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Is Christianity Still Relevant? by lindabon: 5:50pm On Oct 21, 2017
I’ve grown and seen so many Christians who live and breathe hypocrisy and this is just sad. This is not the way forward, and we can’t keep living in denial expecting things to change. For all Christians, it will be worth noting that the earlier these issues are addressed, the better as failure to accept the discrepancy in Christianity and its holy book (the bible), will soon lead to its death, as we can see in most western countries. I will also like to add that although other religions may have similar problems, this is meant to address issues with Christianity because Christianity is the religion I was born into and I have knowledge of. Its a discussion for Christians, but can also be for other religious adherents who may have the same concerns.
I'm happy to be proven wrong with a counter and superior argument. 

1. Bloodshed and violence in Christianity:
The idea that the Bible only offers a message of love, forgiveness, and charity is untrue.
"I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh" (Deut. 32:42).
When Joshua conquered the city of Ai, God commanded that he take away the livestock and the loot, while exterminating the inhabitants which he did.
God orders King Saul to strike at the Amalekite people, killing every man, woman, and child, and even wiping out their livestock (1 Samuel 15:2-3). 
And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.(Numbers 25:4)
 1 Samuel 15:3: "This is what the Lord Almighty says ... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

For those who would say that it's all in the old testament, please note that Jesus himself, together with the New Testament and the historic-orthodox Church and present day churches, embrace the entire Old Testament, including these violent portraits of God, as divinely inspired for the ultimate purpose of bearing witness to him (e.g. Jn 5:39-45) and especially to his death and resurrection (e.g. I Cor 15:3). I thus do not believe we are free to simply reject these portraits. Though we can’t consider them to be accurate reflections of God’s character, they must nevertheless somehow bear witness to the revelation of God in the crucified Christ.


2. Christianity is the root of the racism and segregation by white people on other races (blacks suffering the most in their hands), which still affects minority races even today. There are several verses in the bible that supports the ideas that some ethnic groups were saved or that some were superior to others. The fact that blacks are fervent believers, ignoring the pain and misery it brought on its own people is sad and heartbreaking. First of all, there is the constant claim that Jews are the “chosen people”. Now surely a history of the Jews should teach a strong lesson of the dangers of declaring one group of people superior to all others. It always ends in trouble. Just ask the Germans.


Numbers (verses 1-13): When the Israelites began to intermarry(commit whoredom) with the Moabites, a neighboring ethnic group with a different religion, God commanded Moses to smite “hang them. One man who married a Midianitish, was killed by an Israeli, Phinehas, who killed both couples with a JAVELIN. Phinehas was then rewarded by God with the covenant of peace and the covenant of everlasting priesthood. Moral of the story, “God does not want you to mix with people other than your own”

(Deuteronomy 23:3)
An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever;” Non-Israelis were banned from joining the religion. “

Matthew 15:22-8
“And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying; Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.” 

This verse is always used to show how compassionate and tolerant Jesus is because he healed a Canaanite woman. But hold on a minute. He initially refused to speak to her merely because she was different. He also declared that he was only sent to care for the Israelites and only they will be saved. It was only after she is forced to beg and worship him, grovel and compare herself to dog eating crumbs, that Jesus decided to heal her daughter. 


Invasions, racism, segregation, colonialism are all based on the idea that one race is superior to another. How can we not see this? Colonial masters came and gave this religion to us claiming that our ancestors have committed so much sin, but look at the trail of bloodshed that the religion came to us with. At least our ancestors never thought themselves superior to other races. Yes, they fought tribal wars but it was never based on invasions and the need to exploit other people's natural resources leaving them with nothing but a broken, poor, vulnerable and terrorized race, with a sense of inferiority. Now they have gotten what the want, (enriched themselves), they have abandoned the religion and have left it for us. Look back in our history and look at our society now, were has Christianity taken us to? Well, pastors for one are taking advantage of it though; Private jets, lavished lifestyle, but what about the poor hungry masses?


3.Christianity supports slavery.

