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Hello everyone. Today, We're going to plunge into the the depths of one of the most intermittently asked questions: WHY DOES EVIL EXIST? I oblige everyone (believers..bibles in hand and non) to read meticulously, to get a grip on what is going on.
[pls, don't mind the epistlelistic explanation... even after alot of editing!]
Why did God allow evil in the world? You could frame the question a number of ways. If the Creator God is so good, why is there so much evil in the world? In fact, the reality of evil in the world is one of the favorite justifications of those who reject the God of the Bible. They're eager to ask those questions in a myriad of different ways...how can God be holy and allow His creation to be dominated by unholiness? How can God be perfectly righteous and ordain the presence of unrighteousness? There are a number of ways that this particular idea is effectively communicated. One is a syllogism, a series of logical steps such as the biblical God is loving...the biblical God is all-knowing, the biblical God is all powerful, yet massive evil exists in the world therefore the biblical God does not exist. That is to say that whoever allows this evil cannot be loving, or cannot be holy, or cannot be all powerful and still allow evil.
In the minds of many (especially atheist), this backs Christians up into an impossible corner. And there are many Christians who would agree with that and they would grab Deuteronomy 29:29, "The secret things belong to the Lord," and punt that into the opposition's territory as far as they can. Is that the best we can do when pressed against our own theological end zone, is to punt
Deuteronomy 29:29? Isn't there anything better than that in the divine play book? Isn't there some kind of long pass we can complete, something that will not only allow us to escape from defeat, but guarantee victory?
I believe there is. I believe that Scripture gives us an answer and without hesitation we can know that answer, we can understand that answer, and we can find eminent satisfaction in that answer. It is not enough to simply say the secret things belong to the Lord, which is to say we don't know, God doesn't tell us. God did not tell Adam and Eve why He let that snake in the garden and gave that snake the ability to talk. Nor did God tell Job why He unleashed calamity, disease, disaster and death and Satan into his life. So isn't that the best approach, to just say we really don't know, Scripture doesn't tell us? That would be the best answer if Scripture didn't tell us. If that was honestly the case and we said that we have no scriptural answer, that's fine. But we do have a scriptural answer.
And this opens up to our thinking a whole category of theological truth that goes under the name of theodicy. It comes from two Greek words, theos
meaning God, and dikē which is the root of the words that mean righteousness or righteous, or just, or justice. A theodicy is an explanation of how God can be just, or how God can be righteous. It is a defense of God's righteousness in the face of the presence of pervasive sin. And so I want to give you what I believe is a biblical theodicy, a biblical defense of why God who is holy, who is loving, who is all-knowing, who is all-powerful has allowed evil to dominate His creation?
. Number one, evil exists. This is without serious argument. It is incontrovertible unless you are a Christian science advocate.
The answer is not to play some ridiculous metaphysical game to say something doesn't exist that clearly does exist. Evil exists. It exists apparently, manifestly, massively, dominantly in our world. And there are a number of categories in which evil exists.
There is natural evil. That is impersonal, external, physical, temporal evil in the form of diseases, disasters, catastrophes, the kinds of things that come from the physical world, the cursed creation from tiny bacteria to tidal waves, from viruses to volcanoes. The whole natural world is blighted by bad things, things that make you sick, things that injure you, things that kill you. And humans since the Fall have lived at the mercy of the physical corruption. All you have to do is go back to the book of Genesis and not long after the Fall comes the Flood which basically is a massive natural disaster ordained and authored and executed by God Himself which drowns the entire human race with the exception of eight people. There is natural evil beyond the Flood even to this very day, rarely does a day go by when we don't hear of someone somewhere dying in some kind of natural disaster, or some plague, or some illness sweeping through the lives of people.
Secondly, there's moral evil. Moral evil is personal as opposed to natural evil which is impersonal. It is internal, it is spiritual. It is wickedness, sin, transgression, iniquity. it is a disposition. It is an attitude, it is a course of thinking, speaking and conduct which dominates the human race so that Scripture says, "No one is good, not even one." Scripture says, "All the thoughts of the human heart are only evil continually." Scripture says that it is out of the heart that lust conceives and produces sin and from that sin comes death. The Bible tells us that society is dominated by corruption. And it is not a disaster that kills us. A disaster may kill us, but if we miss all the disasters and all the diseases, we will still die because the waves of sin is death. The corruption comes to every human being. It impacts every life, every relationship. All of humanity is made up of sinners, no one is exempt. And all the immoral sinners collide with each other in malfunctioning families and friendships and rivalries and associations and nations. The collision of wicked, selfish, immoral hearts fills the world with one disaster after another.
Then thirdly there is supernatural evil. This is the evil that is basically perpetrated by demons, fallen angels, the associates of Satan, the number of the angels that fell from heaven with Satan as indicated in Revelation 12 to be a third of the angels, leaving two thirds remaining as holy angels, one third are fallen. Satan is one of those and the whole world,
