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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by somehow: 11:31pm On Nov 30, 2017
They have 2-3 players like Musa who are younger, remember it was Ranieli that signed Musa, I believe Musa had no reason to be in leciester in the first place. His best move rmains to leave.

That's one person's view and not all. Ndidi is bossing the midifield day in and out because he's done well and done his job.

Iheanacho knew where he was going to, they had strikers before he came and these strikers have refused to give any loss of form signs. The only way he can take their place is to outperform them, question now is, from the little time he's played, did he outperform any of the strikers?

No one can hide your performance, both of them should keep that to heart if they want first team football with Leicester.

BascoVanVeli:
I was speaking in general not exactly about u. Mo Salah and Victor Moses were at Chelsea so we can understand the difficulty they were having but when clubs like Leicester City won't even afford a player as experienced as Musa a place on their bench then something fishy must be going on. The media play a role in the indirect hate that goes on, I remember Ian Wright opening his mouth to say Musa, Iheanacho and Ndidi were not good enough for Leicester. When our boys miss matches their media overlook it completely. No journalist ever asked a Leicester coach the simple question of why he feels Ahmed Musa is not good enough for the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by somehow: 11:34pm On Nov 30, 2017
France and morroco aren't same configuration o. French team is made up of players from other countries unlike morroco.
junnyjake:
hahahaha.


And these guys are doing very well. Same with the Morocco team filled with FBs. I'm not bothered with the amount of FBs we have in our team, so long as they are the best we have.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:42pm On Nov 30, 2017
safarigirl:
hahaha....but Kelechi has the better goal scoring record.

Results is what matters
KC. - 70 plus games 22 goals
Obagoal - 460 games and near 180 goals.

Super Eagles

KC - 13 games 8 goals
Obagoal - 41 games 18 goals

What overwhelmingly conclusive stats are you talking abouthuh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:43pm On Nov 30, 2017
komekn:
Football is a short term vocation in the space of one season of poor performance and a player can loose 75% of his value.

You are only as good as your last game a few months of poor performance and you can be forgotten a whole season and you can be archived.

70% of coaches in the EPL and Championship willl get thier jobs by network. At this stage of the game race will be a big issue. However, those dynamics are very different around the London city Region where at Tottenham for instance half the coaches are black.

When it comes to Management that figure becomes very skewed and racism is alive well and kicking. What many of you do not realise those figures are a representative reflection of senior level executive management positions across the UK.

How many of the 000's of black and or Nigerian qualified doctors and managers become executive directors in the NHShuh How many black and or Nigerian over qualified comparative to thier white pears, black and or Nigerians are executive directors of Banks, BBC, Central and Local government, etc, etc in the UK. I can go through nearly every sector and you will find the same observation. So whether you were born in England or not your black and not really British unless you want to decieve yourself.

However, when it comes to player selection racism is not as pronounced. Managers in General (there are exceptions) will choose the best players they can get period. I know of a number of football club academies that will target black players for thier athleticism.

With regards to KC this has nothing to do with racism. Simply put KC does not have the primary attributes to succeed as a striker at Leicester City. Which is what the Leicester bought him for to be a striker.

KC does not have the pace of Vardy to lead the front line, he does not have the physicality to leasd the front line comparative to Okazaki and or Islamani. Some may not like to be told that KC lacks the technical superiority, skill and trickery comparative to Mahrez and Grey. So if you were a manager would you be choosing him over these players. He has been given opportunity but has fallen short, in the EPL you don't get a lot of time. Now he must work increase Bristol capacity learn to use his right foot change his style of playing adapt otherwise it's down hill.

When KC was at City he was surrounded by world class midfielders who compensated for his short comings and played to his strengths. That not withstanding he lacked the pace of Sane, Gabriel and Raheem. Games are won with small margins of competitive advantage. KC did not bring those advantages to the table to the standard required by City. However, he might do it for someone else hence the buy back clause which is about taking a chunk of any possible future transfer fee.

KC has been lucky to have the opportunity to be playing for the SE. And doing well. However, that doesn't mean someone else given the same opportunity may not have done better.
only as good as your last performance

Martins' last performance for us was crap, but here you are, advocating for him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:43pm On Nov 30, 2017
somehow:
They have 2-3 players like Musa who are younger, remember it was Ranieli that signed Musa, I believe Musa had no reason to be in leciester in the first place. His best move rmains to leave.