Do we want to forget that the culprits of the mass slavery of blacks in the transatlantic trade were European, who justified their diabolical acts with views held in the bible
• Abraham, the “father of faith,” and all the patriarchs held slaves without God’s disapproval (Gen. 21:9–10).
• Canaan, Ham’s son, was made a slave to his brothers (Gen. 9:24–27).
• The Ten Commandments mention slavery twice, showing God’s implicit acceptance of it (Ex. 20:10, 17).
• Slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, and yet Jesus never spoke against it.
• The apostle Paul specifically commanded slaves to obey their masters (Eph. 6:5–cool.
• Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master (Philip. 12).



4.Christianity supports Misogyny (Hate against women):
Christians must face the harsh truth; THE BIBLE IS HUGELY MISOGYNISTIC. We live in a world rife with misogyny and governed by patriarchy.
This I believe is because the bible was written by men, so they had to construct it in a way that was favorable to them. If women were included in writing this great book, I’m sure the bible would have had a balanced approach, rather than one which empowers men on one hand and disempowers women on the other. Rape and domestic violence against women have all been aided by this idea that women are lesser than men and men can do whatever they want to do to them.


“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.” (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
1 Corinthians 11:9, "for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake."
Colossians 3:18, "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord."
1 Timothy 2:12–13, "But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve."
1 Peter 3:7, "You husbands likewise, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with a weaker vessel, since she is a woman; and grant her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered."



I’m of the view that we should Stop reading the Bible like a car manual:
There are still so many Christians who read the Bible like a car manual or a science textbook, rather than a collection of historical writing, poetry (and, dare I say it, fiction) that it is. There are many intelligent people of faith who would never dream of reading a poem or even a newspaper, thinking that what they’re reading is 100% empirically true then and forevermore; yet when it comes to the Bible they throw all their God-given interpretative faculties out the window, because they believe that scripture is divinely inspired in such a literal way that it’s as if the ‘truths’ of the Bible have been dropped out of heaven, completely intact and written out word-for-word.
We have to find a way to reconcile the Bible with the present day.

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Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by greatnaija01: 6:01pm On Oct 21, 2017
pls abraham n those u mentioned were not christians... Jesus gave relevance to women... but you would not see it cos your mind is using a wrong light. its well. Continue in your thinking till you become an atheist... YOU BETTER CARRY YOUR BIBLE and pray and find God for yourself.

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Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by respect80(m): 6:15pm On Oct 21, 2017
That is how they keep displaying their height of ignorance all in the name of trying to form atheist.
If you had dedicated the time you used to copy and paste this on NL to seek God sincerely you would have found him already.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by Nobody: 6:21pm On Oct 21, 2017
greatnaija01:
pls abraham n those u mentioned were not christians... Jesus gave relevance to women... but you would not see it cos your mind is using a wrong light. its well. Continue in your thinking till you become an atheist... YOU BETTER CARRY YOUR BIBLE and pray and find God for yourself.

so is God of Abraham different from the one that sent Jesus?

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Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by enilove(m): 6:38pm On Oct 21, 2017
4.Christianity supports Misogyny (Hate against women):
Christians must face the harsh truth; THE BIBLE IS HUGELY MISOGYNISTIC. We live in a world rife with misogyny and governed by ......





Answer is :


Misogyny means hadred of women. But the bible says in :

Ephesians 5:22-25 KJV
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
[23] For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
[24] Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
[25] Husbands, LOVE your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;


It also says in:

Colossians 3:18-22 KJV
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
[19] Husbands, LOVE your wives, and be not bitter against them.
[20] Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
[21] Fathers, provoke not your children to anger , lest they be discouraged.
[22] Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:

In any setting ,formal or informal there is always a leader. If there is no leader nothing great or good can be achieved. If there is need for a leadet, are you saying the women shiuld be the head or leadet? Leadership does not mean lack of love or freedom for the followers.


