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There is this false narrative being peddled around with the claim that the Igbo nation are the descendants of a man named Eri. Each day, this narrative grows new arms and legs. A man who was traditionally known as an Igala warrior who set up a camp at Aguleri, in today's Anambra State, suddenly became Eri, the son of Gad of the Bible, and the progenitor of the Igbo race. This fictitious biblical claim was hatched by members of the Eri lineage in Aguleri. It appears to have been a scheme to achieve the following:

http://www.dedechibublog.com/2017/11/the-gad-eri-lie-and-igbo.html?m=1

La click la bend.

chyz:
There is this false narrative being peddled around with the claim that the Igbo nation are the descendants of a man named Eri. Each day, this narrative grows new arms and legs. A man who was traditionally known as an Igala warrior who set up a camp at Aguleri, in today's Anambra State, suddenly became Eri, the son of Gad of the Bible, and the progenitor of the Igbo race. This fictitious biblical claim was hatched by members of the Eri lineage in Aguleri. It appears to have been a scheme to achieve the following:

http://www.dedechibublog.com/2017/11/the-gad-eri-lie-and-igbo.html?m=1

Igbo-phobia is bad for your health

chyz:
There is this false narrative being peddled around with the claim that the Igbo nation are the descendants of a man named Eri. Each day, this narrative grows new arms and legs. A man who was traditionally known as an Igala warrior who set up a camp at Aguleri, in today's Anambra State, suddenly became Eri, the son of Gad of the Bible, and the progenitor of the Igbo race. This fictitious biblical claim was hatched by members of the Eri lineage in Aguleri. It appears to have been a scheme to achieve the following:

http://www.dedechibublog.com/2017/11/the-gad-eri-lie-and-igbo.html?m=1

No election in aaambra.
Nigerdelta avengers

Eri and Gad story is another fraud of the century.

zenmaster:
Igbo-phobia is bad for your health

Igbophobia?

You people have used that word so much has lost all meaning. So if someone doesn't believe Oduduwa came from Arabia, like some people claim, he is now Yoruba-phobic.

Many proud Igbos believe the Hebrew claims are nonsense, and they are still proud Igbos.

RedboneSmith:
Igbophobia?

You people have used that word so much has lost all meaning. So if someone doesn't believe Oduduwa came from Arabia, like some people claim, he is now Yoruba-phobic.

We are talking about Igbo people.

RedboneSmith:
Many proud Igbos believe the Hebrew claims are nonsense, and they are still proud Igbos.

This is not a good argument.

zenmaster:
We are talking about Igbo people.

It was an analogy - you know what that means?

This is not a good argument.

It is a good argument, in context of your using 'Igbophobia' on Igbos who disagree with the Hebrew story.

And stop sharing screenshots from books written when the diffusionist and the Hamitic hypotheses were the only way people could explain the rise of culture in Africa. African history as a robust field of scholarship has advanced beyond that nonsense.

RedboneSmith:
It was an analogy - you know what that means?

Yes but not all analogies fly

RedboneSmith:
It is a good argument, in context of your using 'Igbophobia' on Igbos who disagree with the Hebrew story.

And stop sharing screenshots from books written when the diffusionist and the Hamitic hypotheses were the only way people could explain the rise of culture in Africa. African history as a robust field of scholarship has advanced beyond that nonsense.

This one was published November 11, 2014. Long after the demise of the hamitic hypothesis

It's only Eri villages that claim Israel origin, not all Igbos.

zenmaster:
Yes but not all analogies fly




This one was published November 11, 2014. Long after the demise of the hamitic hypothesis

Yes, by Daniel Lis. One of the voodoo doctors striving to keep the corpse of the dead hypothesis active.

Secondly, I hope you know the book only documents a claim, and never sealed it as irrefutable fact.

RedboneSmith:
Yes, by Daniel Lis. One of the voodoo doctors striving to keep the corpse of the dead hypothesis active.

Secondly, I hope you know the book only documents a claim, and never sealed it as irrefutable fact.

Despite your bad belle, Eze Eri keeps getting multiple invitations to Jewish events.

zenmaster:
Despite your bad belle, Eze Eri keeps getting multiple invitations to Jewish events.

"Bad belle"? LMAO! Over what, bikonu?

Whatever functions the Ezeora of Aguleri or anybody else for that matter attends has no bearing on facts. This function was even organised by wannabe Jews of European descent. So it's the ideal place for him to be - among other wannabes.

Again, please explain what there is to have "bad belle" about in this matter.

RedboneSmith:
"Bad belle"? LMAO! Over what, bikonu?

Whatever functions the Ezeora of Aguleri or anybody else for that matter attends has no bearing on facts. This function was even organised by wannabe Jews of European descent. So it's the ideal place for him to be - among other wannabes.

