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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by aribisala0(m): 9:51am On Nov 05, 2017 |
JamesReacher: You discover YOUR truth and let me discove MINE. OK? 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Chimezirim121: 9:58am On Nov 05, 2017 |
[quote author=YoungRichRuler post=62076289]If it's lalasticl.ala, it's frontpage Well, I'm a Christian. I give my tithes. I'm not forced or coerced to give it. Jesus died that I might have life in Abundance, to the full, till it overflows. If folks under the old covenant pay 10%, I'm under a better covenant and my God deserve more than 10%. If I don't pay my tithes, there is NO curse that will come upon me because I've been redeemed from the curse of the law. [/quote No more comments!! You've nailed it 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Caseless: 10:09am On Nov 05, 2017 |
YoungRichRuler:Jesus died? I heard he's still coming back. You pay 10% to man or to God? 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by hahn(m): 10:27am On Nov 05, 2017 |
iamjavadem: The fact that you believe in a god means you are not an atheist And there are more than 4,000 religions in the world You should try to get your facts right |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dederocs(m): 10:30am On Nov 05, 2017 |
If you feel daddy freeze has a point, regarding the use of the tithes by the pastors , click like. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by hahn(m): 10:30am On Nov 05, 2017 |
rhektor: Everything |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Decryptor(m): 10:41am On Nov 05, 2017 |
YoungRichRuler: You have just said it all! Tithing should be based on personal decision. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by ibnzubair(m): 10:44am On Nov 05, 2017 |
MrMystrO: Nice one 'Robert Langdon' 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by davillian(m): 10:48am On Nov 05, 2017 |
I've been trying to ignore this tithe issue but I know one day I would be forced to speak against it. I don't pay tithes I know the truth about tithes according to the scriptures. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by AlanSugar(m): 11:11am On Nov 05, 2017 |
JohnGainsville: I think you're getting it wrong. There's really nothing like tithing where as charity is the real tithing. Tithing according to the Bible means giving to the less privileged and not giving to the already rich so they can enrich themselves the more and live in excessive opulence. Whatever happened to "vanity upon vanity ", are your pastors immune to that phrase, will their private jets be flown to heaven? If you want to donate towards the church project, buy chairs or sand and cement, if they like let them sell it off and buy their big big shoes and expensive clothes from the proceeds. Someone is stealing from you, you know it but you prefer to ask God to judge just because he uses the Bible to effect the stealing, is that how it should be? God had warned us to "beware of false prophets ",maybe daddy freeze is using that power of authority by awareness to preach his awareness in order to free the sheeple. Haba, don't you know a lot of pastors tell lies just for material gains? Those that sleep with people's wives nko? To me, they are all the same. Better to belong to an orthodox church than tag along with these fraudsters. 2 Likes |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by AlanSugar(m): 11:26am On Nov 05, 2017 |
dayowunmi: Hmmm, @ "thousands of pastors working on full time.... ", like seriously? Like you don't know they are all agents of the tithe collecting system? Most of the so called thousand pastors slug it out on their own, every penny they make from their local parish gets remitted to HQs. I had a personal discuss with one of them who was managing a branch in my locality where they used one of my properties for the branch. He was always complaining of lack of funds and when I asked him what he does with his offering and tithes, "everything gets sent to headquarters ", his feeding is on him, his tp is on him, etc. He said he only gets like 10k monthly for his sustenance! If these GOs were paying out as you claim, seriously, do you think they'll be much left for the purchase of private jets and the expensive lifestyles they live? Pls think. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by nemynely(m): 11:42am On Nov 05, 2017 |
@lala I really don't think this thread is necessary. Rather just disseminate the video freeze had with sahara and leave people to decide for themselves. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by AlanSugar(m): 11:46am On Nov 05, 2017 |
I really don't think freeze is against tithing but like me, I think he's against tithing to the rich. Tithing, as was in the days of the Old Testament was designed to take care of the poor, and even if it's to be imbibed in today's spiritual practices, it's status quo should still be respected and maintained! Today, it is common knowledge that pastors see tithing as a free and easy means to owning a private jet. If anybody disagrees then the person had better start telling me that pastors print raw cash or that God Himself pays for the jets! If tithes were judiciously used to cater for the poor as commanded by God, certainly there wouldn't be much left for the GOs' outstanding lives of opulence. Vanity upon vanity, are they immune to it?? We need to think a bit. I'm not saying don't pay tithe, as long as it is tithe, it can be paid anywhere. Try destitute homes, prisons, hospitals, psychiatric homes and so on. You will see the difference, if not in you then in the society. This is what pastors were meant to do but for selfish interests or because of lack of faith in God, they decided to get wise while being foolish. No pastor should live above any moderate life! A servant of God cannot be a king on earth, it's not possible. Let the elevation be when he gets to heaven. Pastor EEOkon, we know only you has got /will get to heaven among your peers. Rest in peace sir. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Inova(m): 12:05pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
MrMystrO:EXTREMELY BRILLIANT POST!!!!!!!!. I Duff my hat for you. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Creamybabe(f): 12:06pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Why should I hold on to God's portion when he has blessed me(Malachi 3:10). Daddy freeze is talking from his own perspective of what he understands by tithing. And he wants to discourage tithers. You pay your tithe in the house of God, sow seed to the less previledge And give to the poor. Is not your duty to pokenose what tithe is used for. You have done your part, leave the rest for God. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by MrMystrO(m): 12:14pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Inova: Lol Thank You Sir. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by YelloweWest: 12:55pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Notmyproblem:Logic is science. Belief in God is through faith. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Larriekay: 12:57pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
eleojo23:awesome. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by SwagPower: 1:12pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
