NightHound:



I don't understand......are people not allowed to air their views on this thread regarding the original post? I thought that's how Nairaland worked.

Here's an idea for the mods: there should be the option (available to users) of creating a topic to which people cannot reply. So that anyone who's arrogant enough to declare his write-up an incontrovertible treatise can use that option and count his 'likes' in peace, without dealing with the dissenting opinions that are bound to arise that could hurt his fragile ego.

noone goes to the Club and complain the volume is too high
if its too high just leave the club. if im writing hogwash then exit the thread
why are u still reading a thread that upsets you and u clearly dont agree with.arent u better supporting threads that align to your world view?
my brother?

Rubbiish:
When ever a thread is created & majority of ladies do not agree with it...Just know there are some elements of truth in it....& If all the ladies agree with a post, know there is a problem with that post...That was how God created them, always saying & wanting opposite of what is good for them....No be their fault, it is their nature...Ever wonder why Eve would leave the numerous fruits in d garden to go for what God warned her against?

Op like u rightly said, nice guys please women, but not only women, but men inclusive
The causes of being a nice guy may not necessarily stem out from the points u stated
Temperament is a major influence...
But in as much as i agree with your post, there is difference between helping a lady without any attachment, same way u will help a brother & helping a lady to get laid...

Well said

Rubbiish:
When ever a thread is created & majority of ladies do not agree with it...Just know there are some elements of truth in it....& If all the ladies agree with a post, know there is a problem with that post...That was how God created them, always saying & wanting opposite of what is good for them....No be their fault, it is their nature...Ever wonder why Eve would leave the numerous fruits in d garden to go for what God warned her against?

Op like u rightly said, nice guys please women, but not only women, but men inclusive
The causes of being a nice guy may not necessarily stem out from the points u stated
Temperament is a major influence...
But in as much as i agree with your post, there is difference between helping a lady without any attachment, same way u will help a brother & helping a lady to get laid...

input appreciated.
the Nice Guy origins story is very broad and deep.i only touched the points i can explain. but there is so much to say.and so many sides to the Nice Guys/Badboys concept.
here are a few i will explore in future posts:
1.why boys raised by single fathers rarely grow up to be Nice Guys.
2.why boys raised by their sisters with no parents present usually become the biggest Players of them all.
its all very interesting.
cheers.

ubunja:

noone goes to the Club and complain the volume is too high
if its too high just leave the club. if im writing hogwash then exit the thread
why are u still reading a thread that upsets you and u clearly dont agree with.arent u better supporting threads that align to your world view?
my brother?

It's not about support - threads can easily be supported by clicking the 'like' button. And isn't that a boring and unnecessary thread when you are only preaching to the choir?

I'm not upset by the thread. People who hold a different opinion from me don't upset me; they challenge me. Especially when they can back up their opinions intellectually. Differing opinions are the basis of an argument. That's the justification to have this topic extend beyond the original post.

The club analogy doesn't apply here. It would apply to a no-reply post, because in that case you're expected to either like it or leave it instead of making it a discussion.

NightHound:


It's not about support - threads can easily be supported by clicking the 'like' button. And isn't that a boring and unnecessary thread when you are only preaching to the choir?

I'm not upset by the thread. People who hold a different opinion from me don't upset me; they challenge me. Especially when they can back up their opinions intellectually. Differing opinions is the basis of an argument. That's the justification to have this topic extend beyond the original post.

The club apology doesn't apply here. It would apply to a no-reply post, because in that case you're expected to either like it or leave it instead of making it a discourse.

i hear you.u are not upset. and the Club analogue is whack.
but u did say you dont mind Old Horses. and that on its own sets you on the highway to Nice Guy City.
the essence of this post is for men to move away from this "Act Nice Expect Sex" mentality thats hurting them so much. coz women will take their Nice but withhold the sex.
its not fair.

