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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by ihatesycophant(m): 10:19am On Nov 25, 2017
mercyp001:

U will receive d greatest shock of ur life comes 2019. Hope u knw dat 2019 is between two Northerners,unlike 2015 when d hatred for GEJ and d power must return back to the North made PDP lost d election. So dis time around,votes frm d North will b divided. Though u may not understand what i am saying if u are a novice in politics. Let me remind u dat Atiku has left APC and his folowers will follow him. Do not b deceived with d Statement dat Atiku is not a threat to dem, APC knows dat it is a serious threat. Remember dat PDP said the same when Saraki and Co decamped to APC,again if u are not a novice in Politics,u will know dat those dat decamped from PDP to APC then, contributed so much to d PDP lost. Conclusively,u will see d shocking events dat will start following d exist of Atiku.
The rate at which you guys deceive yourselves is alarming. I'm asking which of his followers will follow him. The only threat Atiku will pose is if and if Buhari will not contest and it would be another figure but I pray it's not Kwankwaso. Because as at today political permutation, Kwankwaso has more followers than Atiku. You guys always forgot to put to consideration that people of the North, I mean ordinary voters will always prefer Buhari to any other one because they believe he will always safeguard their interests than any other person. Even those following him would vote Buhari in presidency and vote for his (Atiku) candidate in others. Buhari is like a mini-god within the voting class in the North and they form a cultlike assembly when election comes as shown by records since 2003, even when they contested together in the same year.
They know he's just a bad market for the north when it comes to protecting interests. He may have inroad in the South East and some in South South but other regions it would be heavy burden. Also put in mind that the North don't always base their support on competency but interest. It's only South that always think of competency before interests but not North.
Well, there is no doubt that he has bigger wall chest to throw around but Northern voters don't always look at that but only interest base. If it were Kwankwaso that defected, he would have given Buhari camp a sleepless night because North still love him like Buhari to some extent but not Atiku. They see Atiku as a sell out.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by akon4u: 10:19am On Nov 25, 2017
Has Atiku joined
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Walelavender(m): 10:20am On Nov 25, 2017
It's a no brainer Atiku can never defeat PMB in any election. Despite the lacklustre performance of Buhari,his followers predominantly from the North are not gonna give it to Atiku. If you are familiar with the political climate in nothern Nigeria,you will know that cult-like followership of PMB hasn't changed.

It's so unfortunate that we are being presented with ghastly incompetent folks as candidates for 2019. Only an independent candidacy can solve this quagmire.
Let the house pas this bill and let us test the waters

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by romeorailss: 10:24am On Nov 25, 2017
Bede2u:
To think u convinced me to vote Buhari in 2015 still dey shame me.
You guys are quick to note Buhari got 12 million votes in 2003. Wasnt results allocated then? The truth is rig or not, eletions in Nigeria has always reflected peoples wishes. In 2007 the same Buhari lost north which he won in 2003 to another northerner. Which shows u that 'Buharist' are not more than 7 million in the north out of a voting strenght of up to 13 million up north. If Atiku can get 5 million vote in north and buhari gets 8 million; in sw buhari get 2.5million and atiku get 2million (dont forget SW gave Atiku 2 million in 2007). If Atiku gets 2 million votes in SE and Buhari get 700k; if Atiku gets 3.5 million votes in ss and buhari get 1million; lets calculate-- Atiku 12.5 million votes
Buhari 12.2 milliion votes

Atiku wins. This is a fair calculation

See as this wan dey calculate with figures like say na him household be the whole Nigeria wey dey vote. People never cease to amaze me, I tell u. grin

A man wakes up on a Saturday morning and starts counting votes of 2019 down and doing the figures, then came to conclusion that a certain candidate has won cheesy grin

Nairaland is indeed filled with character grin

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by maximilano: 10:33am On Nov 25, 2017
Atiku doesn't have a political stronghold, he always wants to ride on an already built platform. Being rich alone cannot win presidential elections, most of his supporters are supporting him because of what they are getting from him not because they are die hard supporters. Unlike buharis Northern supporters who don't need him to give them dollars before they vote him. I think CPC strengthened his political might, Atiku should establish his own party and build from the scratch if he wants to be politically relevant. If PDP fields him in 2019, they've lost before going to the polls. The rejection of APC is not a criteria that Nigerians want PDP back. Smart politicians would take this opportunity to make a statement.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Nowenuse: 10:38am On Nov 25, 2017
SillyMods:

If Atiku picks a VP from SE, it means PMB/VPYO is clearing 90% of SW votes.

