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Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Nobody: 11:52am On Nov 29, 2017
Abagworo:
Imo, Anambra and Ebonyi are giving Buhari block votes.
It will not be easy, but we must work towards it.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by LasGidiOwner: 12:08pm On Nov 29, 2017
Old fool, remove Anambra from your equation. Anambra is a republican state and we shall vote an Atiku than a Buhari over and over.


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Abagworo:
Imo, Anambra and Ebonyi are giving Buhari block votes.
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Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Kaziar: 12:08pm On Nov 29, 2017
Reason why I don't think atiku as president guarantees an IGBO president in 2023 is that there is hardly any president that doesn't want to complete the maximum two terms given so atiku in all likelihood might choose to run maybe with an IGBO vice. Whereas buhari as president may choose to leave office on a legacy of democracy as GEJ by providing a level playing field where a focused honest IGBO man could easily clinch the presidency as it is zoned to the south.
But its POLITICS nothing is ever sure.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by sarrki(m): 12:09pm On Nov 29, 2017
Bede2u:
The Sun, AIT, Silver bird, This day, vanguard, The Authority, channels tv.

Now tell me the ones owned by the south west. The Nation? Nonsense!!
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Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by omohayek: 12:12pm On Nov 29, 2017
Bede2u:
First of all, we are Igbo not Ibo.
Now lets talk of the politics of 2015, the first time se and ss stood alone. Does it not make sense to u up till now that Igbos did the right thing by standing by GEJ till the end? A man who carried Igbos along? In what other way can u repay him other than voting to reelect him?
How exactly did GEJ "carry Igbos along"? By promising a Second River Niger bridge he never delivered? By allowing Stella Oduah to "upgrade" Enugu airport to "international" status without providing it facilities against flooding? Or do you mean by allowing all the federal roads in the SE to continue to deteriorate without maintenance? Perhaps you're referring to the SE ports he did nothing to improve? Can you name any concrete measures whatsoever by GEJ that benefited more than a few top Igbo politicians?

If what you really mean is "carried Igbo elites along", then come out and say so, because GEJ certainly didn't do anything for the masses in any part of the country, not even in his own hometown, let alone in the SE. That's what all this talk of "zoning" and "our son" really comes down to, small elite cliques and their hangers-on waiting for their own turn to steal oil-money, not about broad-based development that will give their masses well-paid private-sector jobs, good roads, less crime, better healthcare or improved schools.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Bede2u(m): 12:17pm On Nov 29, 2017
sarrki:
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mediocre platforms.
Linda ikeji blog gets more traffic than nairaland. Check alexa
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by sarrki(m): 12:19pm On Nov 29, 2017
Bede2u:
mediocre platforms.
Linda ikeji blog gets more traffic than nairaland. Check alexa
Why are you not there ?

Nairaland is oyingbo market

It does not know may be you are here or not

This is the happening place

Soldier go soldier come barrack still remain barrack
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Bede2u(m): 12:21pm On Nov 29, 2017
sarrki:
Why are you not there ?

Nairaland is oyingbo market

It does not know may be you are here or not

This is the happening place

Soldier go soldier come barrack still remain barrack
cool. But i hope u now see u dont really control any media. Na so una go just dey lie upanda undecided
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Gomeromo1(m): 12:23pm On Nov 29, 2017
chinjo:
In politics anything can happen. Since Buhari become president, Tinubu has been relegated to the background. Now that it is becoming clearer that there might be mass exodus of people from APC, Tinubu has been rewarded with a flight to Abidjan with Buhari so that they can negotiate a better deal.
What if Atiku brings more on the table for Tinubu? What do you think will happen?
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Kennydoc(m): 12:24pm On Nov 29, 2017
igbodefender:
Nothing is 100 percent certain in politics, but you have to try. If Buhari is reelected, in 2023, the Igbo would have a bargaining chip that cannot be easily swept off the carpet, in that Igbo would be the only group that has not produced president in 4th Republic.

Yoruba have produced; Niger Delta have produced; the North would have completed Yar Ardua's truncated tenure. It would then be difficult not to give it to the Igbo in 2023.

If we don't play our cards right, by 2040, we may still be talking about Igbo Presidency, without much bargaining chips.

Let Oha
If Igbos vote Atiku and he wins in 2019, even if the North rules till 2027 and power shifts back to the south, which zone in the south will have a better bargaining power by then?
The argument for Igbos then will be that under PDP, both south south and south west have tasted presidency. Let the south east have it.

