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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 11:51pm On Nov 05, 2017
Obasanjo and his late wife, Stella, who died at 59 after a botched liposuction cosmetic surgery in Spain.

Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 12:35am On Nov 06, 2017
So OBJ was at the war font of attacks on Fela
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 12:48am On Nov 06, 2017
Even though he was not physically present during the attacks
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 1:13am On Nov 06, 2017
Which is why Fela took his Mother's coffin to his residence.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 1:53am On Nov 06, 2017
Fela knew who was ultimately responsible though OBJ was probably out of the country durring the attack.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:00am On Nov 06, 2017
Wow mehn, this is the most convoluted attempt at revisionism I have ever seen in my entire life. You said clearly that Charles Taylor was convicted only because he was physically in the war front. Those were your exact words.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:10am On Nov 06, 2017
In fact here is the exact thread:

PrecisionFx:
Being on the run isn't same as being a soldier or a general

(Here is your reply)

WetinConsignMe: 9:18pm On Nov 04
Right. But in this case Charles Taylor personally took part in the atrocities.

You said: PERSONALLY took part

When u r wrong, admit u r wrong. It is not the end of the world

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:16am On Nov 06, 2017
See, what u said can easily be pulled up, so you can't pull a wool over anybody's eyes.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 5:34am On Nov 06, 2017
9jaDoc:
In fact here is the exact thread:

PrecisionFx:
Being on the run isn't same as being a soldier or a general

(Here is your reply)

WetinConsignMe: 9:18pm On Nov 04
Right. But in this case Charles Taylor personally took part in the atrocities.

You said: PERSONALLY took part

When u r wrong, admit u r wrong. It is not the end of the world

I was not wrong. In the first place by "personally took part" I meant he was personally involved in the planning.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 5:42am On Nov 06, 2017
He did not get convicted simply because he was president at time of the atrocities. He was actively involved in the planning
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 6:35am On Nov 06, 2017
WetinConsignMe:
He did not get convicted simply because he was president at time of the atrocities. He was actively involved in the planning

Bros, you specifically said he was at the war front and that's why he was convicted.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 6:53am On Nov 06, 2017
9jaDoc:


Bros, you specifically said he was at the war front and that's why he was convicted.

Then I went on to explain what I meant by "war front". It means u are involved in planning the attack, aiding and abetting.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 7:06am On Nov 06, 2017
Not that he was physically there as in OBJ and Fela
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 7:15am On Nov 06, 2017
WetinConsignMe:
Not that he was physically there as in OBJ and Fela

This is the most ridiculous twisting of things I have ever seen in my entire life.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 7:22am On Nov 06, 2017
9jaDoc:


This is the most ridiculous twisting of things I have ever seen in my entire life.

Look, it boils down to how you define "war front"
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 10:41am On Nov 06, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


Look, it boils down to how you define "war front"

Come on bro, war front is the actual location where the war is being fought. Either Charles Taylor was there or he wasn't.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 11:10am On Nov 06, 2017
9jaDoc:


Come on bro, war front is the actual location where the war is being fought. Either Charles Taylor was there or he wasn't.

That's YOUR definition.
You know something, let me search the web...
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 11:17am On Nov 06, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


That's YOUR definition.
You know something, let me search the web...

It is not MY definition. It is the standard definition. The only definition. You are trying to twst it to your purpose. It won't work. U r not fooling anybody.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 5:40pm On Nov 06, 2017
Charles Taylor was not in any war front.
QED
He was convicted for being president while heinous atrocities were commited and helping plan, aiding, and abetting.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 6:15pm On Nov 06, 2017
9jaDoc:
Charles Taylor was not in any war front.
QED
He was convicted for being president while heinous atrocities were commited and helping plan, aiding, and abetting.

So why aren't many US presidents in jail?
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 6:34pm On Nov 06, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


So why aren't many US presidents in jail?

US presidents weren't planning, aiding, and abetting heinous atrocities
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 6:41pm On Nov 06, 2017
9jaDoc:


US presidents weren't planning, aiding, and abetting heinous atrocities

So what do u call carpet bombing Baghdad, for example.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 6:51pm On Nov 06, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


So what do u call carpet bombing Baghdad, for example.

It is called war. Carried out within international law. No laws were broken.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 10:08pm On Nov 06, 2017
9jaDoc:


It is called war. Carried out within international law. No laws were broken.

So no laws are broken when u kill innocent civilians but laws are broken when u rape or maim them. Ok oh.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 10:25pm On Nov 06, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


So no laws are broken when u kill innocent civilians but laws are broken when u rape or maim them. Ok oh.