1 John 5:20 says, lies in the lap of the evil one. These vile beings are as old as creation. They are unmitigatedly wicked. There is nothing in them that is good at all. They ply their wickedness on an angelic level and also on a human level. It will get worse in the future when God casts them all into the earth in the future time of Tribulation. Satan who leads them is for this time given TEMPORAL AUTHORITY over the world system. He has a temporary and delegated sovereignty in this world so that even as believers we are not wrestling against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness and authorities in high places that are wicked. There is a massive, spiritual struggle going on in this world system effected by demons. They have the power to seduce and deceive humanity against God and against the gospel and against Scripture and to draw them deeper and deeper into immorality and iniquity.
And then there is another category of evil, eternal evil. In a word, hell. People who go to hell, the majority of the human race, will be forever evil. The worm will not die. The fire will not be quenched. The remorse will not end. The judgment will not cease. The punishment will not be mitigated.
Yes there is evil. And there is not marginal evil and there is not minimal evil, there is pervasive, dominant evil. And I guess you could say that evil has a kind of secondary dominance in the whole of creation. It effects everything. It effects the natural creation, the supernatural creation and the human and personal creation.
So we start with the obvious. We admit it. We don't deny it. Anybody who denies it is an absolute fool. Evil is massive, evil is out of control, evil is ingrained, it is systemic, it is everywhere all the time manifest in every one.
Now let's move to the next factor in our reasoning. First, evil exists. second, God exist. And only one God exists and He is the God revealed in Scripture, the one, true and only living God, the God of the Bible. He is as the Revelation of Scripture describes Him. He is all-powerful, He is all-knowing, He is loving, and He is absolutely holy. He controls absolutely everything. The Bible tells us that GOD EXIST and that NOTHING EXIST THAT HE DOES NOT ORDAIN. Everything is designed by, ordained by, and controlled by God. That is the biblical testimony.
Let me remind you of it. Psalm 115:3, "Our God is in the heavens, He has done whatever He pleased."
Daniel 4:35, "He does according to His will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth and none can stay His hand or say unto Him, 'What are you doing?'" Scripture repeatedly affirms the sovereignty of God over everything. God's sovereignty is absolute, irresistible and infinite.
When we say that God is sovereign, we simply mean He has a right to be in charge of absolutely everything because He, in fact, is in charge of absolutely everything. That is why 1 Timothy 6:15 says, "He is the only potentate, or ruler. He is the only sovereign, the only monarch." In
Revelation 4:11 we read, "You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power, for You have created all things and for Your pleasure they are and were created." "All things" is the operative phrase. Everything fits into God's pleasure. Everything is to please God.
Proverbs 16:4, "The Lord has made all things for Himself, even the wicked for the day of evil."
read Deut 32:39. "See now that I, I am He...says God...and there is no God beside Me, it is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded. It is I who heal and there is no one who can deliver from My hand." Or Exodus 4:11, "The Lord said to Moses, 'Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes him mute, or deaf, or seeing, or blind? Is it not I the Lord?'" Or
Psalm 105:16, "He called for a famine upon the land." Or 2 Kings 17:25, "They did not fear the Lord, therefore the Lord sent lions which killed some of them." Scripture is very clear that GOD IS BEHIND what we would classify as GOOD things and EVIL things, or bad things. God created out of His own free choice, uninfluenced, God created everything that is, ordained everything that is. And in
2 Samuel 10:12 it says, "The Lord does what seems to Him good."
read Isaiah 46:9 and 10, "Remember the former things of old, for I am God, there is none else, I am God. There is none like Me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times to things that are not yet done, saying My counsel shall stand, I will do all My pleasure." 1Samuel 2:6 to 8, "The Lord kills and makes alive. He brings down to the grave, and brings up. He makes poor and makes rich. He brings low and lifts up." Or Amos 3:6, "IF there is a CALAMITY in the city, WILL NOT THE LORD HAVE DONE IT?"
God controls absolutely everything. There is no evil outside His plan. There is no evil outside His purpose. He knows everything that can be known, that is knowable. He has comprehensive power to do everything that can be done that is possible. That is what the Bible says about God. And in that perfect knowledge, and in that perfect power, and with perfect holiness, and expressing His perfect love, God ordains everything.
That leads us to a third conclusion. Evil exists, God exists, and this is the only God who exists, thirdly, GOD WILLS EVIL TO EXIST. It is inescapable.
Turn in your Bible for a moment to Isaiah 45:5. "I am the Lord, there is no other. Besides Me there is no God. I will gird you though you have not known Me that men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun that there is no one besides Me. I am the Lord, there is no other." That's fairly well established in those two verses. "I am the One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity. I am the Lord who does all these." Go down to verse 9. "Woe to the one who quarrels with His maker. An earthenware vessel among the vessels of earth? Will the clay say to the potter, 'What are you doing?' Or the things you are making say, 'He has no hands.' Woe to him who says to a father, 'What are you begetting?' Or to a woman, 'To what are you giving birth?' No pot can tell the potter what to do. No born child can tell his parents to give birth or not give birth. Nor can you question what God does." And God clearly has ordained evil.
