bily:
We like to condemn cars a lot here in Nigeria.

I remember when I bought my Ford SUV, everyone was shouting why I didn't get a Toyota, that I'll spend through my nose to maintain the car.

3 yrs running now, and no single issue with the car. With all the abuse of carrying over 1tonne of feed regularly.


Next thing they say is fuel consumption.. . But that argument looks strange to me.. It's like buying an android phone and complaining about data you for just stick to Nokia torchlight Na.

Ina Kazeem dey destroy car pass for Nigeria.

kingreign:


We talking millennial cars you're talking ancient of days.

No wonder your cat slave lion king said a 301 is better than an S class W222.

Well, same koskos dey do una

toyclicks:


Mr. bros, if you follow intelligently, you will see that the point of argument is not luxury. We are talking about engine strength and reliability here. I can decide to love-vendor a Volkswagen beetle with all the luxury I want. Better still, meet the manufacturers, they can easily give you a customized edition to your taste as long as you can pay.

I believe a lot of automobile manufacturers have had to compromise rugged, die hard, yet easy-to-maintain
Engine models for luxury and eye-catching models ( all dictated by consumer taste which is tending more towards luxury)

kingreign:


Juliet, calm down, you should know peugeot ranks amongst the least reliable automobile brands side by side with daewoo and free lander. Your pijo is wacky wayward and stupid.

Good examples are 605, 607.

For durability and reliability, contact Japanese brands like Toyota, Honda. Their engines even power free landers and speed boats
they're known to outlive their owners if properly maintained.

kingreign:


You want executive or luxury? Get the Asian specs or get a Lexus. Your Peugeot has nothing on these, and can't match any class for class.

gidola:
Kingreign clearly doesn't like peugeot, one will definitely look for flaws in what one doesn't like...

Schiphol:
Haters will always find fault with you if they don't like you. If you dance on water, they will accuse you of raising dust.

Romeo3:
i dont understand the argument.

a corolla is more expensive than a 407.
a corolla is smaller than a 407.
a corolla has less features than a 407.
a corolla's shock absorber is more expensive than a 407.
a corolla's ac compressor is more expensive than a 407.
a corolla's engine is more expensive than a 407's
a corolla's gearbox is more expensive than that of a 407.

a 407 will get you more 5 star ratings than a corolla.
a 407 is more comfortable.
a 407 is faster.
a 407 is cheaper.
a 407 is sturdier.
brand new parts are readily available and less expensive than original brand new corolla parts.
the lighting system is better.
the engine is 100k.
the seats are more comfortable.

ogunvic has been driving his 407 since february. he has never changed his shocks. car has travelled to abuja over 5 times to and fro in that period. car travels to ife and back monthly.

he still makes above 400k on average driving on uber monthly in that period.

what exactly is the argument?

Romeo3:
i dont understand the argument.

a corolla is more expensive than a 407.
a corolla is smaller than a 407.
a corolla has less features than a 407.
a corolla's shock absorber is more expensive than a 407.
a corolla's ac compressor is more expensive than a 407.
a corolla's engine is more expensive than a 407's
a corolla's gearbox is more expensive than that of a 407.

a 407 will get you more 5 star ratings than a corolla.
a 407 is more comfortable.
a 407 is faster.
a 407 is cheaper.
a 407 is sturdier.
brand new parts are readily available and less expensive than original brand new corolla parts.
the lighting system is better.
the engine is 100k.
the seats are more comfortable.

ogunvic has been driving his 407 since february. he has never changed his shocks. car has travelled to abuja over 5 times to and fro in that period. car travels to ife and back monthly.

he still makes above 400k on average driving on uber monthly in that period.

what exactly is the argument?

GAZZUZZ:
we have left uber/taxify matter to start arguing toyota peugeot?

No one is posting earnings again?

As a mechanic and one who has owned both brands, I can tell you about peugeot and toyota from a stand point of experience.


Toyota corrola 2003-2006/7 : wonderful piece of japanese technology.

Lets see some of its good attributes.

Ground clearance: Very adequate for bad nigerian roads.

Suspension: when a corrola that was used well comes into nigeria @ less than 100,000miles, it most times (if not every time) still has the stock CV joints, ball joints, wheelbearings, swaybar links and bushings, and struts. The only parts that would have been changed on a clean titled corrola at that mileage would be brake pads(front)

Now after using for about an average of 20,000miles in nigeria, the common parts to fail on the suspension are swaybar links, sway bar bushings upper strut mounts (total about 20k), . I shit you not, those struts hardly ever fail, and are rock solid if stock in my many years in this line of work I have only replaced the rear struts 2wice.

