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| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by TheKingIsHere: 8:41pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Gotze1:Oh, it is no longer "Eko is a Yoruba word and not bini?" ![]() One thing that is sure is that no matter how anyone try to twist facts, Lagos state belongs to the Benin Kingdom. Oba of Lagos pays homage to the oba of Benin
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| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 8:41pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Victorian Lagos: the Slave Economy and Inversion of Oshodi Tapa, cont'd: |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Leez(m): 8:42pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
ProWalker:
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| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by PabloAfricanus(m): 8:42pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
In Esale Eko we have the Eyo festival which is organized in the hierarchical structure and organization of the ancient Esan Edo army that once occupied Lagos Island. Even the name Eyo comes from Eyo-Okulo, which is the name of the Esan Edo army. Yes, the popular Lagos cultural and international tourist attraction, Eyo masquerade festival has an Esan Edo origin. Eyo is a short form of Eyo – Okulo. Okulo means war. Eyo means those who go to war. ESAN EDO soldiers are called EYO-OKULO. That explains why an Eyo masquerade carries a STICK REPRESENTING HIS INSTRUMENT OF WAR. Eyo masquerades are organized in the formation, hierarchy and structure of the ancient Esan Edo army that was stationed in Esale Eko (Camp of the Esans). The Eyo ceremony involves spiritual cleansing, spiritual fortification (Owo-egbe/Owegbe/ Iwo-egbe ), spiritual initiation, military parade, show of spiritual and military strength, honoring of fallen military heroes et al. The EYO ceremony was an ancient ESAN EDO MILITARY CEREMONY that was in vogue back in the era of the EDO EMPIRE. That the people of Lagos Island inherited the Eyo ceremony from their ancestors is a great and incontestable proof that Esale Eko people are descendants of ancient Esan Edo soldiers that occupied Lagos Island. Chief Anthony Enahoro was the last honorary Okalo Okulo (Okakulo of Edo land). That means the number one warrior (traditional Defense Minister) of Edo land. Two most remarkable things about the Eko Eyo festival is that the name Eyo from Eyo-Okulo and the structure, hierarchy and mass group organization of the Eyo festival shouts Esan Edo very loudly. The above confirms that Eko indigenes are actually descendants of Esan Edo soldiers. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Leez(m): 8:43pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
TheKingIsHere:prowalker wee not like dis ![]() |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Leez(m): 8:44pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
ProWalker:says d headslammer ![]() |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 8:45pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
TheKingIsHere:So did I say anything different from what you said? |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by PabloAfricanus(m): 8:46pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
I think the author is overdoing the linguistics with all that similarity and matching ![]() Onikoyi is an Oyo title and does not mean a camp of thieves But his story sounds interesting and contains historical nuggest none the less.. Agbele and Egure in the excerpt are evidently corrupted versions of EGBELE and EGUARE. Egbele is in Uromi. Egbele is the first and most senior village in Uromi. Eguare is the Palacde or the Quarters where the Palace of the King is located. The presence of Egbele is an indication that UROMI soldiers and probably Uromi soldiers, specifically from ancient Egbele Uromi were located by Emperor Orhogbua to hold forte in Ikorodu. EGUARE indicates that an Edo indigene and probably an Esan Edo based on the version of EGUARE in contra-distinction to IGUA was appointed King by Emperor Orhogbua over Ikorodu. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by PabloAfricanus(m): 8:47pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
At this juncture it is necessary for us to do a reconnaissance of the factors that made the Esans generally and Uromi specifically fraternal partners in the Edo imperial military and economic paraphernalia. Monarchy was instituted in Esanland in the fifteenth century by Oba Ewuare of Benin. From the colonial British Intelligence Report on the Esans we have the following:“The name Ishan is a corruption of a Benin word ESAN FUA meaning those who 'Jumped or fled". The word "Esan" was used to describe the inhabitants of the district now forming Ishan during the reign of Oba Ewuare of Benin. Before this period the large groups such as Irrua, Uromi, Ekpoma and Ubiaja were known by their individual names and there was no common name. Oba Ewuare, enraged by the sudden death of his two sons supposedly brought about by the wicked machinations of his brother, the Edaiken, enacted very obnoxious laws forbidding: |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by baby124: 8:48pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
[quote author=PabloAfricanus post=62531949][/quote]Complete rubbish. You better go for psychiatric test after typing this nonsense. Lol!!!! First, go and find out how many Oba's and Baale's are in ikorodu and go and search which one is Lisa. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Ezigbonmadu: 8:48pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
TheKingIsHere:I wonder how you passed basic O-Level if comprehension is this tough for you. No where in any of the references you provided was it mentioned that Èkó is a Bini word meaning war camp. Why are you this stupid? Also, and more importantly, both references affirm that the Aworis are the indigenous people of Èkó. So why are you losing sleep? |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by TheKingIsHere: 8:48pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Ezigbonmadu:You are neither bini. However, the Lagos state government stated on its official website saying that the oba orogba called it Eko meaning war camp. Is war camp Eko in Yoruba? Shior. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 8:51pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
