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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:25am On Nov 29, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
I think it is too much of a coincidence that most our players are getting limited game time in the big leagues. Racism has many faces.
Bro.... our Players ain't the only Africans in the major Leagues, and why Ndidi is playing Week in Week out for Leicester?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
Icon4s:
I share Kog45's thought on that 3-5-2 formation. We may not maximise the full potentials of the team.

I will still prefer the variants of 4-5-1 or 4-3-3.

Victor Moses is a major attacking threat for us. We need him amongst the forwards. But a 3-5-2 will put him at Wing back.

With a 3-5-2 a good number of wingers and Full backs would be surplus in the team and additional CBs would be needed as backs ups meaning a player like Uche Agbo would be almost guaranteed while players like Ebuehi and Aina may not make the final selection. What chances will players like Simon and Musa have if wing backs would be featured in this formation instead of natural wingers.

With the 4-3-3, I would prefer a 3 man attack of Iwobi, Iheanacho and V. Moses with Mikel the orchestrator playing behind the trio. This will also give room for our regular Full backs to feature and a chance for Simon and Musa to feature as substitutes if need be.

That 3-5-2 will not be maximising the full potential of the team.

My thoughts. Anybody with a contrary opinion? Let's discuss this.
3-5-2,oga icon4s me i no dey o that formation look so confusing sometimes and team do paid dearly for it,any sleep you are gone.

I w not be deceived by 45 minutes performance against Argentina,our traditional formations like 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 rock,though 3-5-2 might be used when it call for it but to be our main formation,No o.My team Chelsea dey hear am dis season.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:22am On Nov 29, 2017
Nigeria factor!? Is the world against Nigerians only?

Why Nigerian factor no affect Emmanuel Adebayo, Yakubu Aiyegbeni, Efan Ekoku, Peter Odenwingie and John Fashanu?

Ndid is a starter 2/4/7. Why Nigerian factor no affect am?

Equating Iheanacho with Gabriel Jesus or Vardy is delusion of the highest grandeur.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:39am On Nov 29, 2017
Oasis007:
Bro.... we should try to be objective when discussing Issues related to Nigerian Players, especially Iheanacho on this Thread. We are always too emotional and also look for flimsy Excuses to vindicate the dwindling Performance of the Lad.

Ndidi was signed in January, he walked straight into the Lineup and has never looked back till now. Imagine a Player signed in the Middle of the Season that still won an Award at the End of the Season?!

Is Iheanacho better or more experienced than Slimani?! No one is hating on Iheanacho, neither the Manager is playing Politics with his Exclusion from the Team's List.

Luke Shaw is an English Player, he was the most Expensive Teenager when he was signed by United, so do we say JM is playing Politics by not playing him?!

Until Eric Bailly is injured, he was a Starter while an English Man in Smalling was rotten on the Bench.

Pls..... we ain't helping Iheanacho by overhyping him or creating Excuses for his exclusion from the Lineup or the Team List. If he justifies to play, he's definitely gonna be played, and we shouldn't be regretting his Move away from City.
Well said. Sometimes we tend to be more cheer leaders than analysts.
If I'm to be brutally honest, I will tell you that Nigerians are hard wired to always play the victims card. We blame everyone and everything for our woes.
Someone will hit his foot on a stone, he will blame his village people.

Kelechi have not been good enough. That's just what it is. The Leicester City coach is not even English, his job is on the line. Why would he deliberately sabotage his team by putting a performing player on the bench?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
elyte89:
I don't even knw y peeps here av soft spot for KC,like say dem dey share out of d guy wages grin grin,like I said earlier,clubwise,d guys form and career is dwindling grin grin
Should I use the tribalism projection by the same accusers then is it convienent to say na my brother factor?

But the beam in the eyes of the accusers is not necessary to dem na d plank wey dey others na em dem wan commot.

Nigeria factor is just a simple case of rationalization mechanism as against the koko.

Isalright
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:51am On Nov 29, 2017
Why have CAF been silent on this Libyan crisis? Why should we play football with idiotss who sell our brothers to slavery for as little as $400?
It will be a shame if we played them in the AFCON qualifiers next year. I hope the Nigerian government using diplomatic Fiat denied then entry visa into the country incase CAF don't slam the hammer on them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 12:01pm On Nov 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Well said. Sometimes we tend to be more cheer leaders than analysts.
If I'm to be brutally honest, I will tell you that Nigerians are hard wired to always play the victims card. We blame everyone and everything for our woes.
Someone will hit his foot on a stone, he will blame his village people.