Now at this point panic strikes the heart of hyper religious "Christians". They become short of breath here. What? God has ordained evil? They don't deny God's power, They don't even deny that God should be glorified in saving sinners. But the panic attack hits them because they cannot let God be held responsible for evil. If you want to drive Arminian theology, or the opposite of Reformed theology, or the opposite of Calvinism, that kind of theology that denies that God is sovereign and that regeneration is fully a work of God, that kind of theology that says man is sovereign, he's responsible for his own life, he makes his own choices and he becomes a sinner on his own, and he believes on his own and he exercises faith on his own, and he is saved by pulling himself up by his own bootstrap, that is to accommodate the idea that is behind that whole system, and that is we can't make God responsible for evil.
why did GOD CREATE CREATURES WHO WOULD be RESPONSIBLE for EVIL KNOWING WHAT THEY WOULD DO? Just backs the responsibility back to Him. The popular way nowadays that people in that category who don't want God to be responsible for evil in the world is to say that either He didn't have the knowledge that evil was coming, or He doesn't have the power to deal with it. One of the two. Either He in His creation made everything perfect and didn't know about evil's future existence, and so it caught Him off guard. Or He knew but He didn't have the power to stop it. Or He purposely limited His power to stop it for some higher value. Now those are the kinds of things you have to deal with in this argument. Either God didn't know, didn't have the power, chose not to use the power because He had something even more important than evil, something of higher value in view. These kinds of criticisms are supposed to get God off the hook. But what they do is reinvent God.
There are people actually who aren't even that sophisticated, they're just short answer folks. We hinted at them earlier. You say, "Where did evil come from?" And they'll say, "Oh it came from Adam and Eve." Really? How did it get introduced to Adam and Eve? "Well, oh yeah, that's right, it came from the snake." how did the snake get to a place where he could be embodied by Satan and how did Satan get to be Satan in which he was tempting people to do evil? "Oh well, he came
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"Oh well, he came from...oh, he came from heaven, didn't he?"
So where did evil originate? Evil originated where? In heaven? Yes, evil originated in heaven in an angelic rebellion right under the nose of God. You think that was a shock? Then you don't have a God who is absolutely omniscient. You think God couldn't stop it once it got going? Couldn't put an end to it right on the spot? Then you have a God who is not all powerful. No matter how you deal with it, if you sustain the biblical doctrine of God, God becomes ultimately responsible for the existence of evil.
Now when you boil all this down, there are a number of categories in which theodicies can be created. The first category is metaphysical. That is to say evil is inevitable. It is a corollary of good. It is necessary. It's a necessary opposite of one thing that exists by the very metaphysics of its existence, the opposite can exist as well. It is not that God created evil. It is not that God ordained evil. It is that evil is because good is. It is simply a negation. It is simply a privation. It is the absence of the opposite of. If you have an infinity, you have a finitude. If you have a good, you have an evil.
There's some truth in that to some limited degree metaphysically. There is also the more theological approach to that metaphysical idea and it is this, that because God created humanity good, the potential for evil existed within that creation and man exercising his will chose the evil. So it didn't really come from God, it came from man. It didn't really come from God, it came from Lucifer who made the same choice in heaven. That was strongly the argument of Augustine and Aquinas in ancient times. And there is truth in that. There is the holiness of God and there is the sinfulness of the creature. But it leaves too much to metaphysical inevitability and it asks the question...if because good exists and evil then must exist, is that perpetually true? And when we get to heaven and the new heaven and the new earth because that is eternal and perfect good, will we always be staring down the barrel of potential evil again because it's a metaphysical necessity?
There's a second kind of theodicy. the autonomous theodicy, or theodicies. A number of people come into this category to develop their theodicies. This is the category that suggests the cause of evil is the abuse of free will. And again we're back to our Arminian friends. This is the abuse of free will. And this basically says the highest good to God is free will. Free will trumps everything on God's scale, even evil. God could have prevented evil, but He wanted free will to exist and when He allowed free will to exist, therefore evil exists because those free and autonomous creatures choose evil. And because free will was more important as a reality than eliminating evil, evil exists. Evil exists because God exalts free will. Free will trumps evil on God's value scale so that God had to allow for the possibility of evil in order to preserve the more highly prized autonomy that protects Him from injustice. Again, the bottom line is you can't make God responsible for anything, so the greatest good in the creation is free will...angels have a free will, at least initially, humans have a free will, they make choices, that's the greater good, that's the higher value to God even if it means sin and evil exist. Humans must have the self determined freedom to act. If God acts as a primary cause for people's choices, they would not be free. If God decided they would be coerced and compelled and that would violate their will and we should have a completely free will. That's the highest good. This gets God off the hook again, at least it appears to on a shallow level. But again, it requires reinventing a God...listen to this...who values your will over His own. This is inventing a God who values everybody's over His own and that's not the God in the Scripture.