MrMystrO:..Wat u wrote up dere is biutiful.. Prolly dt most biutiful tin av read on dis forum.. Although I myt not b overly religious myself.. I still believe the world needs religion.. Humans nid a check and balance.. Imagine a situation where everyone believes there's is nothing after death.. No hell it heaven.. Wat is to stop some people pple from commiting heinous crimes against fellow humans.. Religions keeps some of our most despicable attributes under lock n key.. Although some of us have transcended Dt primitive stage and capable of Humane deeds without d fear that religion peddles... Religion is wat stands between humans n total anarchy.. Dts y I'd say to fellow skeptics.. Dnt go Abt castigating pple's beliefs.. Most of us were like dem b4 our awakening.. Lead dem gently away from d indoctrination.. Insults n mocking their beliefs will Neva make dem change.. As psychology has proved the more u tried to convince som1 dt dey r wrong.. The more tightly dey hold on to deir beliefs either our of sheer stubbornness or a slighted Ego.. #Shalom.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by delexy123: 1:19pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
SonyObsessed:You are a fake atheist at that if you care about what happen in the church community. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Notmyproblem: 1:20pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
YelloweWest: I think that is a line we Christians throw around to get out of a tough discussion. It is kind of strange to me that you are all for accepting the argument of those in support of tithing because it is from the word of God and as such it's potency is faith based but not so quick to let your faith play out in Freeze's position which also has Bible backing. At least he was kind enough to back his stand with Bible verses. I am conflicted on how best to reconcile the contradictions that your position keeps bringing up. Please help me to understand I am nothing but only a man trying to make sense out of all the conflicting information that has been flying around. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by delexy123: 1:25pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
AlanSugar:There is a difference between paying tithes and doing good. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Notmyproblem: 1:28pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
SwagPower: There is a big hole in your assertion. In most Western European countries majority of the population do not believe in life after death ( by your statement there is nothing to keep them in check hence there is a big chance that chaos will reign) but as today they have the "most humane" leaders and citizens that are considerate and respect the sanctity of lives of their fellow citizens (at least majority of them). Now place this societies side by side Africa/middle East both happen to have majority of faith based inhabitants compared to the world, given the "check and balances" and chance of loosing put from life after that we have been promised, these two region are home to the "most inhumane" political leaders you ever think. The citizens are not left out in both being inconsiderate and pain in the neck of their neighbors. Please brother can you at least give us an explanation of why things are that way? 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by rayopt(m): 1:35pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
. . . .and daddy freeze gained all the attention he wanted!!! Fvck on him tho' i guess, nomenclature is the problem here. . U either give tithe to ya pastor, tax to ya government or buy recharge card for ya gal. . . Any which way. .religion or not. .the natural law is. . . "you reap what you sow" just remember that there is a difference between sowing under a rock and sowing under a fertile soil. Se Fini |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by mywells: 1:46pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Frezze is right cause this pastors are corrupt and thieves at the highest order,who so ever opposed this man called freeze does not read his bible,tithes are for the levite and is been given by the Israelite,is Adeboye or Oyedepo a levite all these pastors would perish in hell fire. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by clefstone(m): 2:08pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
MrMystrO:Your understanding which u have explained above is your religion. The only difference between u and Christians is that you do not follow 'organised religion'. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Bwoodlt: 2:29pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
...Letter killeth, buth the spirit gives live... If you read the Word of God only to find & point out faults in others, the power and revelation which accompanied His word may not be revealed unto you. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 2:49pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
AlanSugar:Depends on the church but I know for sure, Winners pay well and Redeem is okay. The pastor in question may not be full time. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 3:06pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:Nobody knows it all, but how lovely would it be if we can learn from each other in humility without being pompous about it! You claim I don't know anything about tithing. Okay, I agree. What I do know for certain is this, Out of the 12 tribes of Israel, the tribe of Levi were not to do any kind of commercial work, they were to do the work of God wholeheartedly. God in turn commanded the other tribes to give a TENTH of all produce, flock and cattle to the Levite's for their upkeep. Please read Numbers 18:21-28 it is clear enough. Your claim about tithe being used to cater for foreigners, widows and orphans is contained in Deuteronomy 15:7-8 while it is true, it is not relevant in today's world. The Israelites of those days had no central government in place, hence they were to centrally and collectively provide for foreigners, widows and orphans. The modern day church has NO business in providing for Foreigners, if they however feel like then glory to God. Even orphans and widows ought to receive social support from the government and not the church, that is what obtains in modern countries. Many of the wife's of the general overseer's of these churches already has NGOs that ministers to prisoners, motherless babies and orphans. I attend RCCG and I know for certain, mummy G.O sponsors many children to schools and she has NGO that rehabilitate drug addicts and they have several other social works done in and around the community that you may not know of. I hope to learn from you though. Have a good day |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 3:10pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
dayowunmi: ""Even orphans and widows ought to receive social support from the government and not the church"" I stopped reading this trash wen I saw this, pls show me the Scripture backing this ur point up. Only an idiot will say that in Israel there wasn't a central government. |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 3:14pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Kaytixy:Hmm, I get asked this question a lot. All I will say is that it is economically impossible to charge cheap fees for a private university, otherwise such will close down within few years. It takes billions to build a university and it takes billions to maintain it. Payment of salaries, maintenance of infrastructure and staff development in terms of traveling to conferences in and around the world are all mandatory for every university I assume. All these will cost several millions if not billions monthly, there's no way these church institutions will meet up by charging 50k or 100k. If the universities were built with tithe they cannot be run with tithes, otherwise when tithe is low, maybe the staff salaries which I assume is fixed will also reduce? You cannot run an average university without adequate funds! |
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dayowunmi(m): 3:16pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Araoluwa005:Amen sir and you too. Have a great and splendid week ahead. I wish u God speed 1 Like |
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