Daboomb:






The day you do an Inverter System and probably spice it up with Solar Panels, you will come to hate anything called Generator, quiet or not.

And the price difference is not really much (I did not realise too, until l actually ventured into it).

If noise is what really bothers you, then you should be aiming for an Inverter System based on Elelctricity or Solar charging.
You can start with a small capacity but ensure it is expandable such that you increase its capacity bit by bit.

It is easier than we think.

***Sorry if it seems l am putting my mouth into what does not concern me, l cant just hold it back, having seen and enjoyed the benefits, l need to holla to others****

you must always note though that a solar installation has a consumable - the batteries

whalleh:


Thanks for your advise.

@Everyone, please I really do need someone who does german flooking to take on this project. My bricklayer says he can't handle it and has to bring someone from Agege. Can anyone assist me with this on Nairaland?

Engage a patient carpenter to do the formwork ooo
Na wetin carpenter define the concrete pourers will follow
Formwork is very important

oyb:


you must always note though that a solar installation has a consumable - the batteries

The battery life is my concern. On average, you have to replace 8 batteries every three years. 8 batteries from the US is around $4000.

FastShipping:


The battery life is my concern. On average, you have to replace 8 batteries every three years. 8 batteries from the US is around $4000.

KiNdly share battery specification-volts etc,also these eight battery what wil the output yield be in terms of watts/KVA

Cheers

Flaghouse1:


KiNdly share battery specification-volts etc,also these eight battery what wil the output yield be in terms of watts/KVA

Cheers

I was in discussion with a nairaland tech few months ago. He was able to tell me the truth about these gadgets available in Nigeria. The commonly Chinese available gadgets for solar system in Nigeria are mainly from China and don't last long. They cost a lot and warranty on them not more than few months to a year. So he advised I source for my gadgets from the US and gave me names and list of dependable gadgets to buy from the US. Oh boy . The gadgets in the US cost thrice the readily available Chinese gadgets in Nigeria. We were looking at 4-5kva capacity for my consumption. 8 Batteries alone to cost me $4000 at $499.99 each. Charger, inverter, panels etc running into another $4000.

There is this gentleman in property section who is based in Germany that gave me a link for European gadgets as well. The European package suitable for my consumption that I saw online was in the region of 8000 euro.

$8000 or 8000 euro no be beans o. I can't afford to spend that on a house I only want to spend few weeks there in a year.

Hi all, Is It Possible To Change A Building Plan?, i have a 3 Bedrom flat on a half plot of land that's been built up to lintel level, the master bedroom is ensuite but the other 2 rooms are not, i am wondering if its possible to change the other 2 rooms to ensuite and also have the kitchen opened up to the dining area, is this possible?

Daboomb:


This amount will build an Inverter System, with Solar Panels with enough capacity to power a Duplex with at least three AC's running continously, with other household appliances.

Why spend such money on a dangerous, noisy and unreliable alternative like Generator?,

How much would such a system cost??

Thanks in anticipation of your response.

Kaybthaniels:
Hi all, Is It Possible To Change A Building Plan?, i have a 3 Bedrom flat on a half plot of land that's been built up to lintel level, the master bedroom is ensuite but the other 2 rooms are not, i am wondering if its possible to change the other 2 rooms to ensuite and also have the kitchen opened up to the dining area, is this possible?

yeah Its possible, depends on the size.
contact an NL architect like Timtol, am sure he can help you work something out.

olumide4christ:


How much would such a system cost??

Thanks in anticipation of your response.

You can start with jumia

your basic elements are solar panels, charge controller, batteries, inverter

a fully loaded system will be 600 to 700k

FastShipping:


I was in discussion with a nairaland tech few months ago. He was able to tell me the truth about these gadgets available in Nigeria. The commonly Chinese available gadgets for solar system in Nigeria are mainly from China and don't last long. They cost a lot and warranty on them not more than few months to a year. So he advised I source for my gadgets from the US and gave me names and list of dependable gadgets to buy from the US. Oh boy . The gadgets in the US cost thrice the readily available Chinese gadgets in Nigeria. We were looking at 4-5kva capacity for my consumption. 8 Batteries alone to cost me $4000 at $499.99 each. Charger, inverter, panels etc running into another $4000.

