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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 12:49pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


he [Afikpo] called out an unfounded claim because it was {dramatic pause} unfounded.
^^ Which, in itself, is a CLAIM.

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 12:50pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

grin grin grin
You really need to go and study.
Go for the festival and respect our Omenala

Just one picture. In short, I will even accept one from 1970. grin grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 12:51pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


Just one picture. In short, I will even accept one from 1970. grin grin
Igbo amaka grin

Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 12:51pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

^^ Which, in itself, is a CLAIM.

Okay. The true meaning of claim eludes you. But all right.

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 12:52pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

Igbo amaka grin

1985? You've gotta have something from 1985. grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 12:55pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


Okay. The true meaning of claim eludes you. But all right.
LMAO
Claims are claims, regardless of your personal feelings and incredulousity grin
Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 12:56pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


1985? You've gotta have something from 1985. grin
Go and study, my brother.
Igbo amaka grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 12:59pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

Go and study, my brother.
Igbo amaka grin

You are making an ass of yourself at this point. grin grin grin

I have read the two volumes of this book. There is not even a sentence in it about anybody coming Israel. Find me one picture na. Bikozianu. grin grin grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 1:06pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


You are making an ass of yourself at this point. grin grin grin

I have read the two volumes of this book.

There is not even a sentence in it about anybody coming Israel.
Ok
Show me ONE sentence in it about anybody NOT COMING FROM ISRAEL grin grin
Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 1:09pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

Ok
Show me ONE sentence in it about anybody NOT COMING FROM ISRAEL grin grin

Flipping troll! grin grin

Can't prove anything so you gonna just troll abi. Ngwanu.

Eze Idigo of Aguleri in the 1890s. No Star of David in sight. Just his okpensi lying about.

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 1:11pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


Flipping troll! grin grin

Can't prove anything so you gonna just troll abi. Ngwanu.

Eze Idigo of Aguleri 1890s. No Star of David in sight. Just his okpensi lying about.
The Hebrew people are much older than David, and the star of David.
Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 1:15pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

The Hebrew people are much older than David, and the star of David.


Focus. 1890s. 1890s.
Same Eze Idigo of Aguleri in the 1890s.

Again, no Star of David, anywhere. grin grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 1:17pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:



Focus. 1890s. 1890s.
Same Eze Idigo of Aguleri in the 1890s.

Again, no Star of David, anywhere. grin grin
ok
You need to study more grin grin

Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 1:21pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

ok
You need to study more grin grin

Ancient, obsolete,outdated, debunked book. I believe the Enugu State Library has thrown out the copy that used to be on their shelf, along with other dinosaurs. grin grin

Ezeora Chukwuemeka-Eri during his coronation in 1976. See any Star of David in sight? Neither do I. grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 1:22pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

ok
You need to study more grin grin

The same Eze Chukwuemeka-Eri that had no Star of David in 1976. Fast forward to the present day. And whoa! What a transformation --- Star of David and Hebrew inscriptions everywhere.

Elders are not supposed to tell lies o! cry

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 1:23pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


Ancient, obsolete,outdated, debunked book. I believe the Enugu State Library has thrown out the copy that used to be on their shelf, along with other dinosaurs. grin grin

Ezeora Chukwuemeka-Eri during his coronation in 1976. See any Star of David in sight? Neither do I. grin
Your claim that the STAR of David is the only way to recognize Hebrews is INCORRECT.
Ask the newspaper "Times of Israel"

Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 1:26pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


The same Eze Chukwuemeka-Eri that had no Star of David in 1976. Fast forward to the present day. And whoa! What a transformation --- Star of David and Hebrew inscriptions everywhere.

Elders are not supposed to tell lies o! cry
But you conveniently ignore the Paleo-Hebrew writing on the floor of Obu Gad grin grin

Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 1:28pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

But you conveniently ignore the Paleo-Hebrew writing on the floor of Obu Gad grin grin

Show me a picture of that paleo-nonsense from 1967. grin grin

Something that some prankster just arranged recently. Tah! Only fools are taken in by this. grin grin


And is that floor cement? Gad and his people were making German floors in 2000 kpiridim BC? grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 1:29pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:

Show me a picture of that paleo-nonsense from 1967. grin grin

Something that some prankster just arranged recently. Tah! Only fools are taken in by this. grin grin
Tell that to the Jewish Rabbis that continue to flock to Nri grin grin

Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 1:32pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

Tell that to the Jewish Rabbis that continue to flock to Nri grin grin

Ask the old man standing beside that European-descent wannabe Jew why he didn't wear that Star of David for his coronation in 1976. grin grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 1:33pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