baby124:Don't mind him. The history of Lagos as well as the parts of Lagos island that formed Isale-Eko or the old Lagos, is rather well-documented, both by the colonial masters, missionaries, the Bini palace and the Lagos merchants of yore. He thinks that by cutting and pasting articles (some of whose contents even contradict his position), people will think of him as some kind of intellectual. Sorry, it hasn't worked! ![]() |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by TheKingIsHere: 8:51pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Ezigbonmadu:What is war camp in Yoruba? You are not only confused but also pained. The truth is bitter. Pele https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos https://lagosstate.gov.ng/about-lagos/
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| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by baby124: 8:51pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
[quote author=PabloAfricanus post=62532058][/quote]Hahahaha. Aromire is now Esan? Uromi? Hahahahaha. What a comedian. You need help if you typed this nonsense. The day when you will meet your doom is when you actually believe this enough to come and act on it in real life. You better put an end to your delusion. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Ezigbonmadu: 8:51pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
TheKingIsHere:Can we have a reference to this alternative fact? |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by PabloAfricanus(m): 8:51pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
baby124:Typical Nigerian yoot ![]() Haba! Attack the message and not the messenger nau ![]() You actually need history lessons. Here is some for you: The kingmakers in Ikorodu are made up of Lisa, Odofin, Solomade, Oponua, Apena, Oluwo, Losi and Aro. These high chiefs are also in charge of traditional rites in the land. But Vanguard Features, VF, gathered that Aro and Losi also joined their ancestors after the demise of Oba Oyefusi, n 1892 Christianity made an advent into Ikorodu. Late chief Aina Odukanmade (the 1st Mosene) an Iwarefa and one of the most popular and wealthy chiefs with four others welcomed the early missionaries and hoisted the British flag on the soil of Ikorodu. With the backing of the Oloja of Ikorodu, Aina Odubote, Balogun Jaiyesimi and Odukanmade the Lisa of Ikorodu, Christianity started on a good footing. The first church in Ikorodu was the C.M.S. Church, Obun Ale. When the building finally gave way to the evening market, it resurrected on its present location at Ijomu. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by baby124: 8:54pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
PabloAfricanus:But you said the Lisa is an Oba? He is a king maker There is also a title of Lisa in Ogun state. Is he also Olisa or whatever rubbish you typed there? Are you crazy or what? This Lisa, Odofin and ko are family names in Ikorodu. They are not in any way related to Bini. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by TheKingIsHere: 8:55pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Ezigbonmadu:The reference has been given to you several times. ![]()
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| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Ezigbonmadu: 8:56pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
TheKingIsHere:How does the bolded apply here? A war camp to the Bini was a peaceful home of the Awori. How does the meaning of war camp in Yoruba even come to this discussion? Why am I even responding to people with such a low IQ? |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by TheKingIsHere: 8:59pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Ezigbonmadu:Look at the image again and see where it stated that Eko is a word used by the bini people. No amount of twisting can change this fact. Chia, e pain am.
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| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by PabloAfricanus(m): 8:59pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
laudate:Cutting and pasting articles I did not author does not count as references before a cheerleader ![]() Should I quote Julius Caesar or Mansa Musa then? So in addition to being a pathetic cheerleader, you are also ignorant and daft ![]() Ok seems I can give you some lessons there, don't take my word for it, shebi you are the one speaking for the Edos right? Here is your chance to take a stand and do a full spin for the Edos like the cheerleader you are ![]() Hear it from the Iyase of Edo kingdom, Chief Sam Igbe https://ihuanedo.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-origin-of-eko-lagos OGBAKHA EDO |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by PabloAfricanus(m): 9:02pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
baby124:Cmon stop it with the insults and discuss the topic if you can. I did not author those articles. I am only here to learn and discuss. If you can't deal with other's opinions and historical facts then I suggest you go play somewhere else. I do not remember saying the Lisa was an Oba anywhere. Do you? Meanwhile, you said this baby124:Are you sure you are from Lagos as you claim? |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Ezigbonmadu: 9:03pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
TheKingIsHere:That rubbish link says NOTHING about your bold claim. TheKingIsHere:To reiterate, you've not provided any link to substantiate your claim |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Gotze1: 9:06pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
odigbosky:Can you hear yourself, so I should come all the way from my place just cos I want to insult oba or to prove I am a man to a nonentity like you. Who are you and your oba. I only fear God but not a mere human that dies and rust. Your oba is a mere human that was born with sperm just like you. If you like you can worship him, it is your business. I am not in the world to prove to anyone that I am a man, but if the trouble comes, then I will prove you who I am. You and your oba or whatever can go to hell. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by ib0221: 9:07pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