There is this gentleman in property section who is based in Germany that gave me a link for European gadgets as well. The European package suitable for my consumption that I saw online was in the region of 8000 euro.

$8000 or 8000 euro no be beans o. I can't afford to spend that on a house I only want to spend few weeks there in a year.

Hello the gentleman is still here, but you are definetely sure of what you are buying and as you know in Europe Solar is gaining grounds so rapidly that if you are Lucky you might cut a deal. i am definetely going Solar no two ways about it the first time buying is really very high but the advantages outweigh the initial cost, and the Batteries i am going for are the Lifepo4 types with DoD till 90% discharge and the battery is still good to go with a 10year warranty

and please and please don't do the cheap china panels, it only brings sorrow, tears & Blood

Alright will do

raymondFirstborn:


yeah Its possible, depends on the size.
contact an NL architect like Timtol, am sure he can help you work something out.

oyb:


You can start with jumia

your basic elements are solar panels, charge controller, batteries, inverter

a fully loaded system will be 600 to 700k

The only charge controller that I will even consider is from SunnyBoy and that alone is close to a million

bixton:



Pardon me but I keep wondering why those called to do justice to this question are yet to attend to it.

Hi Sir,
These designs happen a lot, I have done a number but didn't get to build them.
Truth is, the larger the span of the space in question the more expensive it is to go without internal support. It means you need to use members with great single or combined strength to be able to withstand the weight of the roof and other loads expected on it. Usually timber is out of the question.
Many of such design and construction projects may not have found themselves on Nairaland.

EgunMogaji:


The only charge controller that I will even consider is from SunnyBoy and that alone is close to a million

is it the three or one phase type

desiji:
and please and please don't do the cheap china panels, it only brings sorrow, tears & Blood

No be small oo.. of my client has abadoned the setup real sorrow tears and blood... the guys that install it are no where to be found

raymondFirstborn:


yeah Its possible, depends on the size.
contact an NL architect like Timtol, am sure he can help you work something out.

Thanks boss mi on top.
I stay humble Sir...
God's speed

Kaybthaniels:
Hi all, Is It Possible To Change A Building Plan?, i have a 3 Bedrom flat on a half plot of land that's been built up to lintel level, the master bedroom is ensuite but the other 2 rooms are not, i am wondering if its possible to change the other 2 rooms to ensuite and also have the kitchen opened up to the dining area, is this possible?

Will have to see the plan or a well sketch first.
Thanks

Olumide4christ: How much would such a system cost??

Thanks in anticipation of your response.

EgunMogaji:


The only charge controller that I will even consider is from SunnyBoy and that alone is close to a million

There is a 'possible' misconception here, l think.

A million niara is about $2,700.

A Solar Inverter of such range- amount from Sunny Boy is about 9KW (9,000 Watts) and it is a GRID-TIE inverter.
You wont need that in your house if all you need just enough equipment to generte Power for your household usage.

'Grid-Tie' is when you generate enough energy with so much excess that you want toi "sell" the excess to the Utility company, by tieing your own excess generation, to the Public Utility company such that they pay you money for it in return (You are like PHCN, selling Power to the Public).

That Inverter is a special one and different from what the slef-service user need.

Most households dont use more than a 4-5KW Inverters and they are ordinary Inverters as opposed to Grid-Tie ones.

Let me also mention here that we can take advantage of other alternatives aside using Solar Panels.
For example, you can tie your inverter to PHCN if your area gets around 4hrs of elelctricity in 24-36hrs.
All you need is a Digital Fast Charger and you are good to go.

Batteries are actually the most important part of such alternative energy solutions but there are batteries that you can buy in Nigeria that are as good as those you buy in Europe or US (My Batteries are made in Germany but l bought them in Nigeria. Served me for over 4yrs now and l am sure l will draw at least another 4yrs from them...the Guarrantee was for 10yrs)

The problem most people have with batteries (when they say it does not serve them long enough), is over-drawing the batteries.
You need to ensure that your setup has an inbuilt "warning system" that alerts you once you draw your battery to critical level and at that point, you must either recharge it or shutdown.