Misogyny is not applicable to Christianity . If it means hatred of women , why this FAKE criticism when it is written in the Bible you quoted that we should love our wives :

Ephesians 5:28-31 KJV
So ought men to LOVE their wives as THEIR OWN bodies. HE THAT LOVETH HIS wife LOVETH himself.
[29] For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
[30] For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31] For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be ONE flesh.


I don't have time to go through the entire posts but I might reply later on .
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by TI1919(m): 7:02pm On Oct 21, 2017
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Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:08pm On Oct 21, 2017
OP, WE ALL WERE A TRANGRESSOR...BY ONE MAN "ADAM" WE BECAME USELESS TO GOD THE GREAT POTTER...

WE DESERVE TO BE DISCARDED BY HIM...BUT GOD WAS MERCIFUL AND GRACIOUS TO MAKE A WAY WHERE THERE IS NO WAY FOR OUR...FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON THE GOODNEWS OF JESUS CHRIST.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by greatnaija01: 10:05pm On Oct 21, 2017
Madam pls use wisdom FOR ONCE....

were their missions the same?

did abraham die for u?

were they in the same time frame or do you not know that to every thing there is a SEASON and time.?

Proudgorgeousga:


so is God of Abraham different from the one that sent Jesus?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by lindabon: 10:07pm On Oct 21, 2017
greatnaija01:
pls abraham n those u mentioned were not christians... Jesus gave relevance to women... but you would not see it cos your mind is using a wrong light. its well. Continue in your thinking till you become an atheist... YOU BETTER CARRY YOUR BIBLE and pray and find God for yourself.

There are other people mentioned in the post not just Abraham.
Is anything wrong with atheists? Are they lower humans because you worship God and they don't? I did mention that Christianity makes us think we are superior to others. By refering to atheist in such condescending manner, you are looking down on them. Is that holy?

enilove:
4.Christianity supports Misogyny (Hate against women):
Christians must face the harsh truth; THE BIBLE IS HUGELY MISOGYNISTIC. We live in a world rife with misogyny and governed by ......





Answer is :


Misogyny means hadred of women. But the bible says in :

Ephesians 5:22-25 KJV
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
[23] For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
[24] Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
[25] Husbands, LOVE your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;


It also says in:

Colossians 3:18-22 KJV
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
[19] Husbands, LOVE your wives, and be not bitter against them.
[20] Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
[21] Fathers, provoke not your children to anger , lest they be discouraged.
[22] Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:

In any setting ,formal or informal there is always a leader. If there is no leader nothing great or good can be achieved. If there is need for a leadet, are you saying the women shiuld be the head or leadet? Leadership does not mean lack of love or freedom for the followers.


Misogyny is not applicable to Christianity . If it means hatred of women , why this FAKE criticism when it is written in the Bible you quoted that we should love our wives :


Ephesians 5:28-31 KJV
So ought men to LOVE their wives as THEIR OWN bodies. HE THAT LOVETH HIS wife LOVETH himself.
[29] For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
[30] For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31] For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be ONE flesh.



Misogyny is not applicable to Christianity . If it means hatred of women , why this FAKE criticism when it is written in the Bible you quoted that we should love our wives :

Why this FAKE criticism? here is why:


“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.” (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
1 Corinthians 11:9, "for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake."
Colossians 3:18, "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord."
1 Timothy 2:12–13, "But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve."
1 Peter 3:7, "You husbands likewise, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with a weaker vessel, since she is a woman; and grant her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered."


You also stated that:
In any setting , formal or informal there is always a leader. If there is no leader nothing great or good can be achieved. If there is need for a leadet, are you saying the women shiuld be the head or leadet? Leadership does not mean lack of love or freedom for the followers.


If a man should lead in all things, let's pick traditional roles of gender for instance. Why does a man not lead in Housework? Why does a man not lead in breastfeeding his own child? and why does a man not lead in childbearing or labor during pregnancy? After all, he should lead a woman in all things. Women are strong enough to carry out these cumbersome tasks, yet you imply that they are not capable of being leaders. Wow!!!