Ask the old man standing beside that European-descent wannabe Jew why he didn't wear that Star of David for his coronation in 1976. grin grin
see bronze serpents, the type made by Moses grin grin
Go and study

Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 1:39pm On Nov 14, 2017
zenmaster:

see bronze serpents, the type made by Moses grin grin
Go and study

Oh yes! Look at the very staff Moses used to strike the Red Sea in front of this young man. Profound! grin

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Nobody: 1:42pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


Oh yes! Look at the very staff Moses used to strike the Red Sea in front of this young man. Profound! grin
clearer picture below, accompanied by the feather of Maat

Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by AjaanaOka(m): 2:29pm On Nov 14, 2017
chyz:
There is this false narrative being peddled around with the claim that the Igbo nation are the descendants of a man named Eri. Each day, this narrative grows new arms and legs. A man who was traditionally known as an Igala warrior who set up a camp at Aguleri, in today's Anambra State, suddenly became Eri, the son of Gad of the Bible, and the progenitor of the Igbo race. This fictitious biblical claim was hatched by members of the Eri lineage in Aguleri. It appears to have been a scheme to achieve the following:

http://www.dedechibublog.com/2017/11/the-gad-eri-lie-and-igbo.html?m=1

Hey, I am sure this will make an interesting read, but the link is not working. I've used three different web browsers. If you know the writer/blogger personally, could you tell him to check what the problem is with his site, or upload the paper to a website like academia.edu and share the link? I really want to have a look at it.
Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Ekykool(m): 10:27pm On Nov 14, 2017
Igala warrior indeed!

Facts has it that Igala is an offspring of Eri. You choose to stick to your beliefs all for the sake of having nothing to do with Israel OR disrespecting the headship of Obu-Gad palace.

It's obvious that you are an Aguleri man, Idigo follower precisely. The more you fight the truth, the more you expose it. The truth about the origin of Igbos is prevailing. No man can stop it.

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Ekykool(m): 11:01pm On Nov 14, 2017
The Igalas who are descendants of Atta Eri had their ancestral home in Aguleri in the area of Ama Atta (Atta-in-the-fields). Igala was said to be the father of Ikem and was reputed to have such descendants as Omor, Omasi and Umuneke. The Ikems had sometimes settled in Umukete Aguleri, whose descendants were supposed to be the Ikem of Nando, Ikems in Nsukka, Ikems in Onitsha and other areas.

It is relevant to note that in a preliminary statement on the excavation made in Aguleri by the Department of History and Archaeology, University of Nigeria, Nsukka, Dr. F.N. Anozie said that the excavation took place at a site known as “Okpuno Igala”; and that is known to everybody including school children in Aguleri as a deserted Igala settlement. He said, there were sites with walls, one deserted and the other still inhabited by a group of Aguleri people, who during the author’s filed work in the area said they had blood relations with the Igalas. At the approach is the Ama Atta which seemed to have once been a village square. Almost at the centre of the enclosure is a mound known as “Ukpo eze” (kings throne” and North –East of the mound is the Owelle Atta (toilet area) and Ajo Agu Atta (cemetery).

The present Umukete people in Aguleri who claim blood relationship with the Igala people have their village walled, and traces of the wall could still be seen today. When an elderly man from this group was asked by excavators from the University the relationship between them and the Igalas, he said that the father of Igala and Igbo were sons of the same parents and that whenever anybody from Umukete went to Idah he normally would go to greet the Atta or the King. The greeting usually went as follows: “Ata abikibo bie takata bie Igala” which translates the lgbo saying that “Igbo is senior to Atta and Atta begot lgala. This is also reflected in the lgbo saying that: lgbo mulu Atta, mana Atta mulu lgala.” This oneness of lgbo and lgala is also reflected in lgbo adage which says “Alusi lgbo jebe mbana, obulu, alusi obodo lgala” which interprets that the spirits of lgbo-land in transit constitutes the spirit of lgalaland. Those who still doubt the common ancestry of lgbo and lgala could refresh their memory with this popular lgbo adage which says, “ Egbusia lgbo nine, lgbo afodukwa na lgala”, meaning even if all lgbos are wiped out of existence, the lgbos still remain in lgalaland. As with lgala, so is ldoma, who still have remnants of ancestors of ldoma community in Aguleri.