Kelechi have not been good enough. That's just what it is. The Leicester City coach is not even English, his job is on the line. Why would he deliberately sabotage his team by putting a performing player on the bench?
You've said it all in the bold Part Bro. Always looking for Excuses to console ourselves. The same Puel was sacked by Southampton in the on-going Season for failing to meet up the Expectations.

He gets the second Chance at Leicester, and some Dudes think he's gonna compromised it by being racist - in the sense that he's not playing Iheanacho.

When Shakespeare was relieved, it was celebrated on this Thread, Dudes were hoping Iheanacho gonna get enough playing Time under a new Manager. So are we envisaging the Sack of Puel too, coz he's not playing him?!

The worst part of is; some Dudes are beginning to eat their Words, regretting Iheanacho left the drilling School for a first Team football. That's really not funny! Iheanacho is not god of Africa Football, he should buckle up, fights for shirt simply by improving his Game and lives up to his Potentials on the Pitch.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:14pm On Nov 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Why have CAF been silent on this Libyan crisis? Why should we play football with idiotss who sell our brothers to slavery for as little as $400?
It will be a shame if we played them in the AFCON qualifiers next year. I hope the Nigerian government using diplomatic Fiat denied then entry visa into the country incase CAF don't slam the hammer on them.
It's pure migration issue not football related issue.CAF can only condemned the situation just like normal organizations have been doing but coming in will be out of order.

Needs to talk to our brothers going through Libyan to migrate to Europe,better to go through Morocco than Libyan though is illegal route but still better than fallen into the hands of animalistic Libyans.

Hope Nigeria government responds quickly by liaise with Libyan government on the way out,just too saddened seen human beings subjected to terrible torture.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida:
Icon4s:
That guy and his analyses tire person.

Brian Idowu reminds me of Ben Iroha. A player that often joins the attack yet there was hardly gap at the back. That was how Taye Taiwo also was at his earlier stages.

Brian Idowu has stayed longer in the game than Ola Aina and Tyrone Ebuehi and it showed. Experience always matters as a defender.
I disagree at the bolded. Idowu played well but it wasn't because he had experience or longevity in the game more than Ebuehi or Aina. Longevity goes to Aina who signed for Chelsea when he was 11. If that doesn't count then note that the trio of them made their respective debut in the top flights of their respective leagues in the 2013/2014 season. Since making their debut, Idowu has 74 appearances, Ebuehi has 64 appearances, Aina has 20 for Hull this season(outside his appearances for Chelsea).
Idowu has no comparative advantage in terms of experience or longevity over the other two.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m):
Mujtahida:
I disagree at the bolded. Idowu played well but it wasn't because he had experience or longevity in the game more than Ebuehi or Aina. Longevity goes to Aina who signed for Chelsea when he was 11.
The trio of them made their debut in the top flights of their respective leagues in the 2013/2014 season. Idowu has 74 appearances, Ebuehi has 64 appearances, Aina has 20 for Hull this season.
Please let's take it easy on these guys (Aina,Idowu,Ebuhei)need to see them more in action.Their 45 minutes performance gave them a solid breakthrough,so remain continuity which is the main thing in football.

I remember our match against Brazil in Atlanta,the introduction of Teslim Fatusu and Victor Ikpeba changed the game especially Teslim Fatusi,he made it possible for KANU to get the needed equaliser but it doesn't mean Teslim and Ikpeba were better than those who started the game.

Truly Ebuhei and Idowu came in and Argentina switched off but does not mean they are better than those who started the game,sometimes unexpected happened in football.

Good that we are having options and goods for the team.Hope Rohr utilise this great talents cos this is the first time we having pool of talented fullbacks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:40pm On Nov 29, 2017
Kog45:
3-5-2,oga icon4s me i no dey o that formation look so confusing sometimes and team do paid dearly for it,any sleep you are gone.

