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wirinet:
Telling and threatening people not to vote is a serious crime anywhere in the world. If you try this nonsense in the USA, you will not see the sun for a very long time.

I am even annoyed that Buhari is allowing this rubbish to continue, all the people that have been intimidating the electorate with violence if they perform their constitutional duty of voting should be arrested and dealt with. The government must make voters feel secure from IPOBs threats and intimidation during this election period. What is the government doing to assure voters of their safety during the elections? I am beginning to think government is complicit in this whole issue, maybe they don't won't high voter turn out to make rigging easier.

IPOB cannot decide they want referendum or anything, as IPOB is nothing but group of anarchists lead by one man, they have no authority to demand anything.

IPOB, cannot boycott an election they are not a participant in, you only boycott election you candidate or your party is on the ballot. IPOB can only advise sympathizers not to vote. Not all the 2 million plus registered voters are sympathizers of IPOB.

Threatening another person with violence is a criminal offense anywhere in the world.

You are being dramatic. IPOB did not threaten anyone with violence, thats not how they operate. This was a rally to urge people to boycott the election, election boycott is legal. The person making the video then wished death on anyone who votes and he is speaking for himself. IPOB never said anything about going after people who go to vote. IPOB is not known as a violent organisation.

What can Buhari do? Send in the Army to kill more people? Arrest thousands of IPOB members? This has gone beyond the scope of Buhari.

IPOB can demand a referendum, even just me can demand a referendum. Anyone is entitled to demand a referendum, how the government reacts is a different matter.

The important issue here is if IPOB used violence in its demand for referendum? They did not. There was clash with the Army in Abia but that was it.

I do not see what IPOB has done wrong here

enemyofprogress:
e pain am die
Chineke na-ata ụlọ nna gị na nna gị ahụhụ. Ka ọ ghara ịdị gị mma.

my dear head slamming toilet soup drinking osun IDP camp dweller.....


inferiority complex no go allow u let Igbo people be...

abeg make we go slam our head 5 more times so moha will make Igbos hate biafra

gidgiddy:
You are being dramatic. IPOB did not threaten anyone with violence, thats not how they operate. This was a rally to urge people to boycott the election, election boycott is legal. The person making the video then wished death on anyone who votes and he is speaking for himself. IPOB never said anything about going after people who go to vote. IPOB is not known as a violent organisation.

What can Buhari do? Send in the Army to kill more people? Arrest thousands of IPOB members? This has gone beyond the scope of Buhari.

IPOB can demand a referendum, even just me can demand a referendum. Anyone is entitled to demand a referendum, how the government reacts is a different matter.

The important issue here is if IPOB used violence in its demand for referendum? They did not. There was clash with the Army in Abia but that was it.

I do not see what IPOB has done wrong here

The bolded is the being economical with the truth, IPOB main modus operandi is using threats of violence and insults to promote their agenda. All Kanu and its IPOB followers know how to do is insult and threaten everybody who disagrees with their ideology with violence.

The IPOB member or official in an IPOB rally who promised or wished ( as you prefer to term it) death to anyone who come out to vote is only speaking for himself, but a Yoruba king or doctor in the privacy of his home who says anybody who does not vote for his candidate in an election is speaking for the whole Yoruba ethnic group.

IPOB is threatening violence as the only strategy for forcing the government to agree to a referendum. It has not even considered the political alternatives. It has no political strategy or even base.

No government, and I mean no government even in the western world would allow half of what IPOB are getting away with in Nigeria.

In the US, Kathy Griffen was invited by the secret service for using the severed head of donald Trump in a photo shoot, and you guys are justifying IPOB's threat to severe the head of Buhari, after that you guy will scream IPOB is not a violent organization.

wirinet:
The bolded is the being economical with the truth, IPOB main modus operandi is using threats of violence and insults to promote their agenda. All Kanu and its IPOB followers know how to do is insult and threaten everybody who disagrees with their ideology with violence.

The IPOB member or official in an IPOB rally who promised or wished ( as you prefer to term it) death to anyone who come out to vote is only speaking for himself, but a Yoruba king or doctor in the privacy of his home who says anybody who does not vote for his candidate in an election is speaking for the whole Yoruba ethnic group.

IPOB is threatening violence as the only strategy for forcing the government to agree to a referendum. It has not even considered the political alternatives. It has no political strategy or even base.