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Ekykool(m): 11:13pm On Nov 14, 2017
The war of succession from lduu Kingdom was initiated by the Oba of Benin known in lgbo historical literature as Agha lduu na Oba. (war of the lduu and Oba). It was a protracted war that touched most lgbo areas. It was intensified when the Benins acquired arms from the Portuguese. Then followed the war of secession of lgala initiated by the Atta. General Ogbe the son of Ajide attacked him at ldah, and was supported by General Udenze who controlled the Anam riverine area. Onoja Nwoboli left Aguleri and joined the lgalas because he was one of the remnants of the lgala descendants still at their Aguleri ancestral home.

Disturbances
General Onoja was stopped at Ogurugu from pushing Southward by General Enewelue who founded the Anyamelum area and part of Nsukka districts. But some remnant of lgala at Aguleri loyal to Atta created disturbances at their Aguleri ancestral home which made a section of Okpuno Nri, to move in a hysteria of haste to the present Imo State where they settled as Ngwas, a name reflecting the nature of the hurry (ngwa ngwa) with which they fled.
Okpuno Nris were made up of Okpu-enu, Okpuana and Aro. From the Okpuno dynasty came Disi Nri whose descendants founded Abacha named after their leader, Ikendu Abacheleku, in the present Idemili Local Government Area. There the principal village is Umudisi. Their ancestral home is Umudisi village at Ikenga Aguleri. Of the Okpuno elements comprising Okpuenu, Okpuana and Aro, the Okpuana people during the lgala disturbances left in a hurry hence their present settlement is known as Okpuala Ngwa. In remembrance of their ancestral structure and traditions during the Annual get-together of the Ngwas of Okpuala, they usually went on a pilgrimage to Okpuno Ngwa.

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Ekykool(m): 11:29pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eri had 6 children:

1st Son: Agulu (Aguleri)
2nd Son: Atta (father of Igala)
3rd Son: Oba (Edoziuno [Edo kingdom]. Offsprings are Benin and Onitsha)
4th Son: Igbo
5th Son: Menri (Father of Nri)
6th only Daughter: Adamgbo (Offsprings are Umulu [Umuleri, now Umueri] and many others)

Note: Many Igbo communities took their roots from this group.
Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Ekykool(m): 11:41pm On Nov 14, 2017
RedboneSmith:


Show me a picture of that paleo-nonsense from 1967. grin grin

Something that some prankster just arranged recently. Tah! Only fools are taken in by this. grin grin


And is that floor cement? Gad and his people were making German floors in 2000 kpiridim BC? grin


Seek for knowledge and you would find it. Don't close your heart to learning. Ask questions.

That very palace of Eri, Obu-Gad, was initially built with stones and clay soil. The inscription on the ground was shot with a camera and then removed before the ground was plastered with cement. It was installed in like manner to stick with the cement to the floor.

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by Ekykool(m): 11:50pm On Nov 14, 2017
Finally, to answer your questions about the star of David seen on Eze Eri's clothes and many other Igbos:


In 1917 the British discovered, about 500 feet below the soil on the palace grounds a solid bronze Star of David indicating the Igbo people may have migrated from the ancient city of David. To commemorate this event, Nigerian kobo coins were minted with a Star of David on it.

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 12:50am On Nov 15, 2017
Ekykool:
Finally, to answer your questions about the star of David seen on Eze Eri's clothes and many other Igbos:


In 1917 the British discovered, about 500 feet below the soil on the palace grounds a solid bronze Star of David indicating the Igbo people may have migrated from the ancient city of David. To commemorate this event, Nigerian kobo coins were minted with a Star of David on it.

LOL. It is amazing how some of you people believe things that have absolutely no proof.

1. What is the name of the lead archaeologist that made this discovery?

2. Where is the paper or group of papers published on this important discovery? Papers are always published about such discoveries. A Star of David found in what to the British of that age must have been a most unlikely site? That's huge - there should be publications; where are they?

3. Where is that solid bronze star today? Is it in a museum or a private collection? Does anyone have a picture?

4. How come all the references to the hexagram on British Colonial coins do not say anything about some bronze star that was dug up in Igboland?

5. Who told you this fib and why didn't you ask him these questions I am asking you now?

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Re: The Gad & Eri Lie And The Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 12:55am On Nov 15, 2017
Ekykool:



Seek for knowledge and you would find it. Don't close your heart to learning. Ask questions.

That very palace of Eri, Obu-Gad, was initially built with stones and clay soil. The inscription on the ground was shot with a camera and then removed before the ground was plastered with cement. It was installed in like manner to stick with the cement to the floor.

Cool story, bro. Can we see a pre-cement picture of the inscription?

Let me guess: you don't have it. Nobody has it.

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