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Most Christians idol worshippers but they don't know because they wait for their pastors to interpret the Bible for them

Exodus 20:4

"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below".But they proceeded by carving the image of Jesus and worship it.

Hell fire is waiting for most of them

danvon:
what he's trying to say is that Catholic recite beads like Muslims they have series of prayers like Muslims they use to kill non Catholics infact Catholic church and Islamist have been fighting for centuries they have Latin sub for Arabic in Islam but d idol part Islam won that

Pardon? Were you writing to me or to yourself? I grasped nothing. No offense, bro.

NwaAmaikpe:



Both are worshipping idols.
Only that the one kneeling to the statue of virgin Mary is too irate, dogmatic and self-righteous to even know he is worshipping an idol.

With that said, I'm so sure Catholics won't make heaven.
They worship graven images,
They don't read the bible,
They interfere with the dead.

Catholics are closer to Islam than they are to Christianity.
https://www.nairaland.com/3909943/similarities-between-catholicism-islam-pics

Muslims don’t carry pictures on their chest not to talk of bowing to idols. Its forbidden. U mumu small.

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There is a factory somewhere mixing materials to be used in moulding a statute that will be worshipped by Catholics.

Shrine, altar? It is a matter of semantics. Give it to oyibo, they know how to make things appealing to the eyes.

Every religion is the same. The higher one goes on the food chain, the murkier it becomes. Only the ones on the lowest level are dedicated to the dogma.

Up until 1791, church was politics and politics was church. The separation thereafter became necessary for obvious reasons. Thanks for the likes of Thomas Jefferson. Religious organizations especially Catholics are not anywhere near as innocent as third world citizens of the world were coerced to believe. Ever wonder why there are practically no black Catholics in USA. Catholic church supported slavery and American blacks failed to identify with them.

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I'll remain a catholic til eternity. Peter up on dis rock i'll build my church & d gate of hell wil neva prevail against it.

Haters everywhere

greendemocrats:
Only the catholic church existed for 1500years after the death of Jesus Christ untill man-made churches started with the intention to swindle humanity of its hard eaemed money

This clearly shows that you know nothing about church history. Go and read about Church history , you will see more light. Was the church in the days of the apostles Catholic?
When Peter died, he was buried and a cathedral was built on him.
And when the Roman Catholic was persecuting other Christians, those ones were holding meetings secretly.
There are lots to read about. There were even times when you have more than one pope, fighting each other.
Those years were referred to as the dark ages, that was when the church went into full time apostasy.

those Muslims shouting we don't worship idol, d quoran is an object,cos its a book .it is matter.matter is anything that has weight and occupies space, are u saying if I should burn a copy of the quoran as a Christian and upload it online my life would remain safe?

greendemocrats:
Only the catholic church existed for 1500years after the death of Jesus Christ untill man-made churches started with the intention to swindle humanity of its hard eaemed money

Roman catholic church was the foretold weed representing false religion a seed planted by d devil to disrupt true religion which was foretold by d apostles.Acts 20:29,30. Catholic church which was d dominant religion of the pagan Roman Empire was the beginning of apostasy from the true christian faith.
Read Matthew 13:24-30.

danvon:
Jesus was from Galilee not rome

Rome didn't like the Jesus from Galille, and they killed his followers. When he continued to get popular they swapped the identity of the Jesus from Galilee and replaced it with Roman Jesus- Cesare Bogia.

Its like your enemy won a Betnaija lotterry of 1 Billion Naira, and he was to go cash the money tomorrow. But, this night you went and stole the ticket from him and jailed him, went to Betnaija, presented yourself as the winner and collected the money. Now, when people are asked; who won the lottery? They'll think its you, because they don't realize they've been an identity theft.

The person presented to you as Jesus from Galille is actually Cesare Bogia, not the real Jesus.

If you still don't understand it, go to google and search ''the lost history'' and follow an article by www.africason.com, there's a documentary at the bottom of the article that throws more light.

iSlayer:
Allow me politely decline. I'm exhausted and off to bed. Have a blessed night's rest.

Aight.... Sleep safe...

but muslims pray while counting beads just like rosary can someone explain this, bead counting

Slaveman343:
Don't pick straws now. Shebi you were fooling yourself saying catholic is the root of christianity. You think you are smart abi. You know that the catholic church is full of rot and devoid of common sense and you want to use magu magu to claim that that's where Christianity came out from so that people would not take christianity serious since its supposed foundation is rotten and bloody.