And anyway, IF GOD KNEW PEOPLE WOULD CHOOSE SIN and HE'LL, WHY did HE GO AHEAD and CREATE them anyway? And why did He design free will? He could decide what the noblest of all virtues was, why make it free will if it's going to end up like this and you're going to have to go to Plan B just to recover from the exercise of these myriad free wills?
If God is not in total control of evil, if He has not ordained it, and if He does not have it under complete control at every millisecond of history, then this universe is out of control at the most crucial point. If God is not in control of this completely, then how and when will He get the knowledge and the power to get it under control? And I would ask you this. Would you rather have a God trying to get control of evil, or a God completely in control of it? Take your choice. But the God of the Bible is complete control of evil for His own purposes. It is really heresy to say that the world is full of evil apart from a predetermined plan and purpose by God that is far above the willy-nilly choices of people.
So what do we know up to now? Evil exists. God exists. God wills evil to exist. He did not create it. He could not create it. But HE DID not PREVENT it. HE ORDAINED it. HE WILLED it. BECAUSE HE HAD A PURPOSE FOR IT... This is critical. He had a purpose for evil.
The REASON FOR GOD ORDAINING EVIL is for the PRAISE OF HIS GLORY (shocking?). Let me ask you a simple question to help you answer the question...the bigger question. Is God more glorious because of sin existing or less glorious? Pretty easy question to answer, isn't it? That really is the ultimate question.
Turn to Romans 3 verse 5 "But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say?"
Grab that phrase. Our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of GOD. It is a verb that means to disclose, to reveal, to put on display, to show. Our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God. Another way to say that would be, "WOULD YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND the RIGHTEOUSNESS of GOD IF YOU didn't UNDERSTAND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS?" Isn't there something to be gained by the contrast? Paul has been showing that God is faithful to His promises to Israel and their sin and unbelief cannot alter God's covenant, cannot alter God's faithfulness. God is righteous. God will do what He said for Israel and even Israel's unrighteousness cannot cancel God's righteousness, but rather gives Him opportunity to demonstrate that righteousness. Even Israel's departure from the truth does no damage to God's truth or God's glory, Paul shows. So in a particular case with regard to Israel, their unrighteousness only made God's righteousness all the more glorious. And in general, unrighteousness only makes righteousness the more wondrous. And so God by allowing unrighteousness is demonstrating righteousness.
Turn to chapter 5 verse 8. "But God demonstrates His own love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Would we understand righteousness without unrighteousness? Would we understand love without sin? Would we understand the love of God in Christ to us if we did not understand how sinful and undeserving and wretched we are? Would we understand the significance of the sufferings of Jesus Christ on the cross for us? Not at all. The cross is the greatest display of the love of God, it is a massive display of the love of God against the backdrop of sin. Our being sinners, our being enemies allows God to put His love on open display.
So, Paul says God demonstrates His righteousness in a context of unrighteousness. God demonstrates His love in a context of hate among enemies. Turn to chapter 9:22 "What if God determining to demonstrate, to display, to openly show His wrath and make His power known endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?" Listen to this. God allowed evil to put His righteousness on display. God allowed evil to put His love on display. And God allowed evil to put His wrath on display. That's verse 22, to demonstrate His wrath. And by doing that, He put His holiness on display.
Would we know God the way we know God without sin? Of course not. We wouldn't know that He is as righteous as He is, as loving as He is, and as holy as He is. God allowed sin so that He could display His wrath. His holy anger over sin, His judgment on sinners...no sin, no display of righteousness, no display of love and no display of holiness. God endured sin. "He endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction." It was a thing that God had to endure. His holy nature had to endure it. He endured it patiently so that in the end He could display His wrath and its full eternal power.
But not just His wrath. Verse 23, "And He did so in order that He might make known," we could translate this demonstrate as well, "The riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy." To display His mercy. God also willed to make known, gnorizo, to...to display His mercy on the vessels which He had prepared beforehand for glory, that's election. No sin, no mercy...no grace, no forgiveness. No salvation. But it is God's nature to manifest His righteousness and to display and manifest His love, and to display and manifest His wrath, and to display and manifest His grace and His holiness. Listen, the WHOLE REASON GOD ORDAINED EVIL to EXIST WAS FOR HIS OWN GLORY SAKE, so that forever and ever holy angels and redeemed saints would give Him glory in full comprehension of all His attributes. Prior to sin God was not worshiped fully for His righteousness against the background of unrighteousness. He was not worshiped nor could be fully for His love until He demonstrated the kind of love that loves enemy, rebel sinners. He was not worshiped fully for His holiness until His wrath displayed how He hated sin. And He was not worshiped for His grace until He displayed forgiveness and mercy on the elect. In every case there is this great disclosure of the nature of God. Why? To display His glory.