That's one person's view and not all. Ndidi is bossing the midifield day in and out because he's done well and done his job.

Iheanacho knew where he was going to, they had strikers before he came and these strikers have refused to give any loss of form signs. The only way he can take their place is to outperform them, question now is, from the little time he's played, did he outperform any of the strikers?

No one can hide your performance, both of them should keep that to heart if they want first team football with Leicester.
Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:46pm On Nov 30, 2017
safarigirl:
Nacho gets results without having to 'out-muscle' anyone.... Every other thing is English grin
Without support KC becomes anonymous he is not a true out and out striker.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:46pm On Nov 30, 2017
komekn:
KC. - 70 plus games 22 goals
Obagoal - 460 games and near 180 goals.

Super Eagles

KC - 13 games 8 goals
Obagoal - 41 games 18 goals

What overwhelmingly conclusive stats are you talking abouthuh
stop dragging useless club records when I am making points. This thread is about the Super Eagles, it is not about EPL or MLS or CSL or those leagues

41 games- 18 goals....less than 50% per record

13 games, 8 goals....more than 50% record.

That is the overwhelminh stats I am talking of
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:48pm On Nov 30, 2017
komekn:
Without support KC becomes anonymous he is not a true out and out striker.
KC gives support when he gets it.

He is a team player, he is not selfish like those your out and out strikers that will rather kick the ball into the crowd than pass to someone.

That is how he has half as much assists as he has goals if not more
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 11:57pm On Nov 30, 2017
Icon79:
Tell me about it! I honestly don't support that Agali's appointment. Now, the Nigerian factor and sentiments are bound to get into the team selection process. They should've left Rohr alone to do his thing.


O pari
Nobody is forcing Rohr to do anything... He choose Agali himself... He said he has been working with him since he started SE job..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:19am On Dec 01, 2017
somehow:
France and morroco aren't same configuration o. French team is made up of players from other countries unlike morroco.
A bulk of the Moroccan team developed in France.

Oh, I get you. while Morocco were getting supplies from France, France were getting from all the francophones.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by somehow: 12:25am On Dec 01, 2017
Hehehe yes.. morroco got their boys groomed by France while trance went to collect from Africa and other European countries. Same with Germany though.
junnyjake:
A bulk of the Moroccan team developed in France.

Oh, I get you. while Morocco were getting supplies from France, France were getting from all the francophones.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:25am On Dec 01, 2017
Humility017:
do you mean martins of old or Martins of now....?
because the martins of now I watched against Swaziland...could not do any of these flicks you put up there....

ighalo will do that for us anyway when need be....
Martins of now is scoring at a similar rate to Ighalo. Forgiveness and Komekn have posted their numbers on here severally.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:26am On Dec 01, 2017
safarigirl:
at least the Moroccan FBs look Arab...these French one, you KNOW they aren't originally French as soon as you see them....I mean, that shade of dark can only come from one continent. For us to equal that, our team will have to be filled with Ross Barkleys
Hehehehe, I tell you.


Our team is not even all that white yet and they are everywhere making noise.

I'm pretty sure in the next 2 - 3 years, we'd have more female football enthusiasts whose job is just to drool over the fine boys in the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:28am On Dec 01, 2017
Humility017:
he should also give Paul and kayode a chance....and likewise Dennis and yinka....
then he could take 32 players to the world cup.....?

if we are going to adopt also the formation we played against the Argentines. ...it means we will need few top 9....

you could see the likes of iwobi, nacho were already registered as CF....

so Martins may likely wait for Qatar 2022
Dennis and Yinka?? Please don't make laugh. I repeat, If Ighalo is making this team, there is no excuse for Martins not to. He'd be a good option to come off from the bench. Imagine using one game to determine he's not fit enough for SE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 2:04am On Dec 01, 2017
junnyjake:
Is this some francophone African country or wah??

https://dj0j0ofql4htg.cloudfront.net/cms2/image_manager/uploads/News/278084/7/1503578072_37bbd.jpg
French team is cheating the rest of the world
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:06am On Dec 01, 2017
Napoleon55:
French team is cheating the rest of the world
Those boys were developed by the french system.

