RedboneSmith:


LOL. It is amazing how some of you people believe things that have absolutely no proof.

1. What is the name of the lead archaeologist that made this discovery?

2. Where is the paper or group of papers published on this important discovery? Papers are always published about such discoveries. A Star of David found in what to the British of that age must have been a most unlikely site? That's huge - there should be publications; where are they?

3. Where is that solid bronze star today? Is it in a museum or a private collection? Does anyone have a picture?

4. How come all the references to the hexagram on British Colonial coins do not say anything about some bronze star that was dug up in Igboland?

5. Who told you this fib and why didn't you ask him these questions I am asking you now?

All this questions are answered in many books on Amazon. But you can read more about the "Solomon seal" on Nigerian coins and flag here:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ng-gb.html

RedboneSmith:


Cool story, bro. Can we see a pre-cement picture of the inscription?

Let me guess: you don't have it. Nobody has it.

Nobody has it? lol. What would I stand to gain by coming up here to lie? Do you also think you can get artefacts easily on the internet?

Watch this video of Eze Nri's coronation at Obu-Gad Aguleri. You would see Obu-Gad as a house built with clay soil. There was no plaster on it then.

As for the picture of the inscription of the floor before it was plastered with cement, I can authoritatively tell you that the picture is in the palace.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvkZmwLyGns

More videos....
Documentation of the Igbo and Israelite connection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRGMXPzxS0I

Ekykool:
The war of succession from lduu Kingdom was initiated by the Oba of Benin known in lgbo historical literature as Agha lduu na Oba. (war of the lduu and Oba). It was a protracted war that touched most lgbo areas. It was intensified when the Benins acquired arms from the Portuguese. Then followed the war of secession of lgala initiated by the Atta. General Ogbe the son of Ajide attacked him at ldah, and was supported by General Udenze who controlled the Anam riverine area. Onoja Nwoboli left Aguleri and joined the lgalas because he was one of the remnants of the lgala descendants still at their Aguleri ancestral home.

Disturbances
General Onoja was stopped at Ogurugu from pushing Southward by General Enewelue who founded the Anyamelum area and part of Nsukka districts. But some remnant of lgala at Aguleri loyal to Atta created disturbances at their Aguleri ancestral home which made a section of Okpuno Nri, to move in a hysteria of haste to the present Imo State where they settled as Ngwas, a name reflecting the nature of the hurry (ngwa ngwa) with which they fled.
Okpuno Nris were made up of Okpu-enu, Okpuana and Aro. From the Okpuno dynasty came Disi Nri whose descendants founded Abacha named after their leader, Ikendu Abacheleku, in the present Idemili Local Government Area. There the principal village is Umudisi. Their ancestral home is Umudisi village at Ikenga Aguleri. Of the Okpuno elements comprising Okpuenu, Okpuana and Aro, the Okpuana people during the lgala disturbances left in a hurry hence their present settlement is known as Okpuala Ngwa. In remembrance of their ancestral structure and traditions during the Annual get-together of the Ngwas of Okpuala, they usually went on a pilgrimage to Okpuno Ngwa.

please stop confusing okpuno/okporlo with okpuala because they are two different things eg Okporlo/Okpuno is referring to a specific house while Okpuala is referring to a specific area/ land as abound of the earth goddess.

More...I only don't approve of the word "Igbo Jews". Igbo predates the word "Jews". Israelites or Hebrews are acceptable.

The colonial flag of Nigeria was adopted in 1914 following the amalgamation of Southern Nigeria and Northern Nigeria. It was first suggested by the first Governor-General of Nigeria , Sir Frederick Lugard as a symbol of the unification of Nigeria and because of the Seal of Solomon which was associated with the native Igbo Jews .

[2] The Star of David had already been in use in Nigeria during the British rule because of the Igbo Jews and indeed featured on coins of the British West African pound.

[3] This was confirmed in the 1917 discovery of a bronze Star of David attributed to the Igbo Jews in Aguleri.

[4][5] The crest on the flag was also used on the flag of the Governor-General of Nigeria.

[6]
The flag was not universally accepted. Some native Nigerians, including Fela Kuti , refused to salute the flag despite it being mandated in schools.

[2] In 1956, some Nigerian Muslims burned the Nigerian blue ensign at Mecca ,
Saudi Arabia , because of the Jewish Star of David on it.