Game over then.

Atiku will divide the north, take it or leave it. I am from the north-central and I will likely vote Atiku instead of PMB.
Atiku will get massive voters in the North-central and North-east. And he will win the South-east and South-south

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Bede2u(m): 10:44am On Nov 25, 2017
romeorailss:


See as this wan dey calculate with figures like say na him household be the whole Nigeria wey dey vote. People never cease to amaze me, I tell u. grin

A man wakes up on a Saturday morning and starts counting votes of 2019 down and doing the figures, then came to conclusion that a certain candidate has won cheesy grin

Nairaland is indeed filled with character grin
Kid if u are too young to know what forecast means, leave sports betting and watch cnn more often.
If per chance Buhari won in my forcast, it wont seem stupid to you. undecided

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by maisauki: 10:45am On Nov 25, 2017
Automatic or manual, PDP will never produce president again in ds country and atiku will always be trying, he wont become d president insha Allah(God willing)
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Nowenuse: 10:47am On Nov 25, 2017
ihatesycophant:

The rate at which you guys deceive yourselves is alarming. I'm asking which of his followers will follow him. The only threat Atiku will pose is if and if Buhari will not contest and it would be another figure but I pray it's not Kwankwaso. Because as at today political permutation, Kwankwaso has more followers than Atiku. You guys always forgot to put to consideration that people of the North, I mean ordinary voters will always prefer Buhari to any other one because they believe he will always safeguard their interests than any other person. Even those following him would vote Buhari in presidency and vote for his (Atiku) candidate in others. Buhari is like a mini-god within the voting class in the North and they form a cultlike assembly when election comes as shown by records since 2003, even when they contested together in the same year.
They know he's just a bad market for the north when it comes to protecting interests. He may have inroad in the South East and some in South South but other regions it would be heavy burden. Also put in mind that the North don't always base their support on competency but interest. It's only South that always think of competency before interests but not North.
Well, there is no doubt that he has bigger wall chest to throw around but Northern voters don't always look at that but only interest base. If it were Kwankwaso that defected, he would have given Buhari camp a sleepless night because North still love him like Buhari to some extent but not Atiku. They see Atiku as a sell out.
maximilano:
Atiku doesn't have a political stronghold, he always wants to ride on an already built platform. Being rich alone cannot win presidential elections, most of his supporters are supporting him because of what they are getting from him not because they are die hard supporters. Unlike buharis Northern supporters who don't need him to give them dollars before they vote him. I think CPC strengthened his political might, Atiku should establish his own party and build from the scratch if he wants to be politically relevant. If PDP fields him in 2019, they've lost before going to the polls. The rejection of APC is not a criteria that Nigerians want PDP back. Smart politicians would take this opportunity to make a statement.
Walelavender:
It's a no brainer Atiku can never defeat PMB in any election. Despite the lacklustre performance of Buhari,his followers predominantly from the North are not gonna give it to Atiku. If you are familiar with the political climate in nothern Nigeria,you will know that cult-like followership of PMB hasn't changed.

It's so unfortunate that we are being presented with ghastly incompetent folks as candidates for 2019. Only an independent candidacy can solve this quagmire.
Let the house pas this bill and let us test the waters


You people should stop saying this because the North has never had one voting pattern. The minority north-east and north-central do not always vote in the same pattern with the northwest.

