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genghiskhan007:
my love----uredo mi (uredo literally means what my heart desires)

Why is it not ufedo

greatjoey:
You may be right in this too. Lets analyse the word structure here. a or awa mean us or we., de means to meet. Dè means presence. Jó is a plural form of dé which means presence too. Bringing these words together t make a sense, it laterally means we meet present. It doesn't make any sense. Togetherness in Igala is called 'udama'. If it has been Adedama, it would have been right. Better still, if the name 'Adejo' is seen as a phrase whose full meaning is 'Adejodama',
it would be translated as 'we met and stay together'. Pls, make more research too. Thanks.

Thanx OP. This is fantastic!
Adejoh could have been derived from 'Adeju Ojo' meaning 'we wait on God', an expression of faith in God.

Nice work@ IGALASCHOOL

Goodmornin Nairalanders.

greatjoey:
Ókó is either a plane or a chip in a shot form. Yoy differentiate between the two by adding Omi and ate to them respectively. Also instead dudu, kpikpa and fufu, they are written as edudu, ekpikpa and efufu.

It is 'oko ojale' for aircraft

routsz:
It is 'oko ojale' for aircraft

I know. That was why I said Ókó is referred to a ship or an aircraft in a short form. Ship I called Ókó Omi and a aircraft I called Ókó Ojale like you said. Than you.

Silumi:
Why is it not ufedo

Ufedo means like.....but uredo is on a deeper scale...meaning love, who you or someone loves and what your heart desires

Op let's have igala names and their meaning

Op let's have igala names and their meaning, days in a week and months in a year.

genghiskhan007:
Ufedo means like.....but uredo is on a deeper scale...meaning love, who you or someone loves and what your heart desires

Ufedo = love
Uredo = peace

routsz:
Thanx OP. This is fantastic!
Adejoh could have been derived from 'Adeju Ojo' meaning 'we wait on God', an expression of faith in God.

. The correct spelling of the name is ADU-OJO (God's Servant)

genghiskhan007:
Ufedo means like.....but uredo is on a deeper scale...meaning love, who you or someone loves and what your heart desires

So they have been lying to me that my name means love.....all these people.

greatjoey:
If one must talk about ancestry of two or more languages, yo don't consider the language solely. The major consideration is the culture and tradition. The Yorubas shares no cultural affinity with the igalas. Tribe like Idomas has 99.9% cultural practice with the Igala, The Igbo of Nsuka an its environs has over 75% cultural affinity with us too. From this you can make an inference that these are but one people.

The basis of Igala traditional religion is also similar to that of yoruba
Ideas like:
Ebo - Ebora
Ifa - Ifa
Ukpokwu - Egungun

gistsky:
Coc.k is called Ayiko/Aiko
Stone is Okuta
Omaobala
Oma = child
Obala means cat
Omaobala means child of cat literally.
Adejo is a compound word: Adu-Ojo
Adu is slave, Ojo is God.
AduOjo pronounced Adejo means slave of God/Servant of God

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Thank you for the response @gistky!
I appreciate this!

naoma:
. IGALA/YORUBA RELATIONSHIP


The Oduduwa Conception
There is no doubt whatsoever that Oduduwa is the progenitor of the Yoruba people. Controversy about the origin of Oduduwa should be clarified using the Igala oral history. Oral history is passed from generation to generation through story telling (alo), songs (eli) and proverbs (ita or akpo). The fact that the white settlers initially wrote our history for us, made it very clumsy and unbelievable, the level of distortion came from the person that narrated the story. Because of the varying opinions about the personality of ‘Oduduwa’, there is therefore a compelling mandate to put the facts on the table of public opinions for accurate and intelligent assessment of these bare pieces of information.
Oduduwa is believed by the Igalas to have originated from Benin the present Edo state capital (Bini Kingdom). His real name was Ekaladeran. Igala Kingdom share boundary with Benin. Infact, it is the River Niger that separated in parts the two great kingdoms.


Instances of Igala/Bini Kingdom relationships are too remarkable to be ignored. Taking into account the difference in the two languages, a closer study of the two courts at Idah and Benin would reveal more evidence to prove the connection of the two kingdoms.
Special class of notables directly appointed by the Attah under the title of Edibo: at Benin it is almost exactly the equivalent class of confidential servant of the Oba known as Eghaivbo. Another significant tie is to be found in the titles given to Oba-elect and his counterpart the Attah-elect. The next in succession to the reigning Oba at Benin held the title of crown Prince or Ediaiken. No such position is accorded to the successor to the reigning Attah, but on the death of an Attah, his successor is saluted by a special title; until such time as he has been ceremonially installed as Attah he is known as the Adokanya.