Paul gives us a demonstration of this. go back to verse 17, an illustration and he draws it from Exodus chapter 9 and verse 16. "For THE SCRIPTURE says to PHARAOH...here's a perfect illustration...FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP." Wow, God raised up Pharaoh? God was in charge of Pharaoh being born, growing up in a royal family, ascending to the throne of Egypt? And then being the ruler over the exiled children of Israel, and then making life unbearable for them and then all the plagues, and then all the rest that followed, and the exodus and the drowning of Pharaoh and his entire army? You mean God raised him up? Yes, "For this purpose I raised you up," and here comes our word again, to do what? "To DEMONSTRATE My POWER in YOU." And it was the power of judgment and it was the power of salvation, Passover, the slain lamb, the blood on the doorposts, that is the greatest Old Testament symbol of salvation, is it not? I raised you up to display My wrath and to display My grace.
Why, God? End of verse 17, "THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH." In the end, God does everything for His own glory and He has been glorified throughout the whole earth by His people and He will be in the millennial earth and in the new heaven and the new earth. The greatest good, dear ones, is God's glory. The greatest good is God's glory. And if you don't understand that, then you don't have a God-centered world view.
So how do we respond to that? Go back to verse 15...or, 14. Are you struggling with that? Are you saying it doesn't seem fair? Verse 14, "What shall we say? There's no injustice with God, is there?" No, no, no, no. We can't accuse God of being unrighteous. He has a right to do what He wants. I'll have mercy on whom I have mercy. I'll have compassion on whom I have compassion. It doesn't depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. Verse 18, "So then He has mercy on whom He desires. He hardens whom He desires. You will to me...you will say to me then, why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?" Are you going to argue with God. Are you going to debate the point that God did what He wanted to do? And he reaches right back to what we read earlier, verse 21 from the Psalms, "Does not the potter have a right over the clay to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?" Are you forgetting who's in charge?
"And He did it all," verse 23, "that He might make known the riches of His glory." There's no other explanation. It reminds me of Job, doesn't it you? Job has all that trouble that God allowed to come into his life. Satan comes down, kills everybody in his family except his wife who was a pain. Told him to curse God and die. Takes away everything he owns. Gives him all kinds of illnesses. He's trying to sort out what's going on. And he wants an answer from God. It doesn't seem right. Doesn't seem fair. And God finally speaks to him in Job 38, "The Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind," Job 38, "'Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? "Gird up your loins like a man and I'll ask you, you instruct Me. 'Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?'" That is to say, "If I needed advice from you, I'd have gotten it. I created everything without you. Tell Me if you have understanding. Who said it was measurements since you know? Who stretched the line on it? Where were its bases sunk? Who laid the cornerstone when the morning star sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Who enclosed the sea with doors and bursting forth it went out from the womb and I made a cloud its garment, thick darkness its swaddling band." The language is just rich. Verse 12, "Have you ever in your life commanded the morning? Have you ever caused the dawn to know its place, Job? Have you ever entered into the springs of the sea, verse 16, or walked in the recesses of the deep? Have the gates of death been revealed to you? Have you seen the gates of deep darkness? Have you understood the expanse of the earth? Tell Me, if you know so much."
You have no right to question Me. Chapter 40 verse 1, "The Lord said to Job, 'Will the fault finder content with the Almighty?'" In verse 4, "Okay, Job says to the Lord, 'I'm insignificant, what can I reply to You? I lay my hand on my mouth.'" He's done. Tough talk is I do what I do because I'm God. I do what I do for My glory. And Job got it. Chapter 42, and you have to...you have to get the end of it, verse 1, "Job answered the Lord, said, 'I know You can do all things.'" I affirm that You're the God that Scripture says You are and that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted. Who is this who hides counsel without knowledge? Therefore I have declared that which I do not understand, things too wonderful for me which I didn't know. This is the right response, I don't even know what I'm talking about. Hear now and I'll speak, I'll ask you and do you instruct me?
Job buckles and says "God, I have no right to question You, You are God and You have every right to put Your glory on full display." And evil makes that happen. We will spend forever and ever in the presence of God extolling Him in ways that never would be possible had He not allowed and ordained without ever creating or being the source of it the evil that temporarily dominates the creation. And in His perfect timing, it will all be over and He will destroy this entire universe in a holocaust described by Peter as the elements melting with fervent heat and the creation of a new heaven and a new earth in which only eternal righteousness exists, but we will forever worship with an understanding of the full display of His glory.
HAPPY SUNDAY TO ALL!