How long it lasts (duration of operation) depends on what you load (instant Consumption) on it and the combined size/capacity of the batteries you coupled together.

There is a very good book which anyone can buy, read and become a 'champion' on Solar energy and installations. It is so simple that you will wonder why you have not read it before:
Solar Elelctricity Handbook by Micheal Boxwell (cant remember how much l bught it on Amazon, back then).

Buy it, read it and come back here to give testimony


Cost will depend on a few factors like:
What is the Capacity of say, each A.C you want to use and how many will be on, simultaneously
What other equipments will be 'on' concurrently with those A.C?

Basically, you need to do an "intant energy consumption' calculation that would tell you the maximum power you can draw from the setup at any time.
This is what is now used to determine the capacity of the Inverter, the Capacity/number of Baterries required, Number/Capacity of Panels (if Solar), capacity of Charge Controller, e.t.c.
Finally, how long you want it to operate for, at any time, is determined by the installed battery (storage) capacity.

But not to worry, you can start "small", and increase the capacity in small bits, as the Lord provides.
Start with a PHCN-charging Inverter type.
If you outlay Batteries at say 600K, other materials at 400K, you can get a system that will carry all your household equipments, (AC for just a few hours, if you want it to last long) for about 2days non-stop, no-charging.

Add Solar Panels afterwards, when your pocket gets bigger. (Some people l know cant use Solar because they dont have their own building so for such people, the PHCN-Charging option is their only solution and they make it work well for them!)

If anyone is serious about their intention, l recommend they get the book and do a little research.
Everything in that book is for beginners like me and you, in simplified English with very easy diagrams and calculation.

NB: An inverter is just an equipment that converts D.C current, to A.C current (or vice versa) and it doesnot have to be an expensive Sunny Boy.
There are cheaper but less aesthetic alternatives

desiji:
is it the three or one phase type

Which one be 3-phase for home use Inverter?
Why would you want to go that route?
Which three lines are you hopping from or to, in a Solar setup that just converts D.C current from Inverter to A.C current for household use?

Solar Elelctricity Handbook by Micheal Boxwell, i have the pdf copy, anybody who needs it can whatsapp me.

Daboomb:







There is a 'possible' misconception here, l think.

A million niara is about $2,700.

A Solar Inverter of such range- amount from Sunny Boy is about 9KW (9,000 Watts) and it is a GRID-TIE inverter.
You wont need that in your house if all you need just enough equipment to generte Power for your household usage.

'Grid-Tie' is when you generate enough energy with so much excess that you want toi "sell" the excess to the Utility company, by tieing your own excess generation, to the Public Utility company such that they pay you money for it in return (You are like PHCN, selling Power to the Public).

That Inverter is a special one and different from what the slef-service user need.

Most households dont use more than a 4-5KW Inverters and they are ordinary Inverters as opposed to Grid-Tie ones.

Let me also mention here that we can take advantage of other alternatives aside using Solar Panels.
For example, you can tie your inverter to PHCN if your area gets around 4hrs of elelctricity in 24-36hrs.
All you need is a Digital Fast Charger and you are good to go.

Batteries are actually the most important part of such alternative energy solutions but there are batteries that you can buy in Nigeria that are as good as those you buy in Europe or US (My Batteries are made in Germany but l bought them in Nigeria. Served me for over 4yrs now and l am sure l will draw at least another 4yrs from them...the Guarrantee was for 10yrs)

The problem most people have with batteries (when they say it does not serve them long enough), is over-drawing the batteries.
You need to ensure that your setup has an inbuilt "warning system" that alerts you once you draw your battery to critical level and at that point, you must either recharge it or shutdown.

How long it lasts (duration of operation) depends on what you load (instant Consumption) on it and the combined size/capacity of the batteries you coupled together.

There is a very good book which anyone can buy, read and become a 'champion' on Solar energy and installations. It is so simple that you will wonder why you have not read it before:
Solar Elelctricity Handbook by Micheal Boxwell (cant remember how much l bught it on Amazon, back then).