Turning to the great officials who formed the immediate entourage of the Attah Igala and Oba of Benin, there is a marked similarity in the titles that can be hardly accidental.
Igala Kingdom Benin Kingdom
Achadu > Oshodi
Ondoma Attah > Ojoma
Amana Attah > Imara
Omakoji Attah > Ojiame
Omalogba > Ologboshere
Ochai Attah > Iyashe

Even more apparent in their connection is the title given to the chief festival of the year, IGU at Benin and EGU at Idah. The events which led to Oduduwa’s escape from Benin was that; he was earmarked then, to be the next Oba of Benin, but the other contestant to the same throne seems to be stronger than him. And Oduduwa felt that his life would not be saved staying in the land. The battle for leadership as it was in those days even today in some traditions was and is always a fierce battle.


Actually, he was a prince from the Benin ruling class (royal family). For this reason, he had to prepare and escape for his dear life.
Oduduwa had a fearful mind and that may be the reason why many Yorubas do fear. He crossed the river Niger to the Igala land located towards the northeastern part of Benin. He was found wandering in the bush by hunters and was brought to the palace. His appearance was not like that of a poor but of a noble and rich person. When they tried to find out about his origin, he refused to disclose it. As it has been in the tradition of the Igalas, any stranger or strange thing(s) found must be brought to the palace of the supreme ruler of the land, at the headquarter of the Igala kingdom (Idah).

For at least about a thousand of years preceding Attah’s institution was Igalamela’s dynasty. This means that nine Igala Chiefs or Judges meet to take decision concerning any matter. It is very interesting to learn about this democratic setting as at that primitive age. This nine juries vote on certain matters with a clear winner emerging. A monument put in place in remembrance of these historical facts was the creation of Igalamela/Odolu Local Government Area with the headquarters at Ajaka in the present Kogi State of Nigeria; and after which was the establishment of Attah’s institution. Attah means father and is the only supreme authority in the kingdom. Oduduwa was led to Attah’s palace were the Attah also tried to establish his origin but he did not disclose his origin. Then Attah passed a verdict that he should be allowed to stay in the land and gave him a name “Oduduwa”. ‘Oodu’ means (Lord). “Duwa” means (Bring). That is “The Lord brought him” or “he was brought by God”. While Igala says muwa for a moving object. “Mu” is “catch”. “wa” is “come”. “Muwa” is “catch and bring”.

The plural of “duwa” is “kowa” or “koma wa” while that of “muwa” is “muma wa” (catch them and bring). Oduduwa to be regarded and accorded the type of acceptance given to him then, suggested that he must have displayed some level of spiritual power or he was just being favoured.


If you ask any Yoruba man about the meaning of “Oduduwa”, he finds it difficult to explain in vivid term the meaning. Oduduwa then settled in a place, which he named “Ife”. Ife is a District in Omala Local Government Area of Kogi State in Nigeria with the headquarters at Abejukolo. Abejukolo (iba aji kolo) means, “a town or place located near a river and surrounded by other rivers.

He named the place, stayed in the place, married Igala wives and gave birth to many children. Ife (Ola m’ife), meaning “I am clean” “my body is clean”. Since he was the only person that left Benin to Igala land, the first thing he did was to learn the language in order to communicate with the people. Oduduwa then spoke Igala language with his wives, children and the people. This is the reason why Igala words constitute about seventy five percent (75%) of Yoruba spoken words.

The people of Ife are mostly dark in complexion. Strong, averagely tall intelligent and musically talented. The title of the chief of Ife is called “OJOGBA”. It was only that chiefdom that attempts to forcefully overthrow one of the Attah’s through war. It should be noted that the making of an Attah is never done through war or conquest but through a peaceful selection and rotation between the royal families or ruling classes. This Chief made attempt and almost succeeded. If the war had continued a day longer, maybe he would have won, hence the “Ojogba” which means it was God’s intervention or it was God that saved Attah’s throne if not he would have become Attah.

There was another instance, when one of the Attah’s was touring Ife District were hoodlums under the cover of an early morning dews attacked him. That made the Attah to curse the district against having dew and up till date the area has never witnessed any dew. He is the only chief that does not bend down for an Attah.

Oduduwa could not stay in Igala land to achieve his royal ambition and for that reason, he then decided to relocate to another area where he could establish his own dynasty and rule his people. Oduduwa moved with his people to the West and dwelt in a place, which is also called ‘Ife’. It was later referred to as Ile-Ife meaning gain from Ife because of his achievements from Ife land (ile = gain in Igala Language). Just as we have Ibadan in Oyo State located towards the West of Ile-Ife in Osun State, there is also an ancient town called Ibado (Ibadan) located towards the South-West of Ife in Igala land; it is also called Ibado-Akpacha because it grew in size to meet another town called Akpacha.


