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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 12:32am On Nov 04, 2017
VillageWinch:
They had their commanding officers
He was the Cmmander In Chief
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by VillageWinch: 12:40am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
He was the Cmmander In Chief
Doesn't mean he gave the order
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by VillageWinch: 1:28am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
He was the Cmmander In Chief
In that case why is Murtala considered responsible
for Asaba massacre and not Gowon
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 1:33am On Nov 04, 2017
VillageWinch:
Doesn't mean he gave the order
He was the ultimate commander. He bears responsibility
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 1:37am On Nov 04, 2017
VillageWinch:
In that case why is Murtala considered responsible
for Asaba massacre and not Gowon
That was durring war time.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by VillageWinch: 1:43am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
That was durring war time.
What's the difference
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 3:00am On Nov 04, 2017
VillageWinch:
What's the difference
Durring war time the field commanders have the final say
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 3:16am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
I think this neatly summarizes the whole thing
Thanks I think that's a succinct summary of the why
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by VillageWinch: 3:39am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
Durring war time the field commanders have the final say
Says who?
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:02am On Nov 04, 2017
VillageWinch:
Says who?
Says history
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by VillageWinch: 4:13am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
Says history
Which history. The C in C is always blamed for atrocities of those within his command
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:23am On Nov 04, 2017
VillageWinch:
Which history. The C in C is always blamed for atrocities of those within his command
Except durring war time. Otherwise some US Presidents would have gone to jail for war crimes
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by VillageWinch: 5:05am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
Except durring war time. Otherwise some US Presidents would have gone to jail for war crimes
So how come Charles Taylor is in jail for war crimes?
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 5:13am On Nov 04, 2017
VillageWinch:
So how come Charles Taylor is in jail for war crimes?
He was physically in the war front
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 6:21am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
He was physically in the war front
Obadanjo was physically in the "war front" too.
He was in Lagos same as Fela
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 6:22am On Nov 04, 2017
So he must have acquiesced to what was going on
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Nobody: 8:22am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
Na wa o. Forcing someone to associate with u. Never seen anything like that
Sincerely I don't understand ur post.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Nobody: 8:23am On Nov 04, 2017
9jaDoc:
He was physically in the war front
Presidents don't go to war front.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 6:52pm On Nov 04, 2017
PrecisionFx:
Sincerely I don't understand ur post.
We are actually agreeing with each other. I simply posted what Awo said. Which is this:

"If any region should opt out of the Federation of Nigeria, then the Federation should be considered to be at an end, and that the Western Region and Lagos should also opt out of it."

And this:

"We have neither military might nor the overwhelming advantage of numbers here in Western Nigeria and Lagos. But we have justice of a noble and imperishable cause on our side, namely: the right of a people to unfettered self-determination."

Then I posted:
"Na wa o. Forcing someone to associate with u. Never seen anything like that"

Which is same as what u r saying: they were forcing Biafra to be in a union they don't want to be in.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 7:37pm On Nov 04, 2017
Here is a photo of OBJ in those days:

Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 7:38pm On Nov 04, 2017
PrecisionFx:
Presidents don't go to war front.
Charles Taylor did. He was on the run with his boys.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 7:52pm On Nov 04, 2017
I think it is obvious the army would not have been able to maltreat Fela if OBJ was against it
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 7:56pm On Nov 04, 2017
Back to the question at hand: Did Gowon promise Awo rulership of 9ja once the war was won?

Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 8:00pm On Nov 04, 2017
It depends on how u look at the available evidence
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 8:01pm On Nov 04, 2017
Awo obviously had a dramatic change of heart within a few short weeks.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 8:04pm On Nov 04, 2017
Going from a perfect pacifist to sabre-rattling war monger
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 8:11pm On Nov 04, 2017
Add to that the fact that he abruptly resigned in 1971 after Gowon said he was not handing over to civilians.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe(op): 8:12pm On Nov 04, 2017
You can make a very good case that he was promised rulership.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 8:19pm On Nov 04, 2017
But that Awo sef. So it was presidency or nothing
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Nobody: 8:41pm On Nov 04, 2017
WetinConsignMe:
Charles Taylor did. He was on the run with his boys.
Being on the run isn't same as being a soldier or a general.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f):
NUMBER ONE WAR CRIMINAL

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