Would Zidane have reached the heights if he played for Algeria?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Dedebanky85: 3:34am On Dec 01, 2017
That Martin's is older and Nacho is presently/currently in the SE team doesn't make Iheanacho better. I sick for that guy. Let's not get it twisted, tho I am of the opinion that we have moved on from the era of Martin's, I would never subscribe to that school that says Nacho is more technical than Martin's. Martin's is a very technical player. Martin's has always done well in every club he's been to. Let's not start taking his dues just cos em no de SE currently. I personally feel his speedy style suits this current SE. But I think we have other younger options and I only day that just cos of post WC era. If not that Martin's deserves a shot at SE and when i say deserves, he merits it due to his current performances.



edi287:
Again, let me get this straight - you're saying Nacho has better technique than Martins?? I.e better touch, ball control, etc??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 5:50am On Dec 01, 2017
Mickael2:
how are they proven in the GwG?

Iheanacho against Algeria twice, blank all through. Which other competitive game did he play and score? Yes Cameroon when the game was done, if that is what 'proving yourself' means then Bright Dike should still be playing for us
You can type all you want but stay far away from Bright Dike. Prior to 2013 nations cup Bright was our newly discovered hitman, he had the drive, hunger,,skills and power, since his goal against Catalonia he became fans favorite only to be hindered by injury. Same thing happened prior to 2014 world cup. He scored a classic header also against Italy and another horrible ankle injury kept him out of the world cup. The guy is good, to keshi he was his top point man even ahead of Emenike then and I daresay that if he were at Brazil, we wouldn't have lost against France so toothlessly without a fight.

So take your bias analysis far away from him. Its been so obvious on this thread that you are an enemy of SE, you have always wished us failure, and even when our boys dissapoints you and win/draw , you count it as nothing and go as far as saying our opponents were weak or rather they gifted us the match. With the way you talk here even if we beat Brazil and Germany at the world cup you will still call it a fluke. I wonder why you are like this, so negative against SE,- could it be your preferred players are not playing, could it be you are not a Nigerian?.... huh

Either ways just remain as the armchair analyst that you are and stay far away from this team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by EmmGee: 6:10am On Dec 01, 2017
there are 5 african teams in the world cup. 6 if you count France
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Isahalbash(m): 6:11am On Dec 01, 2017
Nigerians be looking for Russia....












NA GROUP D WE GO DEY grin




NAA
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Famocious(m): 7:02am On Dec 01, 2017
Dennis Bonaventure with a brace for Club Bruges yesterday evening ...

Another young lad doing greatly in Belgium

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 7:08am On Dec 01, 2017
Dedebanky85:
That Martin's is older and Nacho is presently/currently in the SE team doesn't make Iheanacho better. I sick for that guy. Let's not get it twisted, tho I am of the opinion that we have moved on from the era of Martin's, I would never subscribe to that school that says Nacho is more technical than Martin's. Martin's is a very technical player. Martin's has always done well in every club he's been to. Let's not start taking his dues just cos em no de SE currently. I personally feel his speedy style suits this current SE. But I think we have other younger options and I only day that just cos of post WC era. If not that Martin's deserves a shot at SE and when i say deserves, he merits it due to his current performances.
Exactly! I don't know why many are against calling him up. Ighalo, Nacho and Martins as our strikers would be great. It's a mixture of experience and youth.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 7:09am On Dec 01, 2017
Famocious:
Dennis Bonaventure with a brace for Club Bruges yesterday evening ...

Another young lad doing greatly in Belgium
Big fan of his. Will be knocking on the door for Afcon 2019 if we qualify
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lucque: 7:32am On Dec 01, 2017
But sir the stats u just posted are not rili putting Martin's ahead
22/70 =0.31 goals to game ratio
180/460 = 0.39 goals to game ratio..

For d national team
KC.. 8/13=0.615 goals to game ratio
Obagoal... 18/41=0.439 goals to game ratio...
From d stats iheanacho is d more clinical or productive striker for the super eagles and d professional ratio is not as wide as we have been talking abt given KC's poor run of form in front of goal lately KC could easily be better.. So I believe at dis point it's fair to say KC is still a beta ND younger option for d national team.
My opinion tho
komekn:
KC. - 70 plus games 22 goals
Obagoal - 460 games and near 180 goals.

Super Eagles

KC - 13 games 8 goals
Obagoal - 41 games 18 goals

What overwhelmingly conclusive stats are you talking abouthuh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Russianruble: 8:08am On Dec 01, 2017
safarigirl:
KC gives support when he gets it.

He is a team player, he is not selfish like those your out and out strikers that will rather kick the ball into the crowd than pass to someone.