Buy it, read it and come back here to give testimony


Cost will depend on a few factors like:
What is the Capacity of say, each A.C you want to use and how many will be on, simultaneously
What other equipments will be 'on' concurrently with those A.C?

Basically, you need to do an "intant energy consumption' calculation that would tell you the maximum power you can draw from the setup at any time.
This is what is now used to determine the capacity of the Inverter, the Capacity/number of Baterries required, Number/Capacity of Panels (if Solar), capacity of Charge Controller, e.t.c.
Finally, how long you want it to operate for, at any time, is determined by the installed battery (storage) capacity.

But not to worry, you can start "small", and increase the capacity in small bits, as the Lord provides.
Start with a PHCN-charging Inverter type.
If you outlay Batteries at say 600K, other materials at 400K, you can get a system that will carry all your household equipments, (AC for just a few hours, if you want it to last long) for about 2days non-stop, no-charging.

Add Solar Panels afterwards, when your pocket gets bigger. (Some people l know cant use Solar because they dont have their own building so for such people, the PHCN-Charging option is their only solution and they make it work well for them!)

If anyone is serious about their intention, l recommend they get the book and do a little research.
Everything in that book is for beginners like me and you, in simplified English with very easy diagrams and calculation.

NB: An inverter is just an equipment that converts D.C current, to A.C current (or vice versa) and it doesnot have to be an expensive Sunny Boy.
There are cheaper but less aesthetic alternatives

oyb:


You can start with jumia

your basic elements are solar panels, charge controller, batteries, inverter

a fully loaded system will be 600 to 700k

This JUMIA arrangement seems skeptical to me ,is it tested and trusted ?

Daboomb:


Which one be 3-phase for home use Inverter?
Why would you want to go that route?
Which three lines are you hopping from or to, in a Solar setup that just converts D.C current from Inverter to A.C current for household use?

Inverters comes in either as one phase or 3 phase in depends on the capacity and how high ur KW is. so there is 1 and there phase sunnyboy

desiji:
Inverters comes in either as one phase or 3 phase in depends on the capacity and how high ur KW is. so there is 1 and there phase sunnyboy

Solar is a totally different ball game, a phase can only be allowed for ur pumping machine only another for the A/C in that when the battery reaches a point it switches off that phase that the battery don't get overdischarged capish

Daboomb:


There is a 'possible' misconception here, l think.

A million niara is about $2,700.

A Solar Inverter of such range- amount from Sunny Boy is about 9KW (9,000 Watts) and it is a GRID-TIE inverter.
You wont need that in your house if all you need just enough equipment to generte Power for your household usage.

'Grid-Tie' is when you generate enough energy with so much excess that you want toi "sell" the excess to the Utility company, by tieing your own excess generation, to the Public Utility company such that they pay you money for it in return (You are like PHCN, selling Power to the Public).

That Inverter is a special one and different from what the slef-service user need.

Most households dont use more than a 4-5KW Inverters and they are ordinary Inverters as opposed to Grid-Tie ones.

Let me also mention here that we can take advantage of other alternatives aside using Solar Panels.
For example, you can tie your inverter to PHCN if your area gets around 4hrs of elelctricity in 24-36hrs.
All you need is a Digital Fast Charger and you are good to go.

Batteries are actually the most important part of such alternative energy solutions but there are batteries that you can buy in Nigeria that are as good as those you buy in Europe or US (My Batteries are made in Germany but l bought them in Nigeria. Served me for over 4yrs now and l am sure l will draw at least another 4yrs from them...the Guarrantee was for 10yrs)

The problem most people have with batteries (when they say it does not serve them long enough), is over-drawing the batteries.
You need to ensure that your setup has an inbuilt "warning system" that alerts you once you draw your battery to critical level and at that point, you must either recharge it or shutdown.

How long it lasts (duration of operation) depends on what you load (instant Consumption) on it and the combined size/capacity of the batteries you coupled together.

There is a very good book which anyone can buy, read and become a 'champion' on Solar energy and installations. It is so simple that you will wonder why you have not read it before:
Solar Elelctricity Handbook by Micheal Boxwell (cant remember how much l bught it on Amazon, back then).