NightHound:
Nice guys are created when parents instill proper values into their sons. When they teach them to value and respect people - women as well as men. When they teach them that denigrating another person does not make them taller or smarter or richer.

Nice guys aren't necessarily people pleasers. They give people respect when it is returned; and distance when it is not.

Many women may not appreciate nice guys early on in life; but eventually, when they learn to value themselves, they learn to appreciate someone who treats them right.

You can have the right values, live by them and still not be nice. It is not bad to not be nice. The only thing anybody owes anybody is to be fair to them. You can respect women and not be nice. If I refuse to stand up for a woman to sit, it doesn't mean I dont have the right values. I just don't give a shit.

Rubbiish:
When ever a thread is created & majority of ladies do not agree with it...Just know there are some elements of truth in it....& If all the ladies agree with a post, know there is a problem with that post...That was how God created them, always saying & wanting opposite of what is good for them....No be their fault, it is their nature...Ever wonder why Eve would leave the numerous fruits in d garden to go for what God warned her against?

Op like u rightly said, nice guys please women, but not only women, but men inclusive
The causes of being a nice guy may not necessarily stem out from the points u stated
Temperament is a major influence...
But in as much as i agree with your post, there is difference between helping a lady without any attachment, same way u will help a brother & helping a lady to get laid...

Personality is majorly shaped by life experiences from about a year old. One would need a major jarring experience for them to have a lasting change of perosnality.

Ladies like bad guys or averagely nice guys with bad boy tendencies. It is true good guys carry last and many times the crumbs of the bad guys this is because good guys lack an excitement most ladies crave nice boys get so good that they leave some unpredictability behind and it makes the ladies just like them and not reciprocate the gesture. A little of niceness and fierceness makes a guy stable lover though

If u being nice cos u want to sleep with a lady then in actual fact u not nice.as for me i am nice guy and i respect ladies...though i have a weakness for twerking sha.. Cc thornapple.

NightHound:



I don't understand......are people not allowed to air their views on this thread regarding the original post? I thought that's how Nairaland worked.

Here's an idea for the mods: there should be the option (available to users) of creating a topic to which people cannot reply. So that anyone who's arrogant enough to declare his write-up an incontrovertible treatise can use that option and count his 'likes' in peace, without dealing with the dissenting opinions that are bound to arise that could hurt his fragile ego.

Spot on!

lefulefu:
If u being nice cos u want to sleep with a lady then in actual fact u not nice.as for me i am nice guy and i respect ladies...though i have a weakness for twerking sha.. Cc thornapple.

actually being nice is not natural. being nice is like offering someone nice food you know has poison.but the niceness of the food will trick one into eating.

niceness is tempation. thats how the devil works. pretend to have your best interest at heart then stab you at the back when u turn around.

splinx:
Ladies like bad guys or averagely nice guys with bad boy tendencies. It is true good guys carry last and many times the crumbs of the bad guys this is because good guys lack an excitement most ladies crave nice boys get so good that they leave some unpredictability behind and it makes the ladies just like them and not reciprocate the gesture. A little of niceness and fierceness makes a guy stable lover though

i love how u keep tampering and softening the truth.
LOL the truth is women love badboys. no centreline of being bad but with a little goodness. just pure undiluted bad. anything less will get you put on the Nice Guy shelf that gets attention only when a girl reaches 35 and wana settle with her 2 kids with no fathers.
be a badboy or dont bother.Go bad or go home. coz u really cant be both
just like a woman cant be a Good Woman and a Slut at the same time. choose a side and stick with it for better for worse.

NightHound:



I don't understand......are people not allowed to air their views on this thread regarding the original post? I thought that's how Nairaland worked.

Here's an idea for the mods: there should be the option (available to users) of creating a topic to which people cannot reply. So that anyone who's arrogant enough to declare his write-up an incontrovertible treatise can use that option and count his 'likes' in peace, without dealing with the dissenting opinions that are bound to arise that could hurt his fragile ego.

I don't get as well.