Oduduwa was a nobleman, an embodiment of spiritual power. He left Benin because of fear but at the time of his stay in Igala land he acquired a lot of spiritual powers. The soil composition, natural vegetation and the weather of Ife in Igala land and that of Yoruba are almost the same.
They also share common farm produce and economic trees like Iroko (uloko) and other timbers, palm trees (Ekpe) although fewer in the west. Common farm produce like yam (uchu), cocoyam (ikachi), banana (ogede), cocoa, coffee, kolanuts (obi) and so on.


He ruled his people well and peole liked him. He stood against any opposition and led his people to victory in the period of wars (ogwu). As time went by, he was taken to be a ‘god’ because his name means ‘somebody that came from the Lord or God’, and also for that fact he was not linked with an earthly father, that is no paternal or even maternal linkage. Earlier on he decided not to disclose his identity because he feared being deported.
All these accounted for the people’s belief that Oduduwa descended from heaven with a chain and landed at Ile-Ife. These were just human imaginations of a man without an earthly background. The strongest reason could still be the meaning of his name. “Oodu-duwa” “Odu” in Igala refers to “Masters” as in slave and master “My Lord” Odumi. Using bio chronological dating, these event took place at about 2,000 (two thousand) years ago. The belief by some Yorubas that Oduduwa descended from heaven and landed in Ile-Ife was a myth, which should be discouraged. It is unrealistic for the story to be told and believed by anybody.


If it were possible, Christ and Prophets (Messengers of God) would have come from heaven the same way it was said Oduduwa came. There’s nobody on earth that ever descended from heaven, even Satan; and all his spiritual beings only manifest in darkness or in secret because the whole world was given to the sons of man to dominate and inherit.


That is why other spiritual beings chosen to come to the world through man or carry their activities through man. One of the reasons why the people believed he came from heaven apart from the fact that his name depicted a man that came from God was that, his name was the only name, which is impossible to establish his father’s name.

The people spread so vast and were so blessed. Oduduwa’s reputation also spread all around. They were never defeated in any war. His vast knowledge in the use of ifa (originally an Igala invention) was of a great help to him, because it is believed that Ifa foresees or discerns the future and provides solutions to many problems. As time progressed, his people (Binis) heard about his fame and sent delegates to Ile-Ife. They recognized and confirmed that it was Ekalederan, the prince of Benin royal family who ran away from home many years ago. Surprisingly, the name has changed from Ekalederan to Oduduwa.


He had many children. The first-born was Okobi meaning in Igala that “I gave birth to him on the farm” (Oko ubi). Anybody that ran away from home is referred to by our people that he ran into the farm or bush. Another one called Oramnyan (Olami nyo) meaning, “my body is good”. This was to describe how favoured and lucky he was in foreign land.


His people begged him to come Benin and rule them again in order to regain the chance he lost to becoming the Oba of Benin. He refused on account of old age. However, he agreed to send one of his sons Oraminyan (the last born) to rule them as Oba of Benin.
Oraminyan then left Ile-Ife and became the Oba of Benin. This was under a mutual understanding and cordial arrangement in compensation to the same position he lost. It was not done through any war. But when he came to Benin as the new Oba, the first problem was communication. There was a serious language problem.

The new Oba could not speak Bini (Edo) language. The story making news was the language he was speaking. The echo of answers to the query was that “he was speaking the mother’s tongues” that is; it was “Iye Oba’s language”. The mother of Oraminyan was an Igala woman (oduduwa wife). Bini (Edo) word for mother is “Iye” language (ewo), Oba (King). When we combine these Bini (Edo) words together, - “Iye” “ewo” “Oba”, we then have Yoruba.

Yoruba people call themselves ‘YOOBA’ having the same sound with Bini words. This is how Yoruba language came about. Up till today Bini (Edo) still call Yoruba people as Iyoba (Oba’s mother). The Igala call Yoruba as Iyaji from an exclamative reaction; Iye ajji! Meaning’ “the mother cannot”.


After the abolition of slave trade in 1807, by Williams Wilberforce, slaves were returned from Europe and America to Africa. They were dumped at the coastal lines of West Africa. The Government of Great Britain set up British Royal Navy to monitor the stoppage of slave business. Since 1807 to 1831, the Royal Navy was on the Atlantic Ocean to enforce compliance of the abolition. Some were liberated from the human cargo ship on their way to America and Europe. The returnees were so large that they formed a country called Liberia with its capital at Freetown. Those they dropped around areas like Ghana, Ivory Coast and others on the shorelines formed the various countries we have in West Africa today. Those that were dropped in Badagry and Lagos areas infiltrated into Yorubas and made the population of Yorubas higher than any other ethnic group in Nigeria therefore becoming a threat to the Igalas, the only most powerful kingdom in Nigeria after defeating their brothers; Jukuns and Benin Kingdom. Rumours started carrying it that Yorubas would invade Idah because of their massacre population, the response was that, we are their mothers, mothers cannot do that! (Awa chiyema; Iya ajji). Interestingly, Hausa, Nupe and Egbira called them Iyaji or Eyagi. That is to say Hausa later had contact with Yorubas after Igala had named them. Iye (mother) is common to Igala, Yoruba and Edo.