Dude this is a really long write up, didn't read it completely cos it's way too long
Question tho...Why would God create the world when he knew that everything would get to this point where innocent humans are suffering, i mean nobody ever asked to be brought into this world,so why dafuq should i have to suffer cos somebody somewhere has a "bigger" plan
I believe evil exist cos for good to exist evil must exist... That's how the world works
Darkness exists, light must exist... Otherwise the world would be without balance..

And this is like a one of the tiniest questions of a larger group of unanswered questions about God..

EmperorHarry:
Dude this is a really long write up, didn't read it completely cos it's way too long
Question tho...Why would God create the world when he knew that everything would get to this point where innocent humans are suffering, i mean nobody ever asked to be brought into this world,so why dafuq should i have to suffer cos somebody somewhere has a "bigger" plan
I believe evil exist cos for good to exist evil must exist... That's how the world works
Darkness exists, light must exist... Otherwise the world would be without balance..

for Him to be properly glorified. would you've understood righteousness without unrighteousness?
Bro, all you ask is in this write up. I know a lot of folks would really love to read it to the end but stop in between. but the only way u can totally get a grasp on WHY EVIL EXIST, is to read to the end.
I plan on posting more unanswered questions every sunday. (its kind of a research work I'm doing as a Christian)

Adeling:
for Him to be properly glorified. would you've understood righteousness without unrighteousness?
Bro, all you ask is in this write up. I know a lot of folks would really love to read it to the end but stop in between. but the only way u can totally get a grasp on WHY EVIL EXIST, is to read to the end.
I plan on posting more unanswered questions every sunday. (its kind of a research work I'm doing as a Christian)

