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DopeBoss:
I still dnt get why everything dis guy posts is always concerning Tithe

Iamzik:
What's the title and download link please?

unitysheart:
So much misinformation by the clergy class. There was more than one tithes that the "law covenant" brought upon the Israelites. They were to bring a tenth of different things and these tenths are for different purposes. There's a particular tenth that can be paid in cash but to pay it in cash you must add additional fifth to it.

Additionally, there's a particular tenth of animal offspring that's expected to be brought in. This and many other tithes are for the direct benefits of the levies and the priests. A tenth of whatever is given to the Levites as tithe is also given to the priests. This is because these two classes of people do not work.

However, there's another tenth that is a form of contribution to be made by each person to the temple. This is gathered througout the year and is used for the benefits of all worshippers who come to the temple for the annual festival. All the worshippers will wine and dine with whatever is gathered as this particular tenth.

Question is, are Christians under the law covenant?

Did the apostles who were directly under the tutelage of Jesus and who took over after him have a job of their own or not? Is there anywhere in the Bible that it was recorded that the early Christians were compelled to pay their tithes?

Apostle Peter had a family and he took care of them. Luke was a physician. Paul was a tent maker, despite that he was a traveling overseer. Moving from one congregation to the other. While it was expected that the brothers would take care of some of his expenses, however, please note what Apostle Paul said below to the Thesasalonians:

1 Thessalonians 2:9
New International Version
Surely you remember, brothers and sisters, our toil and hardship; we worked night and day in order not to be a burden to anyone while we preached the gospel of God to you.

New Living Translation
Don't you remember, dear brothers and sisters, how hard we worked among you? Night and day we toiled to earn a living so that we would not be a burden to any of you as we preached God's Good News to you.

He also said to the Corinthians:




◄ 2 Corinthians 11:9 ►
New International Version
And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so.

New Living Translation
And when I was with you and didn't have enough to live on, I did not become a financial burden to anyone. For the brothers who came from Macedonia brought me all that I needed. I have never been a burden to you, and I never will be.

Lastly, please note the kind of giving that God appreciates:

2 Corinthians 9:7

Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

From the above what can we deduce?

1. Christians are not under the law covenant. If they are they'll be expected to also offer up animal sacrifices.

2. Church leaders are not supposed to feed off their congregation. They are not levites and as such they can work to earn their living. However, if they have tí be financially supported so that they can face their clergy work, they shouldn't be seen living a flamboyant lifestyle while their congregants are in penury. How many church goers can enroll their children in school owned by their church today?

3. God loves a cheerful giver. There will be times when church goers should rally around fellow members and the church as a whole. It could be when a member has a very serious issue to care for and it may be when there is an important project to be embarked upon by the church. As such times, members are expected to increase their contributions so that they can truly be a brother born for when there's distress or calamity. Otherwise, let each person do just as his heart has resolved.

I drop my pen here.

Khonvicted:
This daddy freeze and tithe matter sef av tire person jare


I'm convinced he paid for this to get to FP, like how uncle puppi is accused of buying IG verification

LastSurvivor11:
Daddy Fridge abi daddy freezer, why are you always arguing with people

Spylord48:
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This man should stop spoiling business for some of these pastors. Don't he know that unemployment is too much in this country?

Drniyi4u:
It's daddy Fridge again, oni wahala somebody. Always giving pastors headache

Chartey:
I don't attend church.

driand:
where in the Bible please?

Chiedu4Trump:
Joshua conquered all because of God's blessings NOT tithes.


Deuteronomy 11:25
There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the Lord your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you.

Now Our Blessings are in Jesus not Tithes.
Noitce it says ALL not some

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


So choose which is better, money or Jesus

ericsmith:
Its time you n daddyfreeze tell the world una real problem with tithe,,,keep ur money and believe ,,everyone
as the right to do with there money as they please,, God wonnt dip hand into ur pocket neither as any pastor point gun to any church members head to pay tithe ...we all av our choices nd it should b respected.. can someone tell daddy freeze he as full right not to even attend church 4life .. people paying tithe aint fools if its not profitable trust nigerians ..

asuustrike2009:
Since you don't attend church then don't say what you don't know. That you observed many churches misbehaving doesn't mean they all behave alike

BluntBoy:
How do you mean by tithing works for you? Do you mean you get blessed when you tithe?

PrimadonnaO:
Yes...financially and otherwise.

BluntBoy:
Well, that you draw a connection does not mean the blessings come because of tithing or that the blessings even means that God is happy with your act.

