Kennydoc:


I don't know how much you earn per month, but just compare yourself to 'lucky' graduates in Nigeria who earn ₦100k per month. Can you survive on such a salary if you live and work in Ikoyi? Yet Ikoyi can't compare to most American cities in terms of infrastructure and social amenities.

Lol @ 100k per month at Ikoyi, that's like 50k on Tfare and 50k take home pay

timesup234:
well with 250k you can get a nice two bedroom in most states in Nigeria

and what’s the percentage that make 250k

FrankNetter:


Your ignorance is deafening.

Leave him to wallow in it.....

gbzed:


The same Western countries that hide money for our politicians

no be your useless politicians carry una collective money go dump for there?

Shikena:

Actually, it does. We have such stories across America.
My cousin's girlfriend was already working as a BSN when he landed in America. He settled down big time within 6 months and is doing huge things in Nigeria today.

Don't mind the guy jare, he's got a lot to learn about life and how to make real comparisons.
The few months I worked outside the country in a legit way and had opportunities to interact with professionals, my orientation changed, what I earned after tax no be here. There is nothing that can be compared to living and earning legally as professionals abroad to Living in Nigeria. Nigeria is wacked.
That's why you still see Dino melaye with all his stolen cash will still be proud to upload pics of him in a metro station on the internet. It means there is no life in naija.

1 naira = 375 dollar
Who paid this op to post nonsense
zombies want to bite

thebosstrevor:


many of you claim you came back to invest in nigeria but we havent seen any of your investments and talk of changing the country

Nobody claim nigeria is perfect but you guys think everybody in nigeria is suffering and that is not the truth.the behaviour of we are superior than people at home,thank god for internet,we hear of the police brutality on blacks and troubles of racial discrimination,when we hear this,we know all is not well in that america "the land of the free"

there are many homeless people in newyork alone than the number of mad men on nigerian streets.

You don't have to see my investments - I see my own investments, my banks in Nigeria can see them, those working for me can see them, my family and friends can see them. That is my own little contribution and I know about numerous others doing even more and those that are just starting.

I do not think everybody in Nigeria is suffering because I go home frequently and I have eyes but I know that we can do way better as I see brilliant young people wasting away. America has issues and all is not well and there are poor people but that doesn't change the fact about rewards for excellence in America - and Nigerian immigrants are taking advantage of this daily alongside other immigrants. A man with a known and verified Kenyan father just ruled America for 8 years.

Again, it is important that we know where we should be and stop accepting mediocrity on the grounds that 'there are poor people in New York'.

Slaveman343:
No I see desperate people trying to protect an illusion they have created for others that is far from reality. I don't see any balanced view here, all I hear from Nigerians over there is that Nigeria is bad and America is good because they have stable power and water supply and good roads. This argument is no longer holding water anymore since Nigeria is catching up already.

Please mention those areas where nigeria is catching up...
I'm interested...
Thanks in anticipation...

timesup234:
It is the plain truth. It is impossible to save 10kusd annually in the united states, even those with a paying job of $75,000 cant save that much. Do you know what it means to have $100,0000 in cash in america? 85% of americans dont have it and i am even talking about first class citizens

I want to take ur side on this issue. But it appears u are not doing justice to ur case. The real basis for comparisons shud be purchasing power of income and then the standard of living if the individual in the society. Someone who earns $50000/pa and lives frugally in US will be able to build a storey building modestly in nigeria within 3 years. This is a fact.

My brother works in a hospital in UK as a radiographer and earns about £45000/pa. He makes reasonable investment in naija annually

supersystemsnig:


Even ICT guys in Nigeria can rake in $10,000 Monthly and $120k Per year if the work is done right, doesn't require being in USA, it's having the knowledge and knowing what do to, the opportunities online are not well harvested by Nigerians. I'm ashamed seeing Indians everywhere and Nigerians are busy submitting CV, walking upandan when there are chances to rake in cash

