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We are Nigeria. A great footballing nation.

We know where we are coming from and we know where we hope to be. The equivalents of Okechukwu, Amokachi, Amuneke and co you mentioned are Mikel , Echiejile, Onazi, Omeruo who were in the 2014 WC
So we have a basis for comparison.

One major reason I can rate this team is the compactness and team spirit. I hope that helps them go far.

Kog45:
Yea Salah but wish Moses gets it but u know CAF dey craze sometimes when it comes to APOTY.

Joebie:
sir we can start analyzing. Let's talk about all the England-bred players that were given a chance.. How many really came good?

Mujtahida:

Who then in the current team are the equivalents of Oliseh, Okocha, Celestine Babayaro, Ikpeba, Oruma, Taribo West, Tijani Babangida who were already Super Eagles players. I think that's the point Kog45 is making - We used our national team to play the Olympics. Such has never been done again.

krattoss:
but seriously. .our top nff officials dey F*ck up oooo..how can you host something at ur backyard, still foreigners go come ur own backyard Rob u ...

I remember was it in 2013 AFPOTY. ..mikel was supposed to win considering the fact he won nation's cup and also was a Chelsea key player..yet yaya toure from nowhere grabbed the title... our glo was the sponsor..hosted in our backyard still they manoeuvres us ...if it is to embezzle money, they I'll come first..but to do some covert ops..they won't...

This year.aitoe a Nigerian oil company is sponsoring the award, we have some one in the position of pinnick. .then the hosting will be done in our own backyard. ..let me watch and see how they I'll come and clinch the title again ...

Atleast let's help our own..

forgiveness:


We already know the game plan to bring Alhassan ahead of Kayode. People think say na dem get sense pass but when the tide changes some day nobody should cry blue murder. They should just enjoy it while it last.

edi287:
Has Chidiebere Nwakali been performing better than Ifeanyi Matthew in Norway??

Kog45:
It seems you don't understand Kayode issue.Let me tell you little i know about his situation with national team.

The sport administrators don't want outspoken ones in the team,this is what affected Jonathan Akpoborie chances in the Eagles,the same thing James Obiorah,to some extent Wilson Oruma,even Godwin Opara,look at Enyeama scenario,the NFF w make sure they block Enyeama recalled coz they don't want him.

Did you know Enyeama/Olishe feud was a script written by NFF and Olishe acted on it,telling Olishe if you want to succeed just get rid of certain players like Enyeama,Mikel, Emenike,benching Mikel for Onobi was a script,Emenike saw the handwriting on the wall he resigned, kudos to Mikel he didn't let it bother him he carry on with the team despite the humiliation.

Kayode Olarewaju issue with football administrators started when he came out publicly to indict Taiwo Ogunjobi in his transfer brouhaha when he was in cote d voire,this confession affected Ogunjobi career as a football administrator,till today he never forgive Kayode.

Since then Kayode has been under watch of NFF,they don't want to have anything to do with him,though Ogunjobi is no longer in NFF he still waxes influence as former sec Gen.

The last invitation Kayode got against South Africa was a forceful one and i can tell you Rohr you are accusing was the one that made it possible,if it's NFF he w never be considered.I can tell u if he get another it's Rohr.

The issue has nothing to do with tribe cos Kayode's problem is Chief Taiwo Ogunjobi who happened to be his kinsman not Rohr and as i said in one of my comments that Rohr just need to listen to some people cos thet are the forces who made it possible for him to be appointed as a coach,so don't be surprised if Ogunjobi was one of the people that made Rohr appointment as a coach of Super Eagles possible.

Clemens Westerhoff got Nigeria job through Chief SB Williams and he listened to the man,some players came to national team through Kojo Williams,

I remember Stephen Keshi got his first coaching appointment with Togo through Patrick Okpomo and when he got fired the same man make sure he got him Mali job,so these people are cabal,this is the problem in Africa,a lot are happening behind the scene,not only in football, look at Maina case and the presidency.

James Obiorah made 2002 WC when he openly said national team coaches are collecting money, it was international interview and this prompted Onigbinde to force NFF to invite him,NFF dont want Obiorah in the team.He came to camp and made the team.

Think of it highest goal scorer in Austria league and even the best player last season before moving to man city and loaned to Girona in LA liga, on a good day he supposed to be in national team but forces working against him are the same forces working against Enyeama recalled.

Truly it's corruption but i just want you to know that Kayode is not victimize for being from one tribe in Nigeria cos the man behind the whole show is from the same tribe with Kayode.

Joebie:
2017 The Year of English football.
Alli 2-0 Madrid
Now 3-0

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From this crop you mentioned now only Oliseh and Okocha featured at the 94 WC. Ikpeba was an unused sub. Kanu only trained with the 94 team in camp for the WC. Cele, Oruma, Taribo, Babangida, Oparaku, Lawal were not in the super eagles then.