[4][6] In 1959, prior to Nigerian Independence a competition to design a new flag was held with Taiwo Akinkunmi designing the new flag of Nigeria which replaced the Nigerian blue ensign in 1960.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Nigeria_(1914–1960)

Ekykool:
Eri had 6 children:

1st Son: Agulu (Aguleri)
2nd Son: Atta (father of Igala)
3rd Son: Oba (Edoziuno [Edo kingdom]. Offsprings are Benin and Onitsha)
4th Son: Igbo
5th Son: Menri (Father of Nri)
6th only Daughter: Adamgbo (Offsprings are Umulu [Umuleri, now Umueri] and many others)

Note: Many Igbo communities took their roots from this group.

Stop talking trash. Eri first Son is not Agulu. you people should stop manipulating and concocting stories that never existed just to make a failed point.

There is no where in history it was recorded that Eri had a first son called Agulu, and if you must know, Eri couldn't have named his first son Agulu because the Jews don't bear Agulu.

Ekykool:
Finally, to answer your questions about the star of David seen on Eze Eri's clothes and many other Igbos:


In 1917 the British discovered, about 500 feet below the soil on the palace grounds a solid bronze Star of David indicating the Igbo people may have migrated from the ancient city of David. To commemorate this event, Nigerian kobo coins were minted with a Star of David on it.

here is a picture of the coin

cc RedboneSmith

UmuEri:
Stop talking trash. Eri first Son is not Agulu. you people should stop manipulating and concocting stories that never existed just to make a failed point.

There is no where in history it was recorded that Eri had a first son called Agulu, and if you must know, Eri couldn't have named his first son Agulu because the Jews don't bear Agulu.

I won't dignify you the response you want because I know what you and your likes have been doing of recent in order to twist everything. Your people took Nnamdi Kanu to a strange place you named "real ObuGad" at Umueri. Your people also claimed that the entire Aguleri land was initially called Umueri. Not failing to mention the "Dabawu" stories.

I saw all your posts on Nairaland then. You know very well that you can't say such balderdash at Aguleri. You can only propagate such falsehood on social media.

Keep it up! Instead of joining hands with your brothers to maintain unity, you are dividing. Is this how we would live in Biafra? Even your present Igwe Umueri and elders can't deny the facts of Aguleri.

Ekykool:


I won't give you the response you want because I know what you and your likes have been doing of recent in order to twist everything. Your people took Nnamdi Kanu to a strange place you named "real ObuGad" at Umueri. Your people also claimed that the entire Aguleri land was initially called Umueri. Not failing to mention the "Dabawu" stories.

I saw all your posts on Nairaland then. You know very well that you can't say such balderdash at Aguleri. You can only propagate such falsehood on social media.

Keep it up! Instead of joining hands with your brothers to maintain unity, you are dividing. Is this how we would live in Biafra? Even your present Igwe Umueri and elders can't deny the facts of Aguleri.

Please post more books and articles for the education of our Nairaland confusionists

zenmaster:

Please post more books and articles for the education of our Nairaland confusionists

Brother, we can't always spoonfeed them. People choose to believe whatever they want to believe. Many would choose light, while others go for darkness.

The bad news for the confusionists is that the origin of Igbos is gaining more interest. More scholars are into it as we speak. Like I said earlier, no man can stop the truth from prevailing.

Ekykool:


I won't dignify you the response you want because I know what you and your likes have been doing of recent in order to twist everything. Your people took Nnamdi Kanu to a strange place you named "real ObuGad" at Umueri. Your people also claimed that the entire Aguleri land was initially called Umueri. Not failing to mention the "Dabawu" stories.

I saw all your posts on Nairaland then. You know very well that you can't say such balderdash at Aguleri. You can only propagate such falsehood on social media.

Keep it up! Instead of joining hands with your brothers to maintain unity, you are dividing. Is this how we would live in Biafra? Even your present Igwe Umueri and elders can't deny the facts of Aguleri.

You can not sustain falsehood for a long time. @first bolden is a testament to what we have been saying. Your people will never sit down to debate their claim on Eri, instead they resort to violence and insults.

On the 15th day of July 2017, a group of researchers came from Unuiversity of Nigeria and your Aguleri people where invited to sit down with Umueri people to debate their claim but they refused.

Stop propagating falsehood. You claim Eri came to Aguleri to build an Obu, whereas Eri never came to Africa talk less of Gad. Pls stop this falsehood.

And if you must know, Eri had long died and the children of Israel had long left Egypt before migrating to Africa which was led by the Levi tribe of Gads Clan.

I challenge you for a debate if you trust your claim.
Btw, @second bolden, did I hear you say maintain Unity? sorry bro, I can not join in the maintenance of unity based on falsehood. This is exactly what Biafrans and Nnamdi Kanu is fighting against.