As for APC, the argument will be totally different. Tinubu will remind you in 2023 that he was the one that made APC come into power, even when all Igbos voted against it. Buhari will likely promise to hand over presidency to him (and the Yorubas) just to get Tinubu's support in 2019. Also, do you think Osinbajo won't want to taste presidency after 8 years as VP, or you think Tinubu will so easily relinquish control at the central government to undeserving Igbos? Igbo presidency will mean vice presidency for the north, and the best Yorubas can get is senate presidency.

In essence, if Buhari completes his term in 2023 (that's if he wins in 2019), power will definitely shift back to the south west under APC. That I am 100% sure of.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Bede2u(m): 12:29pm On Nov 29, 2017
omohayek:
How exactly did GEJ "carry Igbos along"? By promising a Second River Niger bridge he never delivered? By allowing Stella Oduah to "upgrade" Enugu airport to "international" status without providing it facilities against flooding? Or do you mean by allowing all the federal roads in the SE to continue to deteriorate without maintenance? Perhaps you're referring to the SE ports he did nothing to improve? Can you name any concrete measures whatsoever by GEJ that benefited more than a few top Igbo politicians?

If what you really mean is "carried Igbo elites along", then come out and say so, because GEJ certainly didn't do anything for the masses in any part of the country, not even in his own hometown, let alone in the SE. That's what all this talk of "zoning" and "our son" really comes down to, small elite cliques and their hangers-on waiting for their own turn to steal oil-money, not about broad-based development that will give their masses well-paid private-sector jobs, good roads, less crime, better healthcare or improved schools.
Actually the international airport enugu by gej hasnt been opened. It is about 80% complete b4 2015. Wrked stopped there after 2015. So u should knw wat u see i the media is the refurbished local wing. The Enugu-abakaliki-calabar road was by gej. The refurbishing of enugu-ph rail line and commencement of train service.
The location of federal road safety main training school in enugu. The refurbishing of unn and unec
I voted buhari but i have come to see that even tho he is not performing, yorubas refuse to drop him cos of osinbajo. The hypocrisy is gradually making my loath the west who i once took as brothers.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by WORLDPEACE(m): 12:39pm On Nov 29, 2017
Danladi7:
seriously!..and contradictions like this one below


"Politicians scout SW because of their propagandist
machineries not voting power. If you need to be
projected, you need SW Media. Not that SW owns
the media, but all media houses are concentrated
there."

And some stupid unintelligent people still liked the post!
I guess this is our cross. Every country must have persons like this.
The whole of southwest supported Ribadu. How do you reconcile that with the fact that
Ribadu only won in Osun state.
Then Anambra has more votes than the southwest. Not even Kano that has the highest number of voters can say this. He just sat down and started typing his fantasies. He wishes this were the case and he had the confidence to type it. Those who liked it were also liking their fantasies.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by WORLDPEACE(m): 12:45pm On Nov 29, 2017
Bede2u:
mediocre platforms.
Linda ikeji blog gets more traffic than nairaland. Check alexa
You are typing your wish. Linda Ikeji is not even among the first 10 most visited sites in Nigeria. Nairaland, last time I checked was top amongst Nigerian sites.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by omohayek: 12:45pm On Nov 29, 2017
Bede2u:
Actually the international airport enugu by gej hasnt been opened. It is about 80% complete b4 2015. Wrked stopped there after 2015. So u should knw wat u see i the media is the refurbished local wing. The Enugu-abakaliki-calabar road was by gej. The refurbishing of enugu-ph rail line and commencement of train service.
The location of federal road safety main training school in enugu. The refurbishing of unn and unec
It's funny that you either attribute all these things to GEJ, or excuse his lack of delivery by trying to shift the blame on Buhari. Didn't GEJ promise in 2011 that the bridge would be ready within 4 years? Google turns up several newspaper articles indicating that, so I don't understand your spin here. And what evidence can you provide that any real work even started on the bridge by the term GEJ lost power? Again, newspaper articles indicate the "work" never went beyond a few "preliminary studies". As for the "Enugu-Abakaliki-Calabar" road you give GEJ credit for, Obasanjo actually deserves the credit here, not your hero.

The rest of the "achievements" you credit GEJ with are so minor as to be laughable. Are Igbo votes to be bought for such a low price as locating a training school in Enugu, or refurbishing UNN and UNEC? These are things even ministers shouldn't be rushing to boast about!