Belafonte:


Personality is majorly shaped by life experiences from about a year old. One would need a major jarring experience for them to have a lasting change of perosnality.

very true. the hand that rocks the craddle controls the world. no man grows into something his mother didnt intend or wish.
and single mothers raise most Nice Guys coz they are forever saying to their sons :" dont grow up to be like your father." " respect women" . and from that time a boy's mind is biased to seek the welfare of women above his own.

ubunja:

actually being nice is not natural. being nice is like offering someone nice food you know has poison.but the niceness of the food will trick one into eating.

niceness is tempation. thats how the devil works. pretend to have your best interest at heart then stab you at the back when u turn around.

so in actual fact nice guys are not really nice.

lefulefu:
so in actual fact nice guys are not really nice.

LOOL thats the truth of the century.
Nice Guys are just using a strategy to get sex.Act Nice Get Sex.
thats all there is to it. use Pretence to get laid.badboys go the other route: use Dominance to get laid.Act Macho Get Sex.

Well it's either I'm not a female at heart or something is wrong with the notions of most men that women like "bad boys". And I have been trying in all sincerity to remember all the guys I have ever been attracted to for keeps. They are never " bad guys"! Why would I be attracted to someone everyone knows is bad? What does that even make me?

Now, being nice shouldn't be a bad thing. Just that people take advantage of them a lot. I would know cos I have been there. But it doesn't mean that I would start trying to get attracted to a "bad guy". It's good to be good.

MissJoy29:
Well it's either I'm not a female or heart or something is wrong with the notions of most men that women like "bad boys". And I have trying in all sincerity to remember all the guys I have ever been attracted to for keeps. They are never " bad guys"! Why would I be attracted to someone everyone knows is bad? What does that even make me?

Now, being nice shouldn't be a bad thing. Just that people take advantage of them a lot. I would know cos I have been there. But it doesn't mean that I would start trying to get attracted to a "bad guy". It's good to be good.

no one cares about your life story. keep that for your diary.

ubunja:

no one cares about your life story. keep that for your diary.

Ok sir.

lefulefu:
If u being nice cos u want to sleep with a lady then in actual fact u not nice.as for me i am nice guy and i respect ladies...though i have a weakness for twerking sha.. Cc thornapple.

You are truthful here i must say.
you are nice but twerking seems an incurable vice for you.

ubunja:

very true. the hand that rocks the craddle controls the world. no man grows into something his mother didnt intend or wish.
and single mothers raise most Nice Guys coz they are forever saying to their sons :" dont grow up to be like your father." " respect women" . and from that time a boy's mind is biased to seek the welfare of women above his own.

Exactly.

Let me just leave this quote by Sheryl Sandberg here:

When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home. These men exist and, trust me, over time, nothing is sexier.


After doing all sorts of freaky shît with her bad boy lovers, she will stingily sprinkle vapid, missionary sex in the relationship upon her slack pûssy

Post contains an atom of truism...preach on bruv

Belafonte:
Let me just leave this quote by Sheryl Sandberg here:

When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home. These men exist and, trust me, over time, nothing is sexier.


After doing all sorts of freaky shît with her bad boy lovers, she will stingily sprinkle vapid, missionary sex in the relationship upon her slack pûssy

this is one of the passages that woke me up fully. Mark "Facebook" Zukerberg's wife put the truth so plainly its a wonder why most guys dont get it.


women give their best 10 yrs (17 to 27) to the Badboys and their worst 10 yrs (27 to 37) to the Nice Guys they marry just before they hit 40. but men are trained to give their worst 10 yrs to porn as they struggle to get laid while building their lives in their 20s; then they must give their 10 best years to the women they will marry at 35 when everything in their life is finally coming right. guys in their mid 30s are at the prime of life. career,flat, car. instead of seeking a fresh 19yr old gal to enjoy they are bullied (by being called Pedophiles or too chicken to deal with women their age) into hooking up with used up, tired mid 30s women with boobs that touch the floor and bums that are porridge. women dont want men at their worst during their 20s but want them at their best in their 30s. its not fair.no man under 35 must marry, and when he marries he must not marry a girl over 21. teenage to early 20s girls and mid 30s guys are a match made in heaven. each has what the other wants.the man needs a fresh body for his babies ,and the girl needs a matured man who can provide. its a blessed union.a union that makes older women mad as hell and want to kill a man.LOL