Get a bible and see how it disappoints you in all shades. No trace to catholicism. You cant force it. I'm sure those terrible catholic monks regretted not daring to rewrite the bible. Theirs would have had Jesus replaced with mary. Too late!

My friend. I laugh because you don't seem to get it.

Asking me to read the bible to substantiate your ignorant beliefs is like asking me to read a book of children's fairy tales to substantiate the authenticity of the Toothfairy, or that books on Santa Clause is proof of the divine provenance of Santa Clause .

The bible is not history , and was composed, compiled and packaged by the very Catholic folks that you disparage so much.
Duuhhh!!
That is the simple ironic point that seems to elude you.

I won't just comment cus am a Catholic... and.... we dont worship idols

CAPSLOCKED:

EXPLAIN??

Check on my last reply to that guy. If you need more info follow the instruction therein.

Stick to your idols bro and I also will stick to my Virgin Mary whom I have so much love and respect for. To non Catholics, keep your opinion to yourself coz we Catholics know who she is to us and the role she plays continually in our strive to inherit the kingdom of God.

musicwriter:
Christianity as a whole is idolatory. Exodus 20:4.

Worse is that they worship a whiteman called Jesus who didn't even exist.
There's no such person in the history of the world called Jesus Christ.


However, there was a kind black man called Yehshua or Yehoshua who lived about 2017 years ago. He was the poor people's hero, always challenging injustice and oppression of the government of his day.

Fast forward.................

When Rome hijacked Christianity in 312 AD, they didn't like the black protagonist in the ancient stories, so Pope Alexander VI went ahead to invent a fake white Jesus- Cesare Borgia who was his son. Ever since then Christians have been worshipping this man, totally without realizing they've been short changed.

Thank you. Someone that knows his onions

musicwriter:
The Jesus Muslims are talking about is not the same Jesus you're talking about.

For instance, Muslism don"t believe the real Jesus was born of a virgin, they don't believe he is their saviour.

Muslims believe in the real Jesus who was black, but you believe in a fake Jesus. Rome conducted the greatest identity theft in the history of the world.

Until you understand the Jesus you believe was invented, you'll never understand this.

We believe he was born of a virgin.
The Qur'an describes that an angel appeared to Mary, to announce to her the "gift of a holy son" (19:19). She was astonished at the news, and asked: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" (19:20). When the angel explained to her that she had been chosen for the service of God and that God had ordained the matter, she devoutly submitted herself to His will.

We honor Jesus more and believe he wasn’t crucified as Allah replaced him with a like image and raised him up to heaven until his return.

Quran 4 verse 157.
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

Even though the description of Jesus by Prophet Muhammad saw clearly shows he wasnt caucasian white as depicted in the movies and images used by Christians, we do not bother about his race. That is insignificant as God only looks at your piety and not your color.

There are so many more things about his life in the Quran and sayings of the prophet.

BafanaBafana:
Not just Catholics but the whole christianity is polluted with false doctrines. One of which is the Trinity. If you believe in the Trinity, then you believe Jesus is God, then you also have to believe Mary is the mother of God and she should be worshipped also.

As a Jehovah’s Witness, I do not believe in the Trinity. It is a false doctrine

Mohammed self

dataking:
We believe he was born of a virgin.
The Qur'an describes that an angel appeared to Mary, to announce to her the "gift of a holy son" (19:19). She was astonished at the news, and asked: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" (19:20). When the angel explained to her that she had been chosen for the service of God and that God had ordained the matter, she devoutly submitted herself to His will.

We honor Jesus more and believe he wasn’t crucified as Allah replaced him with a like image and raised him up to heaven until his return.

Quran 4 verse 157.
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

Even though the description of Jesus by Prophet Muhammad saw clearly shows he wasnt caucasian white as depicted in the movies and images used by Christians, we do not bother about his race. That is insignificant as God only looks at your piety and not your color.

The Jesus of the bible was killed. So, you're certainly not talking about the bible Jesus.

plaetton:
My friend. I laugh because you don't seem to get it.

Asking me to read the bible to substantiate your ignorant beliefs is like asking me to read a book of children's fairy tales to substantiate the authenticity of the Toothfairy, or that books on Santa Clause is proof of the divine provenance of Santa Clause .

The bible is not history , and was composed, compiled and packaged by the very Catholic folks that you disparage so much.
Duuhhh!!
That is the simple ironic point that seems to elude you.

when it's time to play pranks I might just seek you out for now I am sticking with facts and logic not rhetorics. Good night

To all unbelievers, if not understanding Arabic is your excuse.. Please go find urself an English Translated Quran and Read.. Islam is peace .. Islam teaches/ preaches you to do good always and forbid anything evil.. Read. Read Read and enlighten/ help and purify your soul... The Quran is the Truth. Don't be deceived by the fake magicians, evil Jinns (devils) lead by Ilblis.(Satan) and wicked people out there bent on leading people astray.