Again, please explain what there is to have "bad belle" about in this matter.

If you dont have bad-belle, why is the matter paining you like this?

zenmaster:
If you dont have bad-belle, why is the matter paining you like this?

To normal people, correcting fallacies (which is what I have been doing here and on the other thread) is not "bad belle" and "paining". Maybe you're the one pained by my refutation of pseudohistorical junk.

I have a stake in the way Igbo history is told or mistold, because I am Igbo.

RedboneSmith:
To normal people, correcting fallacies (which is what I have been doing here and on the other thread) is not "bad belle" and "paining". Maybe you're the one pained by my refutation of pseudohistorical junk.

Correcting fallacies while embracing new fallacies

RedboneSmith:
I have a stake in the way Igbo history is told or mistold, because I am Igbo.

Good.
Please wake up from your slumber

zenmaster:
Please wake up from your slumber

I could say the same for all you Igbo Zionists.

RedboneSmith:
I could say the same for all you Igbo Zionists.

Years of academic research point to the the Igbo-Hebrew connection.

Your personal incredulity is not enough to refute the mass of research work.

zenmaster:
Correcting fallacies while embracing new fallacies

NEW fallacies?? LMAO!

Your great grand father never knew nothing about no Jewish connection. The pure unadulterated oral tradition of the Igbo people didn't say zit about Israel. It is something Western-educated people sneaked into our story.

Tell me again between the two of us who is peddling NEW fallacies?

RedboneSmith:
NEW fallacies?? LMAO!

Your great grand father never knew nothing about no Jewish connection. The pure unadulterated oral tradition of the Igbo people didn't say zit about Israel. It is something Western-educated people sneaked into our story.

Tell me again between the two of us who is peddling NEW fallacies?

Go and study.

zenmaster:
Years of academic research point to the the Igbo-Hebrew connection.

Your personal incredulity is not enough to refute the mass of research work.

Mass of research work from who? The Igbo nation has produced an impressive train of world-acknowledged historians:

Dr Kenneth Dike

Professor Anene

Adele Afigbo

Don Ohadike

John Oriji.

Etc.

None of them support this Israel trite. Afigbo, the doyen of Igbo historical studies, explicitly calls it nonsense.

Only quacks (many of them not even proper historians) who self-publish because their work is too crappy to be accepted by reputable journals support this Israel myth. So much for "mass of research work".

zenmaster:
Go and study.

I only need to look at the name of the writer to know it is not worth my time. A "Rabbi Tochukwu" will write anything to attach himself to a people whose religion he has appropriated.

RedboneSmith:
Mass of research work from who? The Igbo nation has produced an impressive train of world-acknowledged historians:

Dr Kenneth Dike

Professor Anene

Adele Afigbo

Don Ohadike

John Oriji.

Etc.

None of them support this Israel trite. Afigbo, the doyen of Igbo historical studies, explicitly calls it nonsense.

Only quacks (many of them not even proper historians) who self-publish because their work is too crappy to be accepted by reputable journals support this Israel myth. So much for "mass of research work".

Daniel Lis is not a quack

RedboneSmith:
I only need to look at the name of the writer to know it is not worth my time. A "Rabbi Tochukwu" will write anything to attach himself to a people whose religion he has appropriated.

CNN is not quack also

zenmaster:
CNN is not quack also

Surely you can tell the difference between reporting a claim and confirming that said claim is correct.

RedboneSmith:
Surely you can tell the difference between reporting a claim and confirming that said claim is correct.

Respect your elders

zenmaster:
Daniel Lis is not a quack

I have told you this before. Daniel Lis studied a claim.

Daniel Lis did not in the book prove or even set out to prove the correctness of that claim.

You never even read the book or you would have known this.

And Daniel Lis is one historian.

I gave you a list of distinguished Igbo historians. You gave me the name of one little-known white man.

If it was the other way around now, and I was the one bringing up the name of a white scholar, it is still people like you that will accuse me of believing a white man can tell our history better than our own scholars.

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RedboneSmith:
I have told you this before. Daniel Lis studied a claim.

And Afigbo did not make claims himself?

zenmaster:
Respect your elders

These are not my elders. My elders will not disgrace their heritage in this manner.

But if you show me a picture of Aguleri chiefs wearing the star of David in 1940, I will consider respecting these people.

zenmaster:
And Afigbo did not make claims himself?

You are not following at all, are you?

Afigbo made no claims; he called out an unfounded claim because it was {dramatic pause} unfounded.

RedboneSmith:
These are not my elders. My elders will not disgrace their heritage in this manner.

But if you show me a picture of Aguleri chiefs wearing the star of David in 1940, I will consider respecting these people.

You really need to go and study.
Go for the festival and respect our Omenala