Oga, those are the international rules of war agreed to by every country.
US presidents obey them or they will be prosecuted just like Charles Taylor
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 12:55am On Nov 07, 2017
9jaDoc:
Charles Taylor was not in any war front.
QED
He was convicted for being president while heinous atrocities were commited and helping plan, aiding, and abetting.

Eureka! Eureka!!
I FOUND IT!!!
Here is Charles Taylor in the WAR FRONT!!
QED
How does it feel to lose, ma'am?

Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:17am On Nov 07, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


Eureka! Eureka!!
I FOUND IT!!!
Here is Charles Taylor in the WAR FRONT!!
QED
How does it feel to lose, ma'am?

Na you sabi.

I was looking at this photo.
Notice war criminal Murtala in the background with his oval face probably already planning a coup.

Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 5:56pm On Nov 07, 2017
PrecisionFx:



He was killed in a city the Nigerian army liberated.
I hope the biafra part of SS have learned their lessons, the north n their conspirators will use them n dump them.

He was? That means he was intentionally eliminated.
Same as Saro Wiwa. These people don't play when it comes to oil.
Is there a Biafra SS?
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 6:16pm On Nov 07, 2017
9jaDoc:


He was? That means he was intentionally eliminated.
Same as Saro Wiwa. These people don't play when it comes to oil.
Is there a Biafra SS?

Same thing happened to Nzeogwu. So let not the kettle call the pot black
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 10:55pm On Nov 07, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


Same thing happened to Nzeogwu. So let not the kettle call the pot black

Nzeogwu was not killed in a liberated Biafra city, was he?
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 2:43am On Nov 08, 2017
9jaDoc:


Nzeogwu was not killed in a liberated Biafra city, was he?

Nzeogwu was set up. They told him the town was under Biafra control when it wasn't
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 5:52am On Nov 08, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


Nzeogwu was set up. They told him the town was under Biafra control when it wasn't

Not true at all.
Here is Nzeogwu's death.
Note the bolded.


Who Killed Major Nzeogwu?
By
Max Siollun
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A Grim Anniversary

Last week marked the 42nd anniversary of the death of Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu. Nzeogwu died in the final week of July 1967. While there is consensus that he died, exactly how he died and at the hands of whom has remained in dispute. In conspiracy rife Nigeria, all manner of rumours and apocryphal stories have alleged that Nzeogwu was murdered in a Machiavellian plot engineered by Ojukwu to eliminate him or perhaps that he was killed while trying to defect to join the federal army. As always, the truth is much more mundane.

Nzeogwu in Prison

For his role in Nigeria's first military coup, Nzeogwu was imprisoned by the military regime of Major-General Aguiyi-Ironsi at the notorious Kiri-Kiri maximum security prison in Lagos. His co-conspirators were also initially detained there but many of them were later moved to prisons in the Eastern Region: including Majors Ifeajuna (Uyo prison), Ademoyega, Onwuatuegwu (Enugu prison), Captain Gbulie (Abakaliki prison), Major Chukwuka, Captain Nwobosi (both Owerri prison). Nzeogwu was the only officer among the plotters that was moved to Aba prison. After Ironsi was overthrown in July 1966, Nzeogwu remained in prison until he was released in March 1967 by the Eastern Region's Military Governor Lt-Colonel Ojukwu.

Nzeogwu’s Rift With Ojukwu

However after his release his activities were curtailed. He and Ojukwu did not see eye to eye.
Nzeogwu was never enthusiastic about secession. As late as 1967 he articulated in an interview with Dennis Ejindu his view that:

“secession will be ill-advised, indeed impossible. Even if the East fights a war of secession and wins, it still cannot secede. Personally, I don’t like secession and if this country disintegrates, I shall pack up my things and go. In the present circumstances, confederation is the best answer as a temporary measure. In time, we shall have complete unity."

The interview did not go down well with Ojukwu and Nzeogwu’s words to Ejindu were the last official statements attributed to him before his death. Relations between Ojukwu and Nzeogwu deteriorated further as Nzeogwu made no secret of his desire for a united Nigeria. Even though war between Nigeria and Biafra was imminent, in April 1967 Nzeogwu was suspended from all military activities by Ojukwu. The immediate pretext was Nzeogwu’s involvement in a battle simulation military training exercise in Abakaliki and other towns in the Eastern Region. Recalling that Nzeogwu had turned the night time training “Exercise Damissa” into a full blown coup the previous year, Ojukwu banned all such further exercises. Relations between Ojukwu and Nzeogwu got bad enough for Ojukwu to consider putting Nzeogwu back in prison.

In a June 17, 1967 letter to his friend Olusegun Obasanjo, Nzeogwu confessed:

“You have no doubt heard a lot of rumours about my relations with Ojukwu. We obviously see things quite differently after what he did to my supporters in January 1966. He is also worried about my popularity among his own people. I was to be put back in prison, but he was afraid of repercussions. Right now I am not allowed contact with troops nor am I permitted to operate on the staff. One gentleman’s agreement we have is that I can carry on with what ever pleases me.”