I w not be deceived by 45 minutes performance against Argentina,our traditional formations like 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 rock,though 3-5-2 might be used when it call for it but to be our main formation,No o.My team Chelsea dey hear am dis season.
Ha! 3-5-2 is not our main formation oo. If we perfect it, it would be just one more weapon in our arsenal in addition to our traditional formations. I don't think it's a bad idea for our national team to have at least 3 formations. Germany has at least 8.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:49pm On Nov 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
Ha! 3-5-2 is not our main formation oo. If we perfect it, it would be just one weapon more weapon in our arsenal in addition to our traditional formations. I don't think it's a bad idea for our national team to have at least 3 formations. Germany has at least 8.
Better o cos some have seen it as the best formation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:50pm On Nov 29, 2017
Kog45:
Please let soft pedals on these guys (Aina,Idowu,Ebuhei)need to see them more in action.Their 45 minutes performance gave them a solid breakthrough,so remain continuity which is the main thing in football.
Infact I wrote what you just wrote but cancelled it. The point is that all three of them are at the same level. I would have even included Shehu but it's just that Shehu has had excellent showings in the Gwg than all three of them due primarily to the fact that he's featured more than the three of them in the Gwg.

In the Gwg all of Idowu, Aina and Ebuehi are level. We need to see them more before real distinctions in quality can be made between them. But for now none scales higher on the graph of experience as such more than the others.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida:
Kog45:
Better o cos some have seen it as the best formation.
Nooo. That's being careless. But we need more tactical formations in our toolbox.
The truth Sir is that these guys are bad. I mean Europeans and South Americans. If we stay one way with our traditional formations (which to me are too limited in this age of dynamic tactical football) they will take your formation(s) to the laboratory and pieces it. We might have good players but if we don't add perfected tactical variety to our game we would be beaten purely on the grounds of tactical play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:04pm On Nov 29, 2017
Kog45:
It's pure migration issue not football related issue.CAF can only condemned the situation just like normal organizations have been doing but coming in will be out of order.

Needs to talk to our brothers going through Libyan to migrate to Europe,better to go through Morocco than Libyan though is illegal route but still better than fallen into the hands of animalistic Libyans.

Hope Nigeria government responds quickly by liaise with Libyan government on the way out,just too saddened seen human beings subjected to terrible torture.
This is a question about humanity in general. Football or sports don't operate in isolation.
In the past, (Zimbabwe) were banned from the Olympics because African countries threatened to pull out of the games if they were admitted due to the white minority rule.
Recall Apartheid South Africa were not admitted by CAF and FIFA.

Bros, same sanctions should come down on Libya. Slavery and organ harvest is crime against humanity.
That country deserve to exist in isolation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:07pm On Nov 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Why have CAF been silent on this Libyan crisis? Why should we play football with idiotss who sell our brothers to slavery for as little as $400?
It will be a shame if we played them in the AFCON qualifiers next year. I hope the Nigerian government using diplomatic Fiat denied then entry visa into the country incase CAF don't slam the hammer on them.
Football stays away from politics and it's better that way. If your line is pursued now it won't be long before US will influence FIFA to ban Iran or Iraq or even Russia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:09pm On Nov 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
Infact I wrote what you just wrote but cancelled it. The point is that all three of them are at the same level. I would have even included Shehu but it's just that Shehu has had excellent showings in the Gwg than all three of them due primarily to the fact that he's featured more than the three of them in the Gwg.

In the Gwg all of Idowu, Aina and Ebuehi are level. We need to see them more before real distinctions in quality can be made between them. But for now none scales higher on the graph of experience as such more than the others.
Sorry the comment already modified pls read it again.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:09pm On Nov 29, 2017
Mujtahida:
Football stays away from politics and it's better that way. If your line is pursued now it won't be long before US will influence FIFA to ban Iran or Iraq or even Russia.
Why was apartheid South Africa not allowed to participate in caf and fifa organised tournaments?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:13pm On Nov 29, 2017
Oasis007:
You've said it all in the bold Part Bro. Always looking for Excuses to console ourselves. The same Puel was sacked by Southampton in the on-going Season for failing to meet up the Expectations.

He gets the second Chance at Leicester, and some Dudes think he's gonna compromised it by being racist - in the sense that he's not playing Iheanacho.