I am from the middlebelt.
Hausa Fulani Muslims usually vote with bigotry, but northern Christians and middlebelt Muslims do not. And the latter group can readily deliver about 9 out of the 19 northern states. This was exactly what happened in 2011 when most northern Muslims did not vote GEJ yet GEJ won 8 states in the north central and north-east.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by romeorailss: 10:55am On Nov 25, 2017
Bede2u:
Kid if u are too young to know what forecast means, leave sports betting and watch cnn more often.
If per chance Buhari won in my forcast, it wont seem stupid to you. undecided

CNN? cheesy grin

Bro, u funny die. If ur premise for the forecast is CNN, then u need to unlearn and relearn shocked
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by mercyp001(f): 11:00am On Nov 25, 2017
ihatesycophant:

The rate at which you guys deceive yourselves is alarming. I'm asking which of his followers will follow him. The only threat Atiku will pose is if and if Buhari will not contest and it would be another figure but I pray it's not Kwankwaso. Because as at today political permutation, Kwankwaso has more followers than Atiku. You guys always forgot to put to consideration that people of the North, I mean ordinary voters will always prefer Buhari to any other one because they believe he will always safeguard their interests than any other person. Even those following him would vote Buhari in presidency and vote for his (Atiku) candidate in others. Buhari is like a mini-god within the voting class in the North and they form a cultlike assembly when election comes as shown by records since 2003, even when they contested together in the same year.
They know he's just a bad market for the north when it comes to protecting interests. He may have inroad in the South East and some in South South but other regions it would be heavy burden. Also put in mind that the North don't always base their support on competency but interest. It's only South that always think of competency before interests but not North.
Well, there is no doubt that he has bigger wall chest to throw around but Northern voters don't always look at that but only interest base. If it were Kwankwaso that defected, he would have given Buhari camp a sleepless night because North still love him like Buhari to some extent but not Atiku. They see Atiku as a sell out.
u will soon knw Atiku's followers DAT will follow him . when Atiku decamped to APC from PDP,u guys celebrated him,then he has followers,but now because he reversed to PDP,then Atiku has no followers again. I smh for u guys.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Bede2u(m): 11:03am On Nov 25, 2017
romeorailss:


CNN? cheesy grin

Bro, u funny die. If ur premise for the forecast is CNN, then u need to unlearn and relearn shocked
The fact that you did not even understand my earlier response shows I shouldn't engage you further.
Call your elder brothers and ask them my meaning in the first response.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by romeorailss: 11:14am On Nov 25, 2017
Bede2u:
The fact that you did not even understand my earlier response shows I shouldn't engage you further.
Call your elder brothers and ask them my meaning in the first response.

cheesy grin Bros, I hail u o. CNN guru. cheesy grin

I gbadun ur stylo grin Hehehehe. U use CNN dey analyse Nigeria politics... Even the CNN news, u shouldn't take too serious when Africa comes to fur . cheesy grin
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Gap2020(m): 11:21am On Nov 25, 2017
Zendinho:
Atiku, Saraki, OBJ and many more were in PDP
when PMB got over 12 million votes in 2003 as a
lone ranger in opposition. He won in 2015 not
necessarily because of SW as he only managed
above 55% of the votes there


Guy man, indeed you are a comedian.....Pls kindly verify your facts, update your tips and do a comprehensive analysis before spewing trash online...


Perhaps you wanted to say 2million vote in 2003 and not 12million cos that's a fallacy of brain dead generations.
I'm a fan of any of the two but Buhari got 12m
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by emyddon: 11:26am On Nov 25, 2017
SillyMods:
Abeg make Una give the serial loser Una ticket ooo. APC will surely coast to landslide victory irrespective of your candidate in 2019 anyway.

No politician in Nigeria apart from PMB has an assured 12 million votes even in opposition. That base has grown even larger.

Make una continue to dey deceive unaself for online.
Leave them, even when Buhari formed CPC, he had around 9 million vote. And we know yar adua admitted the elelection was flawed.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Ennisdsdd89: 11:42am On Nov 25, 2017
Let me remind u dat Atiku has left APC and his folowers will follow him. Do not b deceived with d Statement dat Atiku is not a threat to dem, APC knows dat it is a serious threat. Remember dat PDP said the same when Saraki and Co decamped to APC,again if u are not a novice in Politics,u will know dat those dat decamped from PDP to APC then, contributed so much to d PDP lost. Conclusively,u will see d shocking events dat will start following d exist of Atiku. shocked

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by SillyMods: 11:58am On Nov 25, 2017
Nowenuse:


Atiku will divide the north, take it or leave it. I am from the north-central and I will likely vote Atiku instead of PMB.
Atiku will get massive voters in the North-central and North-east. And he will win the South-east and South-south
He will also win the SW and NW.

