₦airaland Forum

tsdarkside:
western nations will not sell us the newest weapons even if we have the money, if african nations around us feel threathend...

we must separate from african nations...they are holding us back...

africans love playing balance of power under themselfs...they are not interested to become strong in the world...they just want to be stronger than other blacks...nothing else...

ocelot2006:
If the West won't sell to us, then we look EAST. Countries like India have proven that EASTERN combat platforms are excellent. These weapons suit our needs far better than Western systems that are maintenance intensive.

ocelot2006:
Oh my....ignorance is truly A DISEASE. You really think that Russia is like the USA that hoardes its equipment for flimsy reasons? Uganda was sold the Su-30 FLANKER, Angola just took delivery of its of Su-30 FLANKERS (a 4th gen aircraft comparable to the US F-15 Eagle). Chad has been sold the Su-24 FROGFOOTs and the Mig-29 FULCRUMs. Zambia was sold the advance 4th Gen YAK trainer/light attack jet. I don't even want to mention Algeria and Egypt who've sold major assets from FLANKERS to FULCRUM jets, Mi-35Ms HINDS to Mi-28 and KAMOV KA-50 BLACKSHARKS ATTACK HELICOPTERS, SA-300 SAM BATTERIES, T-90 MBTs to TERMINATORS.

Yet you're here spewing crap about RUSSIA not selling grade A weapons to us.

It is NIGERIA that ABSOLUTELY UNSERIOUS. As much as the Super Tucano will serve our combat air support requirement during COIN Ops, it along with our present assets are absolutely insufficient to address the defence needs of our airspace. And the cost of acquiring those turboprop aircafts is simply OUTRAGEOUS! We have no interceptors, no decent ground attack jets, no strike fighters, or at least a decent multirole aircraft. Without a

baralatie:
Russia sold jets to Algeria,Uganda but it dies not change the fact that they are not selling new jets to Nigeria for reasons known to them.
PMB administration has been to Russia it is nothing!
Do you think Nigeria will go to Pakistan to purchase a $600 million worth of farm irrigation propeller planes if Russia is willing to sell and deliver to Nigerian soil su_ 30 fighters at $60 million a piece.

tsdarkside:
nigerians dont even understand what the word reverse engineering is...

anything you see today,you can copy...may not end up like the original but its something...

or you will even meet nigerians with inferiority complex that will tell you blacks cant reverse engineer....

EternalTruths:
I may not like your anti Biafra stance but you got this one right.

Reverse Engineering should be one of the starting pillars.

ocelot2006:
If the West won't sell to us, then we look EAST. Countries like India have proven that EASTERN combat platforms are excellent. These weapons suit our needs far better than Western systems that are maintenance intensive.

baralatie:
Russia sold jets to Algeria,Uganda but it dies not change the fact that they are not selling new jets to Nigeria for reasons known to them.
PMB administration has been to Russia it is nothing!
Do you think Nigeria will go to Pakistan to purchase a $600 million worth of farm irrigation propeller planes if Russia is willing to sell and deliver to Nigerian soil su_ 30 fighters at $60 million a piece.

EternalTruths:
Stop looking East but start developing yours by challenging your citizens and corporate organizations to use their personal money to develop advance military technology with the promise that you will reward them with millions & billions.

tsdarkside:
exactly...like this we wouldnt need the west or the east...we just concentrate on stealing technologies and building things ourselves....

much cheaper...

ocelot2006:
Russia has not sold anything to us because WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR ANYTHING! It's that simple. And us going to Pakistan for the JF-17 is for obvious reasons: The JF-17 is CHEAPER than the Su-27/30 and the Mig-29. SIMPLE! Russia has weapons embargo on Nigeria. Hell, they'll even sell their mothers to us for the right price!

Btw the outrageous $600mil Super Tucano turboprop deal is between Nigeria and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not Pakistan.

SSBN:
Alpha jet is is trainer aircraft. It will not survive a triple A environment. Sending young pilots to their early grave for what?

tsdarkside:
russia is just playing the game of interests...they are under siege too...you cant blame them too much...

and they risk too that the nigerians will betray them in the future...nigerians love for america is insane...although the americans never cared about them...

but the russians sold us some attack helicopters....

the day we nigerians start showing heavy disdain for america,then the russians will start selling us much more...if we start thinking like north korea then the russians would be even dashing us weapons for free....

point and case:

Algeria,Uganda dont like america...

ocelot2006:
Russia has not sold anything to us because WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR ANYTHING! It's that simple. And us going to Pakistan for the JF-17 is for obvious reasons: The JF-17 is CHEAPER than the Su-27/30 and the Mig-29. SIMPLE! Russia has weapons embargo on Nigeria. Hell, they'll even sell their mothers to us for the right price!