But what percentage of ICT guys are making salary of $10,000 monthly in Nigeria as a starter . Bro this is not an argument of superiority , it’s just like an enlightenment and discussion.
We can’t compare naija with USA in all ramifications.
Yes most Americans live on loan but that is due to their system, they prefer you buy things on mortgage than paying full cash . If you want to buy a house here , you won’t pay cash in full it will be mortgaged and you’ll pay per month and it’s usually a low amount at which you can pay your full amount for the period of 25years or more. That’s the same for cars also and a lot of other things. So because people always say they live on loan doesn’t mean they don’t have money , it’s just that they need to pay some loan back and that even help them build up their credit history. If you’re here you’ll understand .
What I’m just saying is that don’t compare the percentage of people working here legally in a good firm with people working in naija , even after the high standard of living here , professionals here will still be able to rake in far far more money than their counterpart in Nigeria .
Thanks

thebosstrevor:
Many ignorant people talking nonsense,they haven't even travel abroad before,life as a menial worker in the west/america is hard as hell compare to life as a menial worker in Nigeria,at least in Nigeria people have empathy to give you things if you are broke also i prefer to be a BAnk manger in naija than a menial worker in the west/america,but if i have opportunity to be a bank manger of a mid size or large bank in the west/america then i am a rare breed because,i will have access and exposure to many opportunities than the average citizen and be better off than a bank Ceo in Nigeria but to be frank this is very hard to do. Also dont get me wrong,A bank manger in nigeria has access to many opportunities in Africa especailly in the banking sector/economy.

Menial jobs in the west/europe is just pure savage,taxi drivers,waiters, dish washers,people that give advert on street,window cleaner and many others, (you know your selfsmiley) collects below minimum wage and most times depend on tips,life is hard,winter,summer,you are working,saving is hard to do because you spend as you receive,tax first,heater,gas,internet,electricity bills etc,you live life on the edge,no peace of mind,god forbid you are a illegal then that is red card.the day you lose your job is the beginning of homelessness,friends might even deny you existence when it comes to help.

let me not start with those that think they can do taxi jobs,you need a special licence,taxi jobs are competitive except you want to carry only Nigerians which is also competitive even uber in europe/america,you have to have a car that suits there requirement,life of a taxi driver in europe/america is just pure nonsense,i also prefer to be a uber driver in nigeria than in ameria/west.

for those working savage jobs ,taxi drivers and the rest converting to naija currency anytime they pay you,i guess it is inferiority complex/failure and because you have settled for less,so the best way to console your self is to convert and think you are better off than nigerians living in nigeria.

Naija can be tough,no rule of law,constant electricity or water but life in naija is easy,in europe,you might have free medical care everything free but you pay for them with your tax,once you stop paying tax,all those amenities are closed to you.in american it even worst,nothing is free in america,

And for those that think relocating or giving birth to their in america will provide your children a better life in the future,you will be disappointed to be welcome to the student loans /mortgage association after been in mortgage/studnt loan debt which you also have to be qualified to get one,you will then ask yourself in the future,does it worth it, then wake up to the reality that all your life has been in debt which will passed from generation to generation.

frankly speaking,i prefer giving birth to my children in europe,at least i will have access to free stuff like education and medical care even if poorsmiley

for quality of life which you have to pay for such as electricity,internet etc and as a professional,europe/america might be better but for real cash and future big and fat bank account without debt Nigeria is better.

I still prefer to be a menial worker,a bank manger in Nigeria than in Europe/America

So i ask...what do you do differently/better in nigeria to have fat bank accounts? answer=corrupt system. in this life, one is entitled to a decent living, (which is the case where i live)...to have so much money, you have got to be smarter and futuristic than many...#inventive

I dont even know what it is that Nigerians in Nigeria have contributed to world advancement that make them richer than people in the west....if not because of a broken system

Going through the entire thread just got me laughing.

1. It is totally wrong to be comparing menial job worker with a Bank Manager in Nigeria. Though some Nigerians in diaspora do the comparison and it is rude.

2 converting your earnings to dollars or naira is equally an aberration because you are not picking your bills in those currencies.

3. I work for an organisation with a pay that is above 7 figures per month after deduction of Tax, HMO Health Insurance for my entire family, NHIF, Pension contribution (compulsory and voluntary) and ease of getting visa to any country.

The Health Insurance gives me and the family access to any hospital in the world.

I have a comfortable abode of mine. It is not a mansion but it is comfortable and I am happy inside. I am blessed with 2 or 3properties, with at least a quality vacation outside the country guaranteed every 2years.

I have access to at least 20hrs of light per day with Generating Set offsetting the remaining 4hrs. In all I spend 10k on PHCN prepaid card and 15k on Gen per month. To a large extent, my cost of living is reduced and I can save more. Access to internet is 3 for 10kobo in Naija now, that is not a luxury.

Can I give that a way to relocate for now? No. Will I love to relocate in the nearest future. Maybe Yes. The reason is for the integration of the kids into the society and not for economic reasons.

Wherever you find yourself, just ensure it is working for you and do not look down on the people on the other side of the world -- whether at home or in diaspora. My friends outside the country are professionals and they are very successful and I do spend my vacation with some of them. Whenever they come to Naija, my home is usually their first point of call because I am comfortable and contented with the little God has blessed me with in Naija and they know I can never ask them for 1dollar.