^^^^
Dude, it is not all women. There are at least women that remain abstinent untill marriage. And there are women out there that reject 'bad boys'. They are minority but they exist.

Another thing, I think women are better in their 30s than 20s. Of course, there are exceptions. But women in their 30s are more confident, responsible and mature. Women in their 20s are immature, have no goal, don't even know what they want. At this age, they just want adventure and fun. That is why the appeal of the 'bad boy' is strong for them. At this age, they don't want responsibilities, are highly driven by emotion and really naive and superficial.

ubunja:

this is one of the passages that woke me up fully. Mark "Facebook" Zukerberg's wife put the truth so plainly its a wonder why most guys dont get it.


women give their best 10 yrs (17 to 27) to the Badboys and their worst 10 yrs (27 to 37) to the Nice Guys they marry just before they hit 40. but men are trained to give their worst 10 yrs to porn as they struggle to get laid while building their lives in their 20s; then they must give their 10 best years to the women they will marry at 35 when everything in their life is finally coming right. guys in their mid 30s are at the prime of life. career,flat, car. instead of seeking a fresh 19yr old gal to enjoy they are bullied (by being called Pedophiles or too chicken to deal with women their age) into hooking up with used up, tired mid 30s women with boobs that touch the floor and bums that are porridge. women dont want men at their worst during their 20s but want them at their best in their 30s. its not fair.no man under 35 must marry, and when he marries he must not marry a girl over 21. teenage to early 20s girls and mid 30s guys are a match made in heaven. each has what the other wants.the man needs a fresh body for his babies ,and the girl needs a matured man who can provide. its a blessed union.a union that makes older women mad as hell and want to kill a man.LOL

My new motto is, "catch dem young". Anything above 23 is a problem for me now. I need standing, stubborn breasts in my life right now.

Belafonte:


My new motto is, "catch dem young". Anything above 23 is a problem for me now. I need standing, stubborn breasts in my life right now.

Age before Beauty. thats how we roll.

if a woman is beautiful but at 40 she is disqualified. a 19 yr old avarage-looking girl is far more prefered. time is a woman's biggest enemy. and any female that hasnt been conquered by time is pure gold.

Being a nice guy has it's advantages and disadvantages, niceness is a turnoff. Ladies appreciate guys with razzness that nice guys lack. In the school of reasoning, it is why nice guys carry last. They are despised by ladies who take the nice treatment but never reciprocate the niceties they get from nice guys.

splinx:
Being a nice guy has it's advantages and disadvantages, niceness is a turnoff. Ladies appreciate guys with razzness that nice guys lack. In the school of reasoning, it is why nice guys carry last. They are despised by ladies who take the nice treatment but never reciprocate the niceties they get from nice guys.

so which Category do u fall into?

tania28:
so which Category do u fall into?

It depends. I can be anyone any good lady wants. Which do you want?

splinx:


It depends. I can be anyone any good lady wants. Which do you want?

hoping u are a nice guy

splinx:


It depends. I can be anyone any good lady wants. Which do you want?

this is the same mindset we are trying to correct in men. this " i will be what you want me to be" thing. its a weakness. you are like the number "3" that can be a "W" if it faces up, and an "M" if it faces down and an "E" if it looks the other way. STOP BEING A CHAMELION.
be what you are and let those girls that like that type of person come to you. dont aim to be everything to everyone hoping someone will like you and make you her special someone. know what you have to offer to a woman so you can promote yourself to her.
guy.