Buy it, read it and come back here to give testimony


Cost will depend on a few factors like:
What is the Capacity of say, each A.C you want to use and how many will be on, simultaneously
What other equipments will be 'on' concurrently with those A.C?

Basically, you need to do an "intant energy consumption' calculation that would tell you the maximum power you can draw from the setup at any time.
This is what is now used to determine the capacity of the Inverter, the Capacity/number of Baterries required, Number/Capacity of Panels (if Solar), capacity of Charge Controller, e.t.c.
Finally, how long you want it to operate for, at any time, is determined by the installed battery (storage) capacity.

But not to worry, you can start "small", and increase the capacity in small bits, as the Lord provides.
Start with a PHCN-charging Inverter type.
If you outlay Batteries at say 600K, other materials at 400K, you can get a system that will carry all your household equipments, (AC for just a few hours, if you want it to last long) for about 2days non-stop, no-charging.

Add Solar Panels afterwards, when your pocket gets bigger. (Some people l know cant use Solar because they dont have their own building so for such people, the PHCN-Charging option is their only solution and they make it work well for them!)

If anyone is serious about their intention, l recommend they get the book and do a little research.
Everything in that book is for beginners like me and you, in simplified English with very easy diagrams and calculation.

NB: An inverter is just an equipment that converts D.C current, to A.C current (or vice versa) and it doesnot have to be an expensive Sunny Boy.
There are cheaper but less aesthetic alternatives

You've posted what may be useful for others, but certainly not for me. My bungalow doesn't have to be 5,000 square feet but it is because it's what I want. The very top range of monitored SunnyBoy is what I "want", could be far different from "what" I need.

I know exactly what I want and have done my due diligence. Nairaland is my board for Nigeria centric stuff and that's where it stops. My research on solar power will never be off of Nairaland.

Thanks.

twinskenny:


No be small oo.. of my client has abadoned the setup real sorrow tears and blood... the guys that install it are no where to be found

Unfortunately, this is the way it is all over the world.

The cheapie shyte would never work well and certainly bring heartache in the future.

I'm doing this once and from self-combined parts. It may take me a while and I may deal with NEPA and generator for a while and that's okay with me.

Daboomb:







There is a 'possible' misconception here, l think.

A million niara is about $2,700.

A Solar Inverter of such range- amount from Sunny Boy is about 9KW (9,000 Watts) and it is a GRID-TIE inverter.
You wont need that in your house if all you need just enough equipment to generte Power for your household usage.

'Grid-Tie' is when you generate enough energy with so much excess that you want toi "sell" the excess to the Utility company, by tieing your own excess generation, to the Public Utility company such that they pay you money for it in return (You are like PHCN, selling Power to the Public).

That Inverter is a special one and different from what the slef-service user need.

Most households dont use more than a 4-5KW Inverters and they are ordinary Inverters as opposed to Grid-Tie ones.

Let me also mention here that we can take advantage of other alternatives aside using Solar Panels.
For example, you can tie your inverter to PHCN if your area gets around 4hrs of elelctricity in 24-36hrs.
All you need is a Digital Fast Charger and you are good to go.

Batteries are actually the most important part of such alternative energy solutions but there are batteries that you can buy in Nigeria that are as good as those you buy in Europe or US (My Batteries are made in Germany but l bought them in Nigeria. Served me for over 4yrs now and l am sure l will draw at least another 4yrs from them...the Guarrantee was for 10yrs)

The problem most people have with batteries (when they say it does not serve them long enough), is over-drawing the batteries.
You need to ensure that your setup has an inbuilt "warning system" that alerts you once you draw your battery to critical level and at that point, you must either recharge it or shutdown.

How long it lasts (duration of operation) depends on what you load (instant Consumption) on it and the combined size/capacity of the batteries you coupled together.

There is a very good book which anyone can buy, read and become a 'champion' on Solar energy and installations. It is so simple that you will wonder why you have not read it before:
Solar Elelctricity Handbook by Micheal Boxwell (cant remember how much l bught it on Amazon, back then).

Buy it, read it and come back here to give testimony


Cost will depend on a few factors like:
What is the Capacity of say, each A.C you want to use and how many will be on, simultaneously
What other equipments will be 'on' concurrently with those A.C?