When Shakespeare was relieved, it was celebrated on this Thread, Dudes were hoping Iheanacho gonna get enough playing Time under a new Manager. So are we envisaging the Sack of Puel too, coz he's not playing him?!

The worst part of is; some Dudes are beginning to eat their Words, regretting Iheanacho left the drilling School for a first Team football. That's really not funny! Iheanacho is not god of Africa Football, he should buckle up, fights for shirt simply by improving his Game and lives up to his Potentials on the Pitch.
Well said Bro. Good, quality performance cannot be denied by prejudice. Coaches too desire players who will deliver the goods. That excuse is absolutely lame.

As for those who regret his move from City to Leicester I see no reason for regrets. In Leicester he even makes match day squad. In City last season he barely made the bench not to talk of this vastly improved City side this season.
The fight is where he is now. No need for regrets.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:17pm On Nov 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Why was apartheid South Africa not allowed to participate in caf and fifa organised tournaments?
Ehen, I am not aware ooo but I well remember how we didn't go for Afcon 1996 and 98 because of political gri gri between Nigeria and South Africa.
But it's better football stays clear of political issues. It would lead to abuses in a way we cannot manage.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:19pm On Nov 29, 2017
goldfish80:
This is a question about humanity in general. Football or sports don't operate in isolation.
In the past, (Zimbabwe) were banned from the Olympics because African countries threatened to pull out of the games if they were admitted due to the white minority rule.
Recall Apartheid South Africa were not admitted by CAF and FIFA.

Bros, same sanctions should come down on Libya. Slavery and organ harvest is crime against humanity.
That country deserve to exist in isolation.
Truly Zimbabwe and South Africa faced sanction but the issue in Libyan is not government related but individual forming rings to engage in illicit trading of human beings.In a situation like this you can't sanction the country.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:26pm On Nov 29, 2017
goldfish80:
This is a question about humanity in general. Football or sports don't operate in isolation.
In the past, (Zimbabwe) were banned from the Olympics because African countries threatened to pull out of the games if they were admitted due to the white minority rule.
Recall Apartheid South Africa were not admitted by CAF and FIFA.

Bros, same sanctions should come down on Libya. Slavery and organ harvest is crime against humanity.
That country deserve to exist in isolation.
If I tell you the country that tops the chart in organ harvesting and slave trade you'd be shocked but this is football thread. Make I no begin yarn.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by COOL10(m): 1:26pm On Nov 29, 2017
Taliban:
Certain dynamics have worked against KC. One, the coach that signed him for a huge fee was sacked. 2) The club anticipated selling Mahrez which hasn't happened. 3) The new coach can't be patient with anyone, he has a short time to deliver. 4) Mahrez, Okazaki and Vardy have been playing together for a while now so you can't underestimate the understanding and chemistry they have.

My own conclusion is, KC should keep his head down, be focused as GoodJoe always says he should continue learning and getting better, the case of Niasse at Everton is a good lesson for players frozen out of teams. Sometimes a coach won't just give some players a chance, case in point, Mourinho with De Bruyne and Mo Salah at Chelsea.

KC definitely has quality and in due time his star will definitely shine very bright!!!

Jah bless!
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I just wanna see the guy play ball. I get to see others not matching up to his caliber start while he isn't even making the bench? Come on. Call me passionate and I'll accept but u can't deny there's some truth in what I said. Anyways,he'll just have to fight for a starting spot or just automatically turn into a super sub. I don't think a loan move will be good for him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 1:35pm On Nov 29, 2017
junnyjake:
Nope, Spanish is the only intl language I speak.

Yoruba, Hausa, Igede, English, Spanish, Waffi Pidgin.
Okpunyi tii jii?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 1:38pm On Nov 29, 2017
goldfish80:
Well said. Sometimes we tend to be more cheer leaders than analysts.
If I'm to be brutally honest, I will tell you that Nigerians are hard wired to always play the victims card. We blame everyone and everything for our woes.
Someone will hit his foot on a stone, he will blame his village people.

Kelechi have not been good enough. That's just what it is. The Leicester City coach is not even English, his job is on the line. Why would he deliberately sabotage his team by putting a performing player on the bench?
That hardwiring is the actual Nigerian Factor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 1:41pm On Nov 29, 2017
Danielnino00:
I dunno why some people are making such a big deal of Martins current form..