No government, and I mean no government even in the western world would allow half of what IPOB are getting away with in Nigeria.

In the US, Kathy Griffen was invited by the secret service for using the severed head of donald Trump in a photo shoot, and you guys are justifying IPOB's threat to severe the head of Buhari, after that you guy will scream IPOB is not a violent organization.

using the SEVERED HEAD OF DONALD TRUMP IN A PHOTO SHOOT. has ipob carried guns threatening to shoot anyone?Wole Soyinka after promising that he would pot out of US if Trump wins, has he not gone back.IPOB IS NON VOILENT.Kindly learn from their non voilent method unlike OPC and BOKO HARAM.

reality1010:
using the SEVERED HEAD OF DONALD TRUMP IN A PHOTO SHOOT. has ipob carried guns threatening to shoot anyone?Wole Soyinka after promising that he would pot out of US if Trump wins, has he not gone back.IPOB IS NON VOILENT.Kindly learn from their non voilent method unlike OPC and BOKO HARAM.

I mean using a plastic mask of the severed head of Donald Trump.
See it here - www.google.com.ng/amp/amp.tmz.com/2017/09/14/kathy-griffin-trump-beheading-photo-hot-ticket-item-prints

Promoting violence is a crime, it can encourage sympathizers to carry out violent actions. That is how ISIS get sympathizers in foreign countries to commit violent acts.

Whole Soyinka's bluff has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

IPOB believes in the use of violence to achieve its political agenda. It promotes violence.

wirinet:
The bolded is the being economical with the truth, IPOB main modus operandi is using threats of violence and insults to promote their agenda. All Kanu and its IPOB followers know how to do is insult and threaten everybody who disagrees with their ideology with violence.

The IPOB member or official in an IPOB rally who promised or wished ( as you prefer to term it) death to anyone who come out to vote is only speaking for himself, but a Yoruba king or doctor in the privacy of his home who says anybody who does not vote for his candidate in an election is speaking for the whole Yoruba ethnic group.

IPOB is threatening violence as the only strategy for forcing the government to agree to a referendum. It has not even considered the political alternatives. It has no political strategy or even base.

No government, and I mean no government even in the western world would allow half of what IPOB are getting away with in Nigeria.

In the US, Kathy Griffen was invited by the secret service for using the severed head of donald Trump in a photo shoot, and you guys are justifying IPOB's threat to severe the head of Buhari, after that you guy will scream IPOB is not a violent organization.

I challenge you to say any incidence of violence that can be attributed to IPOB outside the clash with Army or police such as Python dance. Where has IPOB been deliberately violent?

Threatening violence is not the same as being violent. In this particular video, those protesting did not threaten violence on anyone, the person who made the video only wished death on those who vote. He never said either him or IPOB are coming for those who vote.

The person in the video was speaking for himself. But the Oba of Lagos said he will send Igbos to the Lagoon while addressing a group of Igbos.

If a person, or group threatens violence, the law says that the authorities should investigate and charge to court where necessary. Threat is merely saying something that has not yet happend, a person cannot be criminalised for actions they are yet to carry out.

olamefun1990:
I hope u won't claim victim when the army do the needful....

listen very well... The power of Useless and uneducated Nigeria Army is only GUN.

stephanie11:
@POLITICSNGR
Members of the Indigenous people of Biafra(IPOB) group are currently marching across major roads in Onitsha, the commercial city of Anambra State ahead of the November 18, gubernatorial election in the state.

This development is arising when preparations for the Anambra polls are in high gear. The election is expected to hold on November 18th.

It will be recalled that it been months since the leader of IPOB, Nnamdi Kanu has been missing and his whereabouts unknown. Kanu was last seen in September during a military raid of his Afaraukwu compound in Umuahia, Abia state.

PoliticsNGR has gotten footage and photographs from the scene. Watch below;

SOURCE : POLITICSNGR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t8zo-6oUFQ

They're very free to protest peacefully and boycott the elections, but they should not harrass those that want to vote when they do that then they have committed a crime and will be dealt with as the Govt see fit.

Nobody is against their agitations or whatever but all of these should be done peacefully, come 18th Nov 2017, those that want to sit at home and eat Ofe Nsala should stay at home to eat, while those that want to vote can go and vote simple.

gidgiddy:
I challenge you to say any incidence of violence that can be attributed to IPOB outside the clash with Army or police such as Python dance. Where has IPOB been deliberately violent?

