₦airaland Forum

Omooba77:
I remembered quite well during the buildup to the 2015 election; APC promised to build modular refineries in months. As of today only Dangote refinery which is a private initiative, which may not come online till 2020.
Please where are the promised refineries; because this fuel scarcity is hard on us the populace? God bless Nigeria.

Scarcity is as a result of importation price difference due to world market.

LoJ:
Who is it that benefits from having 1hour of electricity per day and how? Do let me know.

And even if that is the case, how come the interests of that single individual overpowers those of the whole nation?

The Generator importers , the petrol importers . NNPC . The FG , you want me to go on ? ?

tribalistseun:
They always send osibande to fooll us while the fulani caliphates sit down and sign and loot our money.


Using our OIL money $6 billion dollars to search for imaginary oil that doesn't exist anywhere in their cursed dry land.

They never still find the groundnut oil for their place?

Omooba77:
Talk is the cheapest thing in life; but many of us are too gullible to discern

as we speak, a friend of mine is in Canada undergoing training alongside other persons chosen to establish the modular refineries. FYI

Everybody is blaming Baru and Kachikwu. How abt d Petroleum Minister himself?

chloride6:
They are in the manifesto

Adminisher:
You have to understand how international EPC works. You do studies, you do front end design, you do detailed design, you specify equipment, you select OEMs, then they manufacture, then they invite you to come and test, then they transport, then you errect on site, then you commission.

Does this appear to you to be a two-year thing?

People are so ignorant in Nigeria yet talk, talk and talk.

The modular refinery idea itself is very STUPID. We have said many times it is uneconomic and will not work. This national tendency of looking for short cuts will not work.

Refinery business can only be done profitably at scale ( >250000 barrels a day) and should produce many by products.

Anyway thank you for knowing Danone refinery will not run till 2020.

then why do they build modular refineries if it's only profitable at scale. you can say more profitable but not completely un profitable. at least cost of transport to and fro will substitute for lack of scale. nearness to market will offset any other refining cost

baralatie:
if you know the conditions that where set down for the establishment, license to initiate interest, license to build,,license to operate, license to sell and all kind of obstacles.you would understand it is virtually impossible to see modular refineries unless nnpc is totally scraped of its powers like nitel

they should build in Togo and Cameron along border

texazzpete:
if you truly thought that modular refineries could even come close to meeting demand for this country, you have MUCH bigger problems to worry about than APC.

We will keep importing until the Dangote Refinery is fully operational.

what about 1000 modularS, they'd be enough

booblacain:
you did not particularly say why modular refineries will not work. Are you saying a state like say Edo cannot get investors to build a refinery that would carter for Edo state alone?

forget the state. make d governor and him cronies use dia loot to build personal one gabadaya and create jobs

erico2k2:
The Generator importers , the petrol importers . NNPC . The FG , you want me to go on ? ?

This is a very short sighted view. The money made from importing generator can equally be made if not higher via refining the existing nigerian gaz into petrol. They can just turn their equity from one business into the other, with the advantage that they will be doing something patriotic that will benefit them and their children too.

And a resourceful leadership with vision would have understood that and provided tax incentives to encourage the businessmen who invest into that domain, while increasing tax on importation of petrol. As simple as abc.

Adminisher:
You have to understand how international EPC works. You do studies, you do front end design, you do detailed design, you specify equipment, you select OEMs, then they manufacture, then they invite you to come and test, then they transport, then you errect on site, then you commission.

Does this appear to you to be a two-year thing?

People are so ignorant in Nigeria yet talk, talk and talk.

The modular refinery idea itself is very STUPID. We have said many times it is uneconomic and will not work. This national tendency of looking for short cuts will not work.

Refinery business can only be done profitably at scale ( >250000 barrels a day) and should produce many by products.

Anyway thank you for knowing Danone refinery will not run till 2020.

abeg keep ur story,always around to defend incompetency

Adminisher:
You have to understand how international EPC works. You do studies, you do front end design, you do detailed design, you specify equipment, you select OEMs, then they manufacture, then they invite you to come and test, then they transport, then you errect on site, then you commission.

Does this appear to you to be a two-year thing?

People are so ignorant in Nigeria yet talk, talk and talk.

The modular refinery idea itself is very STUPID. We have said many times it is uneconomic and will not work. This national tendency of looking for short cuts will not work.

Refinery business can only be done profitably at scale ( >250000 barrels a day) and should produce many by products.

Anyway thank you for knowing Danone refinery will not run till 2020.

Bros since it was part of the campaign promise I think all these would have been set on motion bfo d actual take off

Adminisher:
You have to understand how international EPC works. You do studies, you do front end design, you do detailed design, you specify equipment, you select OEMs, then they manufacture, then they invite you to come and test, then they transport, then you errect on site, then you commission.

Does this appear to you to be a two-year thing?

People are so ignorant in Nigeria yet talk, talk and talk.

The modular refinery idea itself is very STUPID. We have said many times it is uneconomic and will not work. This national tendency of looking for short cuts will not work.

Refinery business can only be done profitably at scale ( >250000 barrels a day) and should produce many by products.

Anyway thank you for knowing Danone refinery will not run till 2020.

Over sabi, after your grammar, tell us when ithe ones your stupid APC promised us will come on stream.

Hmmmmmmm[[color=#990000][/color]

Adminisher:
You have to understand how international EPC works. You do studies, you do front end design, you do detailed design, you specify equipment, you select OEMs, then they manufacture, then they invite you to come and test, then they transport, then you errect on site, then you commission.

Does this appear to you to be a two-year thing?

People are so ignorant in Nigeria yet talk, talk and talk.

The modular refinery idea itself is very STUPID. We have said many times it is uneconomic and will not work. This national tendency of looking for short cuts will not work.

