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| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:29pm On Nov 28, 2017 |
COOL10:I am not in the least bit shocked or suprised. Donkeys ago I said the true test of KC will be when he dors not have the support system of top class players around him. That has happened and at club level he is struggling. He may come good next season or in the tail end of this season. He is having to adapt very quickly and change his style to meet the requirements of Leicester. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:32pm On Nov 28, 2017 |
femianski:Objectivity is key here, why do you rate KC higher than Gabriel Jesus. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:41pm On Nov 28, 2017 |
Ndidi with an assist today and another 90 minutes But let's all ignore that and extensively discuss Kelechi's absence on the team sheet. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:45pm On Nov 28, 2017 |
soetanoreoluwa:our defense is currently saturated already....even worse, his position (RB) has the greatest competition. Efe should just continue reminiscing on his past World Cup appearances and that 2013 AFCON. Nigeria stands a higher chance of winning the World Cup than Efe getting a recall into the team |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by COOL10(m): 1:13am On Nov 29, 2017 |
komekn:. Well,it's still his first season with them. Hopefully he'll get reasonable game time. What I will not accept is for the club to come out and say he didn't match up to expectations when he wasn't even given enough time to dazzle. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 1:18am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Icon79:The players at home and those abroad won't like that suggestion you made o (players stay home ). Dem fit consult dibia or alfa or wooli (prophet) on top that matter o.Fans like you that are abroad should go home now and start watching matches from the stadium so that attendance in stadium can increase, more money comes to the clubs, you stop watching EPL/la Liga, UEFA CL etc and then the league will get updated and our players stay home. Jah bless!!! |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 1:24am On Nov 29, 2017 |
COOL10:Certain dynamics have worked against KC. One, the coach that signed him for a huge fee was sacked. 2) The club anticipated selling Mahrez which hasn't happened. 3) The new coach can't be patient with anyone, he has a short time to deliver. 4) Mahrez, Okazaki and Vardy have been playing together for a while now so you can't underestimate the understanding and chemistry they have. My own conclusion is, KC should keep his head down, be focused as GoodJoe always says he should continue learning and getting better, the case of Niasse at Everton is a good lesson for players frozen out of teams. Sometimes a coach won't just give some players a chance, case in point, Mourinho with De Bruyne and Mo Salah at Chelsea. KC definitely has quality and in due time his star will definitely shine very bright!!! Jah bless! |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by owbabs: 2:24am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Abusule007:It's a technical side not a physical one. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 4:32am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Looks like Nacho might have been better off at city taking Pep's drills... |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Afobear: 4:40am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Taliban:make una dey do una self ....ihenacho is an overrated player and no star |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:54am On Nov 29, 2017 |
komekn:I don't buy that Nigerian factor excuse;maybe I don't have information others are privy to but to me to say Nigerian factor is just a lame excuse, a overly simplified way to look at Iheanacho's situation. What of Ahmed Musa? Nigerian factor too? Why hasn't Nigerian factor affected Victor Moses? All this being said I still do not think we should gloat whenever our players are in the deep end because personally it pleases me when our players do well. We need all of them in top shape for the World Cup. Iheanacho will come good in time. Victor Moses had it rough but today he's an important player for Chelsea. Hardwork +time+opportunity +grace/luck =success. I wish him all the best. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 5:44am On Nov 29, 2017 |
safarigirl:you took the words out of my mouth.... |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 5:50am On Nov 29, 2017 |
safarigirl:the most important thinh is they all stay fit for the world cup games.... the truth is...had it been KC was English he won't be treated this way....though him moving to leicester wasn't a wise move.. I want him and musa to at least play weekly even if it is in EPL 2...(elite under23 team) most important thing is that they keep fit...we all know what they can offer when they're on the SE colors. I think no playtime never really affected Ahmed musa performance I watched his pass to iwobi against Argentina...there was much brilliance in it and doesn't look like an assist from someone who has not been getting game time.... |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:11am On Nov 29, 2017 |
safarigirl:I don't think that was an assist oo. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:17am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Mujtahida:it's listed as one though |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:21am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Victor Moses wey fem use do turn garri, bundled from one loan move to another, because he just hit a gold patch, you don forget all the grass my guy been dey chop for up to four years? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 8:33am On Nov 29, 2017 |