Threatening violence is not the same as being violent. In this particular video, those protesting did not threaten violence on anyone, the person who made the video only wished death on those who vote. He never said either him or IPOB are coming for those who vote.

The person in the video was speaking for himself. But the Oba of Lagos said he will send Igbos to the Lagoon while addressing a group of Igbos.

If a person, or group threatens violence, the law says that the authorities should investigate and charge to court where necessary. Threat is merely saying something that has not yet happend, a person cannot be criminalised for actions they are yet to carry out.

See how you are disgracing yourself and supporting evil, let's then assume the Oba of Lagos and the US based doctor were speaking in their personal capacities and not for the Yoruba race.

Do you know I can report you to the police for threat to life if you don't know, I'm sure if the police starts picking up those threatening death on others, you'd be the first to shout witch-hunting.


I challenge you to tell us you never heard about IPOB miscreants attacking police stations in PH and other locations and demanding for the release of their fellow miscreants who were earlier arrested, this was even before the python dance 2.

Evil is evil no matter how you want to paint it, IPOB wanted a boycott but seeing the scenario on ground, they decided to threaten people, is that not a sign of defeat on their part? Let them test their popularity without the threats and FYI, this action of IPOB will make more people dissociate from it. I'm sure if this threat was coming from a Yoruba or Hausa person or group, you'd have been shouting ICC, UN, ECOWAS etc.

gare:
They're very free to protest peacefully and boycott the elections, but they should not harrass those that want to vote when they do that then they have committed a crime and will be dealt with as the Govt see fit.

Nobody is against their agitations or whatever but all of these should be done peacefully, come 18th Nov 2017, those that want to sit at home and eat Ofe Nsala should stay at home to eat, while those that want to vote can go and vote simple.

Simple as ABC, stay at home or you go and vote, why the threats? They don't know that threat to life is a crime. I really blame the FG for treating this nonsense with kids gloves and might even have a hand in all of this.

guru90:
listen very well... The power of Useless and uneducated Nigeria Army is only GUN.

You can as well pick up your gun and challenge the army, Boko Haram are doing it, Niger delta militants did it so what is stopping you?

wirinet:
I mean using a plastic mask of the severed head of Donald Trump.
See it here - www.google.com.ng/amp/amp.tmz.com/2017/09/14/kathy-griffin-trump-beheading-photo-hot-ticket-item-prints

Promoting violence is a crime, it can encourage sympathizers to carry out violent actions. That is how ISIS get sympathizers in foreign countries to commit violent acts.

Whole Soyinka's bluff has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

IPOB believes in the use of violence to achieve its political agenda. It promotes violence.

You don't need to educate those dunces everytime, which country on earth can stomach what cowardly kanu and his brainwashed followers did for such a long time if not Nigeria? The lady who gave Donald Trump the middle finger was sacked within days, if this was to happen in Nigeria, I'm sure IPOB would've written letter to heaven and not just the ICC or UN.

wirinet:
The bolded is the being economical with the truth, IPOB main modus operandi is using threats of violence and insults to promote their agenda. All Kanu and its IPOB followers know how to do is insult and threaten everybody who disagrees with their ideology with violence.

The IPOB member or official in an IPOB rally who promised or wished ( as you prefer to term it) death to anyone who come out to vote is only speaking for himself, but a Yoruba king or doctor in the privacy of his home who says anybody who does not vote for his candidate in an election is speaking for the whole Yoruba ethnic group.

IPOB is threatening violence as the only strategy for forcing the government to agree to a referendum. It has not even considered the political alternatives. It has no political strategy or even base.

No government, and I mean no government even in the western world would allow half of what IPOB are getting away with in Nigeria.

In the US, Kathy Griffen was invited by the secret service for using the severed head of donald Trump in a photo shoot, and you guys are justifying IPOB's threat to severe the head of Buhari, after that you guy will scream IPOB is not a violent organization.

Sometimes I'm made to feel the FG is clandestinely supporting IPOB activities for some reasons I don't understand, why would they allow all the crap for this long?

Notmyproblem:
Soldiers on what mission? Attacked them with what?