Humility017:

your comments sometimes....depict you as someone below 20 years old...
I was surprised to read the other day...that you have a daughter....

who is stopping this British children from playing for Nigeria...are you not in this country....to see how Tammy and his gang have been taking the super eagles for a ride...they all wanna play for England...

you expect us to go begging them?
please wise up bro....you're bigger than this...

komekn:


I'm in England and I talk to some of these players and thier agents and I tell you there is more infact lots of media talk.

But little or no direct contact to the players.

Has anybody spoken to Aluko, Iorfa etc

Dedebanky85:
Oga who are we losing these guys to? The only thing that connects them to Nigeria is that either one or both parents are Nigerians. These guys don't feel green at all. So u should rephrase it to say "if England decides to lose them, then it'll be Naija's gain that's if they even want to play for us. God forbid, but even in death Alli would never have wanted to play for Naija. He doesn't feel or mix wth anything Nigerian. So what's ur fuss about losing him. No blame NFF abeg. Even the lookman you're taking about, rumor has it that he was approached, but turned us down. What u want NFF to do again? Cede an oil block to him or what? The thing be irritating me when I see names from every corner. These players are firstly loyal to the country of birth and upbringing. Any other affiliations becomes secondary. So we are not losing anyone cos they were never ours. I just want you to understand that first. If you were calling Dessers, Deji, even the boy in Wycombe wanderers, I have no qualms cos they have decided to choose their secondary options which is Nigeria. But all these Solanke, Onomah, Lookman, Udokhai, have made it known that their country of birth which is rightly their first choice coupled with residency length is their first choice and as such should not be mentioned in any Naija squad. NFF have tried biko.

junnyjake:
I've seen Kieran Trippier play while still at burnley.

I never knew he'd come this good. No wonder Poch never really had problems letting Walker leave.

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The individual abilities of those players were top notch. That was even an Olympics team and not the main super eagles.

I have always said it that I have seen better youth players than what we have today.

We just hype most of our young players of today. most of them are not up to the marks.

None of the current Nigerian players who are 23 or less would have made that team's starting line up.

Now you'll understand why I am not much excited about all those names people are throwing in upandan here.

komekn:


YOU HUNDRED PERCENT DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

Do I need to put a picture of them with a poster on thier chest saying. NAIJA 4 LIFE before you know they are Nigerians but just born in the UK.

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What we have above is close to what we have presently in terms of age. As over 70% of the current crop are 23 or less. And they are also established super Eagles players. Yet none would have made that 96 team starting line up. Maybe 1 or 2 would make the squad at most.

Good you made reference to Siasia's 2008 Olympics team. Trace that team back to his 2005 U20 team which was the bedrock of the 2008 Olympics team. That 2005 U20 also had class and quality. I remember repeatedly mentioning that the Siasia's 2005 Flying Eagles were better than the Manu's 2015 Flying Eagles. I got attacked for it but I still maintain my view on that.

We have to accept the fact. we hype our current team too much.

This team has achieved a lot in this qualifiers no doubt but they still have a long way to go.

Mujtahida:

Exactly. It's like using some of the guys in this team after Russia 2018 for the next Olympics. They will shine na. What we took to the Olympics was our senior national team. Only Finidi George, Rashidi Yekini and Siasia were missing.

komekn:


Most of them infact the bulk if the team was playing with top clubs of Europe and in top leagues

Quality players from top clubs in top leagues.

What do we have now, Norwegian league CHEI!!!

safarigirl:
a picture of them with even a tattoo of Nigerian coat of arms will not be enough.

It is easy to shout Naija for life. All these diasporans do it on the daily, it's 'cool' to identify with an African country these days, every black person wants to be differentiated from those who don't have 'roots'.

It takes more than snapping one picture with the Nigerian flag or even with a Nigerian artiste to be Nigerian.

You are the one who said Dele did not 'feel' Nigerian, and now, you are accusing Dede of not knowing what he is saying.

Post the picture of them first, then we can take it up from there.

safarigirl:
you are very condescending to people who do not play in your preferred league. Very very condescending and it is a bad look on anyone.

We only invited ONE player from the Norwegian league, he will most likely not get to play and may not have a second invite, but you and the other small-minded fellow have taken it upon yourselves to run down this small boy because he is not in your shine shine league.

You need to learn to respect someone's hustle, Chidiebere did not choose to be in the Norwegian league and I dare say, half the boys you clamour for would not even cut it there.

You do not understand what it means to be a Nigerian footballer coming out of Nigeria, you are only in tune with your England boys struggle, and while they may be having a tough time, those who have to come out of Nigeria have it much worse and there is no dual nationality card for them to play.

This condescending attitude is disgusting to say the least.

Mujtahida:

But by 1996 they were already in the Super Eagles team na even if not the first eleven.