That is how he has half as much assists as he has goals if not more
Madam you know nothing about football cheesy
Go back to the kitchen where you belong and once you are done cooking, come to the other room and please me as I wish wink this is place is meant for men okay? Keep the place moist I will cum soon. shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Eseose9(f): 8:29am On Dec 01, 2017
Icon4s:
How Kelechi go dey pick him call when village pipul no go gree him rest with their demands.
Hahahahaha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by femianski: 8:42am On Dec 01, 2017
It will be an act of foolishness if Rorh calls up Martins
I have been following Martins performance and I must say that he is selfish
He is not a team player
His inclusion can distrupt the flow of the team
Wat is annoying me most about ppl calling for his inclusion is that he never suffered with the team during the qualifiers nor played any friendly game with this present super eagles
He might not understand the tactics in this team
This is a new Super eagles and we have to move on
Ighalo iheanacho and kayode are there
With the little experience that ighalo has he can lead our attack
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:42am On Dec 01, 2017
somehow:
They have 2-3 players like Musa who are younger, remember it was Ranieli that signed Musa, I believe Musa had no reason to be in leciester in the first place. His best move rmains to leave.

That's one person's view and not all. Ndidi is bossing the midifield day in and out because he's done well and done his job.

Iheanacho knew where he was going to, they had strikers before he came and these strikers have refused to give any loss of form signs. The only way he can take their place is to outperform them, question now is, from the little time he's played, did he outperform any of the strikers?

No one can hide your performance, both of them should keep that to heart if they want first team football with Leicester.
They do not have one player with similar traits to Musa who is younger, at least that one is a fact. He did not beg or even push to go to Leicester city, I remember his former CSKA coach saying Musa asked him when to resume preseason. The player has not been given a fair shot at proving himself. Some no name coach comes in and I am just to agree that he is not good enough for the EPL? The media even dropped a story about his teammates not wanting him to be in the team and not even his club website sort out to rubbish that story. No other journalist as felt it necessary to ask the players if the story is true or not.
One thing I won't accept is that because Ndidi is a regular all must be fine. TBH that is a selfish conclusion, it is like saying "as long as it is ok with me I see no evil". As for Kelechi please name the club outside of England that would pay that £25m? No use in tricking urself, Pep sold Nacho to the highest bidder.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by femianski: 8:43am On Dec 01, 2017
Russianruble:
Madam you know nothing about football cheesy
Go back to the kitchen where you belong and once you are done cooking, come to the other room and please me as I wish wink this is place is meant for men okay? Keep the place moist I will cum soon. shocked
Smh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:49am On Dec 01, 2017
Russianruble:
Madam you know nothing about football cheesy
Go back to the kitchen where you belong and once you are done cooking, come to the other room and please me as I wish wink this is place is meant for men okay? Keep the place moist I will cum soon. shocked
Is this a joke?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:55am On Dec 01, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
They do not have one player with similar traits to Musa who is younger, at least that one is a fact. He did not beg or even push to go to Leicester city, I remember his former CSKA coach saying Musa asked him when to resume preseason. The player has not been given a fair shot at proving himself. Some no name coach comes in and I am just to agree that he is not good enough for the EPL? The media even dropped a story about his teammates not wanting him to be in the team and not even his club website sort out to rubbish that story. No other journalist as felt it necessary to ask the players if the story is true or not.
One thing I won't accept is that because Ndidi is a regular all must be fine. TBH that is a selfish conclusion, it is like saying "as long as it is ok with me I see no evil". As for Kelechi please name the club outside of England that would pay that £25m? No use in tricking urself, Pep sold Nacho to the highest bidder.
They sold Nacho for 25m because he was moving to a English club. I'm sure he'd have gone for a bit less if he moved abroad. Let's not forget Nacho himself didn't want to leave England because he wants to attain british citizenship.

You are partially right about Musa. The players turned on Ranieri because he changed formation to try and accommodate Musa. He was also being played ahead of Demerai Gray. Musa didn't exactly take the chances he was presented with sha...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:57am On Dec 01, 2017
Russianruble:
Madam you know nothing about football cheesy
Go back to the kitchen where you belong and once you are done cooking, come to the other room and please me as I wish wink this is place is meant for men okay? Keep the place moist I will cum soon. shocked
This is sexist...you deserve to be flogged by NL feminists.
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