Basically, you need to do an "intant energy consumption' calculation that would tell you the maximum power you can draw from the setup at any time.
This is what is now used to determine the capacity of the Inverter, the Capacity/number of Baterries required, Number/Capacity of Panels (if Solar), capacity of Charge Controller, e.t.c.
Finally, how long you want it to operate for, at any time, is determined by the installed battery (storage) capacity.

But not to worry, you can start "small", and increase the capacity in small bits, as the Lord provides.
Start with a PHCN-charging Inverter type.
If you outlay Batteries at say 600K, other materials at 400K, you can get a system that will carry all your household equipments, (AC for just a few hours, if you want it to last long) for about 2days non-stop, no-charging.

Add Solar Panels afterwards, when your pocket gets bigger. (Some people l know cant use Solar because they dont have their own building so for such people, the PHCN-Charging option is their only solution and they make it work well for them!)

If anyone is serious about their intention, l recommend they get the book and do a little research.
Everything in that book is for beginners like me and you, in simplified English with very easy diagrams and calculation.

NB: An inverter is just an equipment that converts D.C current, to A.C current (or vice versa) and it doesnot have to be an expensive Sunny Boy.
There are cheaper but less aesthetic alternatives

Please explain the impact of charging your non solar inverter with generator in the absence of PHCN

EgunMogaji:


You've posted what may be useful for others, but certainly not for me. My bungalow doesn't have to be 5,000 square feet but it is because it's what I want. The very top range of monitored SunnyBoy is what I "want", could be far different from "what" I need.

I know exactly what I want and have done my due diligence. Nairaland is my board for Nigeria centric stuff and that's where it stops. My research on solar power will never be off of Nairaland.

Thanks.

OH niggur please!!!! arrgggh!!
hush already!!!! you talk too much. too fvcking much!!! I no wan talk before but I just couldnt stand this.
you probably couldnt even afford the midrange quality yet you go just dey make mouth dey make noise.
with all the noise and americana picture wey u dey post since 1970..... I have waited and waited and waited to see the wonders you will unleash in this your 20 years and counting "build" Alas!!! nothing!!
the only beta thing wey you manage use na 70k toilet set . And we have not rested since then, your toilet set is probably on every page of this thread what happened to the rest of the building, you no show us the "top of the range" items wey you use there ??

who ask you how many million square feet your bungalow is ? that your 5,000 square feet cant buy 10 square feet in some places yet landlords in such places are here and dont make noise.

Talkers ain't ballers , ballers aint talkers..


spare us this your "this is just my garage apartment" and " buying Nigeria to grow Nigeria" hogwash, we all too old for that shyt son.


Agbalagba ni e ooo, ma ma se be.

Commonsense101:


OH niggur please!!!! arrgggh!!
hush already!!!! you talk too much. too fvcking much!!! I no wan talk before but I just couldnt stand this.
you probably couldnt even afford the midrange quality yet you go just dey make mouth dey make noise.
with all the noise and americana picture wey u dey post since 1970..... I have waited and waited and waited to see the wonders you will unleash in this your 20 years and counting "build" Alas!!! nothing!!
the only beta thing wey you manage use na 70k toilet set . And we have not rested since then, your toilet set is probably on every page of this thread what happened to the rest of the building, you no show us the "top of the range" items wey you use there ??

who ask you how many million square feet your bungalow is ? that your 5,000 square feet cant buy 10 square feet in some places yet landlords in such places are here and dont make noise.

Talkers ain't ballers , ballers aint talkers..


spare us this your "this is just my garage apartment" and " buying Nigeria to grow Nigeria" hogwash, we all too old for that shyt son.


Agbalagba ni e ooo, ma ma se be.

Bia U nor get chill at all Ohhh, nah competition to build?
U wan drag us back to page 500 ni?
I try to see where Egun yab u I nor see more so guy plz stp using the N** word is so derogatory among us black men in a not so friendly chat

Regarding solar, this YouTube channel was recommended to me by a kind soul on this very thread

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhnGf9YGnXbbDwPWBUrLNQ

I refer to it not for equipment but for the Nigerian perspective.