UmuEri:


You can not sustain falsehood for a long time. @first bolden is a testament to what we have been saying. Your people will never sit down to debate their claim on Eri, instead they resort to violence and insults.

On the 15th day of July 2017, a group of researchers came from Unuiversity of Nigeria and your Aguleri people where invited to sit down with Umueri people to debate their claim but they refused.

Stop propagating falsehood. You claim Eri came to Aguleri to build an Obu, whereas Eri never came to Africa talk less of Gad. Pls stop this falsehood.

And if you must know, Eri had long died and the children of Israel had long left Egypt before migrating to Africa which was led by the Levi tribe of Gads Clan.

I challenge you for a debate if you trust your claim.
Btw, @second bolden, did I hear you say maintain Unity? sorry bro, I can not join in the maintenance of unity based on falsehood. This is exactly what Biafrans and Nnamdi Kanu is fighting against.

I don't need to defend any claim. I deal with well researched facts. I've long been in this game to know how it is played. The more you make such claims like the one you wrote above, the more intelligent people become interested and seek to know the truth. You're helping the cause. Yet again I say, keep it up!

On that very day, the Nnamdi Kanu you revere so much said it to your faces that Obu-Gad Aguleri is your ancestral home. This is after you and your crew took him to Dabawu and the "real ObuGad" at Umueri. Very funny!

Ekykool:
On that very day, the Nnamdi Kanu you revere so much said it to your faces that Obu-Gad Aguleri is your ancestral home. This is after you and your crew took him to Dabawu and the "real ObuGad" at Umueri. Very funny!

You're very funny. When did Nnamdi Kanu say such? keep lying!

But I advice you to stop deceiving people. There is nothing like Obu Gad.


If you insist that Eri built an Obu in Aguleri called ObuGad, my question then is, at what point exactly did Eri left Israel, and what year/time did he arrive Aguleri?

Pls be specific?

secondly, if you insist that Eri begot a son he named Agulu, what is the meaning of Agulu? is it a Jewish name or Arabic?

I am waiting for you bro

UmuEri:

You're very funny. When did Nnamdi Kanu say such? keep lying!

But I advice you to stop deceiving people. There is nothing like Obu Gad.


If you insist that Eri built an Obu in Aguleri called ObuGad, my question then is, at what point exactly did Eri left Israel, and what year/time did he arrive Aguleri?

Pls be specific?

secondly, if you insist that Eri begot a son he named Agulu, what is the meaning of Agulu? is it a Jewish name or Arabic?

Are you for real or you just want to feign ignorance of Nnamdi Kanu's statement at Obu-Gad? If it is the former then it is obvious you have been far away Anambra state propagating falsehood all over Nairaland. I wont spoonfeed you brother! Ask any of your kin that escorted Nnamdi Kanu to Obu-Gad to tell you what he said in the king's palace with a microphone. The topics he touched on was on Apga as a party, Willie Obiano, his mandate for Biafra and the call for every Igbo man to come back to their ancestral home Obu-Gad. I have video clips here but I won't bother sharing with you. You are on a mission, therefore the video would be a setback to your propaganda.

I won't delve into the argument of Agulu, Israel and all that. Professors and historians have dealt with that. I would choose to share articles on that with one I feel that needs it.

Ekykool:


Are you for real or you just want to feign ignorance of Nnamdi Kanu's statement at Obu-Gad? If it is the former then it is obvious you have been far away Anambra state propagating falsehood all over Nairaland. I wont spoonfeed you brother! Ask any of your kin that escorted Nnamdi Kanu to Obu-Gad to tell you what he said in the king's palace with a microphone. The topics he touched on was on Apga as a party, Willie Obiano, his mandate for Biafra and the call for every Igbo man to come back to their ancestral home Obu-Gad. I have video clips here but I won't bother sharing with you. You are on a mission, therefore the video would be a setback to your propaganda.

I won't delve into the argument of Agulu, Israel and all that. Professors and historians have dealt with that. I would choose to share articles on that with one I feel that needs it.

Stop being smart by half, just answer the question.
what year did Eri left Israel and when did he arrive Aguleri?

Secondly, if you say the name of His first son is Agulu, then what is the meaning of Agulu? is it an Igbo name or a Jewish name?