So your trying to justify the reason for damning billons of people to a fate that they didn't sign up for... To walk a very thin thread in order to make it to heaven...dude are you even listening to yourself "So he can properly be glorified"
Funny thing Christians don't realise and something I'm gonna address at some point is the fact that the bible clearly stated that gospel was for the Jews and not the gentiles which is equals anybody that is not a Jew
Which means that God didn't give a damn about every other person who died without knowing the "truth"...so please don't come and be justifying anything for me

EmperorHarry:
So your trying to justify the reason for damning billons of people to a fate that they didn't sign up for... To walk a very thin thread in order to make it to heaven...dude are you even listening to yourself "So he can properly be glorified"
Funny thing Christians don't realise and something I'm gonna address at some point is the fact that the bible clearly stated that gospel was for the Jews and not the gentiles which is equals anybody that is not a Jew
Which means that God didn't give a damn about every other person who died without knowing the "truth"...so please don't come and be justifying anything for me

Adeling:
for Him to be properly glorified. would you've understood righteousness without unrighteousness?
Bro, all you ask is in this write up. I know a lot of folks would really love to read it to the end but stop in between. but the only way u can totally get a grasp on WHY EVIL EXIST, is to read to the end.
I plan on posting more unanswered questions every sunday. (its kind of a research work I'm doing as a Christian)

funny! you really think I would justify a supreme being who created me and ORDAIN the oozing out effect of evil that just keep floating in every corner of the world? really? you think I would justify amos 3:6 or Romans 9:13 - 23? (just read up). I feel the way you feel...trust me. but at the end, it is written "it is not he that willeth nor him that worketh but Him that showeth mercy"
as regards the issue of "jews giving the scriptures and not the gentiles" (I really don't want to dive into this) just scoop out for yourself romans 9:24 "Even us, whom He hath called, NOT of the JEWs only, but also of the GENTILES?" read to 25, and tell me before u create a topic on this, if God is for the Jews only and not for the gentiles.
have a great sunday my brother!

Adeling:
funny! you really think I would justify a supreme being who created me and ORDAIN the oozing out effect of evil that just keep floating in every corner of the world? really? you think I would justify amos 3:6 or Romans 9:13 - 23? (just read up). I feel the way you feel...trust me. but at the end, it is written "it is not he that willeth nor him that worketh but Him that showeth mercy"
as regards the issue of "jews giving the scriptures and not the gentiles" (I really don't want to dive into this) just scoop out for yourself romans 9:24 "Even us, whom He hath called, NOT of the JEWs only, but also of the GENTILES?" read to 25, and tell me before u create a topic on this, if God is for the Jews only and not for the gentiles.
have a great sunday my brother!

You quoting Romans...one of the earliest books in the bible,what happened to those before then...or where the jews the only humans in existence... I'll try to find out what part of the bible where what I'm saying was written

Why shouldn't evil exist? What rule states that there must be only good? Why not only evil?

Adeling

Well, Seun come and close religious thread cause we have our answers here.

Saverin:
Adeling
Well, Seun come and close religious thread cause we have our answers here.

hahaha! I heard seun is an atheist. don't know if it's true.