If we ever want to create a balanced and fair society, we should adopt a progressive way of thinking that will include both genders working alongside each other and stop implying that one gender is superior or better than the other. Model A describes total separation of male and female roles, while Model B describes the complete dissolution of gender roles;


Education:
Model A – Total role segregation:
Gender-specific education; high professional qualification is important only for the man
Model B – Total integration of roles:
Co-educative schools, same content of classes for girls and boys, same qualification for men and women.

Profession
Model A – Total role segregation:
The workplace is not the primary area of women; career and professional advancement is deemed unimportant for women
Model B – Total integration of roles:
For women, career is just as important as for men; equal professional opportunities for men and women are necessary.

Housework
Model A – Total role segregation:
Housekeeping and child care are the primary functions of the woman; participation of the man in these functions is only partially wanted.
Model B – Total integration of roles:
All housework is done by both parties to the marriage in equal shares.

Decision making
Model A – Total role segregation:
In case of conflict, man has the last say, for example in choosing the place to live, choice of school for children, buying decisions
Model B – Total integration of roles:
Neither partner dominates; solutions do not always follow the principle of finding a concerted decision; status quo is maintained if disagreement occurs.

Child care and education
Model A – Total role segregation:
Woman takes care of the largest part of these functions; she educates children and cares for them in every way
Model B – Total integration of roles
Man and woman share these functions equally.

My question to you is, do you want to continue with segregation or do you want the integration of both men and women? It's your choice.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by lindabon: 10:12pm On Oct 21, 2017
respect80:
That is how they keep displaying their height of ignorance all in the name of trying to form atheist.
If you had dedicated the time you used to copy and paste this on NL to seek God sincerely you would have found him already.

Will calling someone "ignorant" make you a better human being? Will name calling take you to heaven? Expressing one's view isn't ignorance. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What is your own opinion?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by greatnaija01: 10:16pm On Oct 21, 2017
lol so Jesus who called pharisees brood of vipers is not holy bah? of course he is to you a fictional character. Madam, God is real, only a FOOOL will say there is no God... FOOOLs are simpletons who are mentally or psychologically weak to accept a way of life when they do not have all the answers.

If I have not had a personal experience of Jesus Christ and I do not mean Visions then I may just be like you too.

lindabon:


There are other people mentioned in the post not just Abraham.
Is anything wrong with atheists? Are they lower humans because you worship God and they don't. I did mention that Christianity makes us think we are superior to others. By refering to atheist in such condescending manner, you are looking down on them. Is that holy?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by OtemSapien: 10:19pm On Oct 21, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


so is God of Abraham different from the one that sent Jesus?
I suppose the god of abrahamumu wanted to erase his past errors, so he had to kill his carpenter son with two nails.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by OtemSapien: 10:20pm On Oct 21, 2017
greatnaija01:
lol so Jesus who called pharisees brood of vipers is not holy bah? of course he is to you a fictional character. Madam, God is real, only a FOOOL will say there is no God... FOOOLs are simpletons who are mentally or psychologically weak to accept a way of life when they do not have all the answers.

If I have not had a personal experience of Jesus Christ and I do not mean Visions then I may just be like you too.

pls share your personal experience of fictitious Jesus.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by lindabon: 10:20pm On Oct 21, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
OP, WE ALL WERE A TRANGRESSOR...BY ONE MAN "ADAM" WE BECAME USELESS TO GOD THE GREAT POTTER...

WE DESERVE TO BE DISCARDED BY HIM...BUT GOD WAS MERCIFUL AND GRACIOUS TO MAKE A WAY WHERE THERE IS NO WAY FOR OUR...FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON THE GOODNEWS OF JESUS CHRIST.


1.Trangressor
2.Useless
3.Discarded

You already used these harsh words and then tried to end it on a lighter note. By using harsh words, you made it clear that you wish the worst for anyone that has not found Christ. I would not wish such things even on my own worst enemy. Really sad we use religion to justify condemnation of others.

