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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:46pm On Dec 08, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Aina is not looking too sure for Russia contingent unless if Rohr will try him at right back. As it stands , Ebuehi is ahead of Aina , Idowu is a natural left back and I can bet you Rohr is not dropping Echiejile.
Idowu is not a natural left back but a solid RB,i watched him against Rostov on the right side,though versatile like Aina and Ebuhei.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:46pm On Dec 08, 2017
Kog45:
Enyeama Vincent is not coming back even if he get club as No 1 keeper in January,better for us to concentrate on Uzoho, Ezenwa, Akpeyi, Ajiboye,Alampasu and Okoye.

I sincerely don't want him back.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:48pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon79:
Please closely watch Victor Moses when he plays for Chelsea versus when he plays for Nigeria. Let me tell you what you'd find:
He's still holding onto the ball too long when he plays for Nigeria, he doesn't do that in Chelsea. Granted he's playing in a different role.
He still engages in excessive dribbling when he plays for Nigeria, maybe not as bad as before but he still does that, but he has learned to release the ball promptly when he plays for Chelsea. Again, we gotta consider that he's playing in a different role at Chelsea.

Furthermore, and most importantly, it doesn't make a lot of sense to deploy your best and most creative player as a Wingback. He should be deployed in the final third creating and scoring goals. That's just like Chelsea playing Eden Hazard as RWB or Barca playing Messi in that role. Moses should have a free role in the midfield ... we need his trademark dribbles runs and incisive passes to unlock tight defenses.


O pari

He dazzled with all these attributes against African teams in Afcon, but how did he fare against world cup teams with quality defenses in 2014?

To unlock sturdy defenses, you need quick incisive exchange of passes like what we saw against Argentina, not the acts of holding the ball for long and making excessive dribbles. A good defense may keep such a player from scoring or causing major havoc.

We have friendlies coming up, so the coach should play him as a wing back in one of those games or more and lets really see how he will fare before the world cup proper.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 5:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
blueto:
He dazzled with all these attributes against African teams in Afcon, but how did he fare against world cup teams with quality defenses in 2014?

To unlock sturdy defenses, you need quick incisive exchange of passes like we saw against Argentina, not the acts of holding the ball for long and making excessive dribbles. A good defense may keep such a player from scoring or causing major havoc.

We have friendlies coming up, so the coach should play him as a wing back in one of those games or more and lets really see how he will fare before the world cup proper.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 6:01pm On Dec 08, 2017
Petrobros:


So who would you rather drop?
Non will be dropped.

Na defenders go plenty pass.
Defenders:
Troost
Leon
Kenneth
Echeijile
Aina
IDOWU
Ebuehi
Shehu
Awaziem

Midfield :
<b> Mikel obi </b>
Ndidi
Ogu
Onazi
Etebo

Attack :
Victor Moses
Simon moses
Kelechi iheanacho
Alex iwobi
Henry onyekuru
Odion ighalo

Keepers :
Just fill in three names wey u like.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:05pm On Dec 08, 2017
somehow:
Mourinho of then is more successful than mourinho of now.

How?? Your first season at Manchester United, you won them their first ever Europa League trophy and the Carling cup. That sounds like success to me.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:08pm On Dec 08, 2017
kentebemoney:
Non will be dropped.
Na defenders go plenty pass. Defenders: Troost Leon Kenneth Echeijile Aina IDOWU Ebuehi Shehu Awaziem
Midfield : <b> Mikel obi </b> Ndidi Ogu Onazi Etebo
Attack : Victor Moses Simon moses Kelechi iheanacho Alex iwobi Henry onyekuru Odion ighalo
Keepers : Just fill in three names wey u like.
gringrin
9 defenders?? What are going to do in Russia really?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 6:09pm On Dec 08, 2017
blueto:
He dazzled with all these attributes against African teams in Afcon, but how did he fare against world cup teams with quality defenses in 2014?

To unlock sturdy defenses, you need quick incisive exchange of passes like what we saw against Argentina, not the acts of holding the ball for long and making excessive dribbles. A good defense may keep such a player from scoring or causing major havoc.