In summary, it is neither here nor there. There are more opportunities in Naija bei.g a developing economy, but you need the right connection to harness most. American system is not based on connection to a large extent in comparison with Naija.

When you consider school fees, state of roads, cost of quality healthcare and security, life expectancy an quality of life will definitely be better in America. When you consider ease of making money, social livability (functions - parties wedding etc), fun and chances to more opportunities, Nigeria tops it.



God bless our hustles.

supersystemsnig:



Nope. Trust me. I know a few personally and their pay...don't ask me how i know. this one works on the island self, earns 1.5M Monthly, she's not even the assistant manager...

There is a difference between A BRANCH MANAGER and a MANAGER.
A branch manager is most times a portfolio, a manager is a LEVEL in the career path. They are very different.

You can't just know a few FULL MANAGERS personally and their pays. It takes years to be a FULL MANAGER and you don't see them around anyhow. They're are the ones that rake in the bulk of profit sharing (we talking millions here) and so many other benefits, including official cars.

If you are not in the system, you won't know.

Do you know how many levels you cross to be a full manager (ET, ABO, BO, SBO, AM, DM, M _some banks even have other levels in between) and you think they'll just open their mouth and let you know their pays?

Iblad0994:

But what percentage of ICT guys are making salary of $10,000 monthly in Nigeria as a starter . Bro this is not an argument of superiority , it’s just like an enlightenment and discussion.
We can’t compare naija with USA in all ramifications.
Yes most Americans live on loan but that is due to their system, they prefer you buy things on mortgage than paying full cash . If you want to buy a house here , you won’t pay cash in full it will be mortgaged and you’ll pay per month and it’s usually a low amount at which you can pay your full amount for the period of 25years or more. That’s the same for cars also and a lot of other things. So because people always say they live on loan doesn’t mean they don’t have money , it’s just that they need to pay some loan back and that even help them build up their credit history. If you’re here you’ll understand .
What I’m just saying is that don’t compare the percentage of people working here legally in a good firm with people working in naija , even after the high standard of living here , professionals here will still be able to rake in far far more money than their counterpart in Nigeria .
Thanks

When Linda Ikeji didn't start with $10k monthly when she started.... But $2,000 Monthly is okay and then can be grown to $10k monthly, yes standard of living in USA is way way better....But, the ICT guys rock... Even Doctors are dwarfed by the figures they command... I've seen/experienced guys with $25k monthly, it's about getting the knowledge

PaperLace:


There is a difference between A BRANCH MANAGER and a MANAGER.
A branch manager is most times a portfolio, a manager is a LEVEL in the career path. They are very different.

You can't just know a few FULL MANAGERS personally and their pays. It takes years to be a FULL MANAGER and you don't see them around anyhow. They're are the ones that rake in the bulk of profit sharing (we talking millions here) and so many other benefits, including official cars.

If you are not in the system, you won't know.

Do you know how many levels you cross to be a full manager (ET, ABO, BO, SBO, AM, DM, M _some banks even have other levels in between) and you think they'll just open their mouth and let you know their pays?

Trust me, i know this one's pay...there was no fear because of the bond that existed between our families... I can't say more than this..sowwwiew

supersystemsnig:



Trust me, i know this one's pay...there was no fear because of the bond that existed between our families... I can't say more than this..sowwwiew

Indeed.

supersystemsnig:



Do you know what the average bank manager earns atall?


Allow me educate you, seems like you don't..A Masters/PhD bank manager earns atleast 1.2 Million Per Month... You can't compare this with the yankee hustler..

There is nothing like Masters/PhD bank manager _don't spread falsehood, a manager is a manager. Majority of them don't have additional qualifications (save for certifications). Bankers are paid by their level, not qualifications. You don't know about the system, you shouldn't be the one educating people.

Only few banks pay their full managers that much, and if you know entry level salary structure, you'll know them. It isn't a case of averages _it's about the financial strength of the bank.

timesup234:
It is the plain truth. It is impossible to save 10kusd annually in the united states, even those with a paying job of $75,000 cant save that much. Do you know what it means to have $100,0000 in cash in america? 85% of americans dont have it and i am even talking about first class citizens

This for you :
Menial Job : $880 per 2 weeks making $1760 monthly(I work 5 days a week meaning 20days in a month)

Second paycheck arrives at the time bills will be paid

house rent including bills $700 for 2 bedroom apartment. 4 people sharing 2 bedroom apartment and we are all single meaning each person pays $200 per month

Bills $175
Phone bills $25
Food a month $100
Ride to work $5 a day and $100 a month
My family at home : $300 monthly

Total is $700

I send $500 straight to my nigeria account every 2 weeks making $1000 a monthly and put the remaining $60 in my pocket.