EEGA:The way some of you talk here sometimes is mind boggling,.... At first and second bolded I see you contradicting yourself. What is the essence of building up play?...is it not to attack and score?... Isn't the same things idowu is doing, defending, attacking and scoring? why can't you give the young man a break ![]() FYI, every football player on planet earth definitely have some form of deficiency including Messi and C. Ronaldo . The onus is now on us to manage the deficiency that we can manage and explore the strength of the player that we have. Idowu already have good defending and good attacking play, we can manage that, build up play might have never been his thing. I don't know what else you want the poor guy to do. Of what use will a ball holding build up player be if it doesn't translate into goals?,..the last time I check football is a game all about goals... For so many years, Nigeria and Africa at large always suck at scoring goals on big occasions, friendlies, Nations Cup, and world cup proper, with matches always ending with 0-0, or 1-0 score lines, all with teams made up of ball holding, ball juggling, build up players, all for what,?.. All for matches ending with barren draws. This present crop of Super Eagles team are showing signs of the next best free high scoring team from Africa, and you now want to kill that?...Guy behave o! ![]() Goals win matches, this team scores and can score lots of goals....infact to me, the more the merrier ![]() The more goals you score the brighter your chances of winning matches while the less number of goals you score, the more the pressure on your team and defence. ...................................... Also you all should stop the bickering about better technical teams beating us,... Cos as for me apart from Brazil and Germany, we can comfortably take on any team in the world right now without fear, including Spain, England, France, Portugal etc,... Bring them on!.... Though I am wary of teams like Denmark, Croatia, Peru who are dark horses. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:42am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Danielnino00:Not a big deal but seen Iheanacho not making Leicester match day squad look saddened |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:48am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Danielnino00:Oga Komne why Irofa always on the bench cos you rate him highly. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:58am On Nov 29, 2017*. Modified: 12:31pm On Nov 29, 2017 |
safarigirl:That's precisely the point. Iheanacho is going through a rough patch just like Vicmo once went through. Truth is those coaches want to win. Once Iheanacho hits a gold patch too he'd get his run. Don't forget Ndidi his SE teammate is in that same Leicester City playing every week since he was bought in January of this year. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:00am On Nov 29, 2017 |
safarigirl:I thought cos Mahrez moved some distance with the ball before he took his shot it won't count as an assist. Good one from Ndidi. And he tried several shots too. Guyman na horse. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:04am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Kog45:If na Iheanacho or Osimhen dey on bench now he will say objective quantifiable performance wey dem no get that's why they are on the bench. Let's see what his response to your good question will be. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 9:05am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Mujtahida:thank you jare, we are always too quick to rubbish our players when they are on the bench in their clubs, we did it to mikel, even moses [can't even still believe that with all his progress so far some nigerians still think he is not good enough for the bbc award] Iheanacho will have his time soon, is it not the same player that was making the headlines at city when pellegrini was in charge? Nigerians are just fair weather fans, it's only in the good times they talk good about our players. we don't have or even tried to cultivate the culture of standing by our players when they have their down times, it's very very bad of us. Am still thanking God till now that we qualified for the world cup, if not by now almost all our players would have committed suicide from the words of Nigerians especially in these days of social media. God help us o! |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:14am On Nov 29, 2017*. Modified: 9:31am On Nov 29, 2017 |
realpoacher:The point regarding build up play is easy to understand. There was nothing to build up on that left flank and so I don't think we can judge Idowu on his build up play yet until perhaps we try out a 4-3-3 or have LMF who can exchange passes with him when we attack because that day Ogu concentrated so much on his defensive duties unlike Ndidi who was supporting the attack on the right with him, Ebuehi and Nacho exchanging passes. I have pointed it out before that our team relies too much on the right flank. There should be balance. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:30am On Nov 29, 2017 |
realpoacher:That guy and his analyses tire person. Brian Idowu reminds me of Ben Iroha. A player that often joins the attack yet there was hardly gap at the back. That was how Taye Taiwo also was at his earlier stages. Brian Idowu has stayed longer in the game than Ola Aina and Tyrone Ebuehi and it showed. Experience always matters as a defender. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:47am On Nov 29, 2017 |
I share Kog45's thought on that 3-5-2 formation. We may not maximise the full potentials of the team. I will still prefer the variants of 4-5-1 or 4-3-3. Victor Moses is a major attacking threat for us. We need him amongst the forwards. But a 3-5-2 will put him at Wing back. With a 3-5-2 a good number of wingers and Full backs would be surplus in the team and additional CBs would be needed as backs ups meaning a player like Uche Agbo would be almost guaranteed while players like Ebuehi and Aina may not make the final selection. What chances will players like Simon and Musa have if wing backs would be featured in this formation instead of natural wingers. With the 4-3-3, I would prefer a 3 man attack of Iwobi, Iheanacho and V. Moses with Mikel the orchestrator playing behind the trio. This will also give room for our regular Full backs to feature and a chance for Simon and Musa to feature as substitutes if need be. That 3-5-2 will not be maximising the full potential of the team. My thoughts. Anybody with a contrary opinion? Let's discuss this. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:49am On Nov 29, 2017 |
