tbaba1234:
Osmanlispor vs kasimpasa

Omeruo has depreciated badly


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d31m0Et_3H0

Mickael2:
Yes he was their captain at some point but in no way is/was he a Madrid legend. That is the thing, just because you play very well for a team over a long stretch does not automatically make you a legend. Hierro would probably make it into the best 50 madrid players ever but that does not make him a club legend, Mikel wouldn't even make it into Chelsea's top 50 players(he probably should though but he is black)

Icon4s:
Even before reading those comments I already knew those that will be for and against Mikel.

Reminds me of the days of Kanu Nwankwo as a player. No matter what he did some people still never rated him highly.

Finally October is here, our month of World cup qualification.

Happy new month all.

safarigirl:
Thank you for this sir.

Let me see the yeye people that will say Mikel is not a legend on this thread, Nigerians are only good at rubbishing their own and elevating others

Mickael2:



I can't remember the last time Mikel outpaced an opponent

soetanoreoluwa:
Kindly name this players... Thanks


Cc: all

tbaba1234:
Sunday Oliseh's boys
Telstar - Fortuna Sittard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb_L4a2D5bw

somehow:
You and insult sha, which one be yeye people again? What you see is not what others see, learn to tolerate and ignore what does not conform to your bias.

Mickael2:
Yes he was their captain at some point but in no way is/was he a Madrid legend. That is the thing, just because you play very well for a team over a long stretch does not automatically make you a legend. Hierro would probably make it into the best 50 madrid players ever but that does not make him a club legend, Mikel wouldn't even make it into Chelsea's top 50 players(he probably should though but he is black)

tbaba1234:
Kayserispor 3 - 1 Bursaspor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uXiMMh91b0

HeavySigh:
later she will run and report the first thing she doesn't like.
I too have reported her and will keep reporting her whenever she breaks rule 2 until my ban expires.

somehow:
You and insult sha, which one be yeye people again? What you see is not what others see, learn to tolerate and ignore what does not conform to your bias.

HeavySigh:
later she will run and report the first thing she doesn't like.
I too have reported her and will keep reporting her whenever she breaks rule 2 until my ban expires.

goldfish80:
Let's not pretend like we don't know why most people don't see Mikel as a Chelsea legend. I am not saying they are right or wrong but some perspective will do everyone alot of good.

For me, it was pitiful to watch a highly talented player like Mikel reduced to a role of a water carrier. He played with a lot of handbrakes, couldn't venture forward to express himself, he basically lumbered around in his own half,marking out players and providing an extra man for his team to pass the ball to and retain possession.
Look, let's be honest, this role is reserved for technically limited players like Roy Keane, Didier Deschamps and Dickson Etuhu. Mikel was too good a player to be reduced to a lumbering quater back.

If he had played the sort of role he played for Chelsea at the U20 world cup, nobody would have listed him as the better players of the tournament. Why wasn't Sani Keita rated next to Messi in 2005?

We can pretend like we don't know these, I see alot of people on this thread prefer quasi truths. Mikel at Chelsea became an object of mockery when he scored a one off goal off a corner kick against PsG.
The reaction to that goal should indicate what people expected of Mikel at Chelsea.

Yes, he could be a Chelsea legend but he never fulfilled the potential his talent deserved at Chelsea. That is the gospel truth.

safarigirl:
Kog45 understood why I used the term yeye and if YOU had been following the thread, you would know that elyte first of all called people that supported Mikel yeye before I even used the term.

I like how you people never see when others start something, but you keep a keen eye on some. Go back and read through mboj

somehow:
I'm talking attitude here, you are kinda used to that. Take this as an advise which you can ignore, you don't have to take it. Just calm down and tolerate more. You are still very young, tolerance will help you go farther .

safarigirl:
Wow, I missed out on the Mikel legend argument

Anyway, as the VP of Mikel Avengers, I must drop my own points last last

7 REASONS WHY MIKEL IS A LEGEND

1. Mikel is a legend because there is NO way you will discuss Chelsea's UCL win without mentioning Mikel.... When they discuss who skinned a Barca player, who gave a vital pass, who made a vital tackle, Mikel will be mentioned. That is what makes one a legend

2. Mikel is a legend because Ndidi named him as his role model growing up....he didn't name JJ or Kanu, he named Mikel. Makings of a legend

3. Mikel is a legend because Leon Balogun mentioned him as one of his role models

4. Mikel is a legend because he was instrumental to players like Ola Aina playing for Nigeria

5. Mikel is a legend because he was the only top player that did not abandon the team during the Oliseh fracas that had Musa as captain