To Americans, $ is $ while to Nigerians, You convert your $ to naira.

This is a real life situation and you might be thinking dont I buy clothes, Yes I do

God Bless America and Nigeria


cc NONNYG

Iblad0994:


Yeah I’m living in America but I’m a master’s student here . So I know what I’m talking about. It doesn’t matter if the tax range is lower I’m working on estimate and the error Value can be just +-$50.. WHat I’m saying here is that if you’re here legally and you have the authorization to work . Then, that’s the least you can earn, I know what I’m saying and you can never compare someone here with even a normal bank worker in Nigeria. what you said about Nigerians here shouting about being rich than bankers in Nigeria is a thing of the brain , it’s individual view of seeing life and it’s always attached to ego. But in the real sense they are actually richer than the bank workers in Nigeria because that’s the fact. Remember the value I quoted for you is the least you can earn here if you have the authorization to work

Paltry $600 a month for hardwork when boys are making thrice that from freelancing right here from 9ja.

PaperLace:


Indeed.

Your choice, don't need your affirmation..

Good day..

timesup234:
i can see american doctors are now god but yet over 2.5million people die in america annually. Read before spreading hearsay

Died of what ? Before you bring your faulty stats here , consider the population in relation to Naija's own , consider where better quality health care is given. If you're still in doubt take it up with Doctor Ogunleye , Head CTSU LUTH Idi-araba Lagos. Only a blind man or someone who is so obsessed in being right would argue that common preventable diseases kill people here in Naija , in this case I think you're both

Chascop:


more elaboration please because I'm not understanding

how much is USA resident permit?

Then what about standard of living,far better than Nigeria

timesup234:
calm down. In delta and benin city you can even get a three bedroom for that amount

so if your office is in Lagos island, you will resume every day from Benin, I have actually been looking for someone who has tasted both side of Nigeria and the US to give us a better comparison here, I gave up on your argument when you mentioned 80k salary

pesinfada:
how much is USA resident permit?

Options for becoming a US resident:
immigration through a family member
immigration through employment
immigration through investment ($500k to $1 million)
immigration through the Diversity Lottery (Nigeria is now excluded)
immigration through refugee or asylum status
immigration through "The Registry" provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act
immigration approved by the Director of Central Intelligence.

lionlee216:


Bro, are you now in US?

No, I'm reporting live from Dubai. Ahh!! make the OP no see this one o before him go start to attack UAE residents



Would be visiting someday just to say hello to Oga Trump

who gonna sell residence permit to you.do u think its Nigeria were u buy all with money

pesinfada:
how much is USA resident permit?

iboboyswag:


Paltry $600 a month for hardwork when boys are making thrice that from freelancing right here from 9ja.

LOL. That is for the least paying job here. I mean for someone without anything , no cert, no skills, nothing.

Do you wanna know how much peopl make here from freelancing

This is not an argument bro. It’s just saying it’s better in USA than naija for now .

Maybe later in the future, we can be able to compare naija to USA . But for now , we have to face the real fact

pesinfada:
how much is USA resident permit?

Hilarious question.. Sir, please they don't sell it. It's earned through legal means.

donniemc:

Am a full time freelancer!. (most tech companies can't pay me)

Great. More $$ to you bro

nwoye72:
who gonna sell residence permit to you.do u think its Nigeria were u buy all with money

nwoye72, I was wondering

Beautyaddy:


Looool!! I'm beginning to think so.

The moniker joined this month and all its threads and post have been anti-American.(Either the moniker has been denied US visa multiple times or something else is going on...lol!)

Either way, Americans no send am. Fact remain is no matter the hate or love for the blessed country, It will always stand out in history to be one of the great and powerful countries to ever exist.

your amebo too much. You sound like someone without education.

What you wrote in bold, is that what this thread is about or it's just the neo-slavery that you suffer from?

davidnazee:
Mugu why don't u compare Nigerians doing menial jobs in America to those doing menial jobs in Nigeria or bank manager vs bank manager?
Guy try get ur visa and leave poverty in Nigeria.

Op is paid to mislead people now my brother is working as a driver there come and See is properties in Lekki garden not one Not two

Nigeria standard of living is the worst in Africa

naira is valueless

I'm not in Nigeria I'm talking from experience

I like this Op ooo

Nigerian government should seat up