Atiku will even win 70% of total votes.

grin
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Mordecai(m): 12:00pm On Nov 25, 2017
NgeneUkwenu:
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Yea, that was when the results were allocated, now Buhari is in charge of everything, I just hope the Leader of IPOB Pigs called Atiku would win his polling unit!

Atiku couldnt even come near Buhari, in the last APC primaries when the two were in opposition, how then , do you think the same Man will have a chance against Buhari, as a sitting President? IPOB Yoots and emotions..

The same way you lots guided late Nnamdi Kanu, to his early grave, now you have all turned to Atiku, another fulani you claim to hate. grin grin

Here you are finally, admitting that Nnamdi KANU is dead.

Tomorrow, when it suits you, you would allege that he ran away to the UK.

But its good to see that you know he's dead, and was killed extra-judicially. Together with his parents.

We are watching to see what you'd do with that information, seeing as you are an "upstanding" citizen.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by orisa37: 12:14pm On Nov 25, 2017
There should be no manipulated ticket for Atiku.
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Haddock(m): 12:19pm On Nov 25, 2017
I read pro-Atiku comments with so much fear for Nigeria's future!

Are we interested in going forward at all? Are we interested in showing these men that Nigeria does not exist for them alone?

Is rescuing Nigeria Atiku's main objective? Does his heart cry for Nigeria in her current misery? Is Atiku in touch with our injury as a people or does he just want to clinch that coveted post and increase his ego and personal pride and show some "people" that he can also be President?

If the desire is to kick out PMB, APC or show Tinubu a lesson or any of such motives, no problem but please, let's have a rethink! Because another mistake that would cost us further 8 years (because Atiku won't wanna leave after first 4 years) of rape and plunder of Nigeria will be our end.

We cannot afford to recycle these same men forever. They drove us into this mess and now they are offering to bring us out of the mess as a campaign promise (like they are doing us a favour) just to retain power and wicked relevance.

Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by ekhai(m): 1:39pm On Nov 25, 2017
Even if Atiku is APC presidential flag bearer, he can't win election in Nigeria. Becoming a Nigerian president is harder for Atiku than for a Camel to pass through the eye of the needle.
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by IBBG(m): 2:14pm On Nov 25, 2017
lol. how will buhari affect the governor's seat in the south? it can only happen in the north. no decieve yourself, buhari will lost the SS and SE even more worst than he did in 2015, because we now know who he truly is and not some speculations bandied about in the media like in 2015. The governors in SE and SS are merely decieving him he shouldn't bank on it.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by IBBG(m): 2:19pm On Nov 25, 2017
Nowenuse:


Atiku will divide the north, take it or leave it. I am from the north-central and I will likely vote Atiku instead of PMB.
Atiku will get massive voters in the North-central and North-east. And he will win the South-east and South-south
i just dey laugh some people wey the claim say buhari get cult like followership for north. that was before when people thought he is infallible, but now people eyes don clear, they now know who he is. As it stands, Atiku is the only norhterner that can challenge buhari and win the presidential elections, and that is predicated on the fact that buhari has failed woefully couple with the fact that atiku is alos from the north.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Newbiee: 2:34pm On Nov 25, 2017
SillyMods:

And the as/se will be too dumb to prefer a new president from the North for another eight years thereby increasing the years it will take them to produce the president again, as against voting PMB for another four years and have a quicker shot at the presidency.

When the time comes, we go analyze am properly for una.

This guy you just too much. As if you know my thoughts.
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by dukekingsley(m): 2:52pm On Nov 25, 2017
True talk man, all those so call governor will surely wanna retain their position and to do that they will surely support PMB
NgeneUkwenu:


This your analysis is purely based on mere assumption with no empirical reason attached to it. Buhari will clear the entire North West, North East, North Central and South West Votes. In The South East and South South, the votes will be shared 50/50 with any PDP candidate.
Obiano, Okorocha, Rochas, Dave Umahi, Ayade and Ikpeazu will surely work for Buhari...as many of them are interested in retaining their seats in 2019, than any useless presidential election.
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by ihatesycophant(m): 4:16pm On Nov 25, 2017
Nowenuse:





You people should stop saying this because the North has never had one voting pattern. The minority north-east and north-central do not always vote in the same pattern with the northwest.