We have friendlies coming up, so the coach should play him as a wing back in one of those games or more and lets really see how he will fare before the world cup proper.

Moses will not play wing back for us.
E no go happen.
If we have to play a 3-5-2 formation Moses would pair Kelechi up front.

We would play without a 9 in most of our games in the World Cup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:11pm On Dec 08, 2017
Huh? Omo, do you know something we don't know? How do you know that Rohr plans to play him as a Wing Back during the upcoming friendlies? I am not doubting you .... just asking out of curiosity.


O pari

blueto:
He dazzled with all these attributes against African teams in Afcon, but how did he fare against world cup teams with quality defenses in 2014?

To unlock sturdy defenses, you need quick incisive exchange of passes like what we saw against Argentina, not the acts of holding the ball for long and making excessive dribbles. A good defense may keep such a player from scoring or causing major havoc.

We have friendlies coming up, so the coach should play him as a wing back in one of those games or more and lets really see how he will fare before the world cup proper
.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bennie1980(m): 6:12pm On Dec 08, 2017
Queens Park Rangers captain Nedum Onuoha is set to return to action after spending three months on the sidelines due to a hamstring complaint.

The versatile central defender last played for QPR against Millwall on September 12, when he had to be substituted at half-time after he tore his hamstring.

The Hoops have provided a positive update on Onuoha's injury via their official website, stating that he has resumed full training and is in contention to feature against Leeds United on Saturday, December 9.

He has been training with the first-team squad for the past fortnight and came through a 60-minute training game at Harlington on Tuesday unscathed.

Born in Warri to Nigerian parents 31 years ago, Onuoha is now ready to play for his country of birth after declining an offer to represent the Super Eagles at the 2010 World Cup.

The Manchester City product previously represented England at U20 and U21 level.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 6:12pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon79:
Please closely watch Victor Moses when he plays for Chelsea versus when he plays for Nigeria. Let me tell you what you'd find:
He's still holding onto the ball too long when he plays for Nigeria, he doesn't do that in Chelsea. Granted he's playing in a different role.
He still engages in excessive dribbling when he plays for Nigeria, maybe not as bad as before but he still does that, but he has learned to release the ball promptly when he plays for Chelsea. Again, we gotta consider that he's playing in a different role at Chelsea.

Furthermore, and most importantly, it doesn't make a lot of sense to deploy your best and most creative player as a Wingback. He should be deployed in the final third creating and scoring goals. That's just like Chelsea playing Eden Hazard as RWB or Barca playing Messi in that role. Moses should have a free role in the midfield ... we need his trademark dribbles runs and incisive passes to unlock tight defenses.


O pari


I have hammered on VicMo indiscipline and complacency on so many occasion here. I know he is the highest goal scorer during our qualifiers but have you wondered why nigga has zero influence in the team....His commitment is questionable. At chelsea fc nigga is cool headed and plays to instructions but as soon as he puts on that Nigerian shirt he basically say ffuck you all. H e can contribute to the team but remove the "NEED" part. Super Eagle can win and even play better football without Victor Moses.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 6:14pm On Dec 08, 2017
bennie1980:
Queens Park Rangers captain Nedum Onuoha is set to return to action after spending three months on the sidelines due to a hamstring complaint.

The versatile central defender last played for QPR against Millwall on September 12, when he had to be substituted at half-time after he tore his hamstring.

The Hoops have provided a positive update on Onuoha's injury via their official website, stating that he has resumed full training and is in contention to feature against Leeds United on Saturday, December 9.

He has been training with the first-team squad for the past fortnight and came through a 60-minute training game at Harlington on Tuesday unscathed.

Born in Warri to Nigerian parents 31 years ago, Onuoha is now ready to play for his country of birth after declining an offer to represent the Super Eagles at the 2010 World Cup.

The Manchester City product previously represented England at U20 and U21 level.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

Sir , can you give me a single reason why you posted this news here ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 6:14pm On Dec 08, 2017
junnyjake:


gringrin

9 defenders?? What are going to do in Russia really?
E funny ba? grin

Echeijile will not start at left back for us.