.. There is only one Allah (God)

Prophet Isa. <A.S> (Jesus) is not the son of God but a messenger of Allah and he was only sent to Bani Israel not the world .

Prophet Mohammed (S .A.W) is the seal of Prophethood and messenger of Allah sent to the world.


Sigh..Just go get yourself a English Translated Quran and Read. May Allah Guide you to the right path.

osazsky:
but muslims pray while counting beads just like rosary can someone explain this, bead counting

Beads are insignificant in Islam. Its just to keep count of praises. Like Glory be to Allah 33 times. All praises due to Allah 33 times Allah is the greatest 34times.

You can decide to use your fingers to count or anything you so desire.

musicwriter:
The Jesus of the bible was killed. So, you're certainly not talking about the bible Jesus.

Of course. Am not talking of the bible Jesus but the real undistorted Jesus not the one the romans twisted history and falsified stories about.

U re very right... the Bible as it is, is Said to be in two testaments;the old n the new, with the coming of yeshua (the man u call christ) certain portions of the old testament just existed for the purposes of reference, rebuke, among others.. That explains why animal sacrifice was a practice for sanctity n purification in the old testament yet is not applicable in this age... Mode of worship n communication is even better explained by considering what is termed as "Dispensations of the Bible" ;it all began with Yaweh speaking directly to our fathers n the vice-versa, thus Adam n Abraham, this was the Patriarchal age...With time Yaweh saw that the population of the earth was expanding n hence could not move from one household to the other just to speak to one father to the next n hence selected a mouthpiece, that's is a single prophet who will convey n relay what He instructs to the fathers, hence starting with Moses, the Mosical age or the era of the prophets began.... Again it got to a time that Yaweh saw that he no longer wanted His message going thru a 2nd party b4 it gets to His children hence the Christian age began where Yaweh speaks directly n individually to his children n the children to him without having to pass through any medium... Hence the era of the prophets is ended as well as any images or emissaries with the coming of Yeshua (u may call him christ, his pseudo name). Prophecy n prophets of the new testament represent teaching n teachers respectively which is entirely different in the meaning given to them in the old testament.

dataking:
Of course. Am not talking of the bible Jesus but the real undistorted Jesus not the one the romans twisted history and falsified stories about.

Its ok, as long as you know that.

NwaAmaikpe:

Both are worshipping idols.
Only that the one kneeling to the statue of virgin Mary is too irate, dogmatic and self-righteous to even know he is worshipping an idol.

With that said, I'm so sure Catholics won't make heaven.
They worship graven images,
They don't read the bible,
They interfere with the dead.

Catholics are closer to Islam than they are to Christianity.
https://www.nairaland.com/3909943/similarities-between-catholicism-islam-pics

Are the penterascals any different?
Don’t they worship their pastors and read his pamphlets, sermons, books instead of studying their Bible, which is a COMPLETE book of life?
Otherwise, they will not be sheeple to their thieving gods of men who are scamming them for tithes, first seeds, funding schools that are not heavily subsidised.
Idols are not only graven images.

osazsky:
those Muslims shouting we don't worship idol, d quoran is an object,cos its a book .it is matter.matter is anything that has weight and occupies space, are u saying if I should burn a copy of the quoran as a Christian and upload it online my life would remain safe?

Dont be foolish. Quran is a book. Guidance. Do you see us worshipping it? Stop being foolish. I see you are trying so hard.

Slaveman343:
when it's time to play pranks I might just seek you out for now I am sticking with facts and logic not rhetorics. Good night

You too have a good night.
I hope you wake up more enriched with the history of the Christianity.
My small contribution to society.

dataking:
Dont be foolish. Quran is a book. Guidance. Do you see us worshipping it? Stop being foolish. I see you are trying so hard.

I am sure that many Muslims also worship their imams hence the diversity of denominations and the infighting among them.
ORGANISED religion is a fraud.

seguno2:
I am sure that many Muslims also worship their imams hence the diversity of denominations and the infighting among them.
ORGANISED religion is a fraud.

Worship imam? Dude, no one does that. I am an imam, any muslim is an imam. Anyone who leads the prayer is an imam. So why will muslims worship equals. Yes, there are a few misguided muslims. But they don’t represent Islam.