Amazingly even at this late stage, Nzeogwu was still entertaining fantasies of Nigerian unity and reintegrating the Nigerian army:

“I will create a new Nigerian army inside Biafra!! With Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba and all other ethnic groups.”

Nzeogwu inspired and frightened with equal measure. A personality cult bordering on hero worship grew up around him in the Eastern Region and he was being feted as an immortal indestructible warrior. Although Ojukwu gave Nzeogwu the Biafran rank of Brigadier, he was not given any formal command in the Biafran army.

Despite not officially being part of the Biafran army command, Nzeogwu was not the type of character that could remain idle. His impulsive nature and rebelliousness towards superior officers has been documented. Lt-Col Patrick Anwunah went so far as to describe Nzeogwu as:

“a radical and an inwardly insubordinate young officer…..(who was) full of his own ideas and probably thought he had the answers to all problems. His statements and comments at that time gave me the impression that he could become insubordinate as he had no regard for senior officers.”

Frustrated at his exclusion from military duties, Nzeogwu took to informal ad hoc guerilla raids against the federal army. He would impulsively conscript other soldiers to join him during these raids. It is not certain that these raids and conscriptions were authorised by Ojukwu.

Nzeogwu was admired and feared in equal measure. He was admired for his intelligence, warmth and charm. He was feared because of his suicidal courage. Junior Biafran foot soldiers were reluctant to be conscripted by Nzeogwu. Conscription by Nzeogwu meant being taken to the front line and faced with grave danger. Nzeogwu was brave enough to cross behind enemy lines, carry out reconnaissance and engage the federal army in close quarter combat. In late July 1967, his courage took him a step too far.

The Death of Nzeogwu

Nzeogwu had gone out on a reconnaissance mission in the Nsukka sector. He was travelling in an improvised armoured vehicle (known as a "Biafran Red Devil"wink that had been converted by the ingenious Biafran engineers from a Bedford truck. The vehicle was cumbersome despite its impressive ingenuity. The vehicle became immobilised and was surrounded by federal troops of the 21st battalion at a roadblock near the University of Nigeria Nsukka campus. The troops were led by Captain Abubakar Gora, and they opened fired on it. The vehicle's improvised armour withstood their bullets until it was attacked with the fearsome 106mm recoilless rifle which pierced its body. Ironically, the 106mm recoilless rifle was the same anti-tank weapon that Nzeogwu and other soldiers used in January 1966 to attack and destroy the official lodge of the Sardauna of Sokoto.

At this point, the accounts diverge. Olu Mamdap (former military driver to General Domkat Bali) witnessed the incident and claims that Nzeogwu and the other “two or three” occupants in the vehicle were killed while still inside the vehicle. Mamdap claims that it was not known that Nzeogwu was inside until the corpses were dragged out.

However Major-Generals Mohammed Shuwa and Abdullahi Shelleng (who were not present when Nzeogwu was killed but saw his corpse) claimed that while being fired on, Nzeogwu jumped out from the vehicle, shouted in Hausa and identified himself as Major Nzeogwu but was shot dead anyway. Ojukwu's mixed race half brother Tom Biggar was also killed along with Nzeogwu. Biggar was the child of Ojukwu’s mother after she divorced Sir Louis Odumegwu and married a European named Biggar.

Nzeogwu's corpse was identified by Lieutenant Abdullahi Shelleng who ordered that it should be stored firstly in the University of Nigeria campus at Nsukka. However, by the time Shelleng arrived, Nzeogwu's eyes had been plucked out in what appears to have been a ritual mutilation. According to Shelleng the soldier who shot Nzeogwu was ironically Nzeogwu's former batman. The corpse was later sent to 1 division headquarters in Makurdi where the 1 division commander Colonel Mohammed Shuwa informed the head of state Major-General Gowon. Despite the fact that Nzeogwu was now technically an enemy soldier killed in combat against the Nigerian army, Gowon ordered that Nzeogwu's body should be flown to Kaduna and buried with full military honours – even as the war raged on in the Eastern Region.

Even in death, Nzeogwu was still respected by federal and northern troops. Domkat Bali referred to him as:

“a nice, charismatic and disciplined officer, highly admired and respected by his colleagues. At least he was not in the habit of being found in the company of women all the time messing about with them in the officers mess, a pastime of many young officers then….we believed that he was a genuinely patriotic officer who organised the 1966 coup with the best of intentions who was let down by his collaborators….If we had captured him alive, he would not have been killed. I believe he probably would have been tried for his role in the January 15 coup, jailed and probably freed after some time. His death was regrettable.”

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