribe in Delta and have dominated Delta politics since 1991. Yet it has not made every Urhibo person rich, only a new elite has emerged. Another State be it New Delta or even Urhobo Sate cannot change much. If New Delta is created, then the very communities hosting the most oil wells within the new state will demand for more share of oil money. And the cycle will continue.

We just need a better & sustainable political structure. When things begin to work for ordinary citizens, these incessant agitations will be minimal. But that won't favour the current political elite of Nigeria. So we are stuck.

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by IJOBA2: 9:52pm On Sep 24, 2017

giles14:
Am a pure Nwa Anaedo .
so go to bed

GO AWAY JOOR

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by murphyibiam15(m): 9:58pm On Sep 24, 2017

Efewestern:
lol, sometimes it's just impossible to ignore some comments, noticed how they praise "some itsekiris" on this thread because they attacked urhobo?

I really don't know what's there beef with urhobo, urhobo don't give a Bleep about any body.

e be like tribal identity and acceptance problem full delta state.... why are they not proud of where they come from?

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by quickly: 9:59pm On Sep 24, 2017

Efewestern:
oga we don't have any office in warri, why will they have the headquarters in faraway land like Lagos?

is Lagos more peaceful than other town in Delta? guy talk another tin..

Look at warning for expats from their government.

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Even with all this oi comapnies still have office in Nigeri delta, regardles there is now over surplus of oil plus iran and iraq which was under embargo.
In the long run Oil will be maybe 10-20$ per barrel
Shell have office in Warri somewhere in Ogunnu. there are are thousand working theres
Total have in PH
Exxon have in Eket-there are are thousand working theres
Chevron have somewhere maybe excravos

which ones again

All of there engr and field office are in the niger delta,

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by Nobody: 10:00pm On Sep 24, 2017

IamZod:
Crying of marginalization
When they currently have Okowa as Governor. If any one is being Marginalize, it's the Urhobos.

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by cybeks(f): 10:02pm On Sep 24, 2017*

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fr3do(m): 10:13pm On Sep 24, 2017

Anioma should be created - yes!
she should be zoned to the SE - No!

wetin dey pursue us from the more financed SS, we can be Igbo or Igboid from the SS

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by cybeks(f): 10:16pm On Sep 24, 2017

Please those people should talk on how to make the state better, instead of creating a new state.

Delta state is under developed compare to some SS states in Nigeria

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Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by fr3do(m): 10:17pm On Sep 24, 2017

KardinalZik:
...speak for yourself!
I'm an Isoko.
I make bold to tell you that Isoko people have never worshipped, are not worshipping, and will never worship benin kingdom or their gods. We have our gods; even the king of all gods!
We are a culturally distinct and sound people with cultural autonomy.

Revisit your history sources!

satire my guy, satire

Re: Urhobo-pandef Wants New Delta State by davidif: 10:19pm On Sep 24, 2017

Efewestern:
AGBARHO— MEMBERS of the Pan Niger Delta Forum, PANDEF, from the Urhobo ethnic nationality in Delta and Bayelsa states, have called for the creation of New Delta State , covering the present Delta Central and Delta South senatorial districts, as recommended by the 2014 National Conference.

At a meeting in Agbarho, Ughelli North Local Government Area of the state, to review the forum’s activities, Urhobo- PANDEF members, who also passed a vote of confidence on Chief Edwin Clark, urged the Federal Government to expeditiously attend to the 16-point agenda of PANDEF.

They said: “We support the creation of more states, especially New Delta State , to encompass the present Delta Central and Delta South senatorial zones as recommended by the 2014 National Conference.”

The gathering, presided over by eminent Niger Delta leader, Professor G. G. Darah, had in attendance Professors S. W. E. Iboje, Temi Akporonor, A. S. Akpotor, Atare Otite, Victor Jike, Chief Emmanuel Okumagba, Chief Raphael Okene, Chief George Ugen, Chief Westham Adehor, Chief Ruth Timothy, Dr. Sunny Awhefeada, Mr. Peter Darah, among others. Professor Darah commended the group for convincing youths to lay down arms for dialogue, attributing the gradual economic stability being experienced by the nation to PANDEF’s intervention.

They resolved that oil companies operating in Urhobo land should move their headquarters to the area, while pipeline surveillance and security contracts for oil facilities in Urhobo land should be awarded to the Urhobo people.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/urhobo-pandef-wants-new-delta-state/

See reasoning. Instead of downsizing the govt and reducing the number of states this ones are clamoring for more states? If Bihari had been smart he would get rid of the state's and consolidate them into regions: 6 of them to be exact but this clowns are clamoring for more states?? And they claim to be professors?

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