I am from the middlebelt.
Hausa Fulani Muslims usually vote with bigotry, but northern Christians and middlebelt Muslims do not. And the latter group can readily deliver about 9 out of the 19 northern states. This was exactly what happened in 2011 when most northern Muslims did not vote GEJ yet GEJ won 8 states in the north central and north-east.
Your categorization of voting pattern base on religion is warped and doesn't gel. This was the same political miscalculation they did for Jonathan in 2015 that he lost the election. The north will always be north any day any time when it comes to voting pattern. Bookmark this my comment, Buhari will always have an edge in the north whether north east, north west, north central or any part of the north. His political movement is just like cultlike, they don't even mind his antecedent or his error. All they are after is him or nobody. It would surprise you that those you think are against him today would be the one canvassing for votes for him as from next year. Buhari has been having field day in the north even when he was in opposition and that has not changed till date, if you like do permutation from today till 2050, it won't correlate to BUHARI's strength in the north. The only man that can slog it out with Buhari is Kwankwaso because he's also love in the North but not Atiku. Atiku cannot even win in Adamawa his home state. Buhari will flog him well there.
Your religion permutation can only work in South East not even South South, let alone northern states.
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by ihatesycophant(m): 4:35pm On Nov 25, 2017
mercyp001:

u will soon knw Atiku's followers DAT will follow him . when Atiku decamped to APC from PDP,u guys celebrated him,then he has followers,but now because he reversed to PDP,then Atiku has no followers again. I smh for u guys.
It was the same way you guys gave Jonathan live on the premise that he will win the election by poor permutation given to him.
If you had taken time to digest my submission. I did say, the edge Buhari has over Atiku is in the preservation of their interests and that is what the ordinary northern figure and the least is all about. His cultlike voting strength is still intact. For your info those you even think is against him today would start canvassing for him at the dying minute because of interest preservation. Even in Atiku's home base, Buhari will still flog him. If you think I am exaggerating, Pls bookmark this page and come and call me a liar.
For Nigeria of today Atiku is a bad market, even those against Buhari today would tell you same. I hope you heard what Falana wrote about the two?
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Nowenuse: 4:55pm On Nov 25, 2017
ihatesycophant:

Your categorization of voting pattern base on religion is warped and doesn't gel. This was the same political miscalculation they did for Jonathan in 2015 that he lost the election. The north will always be north any day any time when it comes to voting pattern. Bookmark this my comment, Buhari will always have an edge in the north whether north east, north west, north central or any part of the north. His political movement is just like cultlike, they don't even mind his antecedent or his error. All they are after is him or nobody. It would surprise you that those you think are against him today would be the one canvassing for votes for him as from next year. Buhari has been having field day in the north even when he was in opposition and that has not changed till date, if you like do permutation from today till 2050, it won't correlate to BUHARI's strength in the north. The only man that can slog it out with Buhari is Kwankwaso because he's also love in the North but not Atiku. Atiku cannot even win in Adamawa his home state. Buhari will flog him well there.
Your religion permutation can only work in South East not even South South, let alone northern states.


You are the one getting everything wrong here. I am not saying that the North will vote based on religion. After all Atiku himself is not a Christian.

All I am saying is that the cultlike Buhari support you are talking of only exists among the Hausa Fulanis and to an extent Kanuris who usually do their things with extremism.
This cultlike Buhari support does not exist among majority of the people of the north central and parts of the north-east. We do not do our politics with bigotry and that was why even when the Hausas did not see any good in GEJ in 2011 and did not vote him because he is a southerner, we decided to give him our votes and we delivered 8 states to him.
The reason why GEJ did not sweep our votes in the 2015 elections was because we were already dissapointed in his government, same way we are already dissapointed in Buhari's govt now. And that is why majority of us will like to test Atiku to see what he can offer rather than continue with Buhari.