6. Mikel is a legend because with his maturity has come humility, which is why his SE team mates refer to him as ODOGWU and give him the utmost respect

7. Mikel is a legend because he has covered Nigeria and NFF's shame multiple times, he never complains of ill treatment, is it because him eye never see something for this team? No

So, I take God beg people wey no like Mikel, we are not asking for your like, but please, RESPECT the man enough not to drag his name through mud and laugh at his achievements.

goldfish80:
Let's not pretend like we don't know why most people don't see Mikel as a Chelsea legend. I am not saying they are right or wrong but some perspective will do everyone alot of good.

For me, it was pitiful to watch a highly talented player like Mikel reduced to a role of a water carrier. He played with a lot of handbrakes, couldn't venture forward to express himself, he basically lumbered around in his own half,marking out players and providing an extra man for his team to pass the ball to and retain possession.
Look, let's be honest, this role is reserved for technically limited players like Roy Keane, Didier Deschamps and Dickson Etuhu. Mikel was too good a player to be reduced to a lumbering quater back.

If he had played the sort of role he played for Chelsea at the U20 world cup, nobody would have listed him as the better players of the tournament. Why wasn't Sani Keita rated next to Messi in 2005?

We can pretend like we don't know these, I see alot of people on this thread prefer quasi truths. Mikel at Chelsea became an object of mockery when he scored a one off goal off a corner kick against PsG.
The reaction to that goal should indicate what people expected of Mikel at Chelsea.

Yes, he could be a Chelsea legend but he never fulfilled the potential his talent deserved at Chelsea. That is the gospel truth.

safarigirl:
Thank you for your advice sir, you should take mine too.

Half of the arguments I get into here is from misunderstandings like yours. So, it would be nice if you guys bothered to read post by post to avoid said misunderstandingsmisunderstandings

PS: I have changed a great deal here, if you had quoted me last year with that accusation, I would have rained down insults on you

somehow:
funny enough I know you more than you think I do. Pre-2010 on NL, don't let this ID deceive you.

My point has been made already. Cheers.

EEGA:
Ekoong scores again.
About five months back it was Ndidi.

Nice improvent.

safarigirl:
Wow, I missed out on the Mikel legend argument

Anyway, as the VP of Mikel Avengers, I must drop my own points last last

7 REASONS WHY MIKEL IS A LEGEND

1. Mikel is a legend because there is NO way you will discuss Chelsea's UCL win without mentioning Mikel.... When they discuss who skinned a Barca player, who gave a vital pass, who made a vital tackle, Mikel will be mentioned. That is what makes one a legend

2. Mikel is a legend because Ndidi named him as his role model growing up....he didn't name JJ or Kanu, he named Mikel. Makings of a legend

3. Mikel is a legend because Leon Balogun mentioned him as one of his role models

4. Mikel is a legend because he was instrumental to players like Ola Aina playing for Nigeria

5. Mikel is a legend because he was the only top player that did not abandon the team during the Oliseh fracas that had Musa as captain

6. Mikel is a legend because with his maturity has come humility, which is why his SE team mates refer to him as ODOGWU and give him the utmost respect

7. Mikel is a legend because he has covered Nigeria and NFF's shame multiple times, he never complains of ill treatment, is it because him eye never see something for this team? No

So, I take God beg people wey no like Mikel, we are not asking for your like, but please, RESPECT the man enough not to drag his name through mud and laugh at his achievements.

Kog45:
My man i don't argue to win but to learn and share ideas.Mind u have been in this game since 1980 so it always take a wise ones to understand my points or views

The word legend may connote different meaning to two of us but from my own point of view when some one achieve what nobody has ever achieve,i always a refer to such fellow as a special being and i can term him a legend and to me Di Matteo is a legendary coach Chelsea w never forget,to u he may mean nothing,that's your view which i must respect.

Mujtahida:

If you say Roger Milla is a legend now they won't understand.

somehow:
I have one reservation for the current SE squad, does it mean we have no one who can take accurate FK? By now, we should have a 50% (accuracy) free kick taker.

There was a time Emenike used to take for us, Taiye Taiwo, okocha, oboabona, osaze but of recent, we haven't scored a free kick.

Shouldn't our players be taught this or learn on their own?

Countless times have clubs/countries been saved by FKs.

It's a leverage just like PKs

Mujtahida:

If you say Roger Milla is a legend now they won't understand.