This research work took our team to the palace of Alafin Oyo where it was confirmed that the mother of Oraminyan was an Igala woman from Nupe land. Oraminyan continued to rule Binis until he was dissatisfied with them. Apart from the language problem he discovered that the people were full with many troubles. He (Oraminyan) left Benin to Oyo where he founded the Oyo Empire then became the Alaafin. Alaafin stool is number one ruler in the whole of Yoruba land.


It is not in contention that Yorubas are the most populous single ethnic group in Nigeria. Yoruba language is spoken in some countries in West Africa. Yoruba culture spread in Nigeria and even far into the Caribbean country of Cuba. Ile-Ife is regarded as the spiritual home of Yoruba race. Oduduwa transferred and conferred the mantleship of leadership to Oraminyan and back him up spiritually from Ile-Ife before he died.
There was a war which he needed assistance for full confidence of victory. He had to contact his brother Sango to come and help him fight the war. Sango came, assisted him in fighting the war to victory and he was being worshipped as a ‘god’. The wife of Sango’ Iyemoja meaning in Igala; “the mother of large group of people”, became river goddess.


There are indigenous Igala in Lagos state called Isaleko. Their major occupation was fishing. They were Igalas from Nupe land. In fact, each time I meet with them, I felt being at home with my people. I saw love and brotherliness in them.
Nobody told them about all these before. They didn’t know what Igala means. They thought it was just a name of the town. They admitted that these events took place very long time ago.


Igalas are also called; Gara, Agalawa, Gala, Igarra, Egarra, Igira, Ibaji, Akpoto, Koto, Angola, Lingala, Dan garra, Gaa, Gana, and so on. Other Igala groups bearing different identities are; Idoma, Egbira (Ebira), Agatu, Igede, Agilla, Ogoja (Iyalla) Itshekiri, Nupe, Bassa. The Igala senior brothers, with whom Igalas had a very strong tie, were Jukuns (Apa) and Binis. At one time or the other, these groups provided some leadership roles before Igala’s Independence. Bachama of Adamawa State and Tarok of Plateau State are some of our close brothers. Most of the ethnic minorities of the whole Middle belt and North and Southern regions related with one another.


Few similarities between Yoruba and Igala language

English > Yoruba > Igala
Amen > ase > ache
Arrow > ofa > ofa
Barn (store house) > aka > aka
Battle > ogun > ogwu
Beans > ewa > egwa
Bitterness > ikoro > rikoko
Black > dudu > edudu
Breast > oya/omu > enya
Blood > eje > ebie
Bone > egun > ogwugwu/achiku
Box > apoti > akpati
Bird > eye > ewe
Build > ko > ko
Cake > akara > akara
Canoe oko-ojuomi oko-eju omi
Clock > ago > agogo
Cock > akuko > aiko
Come> wa > wa
Cough > iko > uko
Court > ile-ejo > unyi-ajo
Crocodile > oni > onye
Dance > ijo > ido
Days > ojo > ojo
Dead > oku > ukwu
Divide > pi > kpe
Dying-children > abiku > abikwu
Dog > aja > abia
Drug > ogun > ogwu
Ear > eti > eti
Eye > oju > eju
Count > ka > kaluka
Feather iye iwe
Female > obirin > onobule
Finger > ika > anyiga
Fire > ina > una
Fish > eja > eja
Flesh > eran-ara > oro-ela
Flute > fere > ufele
Food > ounje > ooje
Fowl > adiye > ajuwe
Freedom > ominira > ominolami
Go > lo > lo
Goat > ewure > ewo
Gong > agogo > agogo
Grave > iboji > ofoji
Guinea fowl > awo > awo
Herbalist > onisegun > achogwu
Hand > owo > owo
Head > ori > oji
He-goat > obuko > obuko
Hide > farapamo > folakpama/maja
Hoe > oko > ukoche
You > iwo > uwe
Hunger > ebi > ebi
Hunting > ode > ode
Husband > oko > oko
I want to eat > mofejeun > najenwu
Kill > pa > kpa
Knife > obe > obe
Lamb > aguto > aguto
Leg > ese > ere
Light > ina > una
Load > eru > adu
Luck > oju rere > ojile
Male > okunrin > onokele
Masquerade > eegungun > egwu
Meat > eran > ela
Moon > oshupa > ochu
Mother > iye > iye
Mouth > eenu > alu
Musician > akorin > akeli
Name > oruko > odu
Next tomorrow > otunla > otona
Nose > imu > imo
Ocean > okun > iteku
Palm tree > okpe ope > ekpe
Palm tree branches > imo ope > imaekpe
Pick > ko > ko
Police > olopa > anokpa
Prayer > adura > aduwa
Pull > fa > fa
I am ok > arami ya > olami ya
Red > pupa > ekpikpa
Ridges > ebe > ebe
Road > opopona > ona-okpakpa
Rock > apata > apata
Rope > oku > ikwu
Season > akoko/igba > egba
Shade > iboji > ubojima/olubo
Shadow > ojiji > ojiji
Shoulder > ejika > ojika
Shelter > ibu-gbe > ebu

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@Naoma


Nice to read this post from you. I some
how missed your post previously.