Leon. Troost. Echeijile

Shehu ndidi. ogu idowu

Mikel obi
Kelechi. Victor Moses
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:14pm On Dec 08, 2017
kentebemoney:


Moses will not play wing back for us.
E no go happen.
If we have to play a 3-5-2 formation Moses would pair Kelechi up front.

We would play without a 9 in most of our games in the World Cup.
It is about playing him in where he will be most effective in the world cup and if you have been following this thread then you will have seen the reasons why I gave such submission.

And who says Nigeria can't play without a 9 if Moses is not playing an offensive role? The last time we played such, Moses was not on the pitch, and we got a good result.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:17pm On Dec 08, 2017
kentebemoney:

E funny ba? grin

Echeijile will not start at left back for us.

Leon. Troost. Echeijile

Shehu ndidi. ogu idowu

Mikel obi
Kelechi. Victor Moses
So you would rather keep an Iwobi on bench just because you don't want Moses as WB?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 6:18pm On Dec 08, 2017
Kog45:
Idowu is not a natural left back but a solid RB,i watched him against Rostov on the right side,though versatile like Aina and Ebuhei.

I dont understand what you mean by " not a natural left back but a solid right back". Are you saying he is more comfortable playing at RB or that he uses both legs equally well ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:18pm On Dec 08, 2017
I don't think he's doing it on purpose though. He's just exceptionally skillful and often gets carried away when he starts to enjoy the game. Jay Jay Okocha was the same way. And I heard the same thing about Etim Esin though I don't really remember watching him play sha.

However, I do agree that he plays with much more discipline at Chelsea but that's because he knew that the competition at Chelsea is fierce. Any major mistake would imply a seat back on the reserve bench. I mean, you gotta be extra cautious when you have folks like Williams, Pedro etc waiting for you to make a mistake so they can pounce and take your position grin


O pari

OMANBALA1:


I have hammered on VicMo indiscipline and complacency on so many occasion here. I know he is the highest goal scorer during our qualifiers but have you wondered why nigga has zero influence in the team....His commitment is questionable. At chelsea fc nigga is cool headed and plays to instructions but as soon as he puts on that Nigerian shirt he basically say ffuck you all. H e can contribute to the team but remove the "NEED" part. Super Eagle can win and even play better football without Victor Moses.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 6:20pm On Dec 08, 2017
kentebemoney:

E funny ba? grin

Echeijile will not start at left back for us.

Leon. Troost. Echeijile

Shehu ndidi. ogu idowu

Mikel obi
Kelechi. Victor Moses

Are you gonna be using Shehu and Idowu as wing backs or what? If so, how well do you think they can adjust in that role....Remember we have tried Shehu there and it was disastrous.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:21pm On Dec 08, 2017
kentebemoney:
E funny ba? grin
Echeijile will not start at left back for us.
Leon. Troost. Echeijile
Shehu ndidi. ogu idowu
Mikel obi Kelechi. Victor Moses

I get you.
But the way I de see am ehn. Rorh no go like pack pass 7 defenders o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:22pm On Dec 08, 2017
blueto:
He dazzled with all these attributes against African teams in Afcon, but how did he fare against world cup teams with quality defenses in 2014?

To unlock sturdy defenses, you need quick incisive exchange of passes like what we saw against Argentina, not the acts of holding the ball for long and making excessive dribbles. A good defense may keep such a player from scoring or causing major havoc.