Ekykool:


Are you for real or you just want to feign ignorance of Nnamdi Kanu's statement at Obu-Gad? If it is the former then it is obvious you have been far away Anambra state propagating falsehood all over Nairaland. I wont spoonfeed you brother! Ask any of your kin that escorted Nnamdi Kanu to Obu-Gad to tell you what he said in the king's palace with a microphone. The topics he touched on was on Apga as a party, Willie Obiano, his mandate for Biafra and the call for every Igbo man to come back to their ancestral home Obu-Gad. I have video clips here but I won't bother sharing with you. You are on a mission, therefore the video would be a setback to your propaganda.

I won't delve into the argument of Agulu, Israel and all that. Professors and historians have dealt with that. I would choose to share articles on that with one I feel that needs it.

It would have been Okay if you can answer the question? let us be the judge

Ekykool:


Are you for real or you just want to feign ignorance of Nnamdi Kanu's statement at Obu-Gad? If it is the former then it is obvious you have been far away Anambra state propagating falsehood all over Nairaland. I wont spoonfeed you brother! Ask any of your kin that escorted Nnamdi Kanu to Obu-Gad to tell you what he said in the king's palace with a microphone. The topics he touched on was on Apga as a party, Willie Obiano, his mandate for Biafra and the call for every Igbo man to come back to their ancestral home Obu-Gad. I have video clips here but I won't bother sharing with you. You are on a mission, therefore the video would be a setback to your propaganda.

I won't delve into the argument of Agulu, Israel and all that. Professors and historians have dealt with that. I would choose to share articles on that with one I feel that needs it.

It would have been Okay if you can answer the question. Let us be the judge

onexile:
It would have been Okay if you can answer the question? let us be the judge

Brother, I speak on things that I have personally confirmed. I choose to leave the account of what went on at Egypt or Israel. One important thing you should know is that language was corrupted as generations went by. The Hebrew being spoken now is not the same with the ancient Hebrew language or writing. For instance, the inscription on the floor of Obu-Gad is an ancient Hebrew writing believed to be written by Eri.

So for one to drag me to the argument of Agulu not being a Hebrew word looks unintelligent.

I have different articles on Eri's movement with Arodi and Areli to Omambala. Umueri's story is laughable.

I think I have contributed enough to this thread. I've been on Nairaland long enough to understand the patterns of argument. A quick search on the search bar would lead you to so many threads on this same topic. I was advised by elders not to wash our linens in public. It is for this same reason many video clips and documents are left out of public domain. The elders said no matter our different opinions, all Igbos are one, including the Igalas.

Ekykool:


Brother, I speak on things that I have personally confirmed. I choose to leave the account of what went on at Egypt or Israel. One important thing you should know is that language was corrupted as generations went by. The Hebrew being spoken now is not the same with the ancient Hebrew language or writing. For instance, the inscription on the floor of Obu-Gad is an ancient Hebrew writing believed to be written by Eri.

So for one to drag me to the argument of Agulu not being a Hebrew word looks unintelligent.

I have different articles on Eri's movement with Arodi and Areli to Omambala. Umueri's story is laughable.

You can lie for Africa sha. But thank God you said "believed to be written by Eri". The truth is, Eri never wrote that nonsense and i have told you over and over again, that Eri never came to Africa because he had long died before the persecution of Israelites started. It was Idigo that fraudulently wrote those jargons on the floor to decieve people.

By the way, hope you saw the result of the DNA test your Aguleri people hastily rush to do in other to prove their Jewish ancestry? this was after my argument with your brother Dr. Chibuzor Udelaor, a lecturer in Nwafor Orizu College of Education Nsugbe. He too donated blood and saliver for the rest and guess what?

The result was purely negative as they were no element of trace to Jews discovered in the DNA test. sorry bro, your lies has been bursted several.

Ekykool:
I think I have contributed enough to this thread. I've been on Nairaland long enough to understand the patterns of argument. A quick search on the search bar would lead you to so many threads on this same topic. I was advised by elders not to wash our linens in public. It is for this same reason many video clips and documents are left out of public domain. The elders said no matter our different opinions, all Igbos are one, including the Igalas.

anybody with access to data can make a video and post online. That dosent authenticate falsehood. why are you finding it so difficult to answer a simple question on when Eri left Israel and his arrival in Aguleri?

There's a lot of igbo culture being promoted within the igbo-British community. Have a look at the channel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRZWXvT7Xd4&index=8&list=PL1UutY7_uGmtEGSsfb34VMHIHePjy67xV

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zenmaster:

here is a picture of the coin

cc RedboneSmith

Who hasn't seen this coin? Why are you showing me what I have known and seen all my life? Why can't you show me what I asked for --- the solid bronze Star that the British purportedly dug up in 1917.

This coin was used in all British colonies in West Africa, from Gambia to Ghana to Sierra Leone and then Nigeria. What is your proof that the hexagram there had anything to do with a discovery made in Igboland?