Isn't this the same Martins that scores anywhere he goes??
From Newcastle to Inter to Levante to Rubin Kazan to Seattle Sounders... So what's the big deal if he is bagging hat tricks in China??

If Rohr feels he doesn't need him in the team then its totally fine.. He's he had chance with the SE . Now is the time for others to step in!
Guy, what brand of beer do you like?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 1:49pm On Nov 29, 2017
COOL10:
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I just wanna see the guy play ball. I get to see others not matching up to his caliber start while he isn't even making the bench? Come on. Call me passionate and I'll accept but u can't deny there's some truth in what I said. Anyways,he'll just have to fight for a starting spot or just automatically turn into a super sub. I don't think a loan move will be good for him.
Can you tell who Iheanacho should replace in the present Leicester City Lineup?! Do I need to tell you Mahrez is playing behind the Striker in their present Setup?!

So the Question is; can Iheanacho bench either of Vardy or Mahrez at the moment?! Ahmed Musa is relegated to the U23 Team, no one is crying Racism or Politics here, then why are we suspecting Foul play because Iheanacho is only making the Bench?!

Why is Ndidi playing?! Seems there are no white Competitors for him in the Team?! Let's be objective and face the Reality; Iheanacho must up his Games to get a Spot in the Lineup. Even on the Wings - Gray and Albrighton are untouchable, remember Gray was a Bench warmer under Ranieri and Shakespeare. He's getting his Chance now, coz he fights for it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 1:57pm On Nov 29, 2017
Danielnino00:
I dunno why some people are making such a big deal of Martins current form..

Isn't this the same Martins that scores anywhere he goes??
From Newcastle to Inter to Levante to Rubin Kazan to Seattle Sounders... So what's the big deal if he is bagging hat tricks in China??


If Rohr feels he doesn't need him in the team then its totally fine.. He's he had chance with the SE . Now is the time for others to step in!
grin

Did you understand your Post at all?! You claimed Martins is a proven Goalscorer, yet he should be ignored for a Call up?! Lol!.

I'm ain't advocating for his Invitation, but if Dudes are clamoring for the Recall of Enyeama based on past Glory, then what's wrong with the Invitation of Martins based on proven Records as listed by you?!

You are contradicting yourself Dude, coz based on your Submissions on Martins, he deserves a Call up!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 2:07pm On Nov 29, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
Guy, what brand of beer do you like?
grin

Can you tell why he deserves a Bottle of Drink with the Post?!

How I wish Forgiveness ain't making his Intentions too obvious like the Rest of us - coz he wouldn't have been tagged a Bigot.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:26pm On Nov 29, 2017
Oasis007:
You've said it all in the bold Part Bro. Always looking for Excuses to console ourselves. The same Puel was sacked by Southampton in the on-going Season for failing to meet up the Expectations.

He gets the second Chance at Leicester, and some Dudes think he's gonna compromised it by being racist - in the sense that he's not playing Iheanacho.

When Shakespeare was relieved, it was celebrated on this Thread, Dudes were hoping Iheanacho gonna get enough playing Time under a new Manager. So are we envisaging the Sack of Puel too, coz he's not playing him?!

The worst part of is; some Dudes are beginning to eat their Words, regretting Iheanacho left the drilling School for a first Team football. That's really not funny! Iheanacho is not god of Africa Football, he should buckle up, fights for shirt simply by improving his Game and lives up to his Potentials on the Pitch.
I have said my own about Iheanacho here from the start but almost got stoned for it.

The hype was too much.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nelszx: 2:40pm On Nov 29, 2017
As Nigerians are scared of other countries so are they and they want to avoid Nigeria. Even world number 2 grin
"Don't let their FIFA rankings fool you cheesy"

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 2:49pm On Nov 29, 2017
goldfish80:
This is a question about humanity in general. Football or sports don't operate in isolation.
In the past, (Zimbabwe) were banned from the Olympics because African countries threatened to pull out of the games if they were admitted due to the white minority rule.
Recall Apartheid South Africa were not admitted by CAF and FIFA.

Bros, same sanctions should come down on Libya. Slavery and organ harvest is crime against humanity.
That country deserve to exist in isolation.
Agreed a 100%
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