Engine: unlike the camry 2az-fe that is plagued with the oil shortage issue, the 1ZZ-fe engine is built tough, I have seen stock engines run on 5w30, full synthetic @ 280,000 miles. If a user can be diligent enough to follow manufacturer specification on oil weight, and also use high quality full synthetic oils, I am sure the 1zz-fe will make it to as much as 400,000 miles without issues.

Transmission: same as engine.

Air-conditioning: A/c systems are not designed to run perpetually, like every other part on a vehicle exposed to friction, the A/c system requires a flush and a service at certain intervals to ensure it keeps running fine. Unfortunately a greater percentage of corollas that enter into the country come with front impact which means the a/c system requires some form of work. Trust naija a/c techs, they know how to manage for africa, they cut corners in every possible way by installing wrong parts, and not following proper repair operations. E.g system should be vacuumed and compressor lubricated with ND8 compressor oil preferably synthetic if system has a gas leak sadly 99per of a/c techs do not have a vacuum pump, and they like that 300naira bottle of compressor oil.
Another example, system should be refilled with 550g of refrigerant. Most a/c techs do not have a scale or a pressure gauge so they either over charge or under charge the system.

The air-conditioning of the subject vehicle when stock, or maintained properly is extremely rugged and fault free.

Common parts that fail, cooling fan, compressor clutch.

Exhaust system: the catalytic converter burns out at about 120,00-150,000 miles.
The exhaust system is solid and not prone to leaks unless you buy a flooded vehicle.

Interior: bland and very basic.

Security: easy to steal if you come with the right equipment. The steering I not so easy to unlock, but as I said with the right equipment....

Parts: every part is available in the market. The most expensive single part is the engine, which hovers for about 180,000-230,000 depending on source and condition.

2nd hand value (fantastic) if well taken care of, you could get almost 85per vale back after using for a year without major damages.

Other good pointers.

Can be worked on by almost any technician, very basic in design.


In summary: small sprinter, very economical, excellent value for money, good handling at decent speeds, easy to fix with very little mechanical knowledge.


Next review, peugeot 407.

You deserve a prestigious award Gazzuzz, I have used 4 Toyotas and all things been equal you only need to do basic routine/interval servicing.

olaboy1:


Love your analysis, looking around me here in Europe the number of people driving a Peugeot even though it's an European French auto maker compared to Toyota is like 1/10, 1 for Peugeot and 10 for the Japanese car, not minding that we don't need to pay import duty for a Peugeot manufactured within the EU than the heavy duty fee for Toyota imported from Japan, majority of the people still opt for Toyota and I believe there has to be a reason for that.

Also I don't think you are right with size and price comparison of a corolla and Peugeot 407 Naija use.
It's hard to find Toyota gearbox failing compared to a Peugeot anyway. So somewhere down the line I believe Toyota and Peugeot will break even on overall running costs.

https://www./m/ad/neatly-used-toyota-corolla-2008-ID15TAX5.html?code=76d71a01b5

https://www./m/ad/peugeot-407-very-clean-ID15RxSh.html?code=fe489234c5

Romeo3:
forget about analysis.

you are not sure of what you are saying
you arent sure of what you are typing.

you are typing from what you see around you and i am telling you the facts of what i have experienced on both cars .

i drive on uber. do you drive on uber?
i have driven both the corolla and the 407 over long distances. have you driven both of them over long distances?

you keep saying "you think" and "you dont think". i am talking from experience. can your permutations dispute experience?

you got links from olx. i am here live in the northern part of the north. this is the 3rd day of interecting with dealers and gaining first hand knowledge about peugeot, as well as the price. can you say the same about yourself?

dont argue what you do not know. argue with facts

olaboy1:


I have used Toyota as an official car in Naija and also a Peugeot, so I think I have some experience.

Romeo3:
did you use them in the transport business capacity?

did you travel interstate at all?

olaboy1:


This thread is about Uber and not Ekene Dili Chukwu tours

olaboy1:


Since you are in the north let us know the price of Peugeot then or is it a secret?