RedboneSmith:


Who hasn't seen this coin? Why are you showing me what I have known and seen all my life? Why can't you show me what I asked for --- the solid bronze Star that the British purportedly dug up in 1917.

This coin was used in all British colonies in West Africa, from Gambia to Ghana to Sierra Leone and then Nigeria. What is your proof that the hexagram there had anything to do with a discovery made in Igboland?

Ignoring the facts does not make the facts go away

RedboneSmith:


Flipping troll!

Can't prove anything so you gonna just troll abi. Ngwanu.

Eze Idigo of Aguleri in the 1890s. No Star of David in sight. Just his okpensi lying about.

^^^^^^^
Heh...! ancestor from the Omambala
region...

Ekykool:
But some remnant of lgala at Aguleri loyal to Atta created disturbances at their Aguleri ancestral home which made a section of Okpuno Nri, to move in a hysteria of haste to the present Imo State where they settled as Ngwas, a name reflecting the nature of the hurry (ngwa ngwa) with which they fled.
Okpuno Nris were made up of Okpu-enu, Okpuana and Aro. From the Okpuno dynasty came Disi Nri whose descendants founded Abacha named after their leader, Ikendu Abacheleku, in the present Idemili Local Government Area. There the principal village is Umudisi. Their ancestral home is Umudisi village at Ikenga Aguleri. Of the Okpuno elements comprising Okpuenu, Okpuana and Aro, the Okpuana people during the lgala disturbances left in a hurry hence their present settlement is known as Okpuala Ngwa. In remembrance of their ancestral structure and traditions during the Annual get-together of the Ngwas of Okpuala, they usually went on a pilgrimage to Okpuno Ngwa.

Ngwa oral tradition does not recognize Nri. That is the first mistake, and claiming such is a boldface lie. The second mistake is the statement that the Ngwa ethnonym is coined from "ngwa ngwa". It was an assumption made by the European anthropologist that was then spread by Igbo historians who knew no better. The fact that this quote uses those two things (one a bold lie; the other an assumption) means that whoever wrote it had zero idea of what they were talking about.

ChinenyeN:


Ngwa oral tradition does not recognize Nri. That is the first mistake, and claiming such is a boldface lie. The second mistake is the statement that the Ngwa ethnonym is coined from "ngwa ngwa". It was an assumption made by the European anthropologist that was then spread by Igbo historians who knew no better. The fact that this quote uses those two things (one a bold lie; the other an assumption) means that whoever wrote it had zero idea of what they were talking about.

Does the word IGBO have any meaning(s) in Ngwa language/dialect (not sure whether Ngwa is a dialect/language)

0monnak0da:

Does the word IGBO have any meaning(s) in Ngwa language/dialect (not sure whether Ngwa is a dialect/language)

I have not encountered an instance of anyone using "Igbo" as a word in Ngwa, other than to refer to "Igbo" people. The closest I have hear is "ugbo" (farm), but that is considered a borrowed word, as we use 'ubi' instead.

There are people here who will disagree with me, but I believe there is practically no inherent distinction between a language and dialect. The distinction comes from ethnic, social, and political differences and not really from language itself. I personally call it a language for my own reasons, and because our word for language is how we explain it in Ngwa.

ChinenyeN:


I have not encountered an instance of anyone using "Igbo" as a word in Ngwa, other than to refer to "Igbo" people. The closest I have hear is "ugbo" (farm), but that is considered a borrowed word, as we use 'ubi' instead.

There are people here who will disagree with me, but I believe there is practically no inherent distinction between a language and dialect. The distinction comes from ethnic, social, and political differences and not really from language itself. I personally call it a language for my own reasons, and because our word for language is how we explain it in Ngwa.

Thank You
Google cites Igbo as meaning bush or vomit and some on Nairaland claim it means people do you agree?
I suppose the word bush may mean woods or forest or other uncultivated land or does it specifically mean farm in the context of cultivated farmland

Also in terms of pronunciation does the gb sound in ugbo sound same as in Igbo

We used Nigerian to refer to Nigerian People but the word has a presumed etymology is there such an etymology for Igbo.

The issue of language or dialect has interesting applications e.g what is spoken by Ngwa people is it Ngwa languge or Igbo language. Now I am not trying to be divisive but exploring a hypothesis which you can kindly express an opinion on.
Across the area that we today know as Igbo has the identity Igbo always been ubiquitous or have people sel identified ( language and person) as Ngwa,Aro, Afikpo,Ohuhu etc