Please what is the SOURCE or REFERENCE for the information you
posted here stating the Igala connection with the Yoruba and Ife?

I have in my personal library a magazine called "Roots International" of August 29, 1991,
Vol.1 no.3 that hypothesised that the early Ife indigenes were of Igala ancestry and
even stated that Eri's son [Onoja and his descendants] moved into the Ife area and indicated
that the early Ife kings before Oduduwa's arrival were of Igala origin
[Names such as OPERETI, ENEWA, AWUREBE, OBA IGBO, OLOJA, IKEDU].


On the other hand while searching for some information on Igala history
in 2015, I came across a post by an elderly Ebira man on Facebook who said he was
surprised that young Igalas online did NOT realise that Igala is the UNION of
EBIRA KOTO[Apa]+AKPOTO YORUBA


DNA tests from DNAland and AfricanAncestry.com are available that can confirm/trace the
DIRECT patrilinial or paternal links in the genetic pool among the Igalas, Yorubas and Ebiras.
This is something that has to be done this century.



Cc:Olu317, laudate, macof, 9jakool, kn23h, naptu2, onuwaje, alariiwo, nisai,
oduastates, aribisala0, MasterChen,

Konquest:
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@Naoma

Nice to read this post from you.
I some how missed your post previously.

Please what is the SOURCE or REFERENCE for the information you
posted here stating the Igala connection with the Yoruba and Ife?

I have in my personal library a magazine called "Roots International" of August 29, 1991,
Vol.1 no.3 that hypothesised that the early Ife indigenes were of Igala ancestry and
even stated that Eri's son [Onoja and his descendants] moved into the Ife area and indicated
that the early Ife kings before Oduduwa's arrival were of Igala origin
[Names such as OPERETI, ENEWA, AWUREBE, OBA IGBO, OLOJA, IKEDU].


On the other hand while searching for some information on Igala history
in 2015, I came across a post by an elderly Ebira man on Facebook who said he was
surprised that young Igalas online did NOT realise that Igala is the UNION of
EBIRA KOTO[Apa]+AKPOTO YORUBA

DNA tests from DNAland and AfricanAncestry.com are available that can confirm/trace the
DIRECT patrilinial or paternal links in the genetic pool among the Igalas, Yorubas and Ebiras.
This is something that has to be done this century.


Cc:Olu317, laudate, macof, 9jakool, kn23h, naptu2, onuwaje, alariiwo, nisai,
oduastates, aribisala0, MasterChen,

Naoma blundered on “THE CONCEPTION OF ODUDUWA " because I am not just a descendant of the man but also a member of his descendants whose patrilineal side of Odu'a made great exploit. I wouldn't have responded to this if it wasn't for the respect I have for Konquest. Post here is about learning IGALA and I wouldn't loose sight of it. I am interested also in learning about Igala people and the genuine connection and not as a result of Odu'a .

Cheers.

Konquest:
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@Naoma

Nice to read this post from you.
I some how missed your post previously.

Please what is the SOURCE or REFERENCE for the information you
posted here stating the Igala connection with the Yoruba and Ife?

I have in my personal library a magazine called "Roots International" of August 29, 1991,
Vol.1 no.3 that hypothesised that the early Ife indigenes were of Igala ancestry and
even stated that Eri's son [Onoja and his descendants] moved into the Ife area and indicated
that the early Ife kings before Oduduwa's arrival were of Igala origin
[Names such as OPERETI, ENEWA, AWUREBE, OBA IGBO, OLOJA, IKEDU].


On the other hand while searching for some information on Igala history
in 2015, I came across a post by an elderly Ebira man on Facebook who said he was
surprised that young Igalas online did NOT realise that Igala is the UNION of
EBIRA KOTO[Apa]+AKPOTO YORUBA


DNA tests from DNAland and AfricanAncestry.com are available that can confirm/trace the
DIRECT patrilinial or paternal links in the genetic pool among the Igalas, Yorubas and Ebiras.
This is something that has to be done this century.


Cc:Olu317, laudate, macof, 9jakool, kn23h, naptu2, onuwaje, alariiwo, nisai,
oduastates, aribisala0, MasterChen,

Onoja is a Yoruba/Yoruboid term.

Owner/Lord of the gathering/market - which then invariably means King.