COOL10:Initially i don't want to talk on Iheanacho cos some we never see reason to it due to love they have for the young boy which is understood but that should not derail our objectivity in analysing the situation in a critical way. Firstly i remember asking Safarigirl who was the face of Nigeria football and she said Nacho but i said Iwobi.She gave her reason which i duly accepted,that Nacho was homegrown player.Now am seeing Iwobi as the face of Nigeria football cos his development is eclipsing Nacho development day by day.Iheanacho is losing it at lowly Leicester and the is not good for his career. I see a lot here who are even super analysts shying away from the truth,trying to heaps blame on Leicester coaches for being bias and sentimental forgetting we have another player Ndidi doing it for the same club week in week out. I don't think a club that splashed over £20m on a player should now turned around to disturb the player's growth.Iheanacho just need to brace up cos not leaving up to expectations at Leicester we have bad value on his market. I remember Iheanacho days at Man city how thegoodjoe tried to give his pinpoint analysis on Nacho development,some agreed with him and some are not due to different view of the situation.A lot want Nacho out of City so that he could get a chance in a relative smaller club but thegoodjoe said his development would be great at City. Truly it would have been better if he stay at city but what of our national team cos Iheanacho is one of the reliable player in the team,so need for him to seek playing time elsewhere. Now at Leicester which a lot of fans see as an opportunity to prove his worth but reverse is the case,seeming finding it difficult to break into the team but worst not making match day team is unacceptable unless injury occurs. We need to ask ourselves what is really the issue but i see a lot showing sentiments in driving their points,like Iheanacho is better than Vardy,who is Okazaki to bench Nacho, Slimani not a rival to Nacho,with all these excuses i wasn't surprised cos when Nacho was in City have seen some saying Nacho was better than Aguero,even before the coming of Gabriel Jesus,some said no way Nacho was better even when it was glaring these guys are better.I remember some believe Sterling should not be starting ahead of Nacho. The same thing is repeating itself in Leicester now.I remember when Shakespeare was the coach a lot said he lacked the technical know how,he was kick and follow coach that Nacho cannot develop under him forgetting the same coach splashed whopping £25m on Nacho.When Shakespeare was sacked a lot said good,time for Nacho break into the the team,that the new coach good for Nacho development but with the new man Claude Puel story remain the same. I see sentiments if we are saying Iheanacho is better than Vardy,forgetting Vardy is to Leicester just like Aguero is to City or Kane is to Tottenham,for Iheanacho to displace Vardy he must work and always grab his opportunity anytime he find himself in XI.Iheanacho has failed to make a statement this season and only statement is goal scoring,sometimes you see Okazaki coming from the bench and do the needful. There is nothing like discrimination against Nacho cos we have Ndidi turning to super star in the same club,Ranieri bought Ndidi,Shakespeare took over and still used him,Claude still using him meaning his quality is not in doubt. No need for excuses cos a lot were condemning Ahmed Musa for not making the team even some always question his national team called up but giving excuses for Iheanacho inability to make the team by questioning coaches decision is unfair. No doubt Iheanacho is a quality striker and he must show his quality in Leicester by working hard to be a value member of the team just like Ndidi. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 9:51am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Humility017:Bro.... we should try to be objective when discussing Issues related to Nigerian Players, especially Iheanacho on this Thread. We are always too emotional and also look for flimsy Excuses to vindicate the dwindling Performance of the Lad. Ndidi was signed in January, he walked straight into the Lineup and has never looked back till now. Imagine a Player signed in the Middle of the Season that still won an Award at the End of the Season?! Is Iheanacho better or more experienced than Slimani?! No one is hating on Iheanacho, neither the Manager is playing Politics with his Exclusion from the Team's List. Luke Shaw is an English Player, he was the most Expensive Teenager when he was signed by United, so do we say JM is playing Politics by not playing him?! Until Eric Bailly is injured, he was a Starter while an English Man in Smalling was rotten on the Bench. Pls..... we ain't helping Iheanacho by overhyping him or creating Excuses for his exclusion from the Lineup or the Team List. If he justifies to play, he's definitely gonna be played, and we shouldn't be regretting his Move away from City. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:01am On Nov 29, 2017*. Modified: 12:27pm On Nov 29, 2017 |
Oasis007:Honestly we are too double standards when it comes to our players. Ahmed Musa did not received the same sympathy Iheanacho is receiving here when he was frozen out of the teamn,nobody blamed the managers then,it was Musa has lost it,no need to call him again. Iheanacho should just brace up and face the challenges,not too big for him cos he has the quality. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:03am On Nov 29, 2017*. Modified: 11:46am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Kog45:Kayode didn't make the Bench last Night for Girona, Forgiveness was called out for Mockery. Iheanacho didn't make Bench for Leicester City, it was tagged Politics and Racism. Double-standard at its Peak! |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 10:08am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Oasis007:I don't even knw y peeps here av soft spot for KC,like say dem dey share out of d guy wages ,like I said earlier,clubwise,d guys form and career is dwindling ![]() |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:13am On Nov 29, 2017 |
I think it is too much of a coincidence that most our players are getting limited game time in the big leagues. Racism has many faces. |
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