[quote author=PabloAfricanus post=62532058][/quote]Pabloafricanus, You are really a revisionist. So, ikeja, ikoyi (ikoyi eso adikanran loju ogun, apeda olosa ti won pe lologun.) and the likes are corrupted Edo words. Please complete the work oo- I want to know the Edo origin of osa, obun eko, Agege, Ipaja, Abeokuta, even Oyo and Ife. My good teacher, willing student wants to learn. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 9:08pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
PabloAfricanus:Yes, your articles are contradictory. Your pseudo-intellectual antics have been noticed, but sorry, they have failed as usual. ![]() You just cut and pasted this piece of fairytale: Among the historical names in Lagos that shouts EDO very loudly as shall be explained in more details soon hereunder, are Akiolu, Oyekan, Tinubu, Opebi, Okouromun, Esan, Akiode, Ojomon, Ojuelegba, Eyo (as in Eyo Masquerade), Onigbongbo, Igbobi, Ikeja, Ogba, Ipodo (Ikeja), Iduntafa, Idumota, Idumagbo, Agidingbi, Alausa, Idungaran, Iga Idungaran, Ashogbon, Oshodi, Odibo, Idimu, Idiroko, Araba (As in Chief Araba of Lagos), Idi Araba. These names, though often time relics of the yorubanized and or Islamized versions of the original Esan or Bini Edo names, yet help to tell the forgotten story of the birth era of modern Lagos.Akiolu, Oyekan, Tinubu, Opebi, Okouromun, Esan, Akiode, Ojuelegba, Onigbongbo, Igbobi, Ikeja, Ogba, Ipodo etc., are pure Yoruba words with Yoruba meanings. Ask any of the Yoruba people on this thread, to translate each word for you. There is nothing Edo about them! Yet, you just cut and pasted it, as if it was the gospel truth! It is like the word 'Ike' in Igbo. Ike can mean either bottom or strength, depending on the intonation that you give to it. Meanwhile, Ike in Yoruba means 'plastic.' Now, did the Igbo borrow this word from the Yoruba, or does it mean that Igbo is an offshoot of Yoruba language? Or did the Yoruba colonise the Igbo, and adulterate the Igbo language? ![]() Guy, you are only good for comic relief, I swear! ![]() |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by TheKingIsHere: 9:09pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Ezigbonmadu:Look at this bloody liar. All the links I provided, am sure you were blind to see the truth. That's why i made a screenshot. Bloody liars **spits** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos
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| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by baby124: 9:09pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
PabloAfricanus:Again, there is nothing like Lisa of Ikorodu. That is a family name and title. Just like Odofin means Chief Justice. Those names eventually became family names. There is a Lisa who is an Oba in Ogun state. You don't even know what you are saying and it clearly shows. That your article is heavily false and desperate. How do you jump from Olisa to Lisa when such titles existed before anyone even knew the Binis existed. Stop posting crazy articles here and do your research. There is no Lisa of Ikorodu Obaship. You wrongly stated that the Lisa was an Oba which is very false. You are asking me if I am a Lagosian. Yet you post articles by mad men who don't have the balls to come out and claim lagos but write articles which are largely untrue just to wrongly inflate the true stories of the land. Do you think we are fools? We know our history very very well. You will have to try harder to make your wishes come true. |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by Ezigbonmadu: 9:11pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
TheKingIsHere:And by deduction Èkó means war camp? How logical! See how you reason and tell me what fallacy that is: Èkó is a word used by Bini, Bini warriors invaded Èkó, Èkó means war camp. How more idiotic can you get? |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by PabloAfricanus(m): 9:12pm On Nov 19, 2017*. Modified: 9:28pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
baby124:It appears you need more history lessons than I do ![]() Lemme paraphrase it for you so you can make sense of the new info. http://www.ayayogong.com.ng/2017/01/what-you-dont-know-about-history-of.html This post was written by: Com. Folarin Adegboyega awalThe bolded is where the info you need is, read up and respond intelligently next time. The history of Ikorodu is an history of people whose ancestors, according to available history, descended from the Remo stock of Yoruba tribe who came settle on a plateau and named it Ikorodu, a shortened word from-Oko Odu-which literally means Odu farm. Odu now in extinct vegetables specie used for cloth dying, grew luxuriantly on this plateau, hence the early settlers for want of a better name, found it convenient to name their new found settlement after this abundant vegetable.of |
| Re: Bini Are Original Owners Of Lagos, Not Yoruba – Layi Ajayi-Bembe by laudate: 9:12pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
baby124:Hehehe.... just hold on, he will soon come back to cut-and-paste another long, boring epistle, he lifted from one website somewhere. Half of the things he pasted clearly contradict works of academic scholars that have studied the history of Lagos, and its' environs. |
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The history of Lagos as well as the parts of Lagos island that formed Isale-Eko or the old Lagos, is rather well-documented, both by the colonial masters, missionaries, the Bini palace and the Lagos merchants of yore. He thinks that by cutting and pasting articles (some of whose contents even contradict his position), people will think of him as some kind of intellectual. Sorry, it hasn't worked! 
There is also a title of Lisa in Ogun state. Is he also Olisa or whatever rubbish you typed there? Are you crazy or what? This Lisa, Odofin and ko are family names in Ikorodu. They are not in any way related to Bini.
Yet, you just cut and pasted it, as if it was the gospel truth! It is like the word 'Ike' in Igbo. Ike can mean either bottom or strength, depending on the intonation that you give to it. Meanwhile, Ike in Yoruba means 'plastic.' Now, did the Igbo borrow this word from the Yoruba, or does it mean that Igbo is an offshoot of Yoruba language? Or did the Yoruba colonise the Igbo, and adulterate the Igbo language?