Olu317:
Naoma blundered on “THE CONCEPTION OF ODUDUWA " because I am not just a descendant of the man but also a member of his descendants whose patrilineal side of Odu'a made great exploit. I wouldn't have responded to this if it wasn't for the respect I have for Konquest. Post here is about learning IGALA and I wouldn't loose sight of it. I am interested also in learning about Igala people and the genuine connection and not as a result of Odu'a
Cheers.

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@Olu317

Thank you for your post!

I didn't see your reply in the "Mentions"
Section when I first logged in several hours
back... but it could be as a result of a little
technical glitch.


It's GOOD to know that you are
a Prince of Ile-Ife and a direct patrilineal
descendant of Odu'a! It is surreal... my
instincts earlier told me there was something
special about you from your very deep
socio-cultural/near-esoteric posts
on NL.


Nairaland is one of
the best global Websites/online fora that
have made
it more efficient to make deep contacts with REAL people and this is why I haven't ditched
Nairaland since 2005 when I started using
this online discussion forum!


I observed several etymological DISCREPANCIES in the article posted by @Naoma as well and that is the REASON
why I asked for his "Source or Reference" for
the article which he obviously copied and
pasted from another Website/Blog on
this thread.


@Olu317, you must have also observed
that I posted the alleged
names of some kings in Ife [pre-Odu'a dynasty]
from the 1991 magazine [Roots International] which the Editor hypothesized are of IGALA origin.

The names of the kings again are: [OPERETI, ENEWA, AWUREBE, OBA IGBO, OLOJA, IKEDU]. These
are the names the 1991 magazine Editor
said were of IGALA and Ibo origin. Since 1991,
I have been restless and seeking to know
more about the IGALAS most especially.

I'm glad that as a bonafide Ife Prince, YOU can CONFIRM whether the above is TRUE or NOT based on your
knowledge of cultural/historic events in Ife [The
Source].


If I can digitally SCAN the "Roots International" magazine and historical
articles I have in my archives to high picture
resolutions, then I will share them with
YOU on this thread or on one of your personal threads which I have been steadily reading.

A lot is not being done in schools to
educate the young ones about most of
the current histories[NOT Social Studies
myths] of the people of
Nigeria that
have been known among an "inner circle" of historians
except you carry out your own independent
reading/investigations like Sherlock
Holmes.


I remember that Professor Jide Osuntokun[Nigeria's former Ambassador to
Germany and iconic UNILAG Professor of History]
emphasized in a 2004 article that there were several
"autochtonous" communities in Ife, Akure and other parts of Yorubaland before the great Odu'a Dynasty came into existence and revolutionize the political and cultural makeup of Yorubaland via the powerful kingship systems such as
the evolution of the Oyo Empire [Oyo evolved
into a strong Empire as a result of the mastery of long-distance
trading and the building of a strong calvary
of horses and military men].

He also gave the REAL definition of
Oduduwa [Odu + Iwa]. He emphasized
that the rise of a new Ruling Dynasty should
NOT be equated with the ORIGIN of people
using Ife as an example.


I have NO doubt that the Yoruba and Igala are
close cousins and share direct genetic ties
and the 65% of Yoruba words in Igala language
is NOT as a result of contact via trading
activities that someone suggested earlier on this
thread. In fact CONSULTATIONS with IFA
is made by Ifa Priests before an Attah is chosen from
one of four Ruling Houses in Idah - this is what
HRM Attah Michael Ameh Oboni of Igalaland
said in the 2-page interview he granted to
Saturday Punch of August 26, 2017.


A gentleman of Igala origin also confirmed
to me in 2015 that in his area of Igalaland,
WATER is called "OMI" just like in Yorubaland.
It looked and sounded so surreal to me when I heard
him say so.


This does NOT mean that Igalas don't
share strong cultural and some linguistic ties with Idomas, Jukuns, and Edos along the
border areas. In fact if you look at a map
online or offline, the Igala capital of Idah directly faces Agenebode
in Edo and they are both ONLY separated by
the RIVER NIGER!


All the BEST and do have a GREAT weekend
@Olu317.



PS. This thread was created for those who want
to learn Igala language, but then the references
to Igala history and the Igala relationship with
neighboring ethnicities such Yoruba, Bini, Idoma,
Ebira, Jukun, etc, CANNOT be avoided from
time to time on this thread.

scholes0:
Onoja is a Yoruba/Yoruboid term.

Owner/Lord of the gathering/market - which then invariably means King.

^^^^^^
^^^^^^
@Scholes0


Thanks for the info on Onoja!
Oja is market in Yoruba.

Onoja in full is not a name you get
to hear in Yorubaland. Please correct
me if I'm wrong, or does this have something
to do with Eastern Yoruba dialectic
variations?