Romeo3:
sorry. what is uber?

is uber not transport business?

what a lame attempt to shift goal post talking of ekene dili chukwu.

yes. a peugeot can regularly travel on tours and still carry about the uber business without stress and with minimal fuel economy.

olaboy1:
People have asked for price of the Peugeot many times here and nobody in the north has deem it fit to respond to pricing.

Romeo3:
use your olx, or has your data finished?

olaboy1:


No it's not a lame attempt. People are buying cars for the drivers to driver Uber/taxify in Lagos or Abuja and not to run interstate business. If I want to run interstate I know my to go Toyota for that.

olaboy1:


One of the reasons Naija is not working because of back door magomago and zero reliance on public data when people like you see little things such as the price of a car as a big deal.

Romeo3:
naija isnt working because people like you would rather sit behind a computer and chat sshit, arguing with people who are on ground and actually doing the driving...

i ask again, have you driven a corolla and a 407 on uber?

olaboy1:


Peugeot and volvos are European cars and Europeans who made those cars and their dealerships here all attested to the superior Japanese technology.

This argument was making sense before until you started with your name calling.
I just spoke with my brother now who is a fleet manager in a reputable company and he said Toyota all the way.

Apart from your argument of spacious, size, features for 5 star rating and cheap parts, give us your real life Uber experience (Peugeot/Toyota) driving within the city and not Lagos to Abuja, we are waiting.

Romeo3:
you keep relying on hearsay.

everyone here knows me and my driving.

go sit down

GAZZUZZ:
we have left uber/taxify matter to start arguing toyota peugeot?

No one is posting earnings again?

As a mechanic and one who has owned both brands, I can tell you about peugeot and toyota from a stand point of experience.


Toyota corrola 2003-2006/7 : wonderful piece of japanese technology.

Lets see some of its good attributes.

Ground clearance: Very adequate for bad nigerian roads.

Suspension: when a corrola that was used well comes into nigeria @ less than 100,000miles, it most times (if not every time) still has the stock CV joints, ball joints, wheelbearings, swaybar links and bushings, and struts. The only parts that would have been changed on a clean titled corrola at that mileage would be brake pads(front)

Now after using for about an average of 20,000miles in nigeria, the common parts to fail on the suspension are swaybar links, sway bar bushings upper strut mounts (total about 20k), . I shit you not, those struts hardly ever fail, and are rock solid if stock in my many years in this line of work I have only replaced the rear struts 2wice.

Engine: unlike the camry 2az-fe that is plagued with the oil shortage issue, the 1ZZ-fe engine is built tough, I have seen stock engines run on 5w30, full synthetic @ 280,000 miles. If a user can be diligent enough to follow manufacturer specification on oil weight, and also use high quality full synthetic oils, I am sure the 1zz-fe will make it to as much as 400,000 miles without issues.

Transmission: same as engine.

Air-conditioning: A/c systems are not designed to run perpetually, like every other part on a vehicle exposed to friction, the A/c system requires a flush and a service at certain intervals to ensure it keeps running fine. Unfortunately a greater percentage of corollas that enter into the country come with front impact which means the a/c system requires some form of work. Trust naija a/c techs, they know how to manage for africa, they cut corners in every possible way by installing wrong parts, and not following proper repair operations. E.g system should be vacuumed and compressor lubricated with ND8 compressor oil preferably synthetic if system has a gas leak sadly 99per of a/c techs do not have a vacuum pump, and they like that 300naira bottle of compressor oil.
Another example, system should be refilled with 550g of refrigerant. Most a/c techs do not have a scale or a pressure gauge so they either over charge or under charge the system.

The air-conditioning of the subject vehicle when stock, or maintained properly is extremely rugged and fault free.

Common parts that fail, cooling fan, compressor clutch.

Exhaust system: the catalytic converter burns out at about 120,00-150,000 miles.
The exhaust system is solid and not prone to leaks unless you buy a flooded vehicle.

Interior: bland and very basic.

Security: easy to steal if you come with the right equipment. The steering I not so easy to unlock, but as I said with the right equipment....

Parts: every part is available in the market. The most expensive single part is the engine, which hovers for about 180,000-230,000 depending on source and condition.

2nd hand value (fantastic) if well taken care of, you could get almost 85per vale back after using for a year without major damages.

Other good pointers.

Can be worked on by almost any technician, very basic in design.


In summary: small sprinter, very economical, excellent value for money, good handling at decent speeds, easy to fix with very little mechanical knowledge.


Next review, peugeot 407.