Ask around and stop delving into things you know nothing about

Notmyproblem:
This shows your lack of knowledge. IPOB claimed they have secret service and you sent in armed soldiers without any intelligence to confirm it, now we see why NA are still fighting BH after several years.

The first thing you learn in the military is before you put booths on the ground ensure that your intelligence is correct. Deploying soldiers on false intelligence not only comprise the mission but put the lives of the soldiers at risk. From your assertion NA acted based on IPOB insinuation without doing their job properly.

I can see how narrow minded you are and how difficult it is for you to read situations critically before taking actions. You are just one of those kids running unattended online.

And here I leave you to your device.

You should know that the FG was being magnanimous in allowing kanu to display his madness for such a long time, no country on earth would even allow 1/10th of kanu's madness except Nigeria. A threat to national unity is a threat to the territorial intergrity and sovereignty of the nation and that is not the job of the police or Boys scout to protect.

tobiasbeecher:
And I guess you were among the soldiers to know that several "warning shots'' were fired for people to move away. You can keep living in denial about the murderous activities of the Nigerian army, It doesn't because sincerely it is not your fault after all you're a product of this dysfunctional country.

Your reasoning is actually a function of the dysfunctional system you were raised in so I don't blame you.
Do you think I'm one of those who only listen to what radio Biafra tells them? I knew people who were there that day even if I've warned them earlier not to go, thank God common sense fell on them to leave before the soldiers started the onslaught on the remaining stubborn ones.
What was wrong and murderous with what the soldiers did, did they go dragging people out of their houses to be shot, why didn't the soldiers start the shooting immediately they left the barracks but started shooting when they got to kanu's house? Use your gaddam brain God gave you, it's not for fancy

Yyeske:
You can as well pick up your gun and challenge the army, Boko Haram are doing it, Niger delta militants did it so what is stopping you?

This is the reason why Nigeria Army are dieing like fowl via Boko Haram and militants hands.........

guru90:
This is the reason why Nigeria Army are dieing like fowl via Boko Haram and militants hands.........

You can add to the number of soldiers dieing as well then

Yyeske:
Your reasoning is actually a function of the dysfunctional system you were raised in so I don't blame you.
Do you think I'm one of those who only listen to what radio Biafra tells them? I knew people who were there that day even if I've warned them earlier not to go, thank God common sense fell on them to leave before the soldiers started the onslaught on the remaining stubborn ones.
What was wrong and murderous with what the soldiers did, did they go dragging people out of their houses to be shot, why didn't the soldiers start the shooting immediately they left the barracks but started shooting when they got to kanu's house? Use your gaddam brain God gave you, it's not for fancy

look at your stupid statement. ... Soldiers started shooting the stubborn once........
Are they criminal? why must uneducated Nigeria Army started shooting at them.....
Think twice.

guru90:
look at your stupid statement. ... Soldiers started shooting the stubborn once........
Are they criminal? why must uneducated Nigeria Army started shooting at them.....
Think twice.

Speak good English or stop quoting my mentions.

Yyeske:
Speak good English or stop quoting my mentions.

Stop judging what you don't know about.

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guru90:
listen very well... The power of Useless and uneducated Nigeria Army is only GUN.

And urs is obviously in ur chest beating and noise making. Be civil and the government will be

PrecisionFx:
Read well Sir.

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Referendum50:
trash

Ok Sir.

Yyeske:
Stop mentioning those shallow chest beaters and giving them some level of importance, just allow them to continue wallowing in their ignorance

I hear my personal person

Did you really comprehend what I wrote or you just open your gutter to out those maggots manufactured tru dos wite tissue inside ur skull?. It is true English is not ur native language but at least get an interpreter before you make a fool of your ancestors from the waste side of ds country.
Western knowledge is very difficult for you, I can relate to that, Skunk like you.

enigmaticlion:
your brain is full of expired yoghurt. This una biafrauud dream don turn you to monkey. I hope you're located and locked up in a zoo with real life monkeys. Na so una go dey make noise for social media but when python behind dance, una go run enter una potopoto village, anuofia

tobiasbeecher:
Mr man just shut up and stop disgracing yourself! In one hand you will be blaming Ipop for protesting and accusing them of violence but at the same time, you're trusting the Hausa soldiers that kill people extra-judiciously. I didn't see you condemn the army for killing innocent people in Aba in September. You and your likes were here justifying it and saying that those Ipob guys deserve it. Now you're trying to claim high moral ground...Hypocrites everywhere! They become human rights activist when it suits them.