We have friendlies coming up, so the coach should play him as a wing back in one of those games or more and lets really see how he will fare before the world cup proper.
It seems our victory against Argentina is changing our perspective on some players inclusive Victor Moses.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 2innocent(m): 6:23pm On Dec 08, 2017
I think Joel Obi and Sylvester Igboun will be good addition to our midfield
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:27pm On Dec 08, 2017
OMANBALA1:


I dont understand what you mean by " not a natural left back but a solid right back". Are you saying he is more comfortable playing at RB or that he uses both legs equally well ?
Idowu is a natural RB but sometimes does it as LB for his club though comfortable in both but more solid as RB.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:28pm On Dec 08, 2017
chrisooblog:
true but there have been periods where he has had good long periods of sustained performances for club (wigan, chelsea) and country. joel obi if fit would always be one of the first names on my team sheet but as a coach preparing for a tournament i would always have a nagging feeling at the back of my mind that i may be wasting a spot taking him along because joel is the kind of player who will start the first game, blow his hamstring then be out for the rest of the competition. real dilemma


Joel Obi also had long periods of sustained performance for Inter milan for two seasons though he spent most times on the bench the second season.

Last season, he played 11 matches before he got injured and a total of 20 games but with limited time.

His case is not different from a Roben Arten but will you drop Robben if you are the coach because of his tendency of getting injured?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:29pm On Dec 08, 2017
True. But if we are going to play with wingbacks then Idowu and Ebuehi are most likely to start.



O pari

komekn:


One game doesn't make a player it's too early to make those deductions based on one game.

Particularly as we know that as the game progresses team formation can change. For instance in the first half we were more cautious a more defensive approach. Come second half instructions had changed and it became more offensive and that's when Idowu and Ebuehi came in.

So to conclude that Shehu and Aina are now second choice is very premature and shows limited understanding of football strategy and application.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:29pm On Dec 08, 2017
But is it too late to learn how to trap ball? He wasn't the only one phased out of man city, (Yaya toure, etc), yet those ones haven't lost what they are made of.

Pep did same with Eto, toure, ibrahimovich etc at Barcelona but these players didn't diminish, I think he did same with some young players too who ended up becoming stars
kennysville:


Systematically!!!..... Imagine, the guy cant even trap ball well anymore. Ball control that is as basic to almost everyone that kicks anything in Naija. Even Grass tackling him out of the blues so tey him go fall before ball reach am. I no go forgive Pep lailai. If e like make e win champions league, fa cup and EPL join for the next 20 seasons.

Listen Iheanacho, I dey with you gidigba. Look to God almighty. Bible says he is the confidence of all the ends of the earth. You can do it. Just believe!!! O pari, finito, C'est fini.... i for add spanish join am but ehn.... e get as e be!

Tiago's career was almost ruined by one of Barca's coaches when he was there due to lack of play time even when he was supposed to be playing until he moved to Bayern, he's now a star there.

Nobody can stop anyone's shine without the permission of the person. If you're good you are good. No room for blaming, he should step up and train himself like other bests do.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:30pm On Dec 08, 2017
I think Icon 79 would be a good addition to our strikers. He can play as an out and out striker or SS.


O pari

2innocent:
I think Joel Obi and Sylvester Igboun will be good addition to our midfield

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:34pm On Dec 08, 2017
kentebemoney:

E funny ba? grin

Echeijile will not start at left back for us.

Leon. Troost. Echeijile

Shehu ndidi. ogu idowu

Mikel obi
Kelechi. Victor Moses
we can't play Leon and Echiejile in such a line-up, except you want to kill Troost.

They are slow....so, Echiejile should be replaced with Awaziem, make Troost know where him struggle go dey.

Kelechi and Iwobi have a better understanding of each other than he and Vic Mo...I would play Vic Mo as a WB.

We tried Shehu there recently and it was disastrous, so he will have to sit it out in such a formation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 6:35pm On Dec 08, 2017
Kog45:
Idowu is a natural RB but sometimes does it as LB for his club though comfortable in both but more solid as RB.

Which means Echiejile is the only natural LB we have. Not a good development and people are setting him up for wing back.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:38pm On Dec 08, 2017
Man U Europa league? And you call that a success? BTW, how did they find themselves playing Europa? Have you forgotten the same mourinho sees Europa league as a waste of time?
junnyjake:


How?? Your first season at Manchester United, you won them their first ever Europa League trophy and the Carling cup. That sounds like success to me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 6:38pm On Dec 08, 2017
Great thread, nice to be here

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