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Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by greatnaija01: 10:24pm On Oct 21, 2017
lol oteim you are here. I wont. kindly go on google and see many many real experiences... BUT there again with your mindsets.... u will be able to debunk them n mock them n it wont change u... so I wont waste my time

OtemSapien:
pls share your personal experience of fictitious Jesus.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by OtemSapien: 10:27pm On Oct 21, 2017
greatnaija01:
lol oteim you are here. I wont. kindly go on google and see many many real experiences... BUT there again with your mindsets.... u will be able to debunk them n mock them n it wont change u... so I wont waste my time

So u have to go on google b4 bringing your personal experience? That's weird undecided
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by lindabon: 10:30pm On Oct 21, 2017
greatnaija01:
lol so Jesus who called pharisees brood of vipers is not holy bah? of course he is to you a fictional character. Madam, God is real, only a FOOOL will say there is no God... FOOOLs are simpletons who are mentally or psychologically weak to accept a way of life when they do not have all the answers.

If I have not had a personal experience of Jesus Christ and I do not mean Visions then I may just be like you too.



A Christian who claims to be pure and holy calling others "Fools" just because they dare to have a different opinion. Do you genuinely believe calling other people fools, simpletons and weak is what will take you to heaven?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by greatnaija01: 10:30pm On Oct 21, 2017
are u blind? didnt u see me write that I wont share it? you just want to expose your nature tonight.... lol... you cant keep up o. GOD WILL NOT PROVE HIMSELF cos your existence is already proof of God.


OtemSapien:
So u have to go on google b4 bringing your personal experience? That's weird undecided
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by OtemSapien: 10:37pm On Oct 21, 2017
greatnaija01:
are u blind? didnt u see me write that I wont share it? you just want to expose your nature tonight.... lol... you cant keep up o. GOD WILL NOT PROVE HIMSELF cos your existence is already proof of God.


Who's talking about God proving himself? It was fictitious Jesus we were talking about, not God Almighty, the creator of Yahweh, Allah and all these little gods. God lives inside of me and you and he's not separate from me and you. The difference is that you take God as a fictitious carpenter, but I see God inside me.

So now, back to the topic, what are your personal experiences with fictitious Jesus?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by greatnaija01: 10:54pm On Oct 21, 2017
Jesus did it and used the word the right way and he is in heaven... oya go n judge him na


lindabon:



A Christian who claims to be pure and holy calling others "Fools" just because they dare to have a different opinion. Do you genuinely believe calling other people fools, simpletons and weak is what will take you to heaven?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by lindabon: 11:08pm On Oct 21, 2017
greatnaija01:
Jesus did it and used the word the right way and he is in heaven... oya go n judge him na



But you are not Jesus Christ?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bloodofthelamb(m): 11:17pm On Oct 21, 2017
lindabon:



1.Trangressor
2.Useless
3.Discarded

You already used these harsh words and then tried to end it on a lighter note. By using harsh words, you made it clear that you wish the worst for anyone that has not found Christ. I would not wish such things even on my own worst enemy. Really sad we use religion to justify condemnation of others.
IF I TELL YOU OTHERWISE I WILL BE LYING TO YOU...THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED "CHRIST JESUS" THE FREE GIFT TO ALL MAN, HAVE NO FUTURE...

"IF I TELL YOU THERE IS ANOTHER WAY, I WILL BE DECEIVING YOU"
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bloodofthelamb(m): 11:26pm On Oct 21, 2017
lindabon:



A Christian who claims to be pure and holy calling others "Fools" just because they dare to have a different opinion. Do you genuinely believe calling other people fools, simpletons and weak is what will take you to heaven?
APOSTLE PAUL LAYED A CURSE ON THOSE PREACHING ANOTHER GOSPEL, THEREBY DECEIVING MANY TO DAMNATION AND CONDEMNATION..
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by greatnaija01: 11:28pm On Oct 21, 2017
I caught u.... so you actually believe in him

lindabon:


But you are not Jesus Christ?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by lindabon: 9:11am On Oct 22, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
IF I TELL YOU OTHERWISE I WILL BE LYING TO YOU...THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED "CHRIST JESUS" THE FREE GIFT TO ALL MAN, HAVE NO FUTURE...