Onoja is a name that is popular
in Igala axis. Lawrence Onoja, a retired army General bears that name as a surname.


All the best!

Konquest:
^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^
@Olu317

Thank you for your post!

I didn't see your reply in the "Mentions"
Section when I first logged in several hours
back... but it could be as a result of a little
technical glitch.


It's GOOD to know that you are
a Prince of Ile-Ife and a direct patrilineal
descendant of Odu'a! It is surreal... my
instincts earlier told me there was something
special about you from your very deep
socio-cultural/near-esoteric posts
on NL.


Nairaland is one of
the best global Websites/online fora that
have made
it more efficient to make deep contacts with REAL people and this is why I haven't ditched
Nairaland since 2005 when I started using
this online discussion forum!


I observed several etymological DISCREPANCIES in the article posted by @Naoma as well and that is the REASON
why I asked for his "Source or Reference" for
the article which he obviously copied and
pasted from another Website/Blog on
this thread.


@Olu317, you must have also observed
that I posted the alleged
names of some kings in Ife [pre-Odu'a dynasty]
from the 1991 magazine [Roots International] which the Editor hypothesized are of IGALA origin.

The names of the kings again are: [OPERETI, ENEWA, AWUREBE, OBA IGBO, OLOJA, IKEDU]. These
are the names the 1991 magazine Editor
said were of IGALA and Ibo origin. Since 1991,
I have been restless and seeking to know
more about the IGALAS most especially.

I'm glad that as a bonafide Ife Prince, YOU can CONFIRM whether the above is TRUE or NOT based on your
knowledge of cultural/historic events in Ife [The
Source].


If I can digitally SCAN the "Roots International" magazine and historical
articles I have in my archives to high picture
resolutions, then I will share them with
YOU on this thread or on one of your personal threads which I have been steadily reading.

A lot is not being done in schools to
educate the young ones about most of
the current histories[NOT Social Studies
myths] of the people of
Nigeria that
have been known among an "inner circle" of historians
except you carry out your own independent
reading/investigations like Sherlock
Holmes.


I remember that Professor Jide Osuntokun[Nigeria's former Ambassador to
Germany and iconic UNILAG Professor of History]
emphasized in a 2004 article that there were several
"autochtonous" communities in Ife, Akure and other parts of Yorubaland before the great Odu'a Dynasty came into existence and revolutionize the political and cultural makeup of Yorubaland via the powerful kingship systems such as
the evolution of the Oyo Empire [Oyo evolved
into a strong Empire as a result of the mastery of long-distance
trading and the building of a strong calvary
of horses and military men].

He also gave the REAL definition of
Oduduwa [Odu + Iwa]. He emphasized
that the rise of a new Ruling Dynasty should
NOT be equated with the ORIGIN of people
using Ife as an example.


I have NO doubt that the Yoruba and Igala are
close cousins and share direct genetic ties
and the 65% of Yoruba words in Igala language
is NOT as a result of contact via trading
activities that someone suggested earlier on this
thread. In fact CONSULTATIONS with IFA
is made by Ifa Priests before an Attah is chosen from
one of four Ruling Houses in Idah - this is what
HRM Attah Michael Ameh Oboni of Igalaland
said in the 2-page interview he granted to
Saturday Punch of August 26, 2017.


A gentleman of Igala origin also confirmed
to me in 2015 that in his area of Igalaland,
WATER is called "OMI" just like in Yorubaland.
It looked and sounded so surreal to me when I heard
him say so.


This does NOT mean that Igalas don't
share strong cultural and some linguistic ties with Idomas, Jukuns, and Edos along the
border areas. In fact if you look at a map
online or offline, the Igala capital of Idah directly faces Agenebode
in Edo and they are both ONLY separated by
the RIVER NIGER!


All the BEST and do have a GREAT weekend
@Olu317.



PS. This thread was created for those who want
to learn Igala language, but then the references
to Igala history and the Igala relationship with
neighboring ethnicities such Yoruba, Bini, Idoma,
Ebira, Jukun, etc, CANNOT be avoided from
time to time on this thread.

There are different account from different researchers because the search for the authentic account is still far fetched as it relates to Yoruba history, which Adimlia /Odua played part during the growth of the group . To be honest, Ikedu is not a king but a form of oral language spoken in ILE IFE from which there were account of older kings that existed before Oranmiyan emerged. And odua Admilia/Adimula,/Adimunia was somewhere the 44th king, because it was during the 46th king that Oranmiyan entered back into ILE IFE to challenge Obalufon who eventually stepped down. The point here is that ILE IFE was very important as it was a cosmopolitan city and some people lived there as at that time who were of different groups but two groups were more prominent,who were the priest lineage leader and the princely lineage group. The distortion today is as a result of inconsistency of the oral narrators because of egocentrism, which has made mockery of Africa history. On the names you referred is partly a problem because Yoruba researchers didn't accept it in the first place that ILE IFE had been moved to several location, which has been said to be eight ( places until recently. This definitely mean that Yoruba had mingled with different tribes before the mastery of survival within the deep forested environ. And there are modern information to buttress if indeed the mentioned Leaders you accounted were Rulers in ILE IFE, which if truly DNA ought to have acknowledged them as ILE IFE 's people. Even today, Oore Otun acknowledge that they were foreigners (according to their account, Oore history did mentioned that they emerged through the sea) and odua accepted them. And at every passing on to the great beyond of each Ooni ,Oore Otun Ekiti is the one that reveals such information to the public domain culturally. Igala is practically related to Yoruba, the same way Tapa (Nupe) people. Lastly DNA has proof of strong ties of Yoruba people and many part of the world.