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Celestine, Taribo, Oruma, Lawal, Babangida, Oparaku, Ojigwe and Kanu only gained promotion to the super Eagles after the Olympics. Prio to Atlanta they were just U23 players that had no Senior team experience.
As I said before Kanu only trained with the 94 eagles in camp and was part of the squad that faced England in Wembley.

komekn:



My friend you are muddying the waters, the subject is best player selection by merit.

The discussion is not circumstances personal or otherwise but structure, definitive standards of measurement for the best quality players. The removal of sentiment and the enthronement of merit without question. Let the best players come in no sentiment.

People left Nigeria direct and went to French league, Belgium league, Portuguese league, Italian league. So if you find yourself in the backwaters of Europe it's nobody fault. Life is tough and unfair it's just how it is.

Under no circumstances do we circumvent standards for anybody irrespective of circumstances. One player bypassing the standards is one too many. It us unfair, unjustifiable and not right, no apologies.

If you find objective merit based selection as condescending then I have nothing to say. The EPL is the most competitive league in the World if not the best so what's wrong with the pursuit of excellence

Finally, I am probably more Nigerian conversant than you. Naija no far from me. Dont assume that I don't have am indepth understanding and empathy for the dynamics and struggles in Nigeria. I still can leave Ocean view drive to Okirigwe jnct and eat starch and owo with my hands.

I just have will not compromise my integrity, if that makes me Un-Nigerain in your book. Once again no apology.

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From this crop you mentioned now only Oliseh and Okocha featured at the 94 WC. Ikpeba was an unused sub. Kanu only trained with the 94 team in camp for the WC. Cele, Oruma, Taribo, Babangida, Oparaku, Lawal were not in the super eagles then.

edi287:

15 goals in 31 matches for Roma
2017 afcon team of the tournament
Has had a great world cup qualification
Has been in greater form than Moses since the season started.
Salah, Naby Keita and Aubamayeng or Mane will make the final 3. Vic MO at best might make the top 3 but he isn't winning it. Bookmark this post.

komekn:


Consider where they were getting thier experiential competencies from

The best leagues and the best clubs in the world.

Compare them to the current set and you find it feels like we have gone backwards.

aodis:


I wont oh, cos even if he was in Afcon team of tournament , they didnt win it. Roma, what is Roma? Why did he leave Roma if it was such a big team. For W/C qualification , Moses played a big part and nailed it for Nigeria Against the mighty Algeria last year. And mind that we are talking abt year in review Which was last year, this year's performance will be judged next year. If is for Afcon winning, then one of the super eagles players in Mikel or moses would have won it cos the both won Afcon and the Europa league for chelsea in 2013. Or even Enyama the Goal keeper!

safarigirl:
you are very condescending to people who do not play in your preferred league. Very very condescending and it is a bad look on anyone.

We only invited ONE player from the Norwegian league, he will most likely not get to play and may not have a second invite, but you and the other small-minded fellow have taken it upon yourselves to run down this small boy because he is not in your shine shine league.

You need to learn to respect someone's hustle, Chidiebere did not choose to be in the Norwegian league and I dare say, half the boys you clamour for would not even cut it there.

You do not understand what it means to be a Nigerian footballer coming out of Nigeria, you are only in tune with your England boys struggle, and while they may be having a tough time, those who have to come out of Nigeria have it much worse and there is no dual nationality card for them to play.

This condescending attitude is disgusting to say the least.

Mickael2:


those are the keywords. Rohr is the type of manager that comes to training and the players will say 'we already know what we are doing today, we are here to train with a 4-2-3-1 formation, these are members of the first team and these are members of the second team', and he will just nod. That is bad because one injury or if a team manages to find the cure to that present formation we crumble. Siasia-2008 Olympics without Taiwo and Mikel=2nd place, 2016 Olympics without a host of players still=3rd place. Rohr is not tactically.... No make me start this argument sha.

Kog45:
Kanu made his debut for Eagles against Sweden prior to WC making him super eagles player,Tijani Babangida was a member of US 94 squad as a stand by player though not registered.

Oruma, Babayaro, Taribo,Lawal,Oparaku all made their super eagles debut before Atlanta 96.

My man Atlanta 96 team was a full super eagles team,US 94 regular in that team are Uche Okechuckwu, Daniel Amokachie, Sunday Olishe,Emma Amuneke, Austin Okocha inclusive Victor Ikpeba a member,Tijani Babangida standby player.

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The individual abilities of those players were top notch. That was even an Olympics team and not the main super eagles.

I have always said it that I have seen better youth players than what we have today.

We just hype most of our young players of today. most of them are not up to the marks.

None of the current Nigerian players who are 23 or less would have made that team's starting line up.

Now you'll understand why I am not much excited about all those names people are throwing in upandan here.