The best way for a Christian is to follow the scripture. If you tithe according to the Law, it means that Jesus's sacrifices really wasn't worth it. For why should you remain under the Law when the death of Christ has liberated you?

Chartey:
That I don't attend church presently doesn't mean I didn't attend for most of my life or that I'm not Christian.
Every true Christian should be dissatisfied with the state of the present day church. It's bad, really bad and not what Jesus wants.

PrimadonnaO:
I don't see it as putting myself under the law. I see it as returning to God a portion of what He gave to me...I see it as utilising a kingdom secret of financial prosperity.
Very importantly, I'm operating strictly by faith...

BluntBoy:
Any scriptural backing for this kingdom secret of financial prosperity?

This evidently sounds like prosperity theology but I am willing to learn a lot more about it.

Chiedu4Trump:
Joshua conquered all because of God's blessings NOT tithes.


Deuteronomy 11:25
There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the Lord your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you.

Now Our Blessings are in Jesus not Tithes.
Noitce it says ALL not some

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


So choose which is better, money or Jesus

PrimadonnaO:

John 12:24
(King James Version)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.


Genesis 8:22
(King James Version)
While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

As I said earlier, do what works for you. I chose to run with these. May be to fulfill all righteousness, but also because I feel right about it.

Chartey:
I hope you are not a Christian. If you are, then you'll know it's a sin to call someone "fool" but it's not a sin not to pay tithe.
Christians nowadays know very little of the Bible. Most are not even qualified to be called Christian but the churches don't mind, there's "grace", just "pay your tithe".
These days tithers are called to the altar every Sunday but altar calls for salvation are so rare now.
The tithes are accepted not caring about the salvation status of the person paying the tithe.
Christianity is dead.

victorazyvictor:
Oga u must provoke God to attract His blessing or curse, tithing is one of them.

Chartey:
I hope you are not a Christian. If you are, then you'll know it's a sin to call someone "fool" but it's not a sin not to pay tithe.
Christians nowadays know very little of the Bible. Most are not even qualified to be called Christian but the churches don't mind, there's "grace", just "pay your tithe".
These days tithers are called to the altar every Sunday but altar calls for salvation are so rare now.
The tithes are accepted not caring about the salvation status of the person paying the tithe.
Christianity is dead.

Chiedu4Trump:
The Law does not make anybody perfect!
Heb 7:19
For the law made nothing perfect!

What makes us perfect before God is the sacrifice Jesus made for us.

Colossians 1:28
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom;
that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

If tithing could get you favor with God or save us, Jesus would not have died.

QUESTION
What do you think carries more weight in heaven?

The Blood Jesus shed for you and I

Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament,
which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

OR

The tithes you pay?

Remember that the Silver & Gold already belongs to God.

Haggai 2:8
The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts.



In fact believing that things will work because you tithe means;
you are saying to God that the sacrifice Jesus paid is not good enough and you need to add more to it.

And the bible is clear that all our blessings are in Jesus Christ and not our tithes.
Notice it says ALL!
So everything we want Jesus has paid for it, so tithes cannot get it.

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

So the law of tithing does not bring favor.

victorazyvictor:
your just quoting verses of Bible, your not making a point from your on perfecting on what you understood the verses was talking about.

pweetiedee:
Freeze is right. its his "arguing" that's annoying. must he reply all?

BluntBoy:
Do what works for you is terrible. We have the Bible and the Holy Spirit. We can't just do anything because it works.

The Bible verses you quoted did not shed light on this kingdom secret.

From how you have said tithing is some kingdom secret of financial prosperity, I can see just where the problem lies. But one thing I want you to know is that the Bible never promised us an easy life for even being for Christ. The apostles never got wealthy for even being directly called by Christ. They faced persecution and never had an easy life like your bishops promise you. There is nothing like kingdom secret of financial prosperity. Our calling is straightforward and unambiguous. We are to preach the Good News and not prosperity. We are to seek the Kingdom of God not seek for wealth from God. We are to give from our hearts and not give with the expectations of receiving a bounty.

All such vain words as kingdom secret of financial prosperity only edify your heart in its quest for things of this world. It makes us more selfish and more greedy. It makes us give just because we want to receive. It is a bad way of teaching acts of love and generosity. The Christians of old never gave to receive. They gave to help the needy ones among them. The act of giving that the Apostles taught was true and it made believers selfless. It took the hearts of believers away from earthly treasures that can be destroyed and placed their hearts on God. Early Christians were selling properties not to gift the apostles but to help a needy one. They loved one another and the love was true. The love of selfless giving not the selfish love practised today.

This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD. (Jeremiah 23:16)

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. (2 Timothy 4:3-4)