Tobiasbeecher, make sure you join them oh. Put your might and self where your mouth is. That is the only language crazy mumus like you understand. I equally used Shites and Bokoharam. Its their ideology, they will not listen to anyone else, same with Ipob, they dont ever obey the police or army, they complain of everything under the sun. What are you trying to justify now? Your defiance to law enforcement or to Federal govt? Where else in the world can you do this and get away with it? Yes, its kill kill kill until you all get in line. Who says they're innocent? You? But, you and I know you cannot be trusted. Also, you never keep to promises, Where is Kanu? he jumped bail, you see nothing wrong, he violated bail conditions, nothing wrong, if he is re-arrested now you will start screaming he is innocent.

gidgiddy:
You are typical example of why Nigeria can never be good. You care more about sentiments than the rule of law.

It is very unfortunate that many Nigerians such as your self do not care what the constitution says, they care more about stupid reasoning.

The government procribed IPOB as a terrorist organisation, which is being challenged in court, but the government cannot proscribe the constitution. Wether IPOB is proscribed or not, people still have the right to agitate, wave their flags and demonstrate as per the rights given to them under chapter 4 of the Nigerian constitution.

Telling people not to vote is not a crime, anybody can tell anyone not to vote. What is a crime is stopping people from voting. Since the Anambra election is yet to hold, what crime has IPOB commited? None

If IPOB decides they want to get referendum from government through election boycott, protesting, demontration, flying Biafran colours,persuasion and civil disobedience, all of them are legal under the laws of Nigeria.

Your problem is that you are just that you are another uncivilised Nigerian who thinks everything is solved by force of arms. But when that armed struggle starts, thats when Nigerian government starts running around to negotiate with Boko haram, Fulani herdsmen, Niger Delta militants.

But it is IPOB that has not yet taken up arms that is your headache

Hmmmm..........

Gidygidy, you ommitted the "threat" of death issued by Ipob to anyone that votes. Again, if FG or the Nigerian army proscribes a group as a terrorist group and they now take the case to court, they automatically the FG's proscription is now void because they the case is in court with no ruling or sitting yet? Also, in your protest, you can take over roads and block movement and wave flags in a peaceful demonstration right? Like i have always said, you lack sincerity, you lack objectivity. maybe if you talk to others that has a different view and mindset you might learn. Also, everyone knows about the injustice of the army and vigilante on bokoharam and those that look like bokoharam. I dont see same for Ipobs.

gidgiddy:
Restrict what? Have you seen IPOB touch anyone? Threat is nothing but saying something that is yet to happen. How can you criminalise a person or group for what they have not yet done?

Ol boy what are you trying to justify? Open mouth talk openly or threaten to kill any president or better still write am on top your wall if dem born you well. Dont you know people might be tempted to stay home based on the threat? Do you know what that will do to people's psyche, that the've been threatened with death if they should go vote.... Sometimes, its painful arging with you, pls talk to a lawyer and get some education, period.

People that are neither Biafrans nor living in Biafra whining the most. Biafra shall be a thorn in the flesh until justice is served.

Organs:
Gidygidy, you ommitted the "threat" of death issued by Ipob to anyone that votes. Again, if FG or the Nigerian army proscribes a group as a terrorist group and they now take the case to court, they automatically the FG's proscription is now void because they the case is in court with no ruling or sitting yet? Also, in your protest, you can take over roads and block movement and wave flags in a peaceful demonstration right? Like i have always said, you lack sincerity, you lack objectivity. maybe if you talk to others that has a different view and mindset you might learn. Also, everyone knows about the injustice of the army and vigilante on bokoharam and those that look like bokoharam. I dont see same for Ipobs.

IPOB did not threaten to kill anyone who votes. The guy in the video wished death on anyone who votes and he is speaking for himself. There is a big difference between wishing death on someone and threatening to go and kill the person.

But I have to say that making verbal threats hold little or no weight under the law. Who doesnt make threats? Nigerians make threats every day, "I will deal with you!", "I will kill you today!", "I will finish you". Happens everyday.

Verbal threat with no action to back it up does not mean anything and so far, IPOB has not touched anyone.