Olu

What can you tell me about the dialectal variants of oyinbo in Eastern Yorubaland?

P

Olu317:
There are different account from different researchers because the search for the authentic account is still far fetched as it relates to Yoruba history, which Adimlia /Odua played part during the growth of the group .


To be honest, Ikedu is not a king but a form of oral language spoken in ILE IFE from which there were account of older kings that existed before Oranmiyan emerged. And odua Admilia/Adimula,/Adimunia was somewhere the 44th king, because it was during the 46th king that Oranmiyan entered back into ILE IFE to challenge Obalufon who eventually stepped down. The point here is that ILE IFE was very important as it was a cosmopolitan city and some people lived there as at that time who were of different groups but two groups were more prominent,who were the priest lineage leader and the princely lineage group. The distortion today is as a result of inconsistency of the oral narrators because of egocentrism, which has made mockery of Africa history.


On the names you referred is partly a problem because Yoruba researchers didn't accept it in the first place that ILE IFE had been moved to several location, which has been said to be eight ( places until recently. This definitely mean that Yoruba had mingled with different tribes before the mastery of survival within the deep forested environ. And there are modern information to buttress if indeed the mentioned Leaders you accounted were Rulers in ILE IFE, which if truly DNA ought to have acknowledged them as ILE IFE 's people. Even today, Oore Otun acknowledge that they were foreigners (according to their account, Oore history did mentioned that they emerged through the sea) and odua accepted them.


And at every passing on to the great beyond of each Ooni ,Oore Otun Ekiti is the one that reveals such information to the public domain culturally. Igala is practically related to Yoruba, the same way Tapa (Nupe) people. Lastly DNA has proof of strong ties of Yoruba people and many part of the world.

^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
@Olu317

Thank you for the brilliant response!
I have read your post twice and I will
read it again.


Thanks for clarifying what "Ikedu" means.


I will see how to scan those documents
and articles from my historical archival
materials and send them to YOU via
Nairaland. I know Sango's mother was
a Nupe or Tapa by the name of Yemoja
and is revered in the Diaspora as well
in places like Brazil and Cuba within
the Yoruba religion and culture communities
in those countries where she is known
as Yemaya!




Thanks again and stay blessed!

You can make a book with this.

Silumi:
Why is it not ufedo

Silumi... What's the meaning of this name?

zenith4biz:
Silumi... What's the meaning of this name?

It's a nickname.not a real one.an acronym actually

Silumi:
It's a nickname.not a real one.an acronym actually

It will be a great pleasure knowing the real one. Happy new year dear, wishing you all the best

zenith4biz:
It will be a great pleasure knowing the real one. Happy new year dear, wishing you all the best

UFEDO. Happy new year

Silumi:
UFEDO. Happy new year

Ufedo means love

And God is love

May the love of God radiate your life this year, your presence will command God's favour. Goodness and mercy shall follow you all the days of your life in Jesus name

zenith4biz:
Ufedo means love

And God is love

May the love of God radiate your life this year, your presence will command God's favour. Goodness and mercy shall follow you all the days of your life in Jesus name

Amen.you just used my name to pray for me lol

Silumi:
Amen.you just used my name to pray for me lol

Your name will work for you this year, I sent you a pm

Konquest:
Thank you for the brilliant response!
I have read your post twice and I will
read it again.

Thanks for clarifying what "Ikedu" means.

I will see how to scan those documents and articles from my historical archival materials and send them to YOU via Nairaland. I know Sango's mother was a Nupe or Tapa by the name of Yemoja and is revered in the Diaspora as well in places like Brazil and Cuba within the Yoruba religion and culture communities in those countries where she is known as Yemaya!

Thanks again and stay blessed!

Yep...the story about the origins of Sango's mother is widely known....

https://neuronmocap.com/sites/default/files/styles/home_blog_image/public/b1.png?itok=JD5Gj4ZS

Amoma iye igala mewola odo itito

HabibGwen230:
I'm proudly an igala babe 4rm Ayingba

Omaye agba ugbo uwe dodoi?