Refinery business can only be done profitably at scale ( >250000 barrels a day) and should produce many by products.

Anyway thank you for knowing Danone refinery will not run till 2020.

You now want to tag the Op as being ignorant, leaving the people that promised to build the refinery in months.

Your wisdom is questionable.

Desyner:
There are no modular refineries yet but Buhari is doing a great job to drive down the cost of a module of rice. That's is modular in itself cos only a module or section of Nigeria knows about it.

You should not try being a comedian.
The spectators will stone you until you run away from the stage with your dry jokes.

seguno2:
You should not try being a comedian.
The spectators will stone you until you run away from the stage with your dry jokes.

That will make me the butt of the jokes if it ever plays out that way. So crack yours let us see. But come to think of it Nigeria is already a joke so commenting on national issues will look like i am trying to crack a joke.

mikolo80:
then why do they build modular refineries if it's only profitable at scale. you can say more profitable but not completely un profitable. at least cost of transport to and fro will substitute for lack of scale. nearness to market will offset any other refining cost

The cost transportation is annoying. You cannot build a $40million pipeline to a $10million refinery for each refinery. People are not thinking. It is even the transport cost that makes modular refineries unworkable. They will receive crude from terminals and crude oil quality control centres by BARGE. That is the only way...and my friend, it is extremely STUPID

donttouch:
You now want to tag the Op as being ignorant, leaving the people that promised to build the refinery in months.

Your wisdom is questionable.

The people that believed modular refineries will come in months are the stupid ones. The whole of the Niger Delta is peopled by tribes who don't understand things like hardwork, patient determination, discipline, delayed gratification. That is why they would believe that capital projects and uneconomic ones at that will just fall from God's perfect sky.

Adminisher:
You have to understand how international EPC works. You do studies, you do front end design, you do detailed design, you specify equipment, you select OEMs, then they manufacture, then they invite you to come and test, then they transport, then you errect on site, then you commission.

Does this appear to you to be a two-year thing?

People are so ignorant in Nigeria yet talk, talk and talk.

The modular refinery idea itself is very STUPID. We have said many times it is uneconomic and will not work. This national tendency of looking for short cuts will not work.

Refinery business can only be done profitably at scale ( >250000 barrels a day) and should produce many by products.

Anyway thank you for knowing Danone refinery will not run till 2020.

Yet the illegal ones in the bush are working & producing diesel even though the quality isn't so Good.

modular refineries is not rocket science, it won't take long for designs to be done. design can be done less than 6months!!

The reason modular refineries or our comatose refineries will not see the light of the day is because of those that are benefitting from the way things are now.

they will fight tooth & nail for things to remain this way

Desyner:
There are no modular refineries yet but Buhari is doing a great job to drive down the cost of a module of rice. That's is modular in itself cos only a module or section of Nigeria knows about it.

was it not President Jonathan and the former minister of Agriculture that started the rice self-sufficiency campaign?

now you all are putting the results as PMB achievement, really?

texazzpete:
if you truly thought that modular refineries could even come close to meeting demand for this country, you have MUCH bigger problems to worry about than APC.

We will keep importing until the Dangote Refinery is fully operational.

why exactly are we waiting for dangote when Nigeria can start and finish 2 refineries bigger than that between now and 2020?

RealityShot:
was it not President Jonathan and the former minister of Agriculture that started the rice self-sufficiency campaign?

now you all are putting the results as PMB achievement, really?

I didn't realize that.

bomsilaga:
as we speak, a friend of mine is in Canada undergoing training alongside other persons chosen to establish the modular refineries. FYI

Please which EPC are they from

ruggedtimi:
Private modular refinery under construction along emouha uniport road port harcourt.

thats not a refinery Sir. Its an LNG plant. Seems it will be more focused on cooking gas from the distribution trucks they have there..

profosa:
Please note that their are actually modular refinery in nigeria now producing diesel,one of the marginal field operator has one that is currently running.

lol.. That was built in Jonathan era.

989900:
The above is Not true.

thats interesting..please tell us more on that

bomsilaga:
as we speak, a friend of mine is in Canada undergoing training alongside other persons chosen to establish the modular refineries. FYI

training?
to finish when?
then to start building the refineries when?

2020?? Very laughable man...

LoJ:
This is a very short sighted view. The money made from importing generator can equally be made if not higher via refining the existing nigerian gaz into petrol. They can just turn their equity from one business into the other, with the advantage that they will be doing something patriotic that will benefit them and their children too.

And a resourceful leadership with vision would have understood that and provided tax incentives to encourage the businessmen who invest into that domain, while increasing tax on importation of petrol. As simple as abc.

never think in ABC when dealing with APC govt and Greedy Nigerian Elites!

LoJ:
This is a very short sighted view. The money made from importing generator can equally be made if not higher via refining the existing nigerian gaz into petrol. They can just turn their equity from one business into the other, with the advantage that they will be doing something patriotic that will benefit them and their children too.

And a resourceful leadership with vision would have understood that and provided tax incentives to encourage the businessmen who invest into that domain, while increasing tax on importation of petrol. As simple as abc.

No it would make the life of the ordinary man comfortable and he will start thinking straight and won't vote idiots into power . This is what the people in power don't want .

Adminisher:
The people that believed modular refineries will come in months are the stupid ones. The whole of the Niger Delta is peopled by tribes who don't understand things like hardwork, patient determination, discipline, delayed gratification. That is why they would believe that capital projects and uneconomic ones at that will just fall from God's perfect sky.

Based on VP analysis during campaigning, it is not complicated as you made us believe now. We already have existing pipelines in most states; you can Tie-in; branch off and connect to your 'modular' refineries. There is a trunk A pipeline down to Kadunna.
This government has failed in my own conclusion!