I voted buhari but i have come to see that even tho he is not performing, yorubas refuse to drop him cos of osinbajo. The hypocrisy is gradually making my loath the west who i once took as brothers.
This only speaks to your own innate tribalism, not to anything to do with "Yorubas" as such. Buhari only got 55% of the region's votes in 2015, and there's no guarantee he will manage even that in 2019. Can you show any credible polling data to suggest most Yoruba people still support him? I'm betting you can't, and are just going off your prejudices: you can't possibly know what more than 40 million people are thinking from the safety of your living room or wherever you're writing your posts.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Bede2u(m): 12:58pm On Nov 29, 2017
omohayek:
It's funny that you either attribute all these things to GEJ, or excuse his lack of delivery by trying to shift the blame on Buhari. Didn't GEJ promise in 2011 that the bridge would be ready within 4 years? Google turns up several newspaper articles indicating that, so I don't understand your spin here. And what evidence can you provide that any real work even started on the bridge by the term GEJ lost power? Again, newspaper articles indicate the "work" never went beyond a few "preliminary studies". As for the "Enugu-Abakaliki-Calabar" road you give GEJ credit for, Obasanjo actually deserves the credit here, not your hero.

The rest of the "achievements" you credit GEJ with are so minor as to be laughable. Are Igbo votes to be bought for such a low price as locating a training school in Enugu, or refurbishing UNN and UNEC? These are things even ministers shouldn't be rushing to boast about!


This only speaks to your own innate tribalism, not to anything to do with "Yorubas" as such. Buhari only got 55% of the region's votes in 2015, and there's no guarantee he will manage even that in 2019. Can you show any credible polling data to suggest most Yoruba people still support him? I'm betting you can't, and are just going off your prejudices: you can't possibly know what more than 40 million people are thinking from the safety of your living room or wherever you're writing your posts.
neither gej nor buhari performed enough to deserve a second term. If we cant agree on this, then no need going further in this discussion.

I voted against gej in 2015 and will vote against buhari in 2019. I believe that by not rewarding mediocre politicians with 2nd term, Nigeria will be on a steady path of development.

If sw votes buhari en mass for ethnic considerations in 2019, then i'd loath them the way they loath igbos for voting gej en mass on ethnic considerations in 2015

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Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Nobody:
Kennydoc:
If Igbos vote Atiku and he wins in 2019, even if the North rules till 2027 and power shifts back to the south, which zone in the south will have a better bargaining power?
The argument for Igbos then will be that under PDP, both south south and south west have tasted presidency. Let the south east have it.
As for APC, the argument will be totally different. Tinubu will remind you in 2023 that he was the one that made APC come into power, even when all Igbos voted against it. Buhari will likely promise to hand over presidency to him (and the Yorubas) just to get Tinubu's support in 2019. Also, do you think Osinbajo won't want to taste presidency after 8 years as VP, or you think Tinubu will so easily relinquish control at the central government to Igbos?
And if the PDP candidate from the North wins in 2019, but looses in 2023 that would postpone Igbo presidency indefinitely. Best bet for Ndigbo: Vote Buhari in 2019, insist on Igbo Presidency in 2023.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by OFFICIAL336: 1:36pm On Nov 29, 2017
Danladi7:
" Politicians scout SW because of their propagandist
machineries not voting power. If you need to be
projected, you need SW Media. Not that SW owns the
media, but all media houses are concentrated there."

I dont know how to describe those who liked your posts.It is full of lies and contradictions!

1.look at your statement in quote above.It doesn't make sense!

2.SW contributed nothing to Buhari victory.yet,you Igbo blame GEJ loss on Tinubu and SW everyday!

3.SW never voted atiku in 2007 they voted for yaradua

4.With Igbo people mouth about how voting a northerner makes one an hausa fulani slaves,how hausa fulani has no brain and reason like cow and nnamdi kanu threat of election boycott,you guys can still become hausa fulani slaves!


you guys as a whole are disgrace!
Lemme start by calling you a fool for insulting an entire race.

Anambra alone cancelled all the marginal votes SW gave to Buhari. People are blaming SW not because their votes were big enough to defeat Jonathan, but because of their indiscriminate use of propaganda against him.