But even at that, despite the fact that most of us were dissapointed with GEJ in 2015, GEJ still won 3 states + Abuja in the middlebelt. He also got about 470k votes from Kaduna (mostly Southern Kaduna) which was even more than the votes from some core SE/SS states.

So let this enter your head that the so called cultlike Buhari support or extremist style of politics only exists among the core-northerners. You cannot find such nonsense among the majority of people from Plateau Kogi Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, Kwara, Adamawa and parts of Kaduna, Gombe, Niger e. t. c.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by ihatesycophant(m): 8:08pm On Nov 25, 2017
Nowenuse:



You are the one getting everything wrong here. I am not saying that the North will vote based on religion. After all Atiku himself is not a Christian.

All I am saying is that the cultlike Buhari support you are talking of only exists among the Hausa Fulanis and to an extent Kanuris who usually do their things with extremism.
This cultlike Buhari support does not exist among majority of the people of the north central and parts of the north-east. We do not do our politics with bigotry and that was why even when the Hausas did not see any good in GEJ in 2011 and did not vote him because he is a southerner, we decided to give him our votes and we delivered 8 states to him.
The reason why GEJ did not sweep our votes in the 2015 elections was because we were already dissapointed in his government, same way we are already dissapointed in Buhari's govt now. And that is why majority of us will like to test Atiku to see what he can offer rather than continue with Buhari.

But even at that, despite the fact that most of us were dissapointed with GEJ in 2015, GEJ still won 3 states + Abuja in the middlebelt. He also got about 470k votes from Kaduna (mostly Southern Kaduna) which was even more than the votes from some core SE/SS states.

So let this enter your head that the so called cultlike Buhari support or extremist style of politics only exists among the core-northerners. You cannot find such nonsense among the majority of people from Plateau Kogi Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, Kwara, Adamawa and parts of Kaduna, Gombe, Niger e. t. c.
I've told you to bookmark this page. I appreciate that you changed your tune of religion to sectionalism. You also appear more emotional than reasoning on the available empirical standard. The use of the words, let this enter your head is more emotional and you need to let it down and be at the side of objectivity.
Now come to states you mentioned. Plateau, Kogi, Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, Kwara, Adamawa and parts of Kaduna, Gombe, Niger. Aside from Nasarawa all other states were in the hands of PDP then and he won in virtually all, except Taraba State. From 2003 that he started contesting even when in opposition, all these states you mentioned he has been scooping some votes without visible structure. Now that structures are visible and the cultlike supporters are there for him, Mr. man, no one can beat that. Atiku till date has no such structure, except the one built by the party he has been using. That was the same thing that failed Jonathan, he relied too much on party structures across board but forgetting that some people can die because of Buhari and adding it up with APC structures built for 2015 general elections. Atiku has not taken his time to build a platform for his election.
I still reiterate, Pls bookmark this page, and you will later know that your permutation is faulty. That your idea can only work in South South and South East not all states you mentioned. By next year you will also see more alignment and realignment in his! support.
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Nowenuse: 12:19am On Nov 26, 2017
ihatesycophant:

I've told you to bookmark this page. I appreciate that you changed your tune of religion to sectionalism. You also appear more emotional than reasoning on the available empirical standard. The use of the words, let this enter your head is more emotional and you need to let it down and be at the side of objectivity.
Now come to states you mentioned. Plateau, Kogi, Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, Kwara, Adamawa and parts of Kaduna, Gombe, Niger. Aside from Nasarawa all other states were in the hands of PDP then and he won in virtually all, except Taraba State. From 2003 that he started contesting even when in opposition, all these states you mentioned he has been scooping some votes without visible structure. Now that structures are visible and the cultlike supporters are there for him, Mr. man, no one can beat that. Atiku till date has no such structure, except the one built by the party he has been using. That was the same thing that failed Jonathan, he relied too much on party structures across board but forgetting that some people can die because of Buhari and adding it up with APC structures built for 2015 general elections. Atiku has not taken his time to build a platform for his election.
I still reiterate, Pls bookmark this page, and you will later know that your permutation is faulty. That your idea can only work in South South and South East not all states you mentioned. By next year you will also see more alignment and realignment in his! support.
okay
Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by Nowenuse: 12:20am On Nov 26, 2017
ihatesycophant:

I've told you to bookmark this page. I appreciate that you changed your tune of religion to sectionalism. You also appear more emotional than reasoning on the available empirical standard. The use of the words, let this enter your head is more emotional and you need to let it down and be at the side of objectivity.
Now come to states you mentioned. Plateau, Kogi, Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, Kwara, Adamawa and parts of Kaduna, Gombe, Niger. Aside from Nasarawa all other states were in the hands of PDP then and he won in virtually all, except Taraba State. From 2003 that he started contesting even when in opposition, all these states you mentioned he has been scooping some votes without visible structure. Now that structures are visible and the cultlike supporters are there for him, Mr. man, no one can beat that. Atiku till date has no such structure, except the one built by the party he has been using. That was the same thing that failed Jonathan, he relied too much on party structures across board but forgetting that some people can die because of Buhari and adding it up with APC structures built for 2015 general elections. Atiku has not taken his time to build a platform for his election.
I still reiterate, Pls bookmark this page, and you will later know that your permutation is faulty. That your idea can only work in South South and South East not all states you mentioned. By next year you will also see more alignment and realignment in his! support.

Yes I think I appeared emotional by using the phrase ''let it enter your heard''. This is simply directed towards the effrontery you appear to use in generalizing all northerners as 'cultlike' supporters of Buhari. That is arrogant of you and insulting to the personalities of my people.
You are not from the north as I can assume from your comments, so why just generalize the entire heterogeneous north with one description/assumption?

When you talk of platform, I really don't get the concept. Atiku was once our vice president. Who does not know Atiku in Nigeria? We all know him and that is what matters. Many people are going to vote Atiku because they feel APC is not meeting up to standard and Buhari has failed them. Simple. So they will want to try something new. All Atiku has to do is increase his campaigning and try to cajole and appeal to our people with the right words and strategies. That's all. Just as Buhari enticed us with the CHANGE slogan and Good luck enticed us with the I HAD NO SHOES slogan.

I do not really understand your 2nd paragraph where you said Buhari won all the states I listed except Taraba. If you were talking about the 2015 elections, please Buhari also lost in plateau, Nasarawa and FCT, not just Taraba alone.
Since Buhari was contesting in the past, he was only scooping votes mostly in core-northern states and not the middlebelt. This was why he lost in our region in 2011 but he swept the votes in Hausa-fulani areas. As simple as ABC.
Pls from henceforth, stop using the description 'cultlike' support of Buhari' to describe the entire north! That's very disrespectful to my people and completely misinforming. You can use it for Hausa-fulanis only, cos that is what it is.

Also, for the records, please never make the mistake of judging or juxtaposing the governorship and presidential voting patterns in our region together as you did in your 2nd paragraph. In 2015, Plateau & Nasarawa people voted APC in the governorship but yet PDP in the presidential elections. In Gombe, Buhari (APC) won but PDP won the governorship.

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Re: 2019: No Automatic Ticket For Atiku, Says PDP by olawalepopoola: 2:19am On Nov 26, 2017
mercyp001:

Do u also remembered dat in 2003,PDP got over 24million votes,represented over 61percent .
And i want to remind u dat in dat 2003 PMB ran under ANPP and then ANPP was very strong in d North. Assuming u've been to North during election,u will understand better and u will knw d Northerners voting pattern. I did my NYSC at Zamfara, 2011,and i worked with inec,it was den i knw how Northerners vote. U knw dat zamfara is an ANPP state,on d day of election,those guys voted for ANPP(the present Gov),and he got almost 100percent of d vote in my polling unit. But when presidential election was held,those guys gave almost 100 percent of d vote to PMB of CPC. PMB won 2015 election because of APC,hatred for GEJ ,power must return back to North. Hope u remember that PMB unsuccessfully ran for the office of president in
2003, 2007 and 2011 general elections. Bro,b sincere to yourself,APC knws dat Atiku exit is a threat to dem.
In 2011 he won massively in Jigawa state that belonged to PDP then under Sule Lamido. I participated as INEC AD HOC staff. It will be hard for anyone to beat Buhari in the north. All hands crossed but I really don't want PDP again the presidency.

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