"IF I TELL YOU THERE IS ANOTHER WAY, I WILL BE DECEIVING YOU"

greatnaija01:
I caught u.... so you actually believe in him



bloodofthelamb:
APOSTLE PAUL LAYED A CURSE ON THOSE PREACHING ANOTHER GOSPEL, THEREBY DECEIVING MANY TO DAMNATION AND CONDEMNATION..


None of you can produce a counter-argument. Quoting scripture and scaring people into accepting your religious ideas is not a way to win an argument. This is what religious folks do. Use fear to win souls. Ever wondered why the most religious countries score high on both corruption and poverty level? Nigeria is a very good example. Churches littered left-right and center but yet, the people wallow in corruption and acute poverty. What you are doing is nothing new. You use religion to excuse your condemnation of others and your sense of entitlement.
No matter your religion, the most important thing is to treat people with dignity and respect. If you are dark and hateful on the inside, if you do not care for people, if you have no morals, then you are just a horrible person regardless of your religion. Break bread with people even if they are different from you. Show love to your neighbor regardless of their religious orientation. Let God be the judge, not man. These are also some of the things your religion preaches, alongside other mixed messages. Do not just pick and choose the part of the bible that appeals to you. No one is perfect. So who are you to judge other people? Condemnation does not liberate, it only oppresses.
Happy Sunday, and remember to show love and compassion to your neighbor. Everyone deserves human kindness even if they are different from you. Human kindness is demonstrated by good deeds. The Bible teaches you that you must treat all strangers with human kindness. Kindness is a key Christian value that God desires for all of you to possess and to show to others. These are parts of the bible that I personally believe in. Not the fear tactic, the hate, the condemnation, the sense of superiority, the bloodshed, the complete lack of human compassion, the arrogance, and the segregation against people of different faith. You are not better than anyone else. Stay blessed and Stay humble!
Have a nice day.

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Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bahaushe1: 10:07am On Oct 22, 2017
respect80:
That is how they keep displaying their height of ignorance all in the name of trying to form atheist.
If you had dedicated the time you used to copy and paste this on NL to seek God sincerely you would have found him already.

Kindly take each point she raised and give us the 'right' view. She qouted the scripture and gave interpretation, do same and let's read your own version.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bahaushe1: 10:11am On Oct 22, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
OP, WE ALL WERE A TRANGRESSOR...BY ONE MAN "ADAM" WE BECAME USELESS TO GOD THE GREAT POTTER...

WE DESERVE TO BE DISCARDED BY HIM...BUT GOD WAS MERCIFUL AND GRACIOUS TO MAKE A WAY WHERE THERE IS NO WAY FOR OUR...FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON THE GOODNEWS OF JESUS CHRIST.

How can the whole of mankind bear the sin of one person? Never.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bahaushe1: 10:17am On Oct 22, 2017
greatnaija01:
Madam pls use wisdom FOR ONCE....

were their missions the same?

did abraham die for u?

were they in the same time frame or do you not know that to every thing there is a SEASON and time.?


So Jesus actually died? Who is in charge of our affairs now then?
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bloodofthelamb(m): 11:43am On Oct 22, 2017
bahaushe1:


How can the whole of mankind bear the sin of one person? Never.
BECAUSE WE BECAME THE SEEDS/OFFSPRINGS\SONS\CHILDREN OF THAT ONE MAN{ADAM}...CORRUPTION BEGAT CORRUPTION, SIN BEGAT SIN....BUT THANK GOD FOR CHRIST JESUS WHO BROUGHT ME OUT OF THE LINEAGE OF ADAM THE TRANGRESSOR AND PLACED ME IN THE LINEAGE OF CHRIST THE HOLY ONE..
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bloodofthelamb(m): 12:13pm On Oct 22, 2017
IF I BE KIND AND GRACIOUS TO YOU WITHOUT LETTING YOU IN ON THE TRUTH. I HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT WICKEDNESS... SECONDLY, CHRIST IS MY PERFECTION. BASE ON THIS TRUTH I DECLARE THAT I AM PERFECT..