To the best of my knowledge, SE is not voting for Atiku, but for restructuring and lesser evil which Atiku represents.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by OFFICIAL336: 1:38pm On Nov 29, 2017
Alkanoicacid:
50k votes? The whole southwest? daaamn.. which cave did u just crawled out from?
It is just a pity you don't understand or read numbers.

500000 is not the same as 50K. Yes, the entire SW gave Buhari a marginal 500K votes, while Anambra cancelled that with over 600K votes.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Danladi7: 1:40pm On Nov 29, 2017
OFFICIAL336:
Lemme start by calling you a fool for insulting an entire race.

Anambra alone cancelled all the marginal votes SW gave to Buhari. People are blaming SW not because their votes were big enough to defeat Jonathan, but because of their indiscriminate use of propaganda against him.

To the best of my knowledge, SE is not voting for Atiku, but for restructuring and lesser evil which Atiku represents.

Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by OFFICIAL336: 1:40pm On Nov 29, 2017
bakynes:
How can you say the whole SW gave APC a 500k votes in 2015. Which kind lie b this?
It is just a pity you don't know what 'marginal' means. Another evidence of APC's failed educational policy another reason we are Atikulating in 2019.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by OFFICIAL336: 1:42pm On Nov 29, 2017
xnsandrxns:
This is a perfect illustration of how misinformed and ignorant you people are
The Southwest have APC 500,000 votes? shocked
They just camp you guys in that godforsaken region and feed you lies
And being a herd of no brain swine that you are, you believe everything you hear
You wrote all these nonsense and it shows how you guys think

The Southwest that "hate" GEJ gave him a whooping 1.8m votes while you iboes that love him so much gave him just 2.4m votes

And just to educate your ignorant head, the Southwest gave APC close to 2.5m votes in 2015
Are you sure you understand what marginal means?
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by OFFICIAL336: 1:43pm On Nov 29, 2017
Bede2u:
me too will atikulate. But em em..... yorubas gave apc over 2 million votes in 2015 not 500k. The good thing about sw votes is that its always divided. Except when they gave over 90% to abiola
I said marginal votes not total votes.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by OFFICIAL336: 1:45pm On Nov 29, 2017
[quote author=Danladi7 post=62821806][/quote]Fool!
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by omohayek: 1:54pm On Nov 29, 2017
Bede2u:
neither gej nor buhari performed enough to deserve a second term. If we cant agree on this, then no need going further in this discussion.
And where have I ever disagreed with this point of view? Perhaps you should have looked through my comment history before making yours.

I voted against gej in 2015 and will vote against buhari in 2019. I believe that by not rewarding mediocre politicians with 2nd term, Nigeria will be on a steady path of development.
Again, this is something I myself have stated many times, so there's nothing new and shocking here.

If sw votes buhari en mass for ethnic considerations in 2019, then i'd loath them the way they loath igbos for voting gej en mass on ethnic considerations in 2015

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You mean Yorubas will vote 95% for one candidate, even when he has nothing but 4 years of totally broken promises to offer? Somehow I doubt that will ever happen, just as I doubt you felt even the slightest loathing for all those Igbos who did exactly what you're now trying to use to justify hating Yoruba people.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Bede2u(m): 2:07pm On Nov 29, 2017
omohayek:
You mean Yorubas will vote 95% for one candidate, even when he has nothing but 4 years of totally broken promises to offer? Somehow I doubt that will ever happen, just as I doubt you felt even the slightest loathing for all those Igbos who did exactly what you're now trying to use to justify hating Yoruba people.
Oh believe me 2015 was bloody on my fb wall. Hate from me to my igbo brothers and hate from them to me. Wasnt fun
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Bede2u(m): 2:07pm On Nov 29, 2017
OFFICIAL336:
I said marginal votes not total votes.
ok ya
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by omohayek: 2:08pm On Nov 29, 2017
Bede2u:
Oh believe me 2015 was bloody on my fb wall. Hate from me to my igbo brothers and hate from them to me. Wasnt fun
Good to hear you're an equal opportunity hater of blind ethnic voting.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by OFFICIAL336: 2:12pm On Nov 29, 2017
Aboguede:
The 2019 election is here and will be deceided by the igbos and that is why you see every body licking igbo man's yansh including buhari and this time the igbos dominate all the southen nigeria.

While peter obi was predicted to be the king maker, he failed wolfly so i predict okorocha and obiano. Obiano hws taken the center stage in the nigeria's politics to the supprise of every body and he is also the owner and solo deceision maker of apga and he has vawed to win more states for apga.