Btw the outrageous $600mil Super Tucano turboprop deal is between Nigeria and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not Pakistan.

ocelot2006:
Russia has not sold anything to us because WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR ANYTHING! It's that simple. And us going to Pakistan for the JF-17 is for obvious reasons: The JF-17 is CHEAPER than the Su-27/30 and the Mig-29. SIMPLE! Russia has weapons embargo on Nigeria. Hell, they'll even sell their mothers to us for the right price!

Btw the outrageous $600mil Super Tucano turboprop deal is between Nigeria and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not Pakistan.

EternalTruths:
You don't need to steal technologies.

Just make a financial reward in millions & billions to those who will successfully develop useful military technologies and you will know that Africans are gifted.

kozmicity:
After reading this article...i was forced yo birn the "midnight data" on Wikipedia.
I saw a lot of 4th and5th gen aircrafts Nigeria could purchase from China for about $35million per unit(PS,they range from,bombers,reconnaissance,stealth operations.e.t.c....i.e.multirole jets)and it got me thinking that why doesn't the FG want to purchase these jets(mostly built in 2000-2005) than waste $600million on junk from the same junk??

ocelot2006:
Who told you Uganda don't like America. The USA has a detachment of army Special Forces Operation Detachment Alpha (ODA) soldiers stationed in Uganda with the sole purpose of training the Ugandan Army and assisting them in the hunt for the Lords Resistance Army (LRA) rebel group along its northern border with Southern Sudan. Will you call that hatred for America? Again ignorance.

tsdarkside:
i know their are many blacks in their industries.....a igbo man was among those that invented the internet that we use today....

but how many blacks know that fact??...we were all brainwashed to think we cant achieve anything....

baralatie:
Nigeria went to Russia and did not ask?
so that means the jf_17 with pakistan/china deal has soured!
chai!

tsdarkside:
exactly....we must brake the ties to western nations by force...see what happened to ghadaffi when he started thinking on his own...

we may even have to go to war against them to prove that we are free people...

but how many african nations will agree to that...??..

they already shitt their panties when they hear only the word white...

thats why i say nigeria must separate from africans...or else we will continue to be trapped...

EternalTruths:
Africans are gifted but the useless souls in powers including their idiotic supporters all over Africa are not ready to reward those who can developed outstanding military technologies.


Let the government promise #1 billion naira for any Nigerian who develops a jet engine and watch how Nigerians will develop that engine in 10 years.


This country lack people who wants to see Nigeria on the world map.

ocelot2006:
Probably because the contract was inflated for kickback purposes. Someone needs to buy are new house at Maitama and take care of his mistresses.

tsdarkside:
did you forget idi amin that made them look like fools??..you think the americans forgot that??...ugandans are just playing the game of interests too...when things change they will show their real face...

tsdarkside:
russia is just playing the game of interests...they are under siege too...you cant blame them too much...

and they risk too that the nigerians will betray them in the future...nigerians love for america is insane...although the americans never cared about them...

but the russians sold us some attack helicopters....

the day we nigerians start showing heavy disdain for america,then the russians will start selling us much more...if we start thinking like north korea then the russians would be even dashing us weapons for free....

point and case:

Algeria,Uganda dont like america...

kozmicity:
Not seperate,why not try another word like motivate...some are cowardly because they don't have the name,resources,political clout and military to develop rapidly...maybe we should stop using our country standards to measure others,we might have a shot at it.
If the South Africans,Kenyans,Egyptains(maybe),Ghanians and Nigerians have this your vision not to be limited(I dislike the breakup part tho...I'm an unapologetic African man...you can call it pride )you'll see how the other smaller nations will rally to out side because "United we stand,divided we fall"(still waiting for my Biafra brothers to understand that...)And we're 1000%percent sure that we'll win and Africa will no longer be a third world continent but a nation yo reckon with.
(Jhus my opinion...im always open to debates and ideas)

ocelot2006:
Nope there's absolutely NONE.

EternalTruths:
Stop looking East but start developing yours by challenging your citizens and corporate organizations to use their personal money to develop advance military technology with the promise that you will reward them with millions & billions.