THIRDLY, "IF TRUTH MEANS CONDEMNATION, I WILL RATHER CONDEMN THE MORE"..PEACE AND HAVE A LOVELY SUNDAY!
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by bloodofthelamb(m): 12:17pm On Oct 22, 2017
lindabon:


But you are not Jesus Christ?
AS JESUS IS SO ARE WE..YOU CANNOT SEPARATE BELIEVERS AND CHRIST JESUS OUR HEAD...I AND CHRIST JESUS IS ONE.
Re: Is Christianity Still Relevant? by lindabon: 2:02pm On Oct 22, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
IF I BE KIND AND GRACIOUS TO YOU WITHOUT LETTING YOU IN ON THE TRUTH. I HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT WICKEDNESS... SECONDLY, CHRIST IS MY PERFECTION. BASE ON THIS TRUTH I DECLARE THAT I AM PERFECT..

THIRDLY, "IF TRUTH MEANS CONDEMNATION, I WILL RATHER CONDEMN THE MORE"..PEACE AND HAVE A LOVELY SUNDAY!
bloodofthelamb:
AS JESUS IS SO ARE WE..YOU CANNOT SEPARATE BELIEVERS AND CHRIST JESUS OUR HEAD...I AND CHRIST JESUS IS ONE.

No sir. You are not perfect. You make mistakes just like everyone else.

3. Isaiah 64:6 All of us are dirty with sin. All the right things we have done are like filthy pieces of cloth. All of us are like dead leaves, and our sins, like the wind, have carried us away.

4. Ecclesiastes 7:20 There is not a righteous person on earth who always does good and never sins.

5. Psalm 130:3-5 Lord, if you punished people for all their sins, no one would be left, Lord. But you forgive us, so you are respected. I wait for the Lord to help me, and I trust his word.



Let's stop picking parts of the bible that only suits our purpose. We are all equals in the sight of God and we all make mistakes. You go to God for forgiveness when you make mistakes, but you instantly down anyone that makes mistake, be it not accepting your views on Religion.
You will make mistakes, and your Friends will make mistakes, but just as God forgives you for your sins, forgive others.

11. Matthew 6:14-15 Because if you forgive people their offenses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive people their offenses, your Father will not forgive your offenses.”


Live and let live. You have every right to hold your religious beliefs, but let others do the same as well, without resorting to denigrating them. I did not say that the bible is total garbage. I am saying that we need to pick the progressive parts of the scripture. The part that can get our society to where it needs to be. The current trend of religiosity in our country has lead to the rise of blatant hypocrisy. That's why people worship pastors instead of seeing them as men of God who are also flawed human beings. That's why our society is rife with corrupt politicians who practically plunder our resources. A good example is the 2011 election. Jonathan is a Pentecostal Christian of the Southern Ijaw tribe, and Buhari a Sunni Muslim and northern Fulani. Violence broke out after the 2011 race, leading to 800 deaths and 65,000 displacements in the north

Yet after killing each other, these people still leave us broken, helpless and hopeless. If someone is quick to use God as a defense mechanism, be highly suspicious of them because many times, they take advantage of our good nature. They think that we are stupid. Until we learn to accept that what is wrong is wrong and until we stop looking the other way when these people use religion, power, and privilege to undermine our people, Nigeria can bath in religion from now till tomorrow, but we will never move forward if we don't call a spade a spade. Regardless of someones religious orientation, If you see something wrong or someone doing something wrong, say its wrong. Our society is a mess because we allow a lot of nonsense to get swept under the rug. There is nothing wrong with your religious belief, but also stand up for what is right and just. Stand up for what is for the good of our people because If we want a better future for our kids, we need to stop allowing this trend of the rich and powerful getting away with their atrocities in the name of religion. Hold your beliefs close to your chest but don't allow yourself to be fooled by these lots who use us to play ping-pong all because of their own greed and selfishness.

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