Unforturnatly tinibu is no more relivant at all.

Nigeria is ruled by the unknown. No hody know obiano but he appeared from unknown place to become governor and even slapt his so colled master and git away with it.
Some times I laugh at our so-called political analysts.

One thing they don't know is that Ndi Igbo has so permeated the SW that Anambra alone can cancel the entire SW's marginal votes to any candidate.

One thing they don't know again is that in 2011, election turn out in SS and SE was 67% but in 2015, turn out was 56% and 37% respectively. Faulty card reader was blamed for this. If SS and SE were fully mobilized to 67% in 2015, Jonathan would have won by 500000 votes though with lesser number of states.

Atiku and Buhari understand this. If SE and SS fully mobilize for 2019 election, then Atiku will beat APC.

Igbos are spread heavily in all parts of the country. There are about 11 million of them in the North alone. This makes Ndi Igbo possess high electoral value than any region in the South.

Real politicians understand this.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by Kennydoc(m): 2:16pm On Nov 29, 2017
igbodefender:
And if the PDP candidate from the North wins in 2019, but looses in 2023 that would postpone Igbo presidency indefinitely. Best bet for Ndigbo: Vote Buhari in 2019, insist on Igbo Presidency in 2023.
Loses to who in 2023? It's not likely a new political heavyweight from the north will want to struggle for power in 2023 after the north has had it for 8 years and is going for the 3rd round, so there won't likely be a strong opposition from the north. Any strong opposition in 2023 will be from the south west or less likely south south, and you can be sure it won't sail thru when the north and south east are supporting him in 2023.
If Atiku wins in 2019, he will most definitely win again in 2023. He can never be as terrible, bigoted, ethnocentric and divisive as Buhari.
I'm not campaigning for Atiku though.
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by spartacus11(m):
OFFICIAL336:
You are disgracing the Igbo Nation with your senseless begging.
Majority of Igbos will rather go for restructuring than your stupid presidency.
A vote for Atiku is a vote for restructuring.
Beggar-in-Chief.

The joker in Nigerian politics is Middle Belt. Win Middle Belt and you will win the Presidency. The SW gave a marginal vote of 500000 to APC while Anambra alone gave PDP over 600000 votes.

When SW backed Atiku in 2007, did he win? NO! When SW backed Ribadu, did he win? NO! When the entire SW was mobilized for Buhari, how many votes did they gave him? a marginal 500000 votes.

Tinubu or no Tinubu, SW can't give APC more than 600000 votes, which Anambra alone if fully mobilized for election can guarantee to PDP.

Politicians scout SW because of their propagandist machineries not voting power. If you need to be projected, you need SW Media. Not that SW owns the media, but all media houses are concentrated there.

Atiku himself is an Institution, which a very powerful Media centre ably led by an able Igbo man, Ibe. Don't forget also the Head of Presidential Media Team, Garba Shehu is Atiku very loyal boy, former Director, Atiku Media Office, head of Atiku Media Team.

If you believe Bindow will not join PDP next year, then you are not a Nigerian.

Like it or hate it, we are Atikulating. Middle Belt are Atikulating as well, NE will Atikulate also.
U are a liar and i will expose part of ur lies
SW States APC won 5

OSUN 383,603 votes
OYO. 528,620 votes
OGUN. 308,290 votes
ONDO 299,889 votes
LAGOS. 792, 460 votes
Ekiti 120,331 votes
--------------------------------------------------------
Total = 2,433,193

SW gave PMB 2 million plus votes


Believe dis liar at ur own peril
Re: 6 Reasons Buhari Is Relaxed About 2019 by spartacus11(m): 2:25pm On Nov 29, 2017
OFFICIAL336:
Keep deceiving yourself.
The APC's 2023 ticket is not zoned to SE, but the entire South. Tinubu will sweatlessly clinched it.

If PDP fails to win the Presidency in 2019, the slot will still be zoned to the North. Aboki will rather vote PDP than APC to do an unprecedented 16 consecutive years.

Those folks ain't loyal to any party. They are only loyal to their Northern Agenda.

Atiku remains SE's shortest route to the Presidency.
Bcus ur hatred for APC makes u people refuse to build strong base for APC in SS/SE if not how can u people be scared dat Tinubu will sweet d ticket to himself

U people should learn politics una nor gree

If u want to challenge Tinubu simply build a strong APC base in your respective states that is all it takes
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